Western Times, Volume 2, Number 12, Richmond, Wayne County, 21 November 1829 — Page 2
VIRGINIA CONVENTION.
' '" - Thursdw, Oi toblr 20. j Aff-r. nrurr hv the Rev. Mr. IIvm.' ner, the Convention at 2 o'clock, was eu'leJ to order. , TnniriM nn'OCT
jiiHt. . " l v'7"',,i;thi commonwealth, tee on the Jn l.eal D-partm-nt oft. ov., , , ... . i.v0,.lt:vc
ern.nctit, reputed the following resolu-; tion: I. irjirr7. That the Judical power hall be teste in a Court ot Appeal, nferior Cvut. as the Le I and in such I gird iture shall from time to time, ordain and establish, an I in the County Court's. V ii J jr,su,V " , iihtii uc i i n. ii "j i , , I ct oi tn .uriot .poea i ami oi me Inlen r Courts shall hoi 1 their omrc? during g.oJ hehav,uor,cr until removed ( in the manner prescribed by the Con-; t.tution, and "hall at the same ,rne,j hul l no otaer efhee, appointment, or. puMictru-t; nhe acceptance hero,a f I... ilmnt kh ill vr:l r 1 1 a I Ju lie iil th e. No modificntion or ah-j olition of any court shall fe contniedi to deprive any j ade thereof of his office, bat 'uchj i le shall pprform ary j i li'-ial d'lt'ni which thu ..egisl iture t"icn bi n. . ' ';' , Phat the present Judjes of the Cut f Appeal-. I'lJe of the G:ncrl Curi, a .l Cn mve'.l ir rein iin in o;ii." u it.l the rx;iration of ttie tirt s'S'ia ol th' L-Uil iturL held M- J-T t-iC lie v CinititiiM 'O, ui I ni I m pr; hut t'te L lu ! id aue t ba il l i !:ICU of th' iii i- m i not In' re -appai;;tt I, f ij. I, i oi a Ir on Itieir n, infirmities an 1 p ist service!, shall be 'l-me I f i?-n iMe. 3. H s,!icl, Ttn' t! Juices of the Co-irt ol cx ent J Npp'al , an J I iforiar Colli t i-iicesMt" tiii Conty ('ourt and 'he M.lenr.en or oilier Mti-M teof C rp ira'ian CoarU, h.tll le e'ectd bv thi concurrent vote ol both 11 ues cftho G-rarral A'-Lin1"! ; each II u vn!i;, "puat.lv and lu iii a i c a liv on t ie e.th-r, and tho member' t!iei eof voting ; ; The votes ol the m-'-nVts shall be cntcied on tlie J tir:id of ir re-pe.tivc Houses. hamuli the two IL-ues, in any ca-c fni to con 11 r in the el-ction of a J u.lg ; . ... . . . .. .1. . " .1 .11 11 , I
lii'ti :. ine ee euou, o urooiou.i owe;. .,, 1 1 . . . ' t; . inMtee, and bemj dcsirou3 to present
u . ' pi. !in;3 in ti ';v n. c.'v.u . 11 . l i! T it'll 3 in ii 1- " xvnich they were resp'Ctiv r I) Vot( 1 for bvA it any v ac irn v sha'l occur a 11 .1 t'. rec'"! of tin ( G ivrnor o'li.-r ..-ral Ar'efii'i! 1 , p -r n p-' rlor -ning ; 1 tii" d'it (.1" ( .ei:t.ir may app i!Iit a I V-r 'i t. till .a-livt anry, tio h 1 1 j e !ii.'i i;i o!.n : i' l the eno 1 c .1 . I I t .---io 1 ol tiii: G "O'ral A-s fn'dyI. U 1 , Tnat the Jul j- of th C 1 i-t of A ,ip'-:.l C i lfts, -h ill rei i a-. 1 of the Inf riur (1 and a;'ti'i i f- i 11 0 w 1 f 1 i. mo ju ouiooisueu t ! I . . .1 . 1 1 . . 1... .!.. , ; 11 in tioMr 1.0 tn.'i t'u e in fain e. otii o. ''','.'.', That -ii the creation et any n w (.0 iury. J a-ti' -s I thu P'-a e th ill bo ap; no' : d in tie: hr?t i:4t itn us ruv b: pr -' rt'i. d l-y liw. When V ican. 1 h .11 occur io any cou iti , or itihill from any cau-e, be deemed neCOiirv to iuereao th: number, api lint n 'iif s'nll be nu b' by the G vern ir, 'y 1 I wiili the advice and concent of ill-- S'o.ite.ou the recommend i ti.i i of t'l ir respi't live t ounty court. t'. :.;;. 'P ut theCbik of the sever il car sh ill be appo.ntcd by their r.'-p 'ttiv-: i;ourt, and their ten lire of .iliire h.- p,rerrite 1 by I iw. 7. It'siti , 'Pint the Judges, of the C wirt of App -ali an 1 of the lob tior Co irt-, ..il oding ag allibt the State, eitinir by iml-i l nt nli atnei, coriuption or n-gb-i.t of daiy, or bv any othei ln'i en ne or mi- I in ;aoor, h ill be im peoltiMehy tin' H--ie of D'h-giW-s, k 1 Ii 1 aiji" icn'ne.it to he prosecuted b f ( th S -o a'e. IffiU 'd g'lilty b) two taird of l'i" v !- S o i'e, s ich pers-n s!n!l b- r-nn d Ir n otVn-e. And tin Jul a 1 up ;b" I, ib ill bi; sujietid'fl Jro 11 e x r 1-1 ig t!ie lia tion ol his "I li;e, u .til im .o q ntt il, or until tin: im jn: iC,U n oil nil ill he w i'.h Iiaw 11 or dlsccatimn'd. C. Ii" -'.r . That Ju lg-s may be rernaved fr n l!i : ) a of the Gennril -ern'lv, bat two third? of the yv!i ob: naaibi r of E i-"'! 1 1 a-o ni'ht con cur in u h vt ia 1 the oh of re in vn! nh ill h.! i ii'rn . r t .. 1 1 1 0:1 the .1 ournais ot ar.:i. I ne .I'I'l.'H aunT wnom nmii the L".;Ulalure ii about to proceed, h ill receive n-'ti- e thereof, ,k ompani cd by n copy ol the cuei alleged, for his r 'i-.oval, at h:at twenty day before the d iv on which either h iue of the G ri' ral Asemb shall a t thereon. Onmitioii of JtiwjE Mriiui.l, the repoit was ordered to be I tid on tnc i. hie. EXECUTIVE liEPOUT. Governor Gii.ks from the Commit te on the i- uiive Dep ntment of the Co-istitutiou, repotted the following resolution!!. The Committee appointed on the
Eiccative Uraucb of thu CouitituliontrcasoD, and iu caici of iujoeachojcut
have according to order, had under consideration the subjects referred to
thern and have come to the following resolution thereon. I. Rrsilv'.rt. That the Chief Execu tive Oilice of this commonwealth, ought to be vested in a Governor. V-vore. Tint there ought to he nnfwiih.l u 1. 1 n f nn i, t I . w rr.n r nf ! Council ; at pre8cnl organize, out' to be abolished, and that it is inexpedient li ni-iivi.tr nnv nttir fvYorntive Council T,nt ; fac pf removal of the Governor from cilice, nr tf) t;ilK rntitrnatirfi nr inliitill' to discharge the duties and powers of office the said rowers nnd duties M devolvc on hl. Lieutenant Cover nor a I lit llm I .iMiuLtin i in v 1 1 rii V i i! ' fof the tvnu y dcjl or similjr inahi,lU , be Lieutenant Governor. AW;W,'That the Shcnir, in the M.,rpiil CPIln!lt., j,, thc commonwealili! ha ... J quahts -d to vote for the m st numerous ! branch of the Lfjjislattne.
O h. H'sohe l, That the Commission- ister of the Land OlVn e and Attorney ed Oili' ers cf Militia Companies be'Gcneial. The LeisU'ure may by a nominated to too Executive b) a maj u- law vest the appointment of all oilier ity of their respet tive coinpauie?, J ( fi'n ers of l!ie Commonwealth, where Tth. uso;((7, That the field i Hirers ;iii.'.intm r ts are not herein otherwise
of regiments be nominated to the Exec - juiive by a nijiit) of l!ic commissi .:) e.J oJliccrs ol their lespcctive ri I monts. Cta. iVo;r7, That no p udon shall I'C tjia'itcd in any case, till after con vk ti in and 14 iLim nt. o itf.if, To. it the Chairman , r. poit to the Convention, the several icsolutinns ad'ip'i d hy tins Committee, propo'in j; amendim nts to ihe Contitu tioa: ai d that lie a k that the Comm.t-j u ln d.t barged lii in the farther con j r ation l tne -ul p.t t let rr u to tt. j ()a tn ti n of (ioi t hnor Gii.ks, tic lie-pot t was ordered lobe laid u.i the table. (jov. Git.f, moved that the Execu(lie committee be dirhaiged fiom furI tlicr ousidci ation of the 6ijbjer t, w hich j ino'ioii was dciided in the atlii mative, and ihe committee w as accordingly dis - charged. Mr. PoWLLLsaidth.it, havirg been
or e 01 a veiy large majority, who had.,,, d until th ir advice and con-ent to
uis-cr.teu irom the repjitol the Com "ill.. ' . rt & 4 t 11 thciow3 ol th;it 111iuoritv.hu hoi. Id ak leave to present the resolutions he In IJ in his hand. Leave having leen given, Mr. Powell offered the f allowing n-ilution. llfs-tktd. That the Ex-cutive De partment of 'he ext-tir g fjrm of Gov,.ri,,u i t, oUiiht to be ajjcndcd as ful,1 ... i !n!i n I. The Executive rower 'ii I lie i'-!cil in 11 li vernor. Iii i .11 hold hi etlit e fai ,)eap, and 1 : 1 ( 1 ' 1 r 1 1 1 1 1 fill 1 1 1 !(lin i ( i f o - ...v - .. . ... - .v - ... w. ,1 t . r' tie-re. liter, and a Lieutenant dovei 1 nor -nib be chosen for the tame tenn and led r b.k res ricti.ais. lif). '2. Piie Lieutenant Governor shab act as Pi csidnl ol the S :nate, but hall ii4e n riht to vote except the S. nate he upiilly divided upon any q ie-fi n: in which case he thall have the Casting Vi.tc. AV.w. :. . i person shall be eligible to tne oilice of Gov. rino", 01 L eutcnant (iovet nor, except a cil.zen of this cominonwalth ; nor any who shall not have resided jcais, next proceeding liii election in thi S'.ate. ll'o. 1. The G .vemor nnd Lieutenant Governor shall be elected at ihe times and places of choosing Members of the mo-t numerous branch of the LegUl iture, by the voters qualified tc vote lor the members of the General Assembly ; provided that the election thall take place throughout the Common wealth on thesnme day. The persons re.pectivi ly having the highest numb r f votes for G ivei nor and Lieutenant G .vemor shall be elected, hi case two r m o p r-i-n sliall Imvc an equal numhi c ol vi tes for Governor, or for Lieutenant Governor, the Legislature sinll immediately, by joint vote of but h House, choose of the per- ns having an rqu ! number of votes, for Governor or f.ir Lieutenant Governor as the case in n be. Hesn, 5. The Governor shall be conn minder in chief of the Militia. He ..v ..... lUVUIIIVIIVIIIV lii;' : 1 , . , . o 1 . 1 :i I tl rr nn i y I r .1 1-1 r.l .. r m c ...... j 11 . .., r ...'. lie tjuai. 110111 nine 10 umc, give llitormation to the Ijegislature, of the Conditi' n of the Commoir.veath, and recommend to their consideration, such measures, a? may be resolved upon by the Legislature, and shall lake care that the laws are faithfully executed lirso. Ct. The Governor and Lieutenant Governor shall, at stated limes, receive Ii r their servicep, a compensation which shall neither be increased or diminished during the term for which they shall have been elected. Heso. 7. The Governor shall hr.vc power to grant reprieve and pardon, af ter conviction, for all offeucee except
Upon cases of conviction, lie shrill have power to suspend the execution of the sentence, until l lie case shall he repor ted to the LegM ature at its next sess ion, when the Legislature may pardon
tor direct the execution of the criminal or grant a further reprieve. w v s. i.i case oi mcj removal oi t)gt f iiv- m f"i . rr iiflm nr nf 1 1 i u 'K . f h resignation, or inability to dischaige the dutos i.i hi? cflne, bis power anil duties shall '. v. he on the Lieutenant Governor: and in case of the removal, t death, or resignation, or like inability of the Licu'cnant G vernor. the Legislature may provide by law, upon whom the duties of the Governor th.'ll devolve, until such disabilites shall be removed or a new Governor thall be c b eted. lies'). 0. The G ivernor shall have prm. i. - f wi r ! t I . iml !iv ntut willi llm d vjf(. ;nJ ronsenl flf UV Sen;ttu ,oj(it Judges ol the Supreme Court, or cohrt of final Jurisdiction, and Judges cuch S.iprrior courts a? may from time be es , r h miUUa oflkeH J . 1 from the rai k of Colonel; the Trea-u rer, Auditors of PuMic Accounts, Keg : jiov id d for, in the Governor alone, or ui tte Gov rnor, with the advice and con 'tit of ibe Senate, oi in the cturts i of Law. j Jlesv. 1). The Governor shMI have (power to till up all vacancies that may i - . happen during the rer ea ot the Seriate, , .ii ii by gr inting commissions, which thall extireat the end ol lue next eespion ol th tt body. , AV.f. 11. Tlic Governor shall have power to require initialing the opm of the L''iteuj.;t Governor, and ol th-- A t enj (n-neial, upon all m iiter appertan ingto the dulie of hi cilice. f!ro. 12. No person whose; tenure f olliee depeads on the ple.inr of the j(i vernor, sh ill he removed Irom oilice. uithout the a Ivico or con-eut of the Senate to such r- in val. ihr the G- v ernur sh.ill hav power at any lime, to Mj - pend fuch otiicer, and appoint nuo tiier to dis lurge the duties of bis of- ( u e, until the ot xt session of the Senate ut h rem val shall be uscerlaincd and eXpri'ss d. Oa motion of Mr. Powell, these res olutions were oidered lo be laid ou the table. On mo'i n of Mr. Cookf, the reolutioiis were th ll ordered to ho printed. Mr G Rt) .v presented a Memorial, from the ciMens i f Alh nurl Countv, which was oidered to he relerrcd to the Legi-I itive Committee. Mr. Moi!iiiN said, that s he had been s unfortunate as not to agree io th" piop.sition, whkh had been pre stnted Item the Executiie Committee, h w ulJ ti?k h ave to pi sent to the Ho'i-e, ( ert iin icsuluttoHs, which he h I I in hij band. Leave being granted, Mr. Motoan Ipr rented tb- f-llowtng resolutions: 'Pin Executive power shall be vested in a Governor, and Lieutenant Govern or. to a-si-l in the administratuai of the affair, of Government, when required by the G 'Vernor, and who thall act aGovernor in case of the death, rc.-igna tion, or removal of the Governor Irom olliee, until another bt appointed; nd incase of impeachment, t-rnporary in ' capacity of any kind, or the ah?e,nce of the Governor lr'in the S' at of government, until his restoration or r turn. And if at any time there shall be n acting Governor, and ihe Li"Utenal G v ernor shall be impeached, 01 from ary other cause not acting, the Executive Authority shall devi Ivc upon, and be ex cu'ed by some person appointed by law for that purpose. The Governor and Lieutenant Governor shall be annually appointed by joint ball t,of the Senate and House ol Di leg ites, and their terms of office shall end on the last day ol Decern 'er of every year. But no person shall be eligible to the office of Governor for more than three years at any one time, nor again until after he shall have been out of that office four yeai6; and in like manner after the end of every three years of service. The Governor shall exercise the Executive power of the Government according to the laws of the Commonwealth. He may, at his own discre lion, and shall, on application of a majority of the Senate or House of Delegates, convene the General Assembly; and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons except where the prosecution shall have been carried on by the Houfie of Delegates, or the law shall otherwise positively direct, in which cases the llouc of Delegates shall alone have nnd cxe rcise the power which is granted them: but no pardon shall be granted in any case, until alter judgmentor conviction. On motion of Mr. Morgan, these resolutions were ordered to be laid ou the table
. .wi-uj i lln mnhnn n Mr. Vinv th mnrf . . . . . i"iiuiicm, was orofrea 10 op prinieu. On motion of Mr. Doddridge, the resolutions offered by Mr. Morgan were ordered to be printed. FOREIGN. From the Wnliineton City Chroiucle. KUROPEAN AFFAIRS. T!e Nst advices from Europe (being to the 30th September.) confirm the opinions we advanced in our paper of last week, that there is no peace as yet between Russia and Turkey, nor do we think it h likely there will be any. We cannot, for a moment, believe that Russia, w ho has so lot j entertained the desire to possess herself of Constantinople, will now, when the prize is within her grasp, consent to relinquish it; unless she dieads the hrstility of Great Britain, and the rest of Europe. We predict that the peace she consents to make, if any, wil1 he equivalent to the expulsion of the Turks from Eun pe; and we should judge, from the tone and lancuage f the last number of Be IPs (L ndon) Weekly Messei gf r, that this t was row heginning to be 8erioiily ap prebend d by England. We before expressed our surprise at the singular su pinene of the European powers, so verv dilP-rent from their usual policy, and we etill continue to lee! it. They cannot, how y r, consent to remain pasive much long' r, and quietly sutTer Ru sia to obtain f u h an overwhelming preponderance f powt r, fo the iminent ', v f . .,. . . danger of their salety. ehad suppo- u that t;er ilia poscesion, wou.u l .t.a II- .1 have roued England to a sense of dan ger. and made her ome ie.vl.at more v; - , however, yet g.lant. She ma not thii k it too late ; and instead of peace, it is altogether more re.acnable to conrlude that a long continue d war will be the rou!t of the ambitious strides cf the Autoerat. The actual condition of the affairs at the lat date may thus be stated: On the lt if September, negotiations weir opened at Adiianople, then thc Uuian Head Quarter.. Oo the 2d and a I, thee in gotiation3 were PUSpen-d'-d. but i.ot broken t ff, the Turkish Commi'sinn! having asked time to on-uU Ihetr Govenmicnt upon one of the poiotnat is-u1. Tlie Russian chief acceded o then d( 1 iv, under stipulation tha the tie.iti houl I be signed and ratfi"d by the l-jtln-f September, and in the mean time hi troop? were advaning np.in Constantinople, and were within Lr h agues ol it at the latest u.ltes. Oae ol our late Havauna papers contains the f.'llow ing description of a hurricane in Spain w hich we have not before seen notic d. The horrible account g ien, borders on the marvellous. "Cvzurh Spain) 18, June. 1S2D. On the loth inst. at half past '2 o'clock, P. M. tliis town, with ils suburbs, was visited by the most terrible scourge recorded in the annals of history. A tremendous storm of s'or.es of various weights nnd dimensions, jr.me of the ize of a nut, and others weighing four, pounds or more, destroy ed the roof? of the houses ot this town, ai d encumberd its streets in every direction, presenting to the eyes ofits wretched inhabitant!! the hoirihlj picture of a bombarded city. Some houses were entirely d'.-slroyedand others materially injured. The raging hurricane that accompanied this frightful meteor,carried along with it many i ottages, whole and entire, to ) afferent quarters of the town, and oue the di-t anco of a pun shot further. M .st i.f the beautiful range of tr-e in lb vicinity, now lay prosttat' on the giound, such as withstood the -tonn are bereft of their branches. The country is now become entirely deso tp, a' (I the laborers nnd workin n are dismayed at seeing how, within the short space of ten minutes, has li-app ared from their eight the large fields of corn, which previously gave jay to their hearts. Men were prostrated, and some were carried into the air by this tremendous whirlwind, while no assistance could be given them. To the astonishment of the people, all kinds of quadrupeds were seen flying in (he air, and carried to a considcrble distance. All the inhabitants of this city hate been reduced to the greatest misery; and in their spacious and fertile fields, they cannot now even find feed for such cattle n6 have been spared to them. To form some idea of this, it suffices to state, that the hunting of birds, hares, rooks, Vc. has been resort ed to for subsistence. Severcl persons, of all ages, have perished and many have been much injured, and are on the eve of dying. On the faces of the inhabitants nothing but horror, fright and sorrow are depicted, at the sign of the horrible hunger with which they arc threatened; and in consequence of which, many arc expatiating themselves, with their families, to seek in other couutrici tb lubiUtcocc which1
of the Committee on the Executive De-
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I hn.oppn nrithnrnivn (mm 4 n , l . I , uaf-" ..win lurixi ni , divine Majesty." Charleston tW "The tie that binds There srj many of them, tender yet stroDgw and enduring. A young man of nineteen, settinrt r,. for a distant part of the country in i-,-suit of fortune, I cast rny eyes arcu otcr. 01 my miant sportsmy bov ish revels, and more manly cxercist I he silent adieu of a father. hn .v." 'king the hand, did not choose to 'Deal Incl Y n . . etn& iicmpi 10 gay "FARLVLL should betray the deep feeling cf heart; by the trembling lip and faltpril,". tongue. The mother's tender err.bra'r' iwi icura; me Dill; ttie rotkj ..v. ncauun; iiie scnoci Douse tl companions ci my ycuth; and the j,;!( maiden that pressed to say 'good u shrunk back because she dare not tn,. bereelf. Ah Home Home the rd .v...... .icauu, uiecircteoi early f rie idi scenes of youthof innocence fad happiness, 'on, accr the tie that hu'. us. In latter life, taking leave for a jcur nc; irtr away over rTiCunfain SJj stream the deep ai d ansicus expression of her who has urited, in the leBilen st bonds, her destinies with ours for or woe, 'until death us do pert.- 'J hi 4. bing bosom ; the flush of hope ; the pai d hue of fear; and then to clasp one f t.it. tier cf the breast, while you bend rvtr the dimpled cherub, its sleeping butt., er that smiles as you look, as if census; of a parent's gaze, "Ah mz Rlvi iw. haze strong the tie that linth us."1 Duty calls us to a foreign land. W lookout vtitn nevr sensations of atti.hn'ent "pen the hilh and the valleys, ffs fair fields, the rugged mountains cf cur oeiovea country. Foiit r.-. r?. . party animosity, subside. 'l i e Rti ub lie, governed by the ceiisUtoLcn ci o;; choic-; our just and xvholescme Jr.. our liberal instituticr. It is the hi i of N asbington of Pctn. It is the I ,t rying place of cur fatbtrs, and rcside;.ce of those we bold most dear. It it the - HCt oi the free acd ths h&me of ilz brayeT' Cold must be the heart that Jce theD feel hczo strong and rutttthc iii binds us.' Village Record, T.."t 'Jilt : 0-w The progress cf the English Iarsze has been traced by Dr. Johnson in his learned dissertatioL, and by other hilologisls in various passages of sutovsive writers, from the reign of king Alfred in the ninth century, vho wis the first translator of Boethius,and celebrated as n w i it?r, as Wfcilasa mnn;.rc i. through the timed of Gowcrand Chaucer, the fathers cf Frglish poetry, ci S.r Thomas More and Den JohusoDj dwWQ to the present day. Of this progress the rarir us cdiliors of the Lord's prayer, for the brevity and eagy understanding of the wruf, furn'uh perhaps the best rperimms. In the year "CO the Lord's prayer began thus: Uren fader thic arth in hecsna?. sic gckalud thin roma. to evmeth thin rick: sic thin vvilla sue is in heosnus nd in crtho.' Two hundrci years after, thus ''Thee' ure fader tbe ert on heoscnum si mm namageoai god. tamtiiiD ric. Si thin willaon corthen swa, swa oo heosnum.' About 200 years aftar this, in the reign of Henry 11., it was ri)oered thus, and sent over by Pope Adrian, aa Englishman Ure fadyr in heaven rich, Thy name be bailed cber lirh Thou bring us thy michell bhsse; Ala hit in heavenly doe That in yearth been it also.' See. About 100 years after, iu the reigc of Henry III., it run thus Father thou art in heaven blisse Thin Helyc name it worth the bli:a Cumen and mot thy kingdom, Thin holy will it be all don In heaven and in earth alto. So it shall be in full well Ic tro -c. In the reign of Henry VI., it began thus 'Our fader that art ia heavens, hah lewed be thi name; the kingdom come to thee; be tho will don ia certh. as io heaven.' &,c. In 1537 it began thus 'Oh, cur father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Let thy kingdom come. Thy will be fulfilled, as it is in heaven.' i c. The most confirmed drunkard we ev er knew was an old man in the land cf Pumpkins, who possessed the greatest of all possible abhorrence for anti-temperance; having drank nine mugs of cidr at a neighbor' house ouc evening, he concluded to leave off in pure decim al by taking another. "1 believe neigh bor T." says old Guzzlefunction, "Wat I'll take another draft of your cider. I do like good cider, as well as auy bodv, but as for swilling it down as soffit
people do, I never could!1'
