Western Sun & General Advertiser, Volume 20, Number 10, Vincennes, Knox County, 18 April 1829 — Page 1

WESTEMN 'SIM & (K&MEI&AIk ADTEfBTESElE.

BY ELIHU STOUT. VINCENNES, (1ND.) SATURDAY, APRIL 18, 1829. Vol. XX. No. 10.

THE WESTERN SUN (ceivcdue consideration; it was high time that IS published at 82 50 cents, for 52 num- the object of them should be properly weighed r .. , xT r u Jm .1 and acted upon, and in particular that submitted ccrs ; which may be discharged by the pay. lhc tem;n fromlN. York, (Mr. Strong J mcnt oF&2 at tae Umc of subscribing. Mr. Sprague said, that he did not rise with an Payment in advance, being the mutual in intention to discuss the Question before the house :

tcrest of both parties, that mode is solicited, but he felt it his duty to enter a protest against

A frulnrbta notlfv a wish to discontinue at the nrincinlc involved in the resolution. Would

PvniMtinn nf the. time subscribed for. will the house proceed to discuss a question of prop

be considered a new engagement ; & no sub- fllc riSht.of which had been exercised since ., ... . . ,. , .. the first organization of the government? They

scnocr ai uucriy 10 uiSWuum, uuu, a.. .- mi , withequal reason, incorporate in the resrearages arc paid buosenbers must pay the 0iution a dause directing an inquiry to be made postage on their papers when sent by mail. whether the ships, dock-yards and fortifications Letters by mail to the Editor on business belonging to the public, were the property of the

must be naid, or thev will not be attended to. U. States, or of the states within whose limits or

rrrpivnrl at the LJanh unsuicuon mey miirui respectively oe. me

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ered out, and must be paid for accordingly.

CONGRESSIONAL.

Market Price, for subscriptions, if delivered right of that hall itself, in which they sat, might .... become a disputed question ; for, if the states vithm the year, could establish the claim advanced by some of Advertisements not exceeding thirteen Uiem, to thc public iands in their territories, the lines, will be inserted three times for one dpi- corporation of Washington must ovn,thhall of lar, and twenty -Jive cents for each after in- the representatives, and the whole btHWff.g, insertion longer ones in the same proportion, deed, of which it formed a part. The ingenuity try Persons sending Advertisements, must of man, Mr. Sirague observed, had thrown nnecifv the number or times they wish them doubts upon every subject. Grave philosophers .. j ;n k si orrl. had seriously contended that this material world

uisciicu.ui u,w was a mere non entity : and if the house chose to

spend the public money in discussions on such subjects as the present, there would be room indeed for retrenchment, and retrenchment to a much rreater extent perhaps than was contcm-

from the united STATES telegraph, plated by any honorable gentleman on that floor. The house then took up the consideration of If his voice might be heard, he would beg of them the motion offered by Mr. irr;. and the a- not to permit such a proposition even to lie on mendments proposed to it by Mr. Duncan, and the table of the house, notwithstanding the very Mr. Strove. respectable source from which it came, He hoThe question was upon the amendment of Mr. ped that his honorable friend from New York, Rrmntr that the committer should be also in- (Mr. Strong ) would consent to withdraw it. He,

structed to in-pure whether the right of property (Mr. Sfirague ) would not sanction any measure to the public lands bt longed to the states in which which threw the shadow of a doubt upon the title thrv were situated, or to the United States. of the U. States to the public domain.

Mr. Wekms regretted that a necessity should Mr. Strong said he could not, according to exist of his sav ing any thing more upon the sub- his present impression of the propriety of the im-t before the house: but he thoueht it requisite measure, const nt to withdraw his amendment.

again to submit to the consideration of congress, nor was he inclined to discuss the subject cn that the claims of the state ct Maryland, to a small occasion. His was a simple proposition to refer

pittance of the public lands. to a committee the question ot property to me Woro tho Sfifakt-r observed, that the question public lands. The argument at present was all

was upon the amendment of the gentleman from on one side on the side of the states in whose Vow-York, and the debate must be confined to territories the lands were situated, and who were

that subject. now advancing their claims to them ; and he, ' Mr. V f.em s said he would so confine his ob- (Mr. Strong thought that the voice of public scrvations, and he might not have been disposed opinion out of their states should be heard. Neito trouble the house again, had the speech of the ther he, nor the state which he in part represcn(vpiitloman from Alabama. (Mr. Moore) been ted. could feel anv peculiar interest in the adop-

ilelivcred in the terms in which it was reported in tion or rejection of the proposition, further than the paper which he held in his hand, (Mr. litems as it affected the general welfare of the Union, had a newspaper in his hand,l but such was not The question was one of great and grave itnporthc case. He had been charged with getting into tance ; and the time must arrive, and indeed was a violent passion with the governor of Illinois ; not far distant, when it must undergofit only a and that charge he begged leave to deny. He thorough discussion, but a final settlement ; and had no cause for passion with that gentleman, when, he would conclude by observing, wimeand he trusted that he had too much respect for thing further would be canvassed than the u.ere that house, for his constituents, and for himself, question of the right of property in the lands, cither to fall into a passion, or to make an attack Mr. Moore, (of Ala.) rose. said Mr. S:azupon any person who was not present to repel it, Xrr, in the conclusion of the fe w remarks which and to defend himself. He was, however, rcjoi- I submitted when this subject was under discusred that the governor of Illinois had so valiant sion yesterday, I moved to lay the resolution and and sincere a friend to sally forth in his defence amendment on the table, which I presumed as the gentleman from Alabama, (Mr. Moore. J would preclude further debate until withdrawn. But he should have thought that, when on the I regret, that this proposition was not heard by preceding day, in consequence of the explanation the Speaker ; I regret it the more, because, havof the gentleman from Illinois, (Mr. Duncan,) ing been absent this morning in the transaction he, (Air. Ileems ) had expressly disclaimed the of important business in the public offices, I was intention of giving offence to that gentleman or not here when the honor-Able member from Mains constituents ; or to the state which he repre- ryland thought proper to make some remarks, sentcd with so much honor to himself he should which my friends inform me, may be construed have thought, he said, that it was not particular- in a way to partake of personality. I can now lv imperative upon the member from Alabama, only meet these, by conjecturing their import, to speak upon the subject. His observations did from what a friend has informed me. Sir, 1 not applv to the governor, but to the message of wish it expressly to be understood, that I assume the governor to the legislature : as to the charge no dictatorial tone here or eUcroherc, that 1 will of passion, perhaps he might possess so much of not support, or take the consequences Of, either the weakness and infirmity of human nature, as here or elsewhere. V too often to give way to excitement, nay he was Here the Speaker interfered, and declared sensible that his manner has often induced per- that the gentleman from Maryland, hadttfpresssons to believe him out of temper, when, in fact, ly disavowed any personality, he was not at all so ; but of this he could not re- ' Then, sir, if he disavows it, I am content. liee himself : the deep interest he was apt to But, sir, he asks why I assume the defence of take in the transactions aivund him, often produ- the governor of Illinois? I have done no such

ced this mistake, which he beged gentlemen in thing ; I have attempted to detenu ins doctrine

The House agreed to the motion, and the resolution and amendment, were accordingly laid on the table. : O : D : o : r.yyy cm From the A'ational Journal

PUBLIC LANDS During the late session of Conpress, the

subject of the distribution of the proceeds of sales of Public Lands was referred to a se

lect committee of the House, on motion of

Mr. J. b. Stevenson, who submitted a reso

lution enjoining it upon that Committee to enquire into the " expediency of distributing, anually, amongst the several States, in pro-

portion to their representation in this House,

all moneys arising from the sales of the public lands,' &c,

On the 25th of February, this select com

mittee made a renort. tcrminatine- with the

following resolution i

" Resolved, That it is expedient to pro-

....

viae by law lor the annual distribution amongst the several States of the Union, in

proportion to their respective population, the nett proceeds of the sales ol all public lands." According to this report, "the whole landed superficcs of our States and Territories, and of the great Western region, comprises 1,404 millions of acres, and the indisputable right of soil yet remains in the U. S. to 1,065 millions of acre " The resolution declaratory of the expediency of distributing the proceeds of such of these lands as remain to be sold amongst the several States," seems to have taken for its foundation the condition contained in the grant from Virginia of the Northwestern Territory, (comprising Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, the Territory of Michigan,

and the proposed Territory of Huron,) that j

me icrniory ceded shall be " considered a common fund for the use and benefit of such of the United States a3 have become or shall become members of the cnnfedeia'.ion, or federal alliance of the said States, Vit ginia inelusive, according to their usual respective proportions in the general charges and ex penditurc, and shall be faithfully and dona fide dispose d of for that purpose, and For no other use and purpose whatever." and a similar

condition contained in the third article of the deed of cession by Georgia of l all that part of the present States of Mississippi and Alabama which lies north of the 31st degree of north latitude " Attached to this report, which, as contain imj a historical sketch ol the public lands, we shall take the first opportunity to publish at length, is a tabular statement of the population of the U. S. in 1800 and 1 820 and the estimated population in 1 850 and 1 860. y is calculated that the aggregate population in 1830 will be 13 millions, and, in 1860, 32 millions, allowing an increase of 35 per cent, lor every ten years, which has been lhc rate of increase heretofore According to their extent of territory, the States and Territories may be ranked thus: 1st, Virginia 64,000 square miles ; 2d, Missouri 61,000; 3d Geor gia 58,000; 4th, Illinois 56,000 ; 5th, Florida 54.500; 6'h, Alabama 53,100 ; 7th, Lou isiana 49,000; 8th, Mississippi 46,358 ; 9th, New York 46,000; 10th, Arkansas 45,300 ; 1 1th, Pennsylvania 43,950; 12th, Tennessee 41,300; 1 3th, Kentucky and Michigan, each 39,000; 14th, Ohio 38,800; 15th Indiana 35,100; 16th, Maine 32,000; 17th, South Carolina 30,030; 18th, Maryland 10,8C0; 19th, Vermont 10,212; 20th, New Hampshire 9,280 ; 21st, Masachusctts 7,800JWd, New Jersey 6,900 ; 23d, Connecticut 44.; 24th, North Corolina 3,800 ; 25th, Delcwatc

this house to recollect ; so as to be charitable in and principles urged in behalf ot the new states,

s attribute his and I have done nothing more ; and in this I

Indiana, eleven and a half to the square mile, total 400,000. Geot gia, 7 to the square mile, total 410,000. Alabama, 7 to the square mile, total 380,000. Louisiana, 6 to the square mile, toal 300,000. Mississippi, three to the square mile, total 130,000. Illinois, two and one third to the square mile total 13o,ooo. Missouri, 2 to the square mile, total 13o,ooo. Michigan, 1 to the square mile, total 35,ooo. Arkansas, 1 to the square mile, total 35,ooo. Florida, 1 to the square mile, total 4o,ooo. Upon this report there was no legislative action at the last session. Whenever, if ever, it shall be taken up for consideration, we may expect a warm Sc protracted discussion. Lodon papers to the 27th January have been received from an arrival at Boston.

lhcy do not present any thing new. Rumours oF a mediation and intervention continue to prevail, relative to the Turkish war ; but if the vast preparations making to renew the campaign on the part of the emperor, be true, and he is determined to retrieve the military reputation lost, he will listen to no terms through mediation. The evacuation of the Morea by the French is almost complete. Col. Fabvier has assumed the command of the Grecian army, with increased prospects of success. Lord Cochrane relinquished 2o,ooo. of the sum which the Greeks had engaged to pay for his services, on the condition that he might retain the title of grand admiral of Greece. An account dated Odessa, January 3. sayt that the winter had set in with unexampled

seventy ; as lar as the eye could reach the sea was frozen, and no ships could enter or leave the port. Despatches from Egina, dated December 29, state that the port ofSalonaon the north coast of the gulph of Lepanto, had surrendered to the Greeks, with 8oo men, Albanians, who had been allowed to return to their homes. Franklin Kefi. Charleston. March 7. To capt. Weston, of the brig Scion, arrived this day from Havana, we are indebted for the papers oF that place, to the 2d inst. and for the particulars as far as known at Havana, at the tTme of his sailing, of acts of piracy committelJVmerican vessels engaged in the Cuba trade. The complains among the merchants and masters of vessels, engaged in the American trade, at the non-protection of our govern mcnt, are loud and indignant. There had not been an Amciican vessel of war at Havana, for four months. Considering that nearly loo vessels from the U. States enter the port! of Havana yearly, those engaged in the trade are mortified and chagrined, at being under the necessity of applying to the British, French and Spanish ships of war for convoy. The Scion sailed under French convoy. The governor general of Cuba, had issued a proclamation, offering a reward oF &5ooo, for the capture of a piratical schooner, and all, or two thirds oFher crew R2ooo Fortho schooner alone, and g25o, for each andveA ry one of her crew. N The Amci ican merchants, and masters ot

vessels in Havana, chartered a schooner to

go in pursuit o! the pirate.

A midshipman of the U. S. navy wat appointed commander, she was fitted out with two long guns on pivots, and had a crew of

v

their judgments, and not always

arnest manner to his being out of temper

Be- shall persevere. May I not ask, why the g;ntlc-

side?, gentlemen should reflect, that before they man will denounce on this lloor, the executive of charged him with faults, they should be first sat- that state who is absent ? ishVd that thev were wholly exempt from such Sir, that gentleman, if present, would not need

faults on their own part. Gentlemen sometimes out ot that house (it would be indecorous for him to suppose that such things existed within that house,) arrogated to themselves a dictatorial right of controling the opinions or sentiments of others, and assumed the privilege of correcting or censuring their language. Hut it was his, (Mr. IVcens ) maxim, wheuex er an attempt was made to dictate to him in such manner, to let it be pcrt. cilv understood on what ground he placed him5vlf. "in order to slop at the threshold the consequences of such conduct. He was not disposed to hnitj an attack, but, from the President and the Major General downwards, he was prepared i meet one. Perhaps, unprovoked attacks might he made bv some chivalrous personage or r.ther, founded upon the presumption of the religions forbe arance of those upon whom they were made. If such a feeling could be supposed to exNt towards himself, he certainly did not envy the man in whose breast it resided. But perhaps it was more consistent with his duty to the house, and to a paramount tribunal elsewhere, to stop there. He must, however, observe, that although he had no disposition to throw the gauntlet, nei ther was he inclined to let it lie at his feet, if cast there. After some remarks expressive of his wish to meet, in his mssaec through life, with

persons as amicably disposed as himself, and of

his opinion, that it became them, alike as members of society, and as representatives ef the pcorde. to place a guard over their tempers ; he said

that he again wished it to be understood that his

observation implied no censure upon governor

Ldwurds, but strictures upon the doctrines of his

message ; and why any member in particular

should volunteer as the defender of that gentle

man, lie would leave to him to explain, reserving

to himself privilege to meet it. In conclusion, he l.optd and trusted tha the resolution would re-

rev defence. And this, all will admit, who have

an acquaintance with him, that he is fully able and competent to meet any attack. But, sir, I repeat, that it is the doctrine of the executive of Illinois upon this subject, that I support and defend. And here, let me say, that this is not a doctrine so recently advanced, as the gentleman from Maryland may suppose. Sir, if he had such sensibility at the avowal of such principles, he might have denounced them last winter for this subject was broached in the other branch of the national legislature during last session, and very ably advocated and supported by argument almost irresistible, by the honorable Senator from Alabama, (Mr. 'McKinky ) and the same principles have been recently avowed by the legislature of that state, it could not, therefore, be expected that I could do less than support them with my exertions, believing as I do, that they are founded in accuracy. But, sir, it is time enough for this discussion, when the subject shall be brought fairly before us by the memorials from the new states ; & then I have reason to believe the friend3 to these principles favorable to the interests of the new states will not be alarmed by the indications already civen here by wav of anticipation cr earnest, as

it were, of the opposition they intend to make to

the measure. f Mr. Sheaker if I exhibit any warm ieelinR up

on this subject, I was not conscious of it. But, sir, surelv the gentleman ought not to take anv

exception, when it so well known that he set the

example of appearing to be excited but I assure him that I intended no personality. I now repeat, that I believe this subject has as

sumed an importance to which it can make no just claims, and I therefore renew the motion to

lay the resolution, and amendment upon the

tab!?,

o5 men. i he government of Cuba, required ot the merrhanfH tn nriv hnnrl fnr rrnr(4

2,068, 26th, Rhode Island 1,360; and 27th, conduct of the crew, who being persons not the District of Colombia 100 square miles. kll0Wn in Havana, and a possibility that they

The estimate of the population to each

snuare mile, and the aggregate population in

these States and Territories for 1830, arc as

follow :

District of Columbia, 500 to each square mile, total 50,000 ; Massachusetts 74 to the square mile, total 580,000; Rhode Island 66 to the square mile, total 90,000 ; Connecticut sixty-two to the square mile, total 290,000; New Jersey forty-eight to the square mile, total 330,000 ; New York, forty three to the square mile, total, 2,000,000 ; Maryland, forty one to the square mile, total 450,000. Delaware, thirty nine to the square milef)tal 80,000.

New Hampshire, thirty two to the srfaS !

mile, total 300,000. Pennsylvania, thirty two to the square mile, total l,S90,000. Vermont, twenty seven U. a half to the square mile, total 280.000. Ohio, twenty five U. a half to the tquare mile, total, one million. South Carolina, twenty to the square mile, total 600,000. Virginia, eighteen and a half to the square mile, total 1,180,000. North Carolina, sixteen to the square mile, total 720,000. Kentucky, fifteen and a half to the square mile, total 650,000. Tennessee, fourteen and ahalF to the square mile, total 600,000. Maine, 13 to the square mile, total 420,000.

would rise on their officers, and become pirates themselves, the government would not permit them to pass the Moro. This requisition, by the government, created much excitement among the Americans 5 but it was the opinion oF some persons, that the Spanish requisition, so Far as it was understood, was judicious. As it is probable many on board arc runaways oFbad character. The captain oF a small English sloop, informed captain Weston, that he saw a ship lying too, in company with a small schooner, the same day the New Priscilla was seen on the bank, and several other vessels were then in sight, some of which probably fell into the hands of the pirates. The same sloop saw an hermaphrodite bring laying too, (no doubt the New Priscilla) after he saw the schooner along side the ship from this it would appear, hat many vessels have Fallen into the V hands oF these desperadoes. The extent of

captures, and the loss of liFe, cannot there- ' Fore, be conjectured at present. Baltimore, March 14. Horrid Put act The editors of the A, merican have received From their attentive

correspondent at Havana, a letter under date oFthe 28th February, From vthich they make the Following extracts : " The brig Attentive Grozier, sailed From Matanzas For N. York, with a cargo oF molasses, sugar and coffee, on the morning oF the 22d inst. In six hours aFter leaving the port, she was captured by a piratical, black topsail schooner, oF two long guns and about fifty men. The crew, with the exception oF the captain, vfas driven into the foreptak. Tht unfortunate Groxier tts