Western Sun & General Advertiser, Volume 19, Number 13, Vincennes, Knox County, 3 May 1828 — Page 1
BY ELIHU STOUT.
VlCENftNES, (1.ND.) bA TLRbA Y, MAY 3, 1828. Vol. 19. iio. 13
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A failure to notify a wish to discontinue at
composed, in part, of United Slates volunteers, enrolled under the acts of congress ; of ihc miliua, detached under a requisition from the war department ; and, in part, of volunteers, who, Uemg best armed, turned out, up on the piessing emergency, to repel an ap
proaching invasion of ilii- state and the Mis-
the expiration of the time subscribed for, will j sissippi tcrritoiy. I hc first named, think be considered a new engagement; no sun- l,nal lnclr tcrm of service expires (as I have scribcrat liberty to discontinue, until all ar-i'dre advised you) on this day. 1 he second.
rearagesarc paid Subscribers must piy the i 1 understand, are ot opinion, that their term
postage on their papeis when sent by mail.
ol service will expire at the end of 3 months
Letters by mail to the Editor on business i lro" l,leir entrance into service, that time ue-
must be p ud, or they will not be attended to. j ng considered, by the mnitia law ot tins state,
Produce will be received at the Cash ; Passed prior to the act ot congress, under
Mtrkct Price, for subscriptions, if delivered i vviucli the detachment was made, as a tour ot
wiihin tho vnir. i duty The 3d dcscrintion, I have ieason to
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MIL ITU DOCUMEXTS
believe, consider that they ought not" to be
expected to serve longer than a thi ec months tour from their entrance into the service, if that long. When these troops were called into the service, the tcrm they were expected to serve was not mentioned in thcinstruc tions I received fiom the war department, or in the act of the general assembly oi this state under which a part of the force was called out; neither wus it mentioned in mv order
The following arc the document transmit- ; calling them out I not having been advised ted to the house of repi cscntatives, by the ' of the most acceptable term to the governsecretary of war, in answ or to the resolu- j mcnt, and Knowing no other limitation to tion of the house ol ihc I Gih of January J their service- than such as was provided for 1023, on the subject oi the court martial j by the acts of congress, unless sx.oner dis
held at M'tbile; which were, on the. 1st charged by -orcici ot the president.
February, 1 8 27, referred to the committee on military affairs, and ordered to he printed ; and, on the Nth February, oaiercd, when printed, to be appended to the report of the said committee thereon Department of War, Jan. 25, 132S. Sin In obedience to the resolution ol the
nuiiao vi i v.3v.ihuii v-3 ,ii I Will lUDlUMl,
1 believo the principal red:-on why those troops, in part, feel a desire to be discharged on the 10th inst. is, that the volunteers think that they should not be compelled to ser ve longer than one year fi om the time they were called into service, as they have held themselves ready to act at the call of the govern-
mcnt, since the loth December, IS 13 This
pcciable men among them have enrolled themselves as privates all ate entitled to crcuit for then paitioiism The commanding officers of companies piobabiy told their men that they would be paid Also, the copy oi a letter from me to maj gen Jackson, of the 22d inst. in answer to Ins, just ihen received. He informed me that the U. States volunteer infantry were on their way, from his camp, to this place, to be dismissed or dischaigcd by me, if I was authoiizcd to do so, or to await the order of government thciefor as he was not authorized to discharge them. lie thol it most advisable, for public good, to take that course, as they insisted that they had served their tour. He acknowledges that their services have been impoitant; that he feels a lively interest in their vvcilat e, and hopes, under ait circdmstanccs, that it rhay comport with the views ol government, to order their discharge in a manner honorable to the volunteers. Mv letter to vou of the 1 0th inst. and one of prior dale, vviil make known to you their ground of expectation for their discharge; and, although 1 feel ;rvat delicacy
would be most judicious in government to give, the better to effect the objects of tho campaign, more especially as there is reason to believe that a Bri'.ish fleet has arrived at Pensacola ; I cannot doubt but that the government will shortly give new instructions ta have a new force organized, to effect the objects of the compaign, and to oppose the Britibh ; and that the president will be satisfied to consider that the three months tour performed by yours and gen. Cocke's detachments, with so much good to the service, and with so much credii to yourselves, may terminate the present campaign. I can think of no better plan to pursue, so as to keep up the spirits of all; for , when once militia, or any other troops take it into their heads that they have seivcd their tour of duty, it is'next toimpossible to convince them that to servo longer wou.d be ether just or laudable, c to attempt to keep up a force by voluntary enrolment, without the authority of government, would, as I ticl,be a vain attempt, notwith
standing it wouid be highly laudable, at this lime, if it were practicable; patching up an
in off-.: i ing an opinion to you, sir, on a subject, j army that way, would ifTcct no permanent
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1 am aware, ! nae nought to expicsjano pinion on not bemg authorized to intcitcic with troops in the mi vice oi the U States, or with what r elates to ihcirlerm ol service, or
dichai ge v ct
mv
respect
directing the secretary of war to furnish that j has occasioned much uneasiness and emhar house u with a copy of the proceedings of aj rassm'eni at carnp. The balance pvobnb y arc court martial which commenced its sittings I influenced by their recollection of a tour of at or near Mobile, on the 5th dav of Decern-1 dutv under the provisions ol the militia law bcr, 1814, for the trial of certain Tennessee i of this state, and by their want of clothing, :c.
militia-men, together with a copy of all the j for a longer term of service; ai.d another ar
orders for the organization of said court, as well as those subsequently issued in relation
to its decisions. And. also, to furnish copies of all papers, letters and documents, relating to said court martial ; copies of all orders, gener a, or special, made or issued by the president of the United States, or by the secretary of war, concerning or relating to the length of service of the detachment of Tennessee militia, detailed under the order of the
governor of said state, issued on the 20th dav J government.
gumcnt may be. that the circumstances under which 'hey were called, (to repel an ap proaching invasion, in part) did not admit of delay in their making the necessary pvepcr a tion for a tour of six mon'hs, as the act of
congress
i quires, unless
respecting
detached militia re
sooner discharged by the pre
for those volun
leers, lor tin ir services, and my bcii f that they honestly consider thcmscU s entitled to an honorable dischat gc, from their impression that they have servt-d as long as they were hound to serve, ami a bel.cf that such a step would promote the good of the service, I am induced repectfu!ly to say, thai I hope thai gover nmcn', who nc has the power, will order th m honorably c'.is'-imi ge d, and cem pc.nsnlcd I'M their sen ices, which have been acknowledged as impoi lant, not being myself authorized to discharge them, as you know. I cannot do it. The genet al, ft om a sense of his duty as an officer ucd his exertions to induce the volunteers to lemain in service until the will of government should be known as to their term ol service. Hen Jackson also informs me, that, as the miliua and-voluntecrs who wrto ordered out under his and g n Ccckc's c ommand, upon the present campaign. i:ve impressed with a belief tluit they should not be lerjuired or ex pee'ed to seive longer than 3 months f'om
sident : in other words, thev had not time to j their enttanrc into service, manv e. whom, i prepare. Their promptitude promoted the ! hav w- served t hat long, hav e gone hmc, he
serv ice
their
opt alien! n::n to t he c he irrwti t ant sc rv ic es
air, that his lojce wili he, in a very few days,
tin v i rt ;!u; ed !o a very small nuiobcr, with whom.
ill o! t t(
w nrr
nav e rcnricieu in toe tieii;, iiu' i"g itie s term t'aev have bee u in sfrtcc, t r-ches
belief, that thev cannot !c rirtrnaed, in their willingness to return, lor ;nv oth.cv retir.on
than the above mentioned
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n't. imweve-r. ne pt opi .ses to rr a, at loit rrother, t!:ror (.'of,i;a. until ?eiriuuvd l:y dtafed men
!rom this s'a'e, which tirart thf'ie is no in stt nclioi's feem the por cr ant horitv to cause
. 'hesf IVct at.f' ; to be made, hence, I w rote, him the letter
CCd ins'.
opinions at e stated for the information oi" the j now enclosed ol the
of May, 1814, and afterwards placed under
the immediate command of iieut. col. Philip Pipkin; also, copies of such order, and of the muster Sc pay rolls of said militiamen, which maybe on file in the department of war.
And to furnish copies of any orders of tire
resident or secretary of war, bv which, in
lEexercisc ol the discretion vested m the president by the 3th section of the act of the
18th April, 1814, the tcrm of service of the
Tennessee militiamen may have been extend-1 supplied. It is pt churned that the object of j the objects of the campaign are not yet ac
ed beyond three months ; also, copies of two , the campaign is not yet c heeled. Jk U mar not ! comphshed, nod that owing to .ne short time
government, with whom it
to nc' et toine
I
how
long
tht v shall ser ve, to order thei' dis ; vice
lin-
of
understand that the term of ser
ine (.J-.-o'vu Hoops, and of the volun
charge, and likewise to order, in the even of j teers co".uu::r.dcd by gen. Claibor ne. below, is their dischat gc, how their places arc io be expected shortly to ex pir e. I presume that
letters from the secretary of war to rovcrnor
Blount, dated the 1 1th and 3 1st Jan I3MAnd, also, to furnish copies of any correspondence in the war department between the president and secretary of war, or the governor of Tennessee, during the late war, on the
be for some time to come, ith best exertions
Under these circumstances, and from a de- ! sire, felt here, to promote the good of the ,cri vice, it would be acccotabic to the men in
service to be informed how long they are ex.
pected to serve, and if tiiey at e to be dischat
gcd, by w hose order, and how their daces j
the present t'otce has to serve, that these ob
jects cannot be ellVct' d hy them. ? beg leave very respect fit ! 1 y to say, that the present as pect of rnVirs in this section of the Union, teaches the '.iclicf. that government should
" keep up an imposing fot ce in this quarter si Anns, ram;i eouinar-e, Sc Sc. ncctssarv for
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stibiect of the time which the drafted militia
of said stntcshouid be required to serve in ' are to be supplied. Information on these j the supply of the militia who may be crdled the armies of the United States. ! points is respectfully solicited, believing that j into service from this quarter, is much want-
1 communicate the enclosed elocumcrtts. ; tire good ol the service, and tire situation ot eci. m:cu troops as gen. 1 icuinoy may can
jFrom the reports of the adjutant general, and ! the frontier requires it. I am requested to the chief clerk of this denartmcnt. no other! make these inouiiics I have t he bono-, lie
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documents within the scope of the resolution
except those transmitted, can be found in this j department. I have the honor to be, your obedicnt servant, J MKS NAUHOUR. ! The hon. Andrew Stkvksson, s i:.r. -
WILLIE BLOUNT.
The hon. Secretary of tl'ar.
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Certificate of the chief Clerk of the depart mcnt of war.
Drfiarfment of War, Jan. 24, 1 S-.
for, I fear. could not well march without uch
supplies being afforded by the govci nment, in any seasonable time so as to act with etT ct. These militia who were in service, under
j gens Jackson ami v ockc. on whom govern j n.ent relied to fili such requisitions as gen j Flour noy migit make, vou will discover by
i the fo!Tgtmg information, given me by gen
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Governor Blount to the Secretary of
! Nashville, Dec 24, 1813
: Sir I nave the honor to enc'ose to you the i .tachson, consider tlrat they have, and shortly
copy of a letter fronr maj. gen John Cocke,; ill hav e, pel formed their tour of duty. Gen j in sc. '.ice, to me, dated 27lh Nov. with if' Fiournoy has not yet made a requisition I
T certify, that I have bv the direction of the ' enclosure, just received by mail. It nHords have the honor lobe, vpiy rccr'( ctfully, your
Secretary of was care fully examined the tc- an additional proof of the gallant conduct of j t bd't. scrv't. WILLIE BLOUNT, cords (if this department, and that thcaccom- our tremps. Aho, the copy of a btu;r, writ- Hon. John' Armstrong, Srcfy. of liar p roving papers numbered from 1 to l, are ten by me, to col. Wm. Carroll, of the 7th Enclosed in letter to the Secretary of War, true copies of all the correspondence in the inst. the better to pt omotc tb public service. of 21' h December, I811
v,ar department, between the president or se- Gen. Jackson had just informed mc, that tire! Governor Blount to gen. A Jackson.
crct.it v of war, and lite governor of Tenncs- U S. volunteer inlant-v, tbcti with him, b?- Nashvillk, Dec 22, 1813
see, diirinr the late war, on the subject of lieving that their 'rni of service would cx-j Dcr Sir Since writing vou fully of this
the time for which the drafted militia of said pire on the 10th inst. expected to be, and instate should serve in tire armies of the Unit- : sisted on bemg discharged on that day ; and,
1 States. And I further
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:r cer tify, that it docs J if dischat gcd then, or if they left camp, it Iriolic sen
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not anner, irom tne recoros ot tnis ocpar e-' , uou,.. weaKcu uis luicv; ;u iv i ,vju , aoo m-u- o mv
mcnt, that any application was made by the that he, the better to promote, the service, bad governor of Tennessee, to the war depart-j thought it advisable and necessary, to send in mcnt, on the subject of the length of service i col. Carroll for an equal number of men to of the d t'achment of li e Tennessee militia j supply their places. I was not authorized, detailed under the orders of the governor of j by any instructions received from the war detint state, issued on the 20th of May, I S 1 4, j p?rtmcnt, or otherwise, to order trie . aid reand afterward placed under the command of! quired, but, knowing the necessity, if these lieut. col. Philip Pipkin ; or that any orders, j volunteers should be discharged, or leave general or specivl, were made or issued by j camp, at that time, for the general's having the president of the United States, or by the j their places supplied, I wrote that letter to secretary of war, concerning or relating to j col Carroll, w ho has sbrce informed mc, that the length of service of that detachment. I he should, in a few days, assemble and march
CIIK. J. NOUUSE, Chief Clerk: about 7 or HUU volunteers to the general's re
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No. r Willie Blount to the Secretary of War. Nashville, 10th Dec. 1315.
"Sir The force from this state, called into service to act against the hostile Creeks, is
lief. I trust, sir, that this course, taken with a view to promote the good of the service, will meet the approbation of the government, and that those men will be received into the service, and that compensation will be mar'c them for their services. Many highly res-
uate, 1 hav e reccrvcei oy major Davul mith,
your vc;y interesting letter, replete with pa
entimcnts, dated 15th inst oil will
letter ol the IQ'.h, to the st-cretary
of war, how lam placed with respect to in
struriicns, w hich, as it relates to the good of the service, and a most righteous cause, in support of which you arc most laudably and zealously engaged, I must regret. The tin fortunate cwnsti uction given by the troops, generally, respecting their term of serv ice, at this very interesting crisis in public affairs, in this section of the Union, is to be lamr ntcd ; but since it is the most general, and likely to become almost the universal constiuctinn in camp; and since there is nnauthotity vested here, that can be interposed, to jjive a coun ter current of opinion, with the prospect of effecting any permanent gofdtothe service, or tothe cause you are engaged in; and a- it is likely that my letter of the 10th inst. will produce new orders for a term of service yet to commence, which, under all circumstances
good I am not at liberty, as an execu'ive
officer, to address you, who hold a command in the service ot the U States. I am incapable ol willingly saying or doing any thing to injure the service, or that would injuriously afi'ect the reputation of deserving men, or tho s'anding of an able and patriotic hero and general ; but, as a friend to my governmentf most ardently desirous thai every step taken in this quarter may promote the good of the
service, and the standing of those who deserve well of their country, 1 do not see what important good can grow out of your "continuing at an advanced post, in an enemy's country, w ith a handful of brave men. Would it not, under all circumstances, be most likely to be attended with good consequences fop you to return to the frontier of Tennessee, and, with your patriotic force, defend our frontier, where provision can be more readily ufTodcel on better terms to the government; biinging with you, your baggage and supplies ; and there, on the fronrier, await tho order of gov ernment, or until I can be authorized to reinforce you, or to call out a nevr force ? At this lime, I really do not feel authorized to order a draft, or I would, with tho greatest of all pleasures I could feel, do it. Were I toa'temptit in an unauthorized way, it would injure as I think, the public serviec. which I would rather die than to do. I could not positively assure the men that they would be paid. I send you a copy ot tho president's message, and am gratified to seo the haneUome terms he uses in speaking of
I y u and of g?n. CofTee's battles He seems
to mran something about rensacola, and to effect his (.1 ject best, a new force should cer tainly be or goiitzt d. tMar.y who are now, and hne been in the campaign, would go again rn that In sine ss, if they are pleased with tho presidf Hi's dtcisirn icsprctiny their term of service, under the 'ate orders I shall horn what I have said about ihe propiiety of your return tothe Tennessee frontier, ffel hound to send a copy of this 'o the war department, for ti e information of government, and by way of apology for offering such an opinion loan officer in the service of the U St?es. I am, with the highest resp ct and most sincere regard, your friend. WILLIE BLOUNT. M.j. gm ANDREW JACKSON, U. S. service, Creek nation. N, The Secretary of War to Gov Blount. War Defiartmrnti Jan 3. 8 ' 4. Sir Your excellency's letter, of the 10th ultimo, has been received. It is tin ught most advisable, under all circumstances, that the construction given to their engagements, by the organized volunteet s of 1812, be admitted. In no other case, however, have volunteers of the san e desciiption refused to make good three hundred and sixty five days' actual service The miiitia may be considered as having been called out under the law of 1795, which limits the service to three months The president is the more disposed to make this decision, as the state law provides that a period of three mi nibs shall be dcen ed a tour of duty, and as the spirit and pattio'ism of Tennessee leaves no doubt but that a succession of corps, competent to the objris of governm'n,wiJI be regularly provided Your excellency has been informed that Mr MtGhce, the contiactor, was supp'ird uith funds to cet the requisitions for provisions, and fris receipt for money which vou furnished for his accommodation is herewith returned It was distinctly stated to him, that our excellent y would be paid out of the advance which he leccived while at this place. J ARM SI RONG. Gov. Blount, of Tennessee. No 8 Governor Blount to the Secretary of Wfar. Namiyillk, Jan 5 1814 Sr I have the hi mur to transmit, for voui info'mation and sanction, tKe copv of my order of the 3d inst. for calling out 2.500 men from the second division of Tennessee militir, to reinforce major general A. Jack sun, attb
