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ih aid of the election of Mr. Adams. Nor da t know or believe thai any pledge of prombc ot any kind was made by Mr. Adams or ibis friends to Mr. Clay or his li iends, to procure hi aid in the election 1 never heard from Mr. Clay or any ot his friends, or any one else, that lie was willing to vole tor yen. Jackson, if the general wou.d say, or any ol his. triends for him, that Mr. Adams should Slot be continued secretary ol slate. Nor do I knaw or believe that Mr. Clay ever cxprcs d a willingness, or any of his friends tor him, to support or vote tor gcneial Jackson, if he could obtain the otlice of secretary ot state under him. I do not know or believe that any overtures' or offers of any kind were made by Mr. Clay or his friends to Mr. Adams dr his friends to vote for him or support him if he would make Mr. Clay secretary ol State or to general Jackson or his friends to vote for him or support him, if he could ob
tain the office of secretary of state under him ; not do I believe Mr. Clay would have taken
office under him if he hail been elected " 1 tliatl hereafter have occasion to notice other
parts of the letter of Mr Ttlmblc from which
the preceding extract has beui taken. Mi F Johnson suites, in his answer to Di
Walkms, a I have tv hesitation, however, in
answering your inquiries Alter writing the
aboves extract you say to me " It such a
proposition were ever made by the friends ol
Mr Clay to those of genual Jackson, it must
have been known to many pc sons, k the fact,
thcrcf rc, mav be ai.ci tamed May I ask he
favor of you to inform me win thcr you know or beiievhahy such ptoposition was ever made,
or whether conditions ol any sort wcte made by the Iriends ot Mr. Clay, to any person, on compliance with w hich their vote was to de pe.;dr 41 To the first branch of the inquiry, my an awcr is, that I have no knowledge uf any iuch proposition, nor do I believe any such vas ever made To the second, I answer, that t neither knew of, nor do I believe, Uia' any conditions, of any sort, weic made by the friends ot Mr Clay to any person, on which
their vote was to depend General Metcalf, with his characteristic firmness k traukness, say. : 44 I nave instate that I never heard, or th ug'o of such a pio position until the letter of the highly respectable Vn gintan appeal d in the pubiic prints ' lie proceeds u As one of the triends of Mr Clay. 1 enter the most solemn pi o'est against the right ol the general, through his ot gun the highly r specahle Vit ginian, or otherwise, to lay that 1 w mid have assisted in maklr.g him president on the condition stated. On the Contrary, it" I could have been made to believe that general Jackson would not have ofieicd to Mr Adams the place which he had fil.ed viih so much abilitv und r Mr. Monroe, 'hat belief would have consiituied, in my mind, strong additional objection to the general's success " u It it is intended to import tho bc'iet that Mr. Cl.iyN friends were desiruu of obtaining the appointment fur him to the exclusion of Mr. Adams, or otherwise, under general Jackson, as one of his friends, I pro jiouncc it a base k infamous assault upon the Iiiotives and honor, so far as I am concerned Or believe, of those who did not choose to support him for Hie presid ncy." In teplv to your second" iuquirv, I have to say, that, if Con.iiiions o any so.tweic ever made bv the friends ot Mr Ouy to any person, on a compliance with .vhich their vote was made to depend. I know nothing of it." Judge. Letcher, the only member 'f congfcs vvno ba;dc ) in the smic house wnh me, duiiug the svssi"ii, at which the presidential election was ms !e, testifies: 4 I know of no su hp'oposi'ion or intimation, nor have I a Kn.iwicdgot any fact or en conusance which xvoutd tndu-e inc to believe Mr Clay's friends, or any of thorn, ever made such a proposition to the Friends of gen Jackson.' ' Mr. t'ho.nps n says : "I kn.ivv ol no piop 'Sition made by toe ftiends of Mr Clay to the friends of general Jackson, to make him president, if he would not select Mr. A (lams to the ser.l of secretary ; and I do not believe a proposition of any kind was made, and I expect, if thcfiiend of the genera, should ever apeak on the subject, he will be a second Kt finer " Mr. Buckncr testifies : " In answer to your Inquiiics on the subject, 1 will remark, that 1 have no reason to believe that any such proposition was made linked, no proposition.
of any description, relating to the elect im oft
president, was made, so tar as I know or believe, by Mr. Clay's friends to those ol gen!. Jackson, or of any other person " Mr. Scjt, the member bom Miss?rii, states that, ueilher Mr. Adams nor his friends ever mule arrv promises or overtures to me. nor di I they hold out to me, any indueeimn's ot ;ny sort, kind, cr Character Whatever to procure me to vote for Mr. Adams. Nor did Mr Adams, or any ot his friends, ever say or inv.nua'e. who would be placed at the head of the department of state, cr any other department, in the event that Mr Adami should be elected. Nor do I believe any propositions were made to Mr Clay or
bis friends, by Mr. Adams cr his ftiends
of any kind Ttbatetcr, nor did I ever heir It in
sinuated or hinted, that my piopositioti whs
made, or intended to be maue, 0) Mr. Ciay, oi tils triends, to genetat Jackson oi his li lends, or to any other candidate or then ti tends, lot,
or relating to the presidency. AoU 1 uu be
tieve had any pioposilioo been made, oi in
tended to have been uiaile, by Mr. Clay or his ft iends, from my intimacy and tut. sunt nilei course with them, i shou d l.ave Known or
heard thctcof " O Messrs. Gurlcy and Hicnl were the two members who gac ihe vote ot Louisiana to Mr. Adams. Mr Gurlcy declaies tual 1 have tio knowledge ol any propositions having been made by thcttiendsot Air. Clay or an) oi them to the ti lends ot general Jackson oi to any other person, in relation to the election ot piesident, or the proposition of conditions oi any sort, on a compliance with which then votes was made to depend. 1 believe Uncharge wholly destitute ot truth." Cot. Brent says, u In allusion to the Eayetteville letter, 1 cannot express the indignant feelings it excited. It is the fabrication of a desperate man, who to obtain his object, dares to assert what he knows to be false. You ask rue to say, whether I know or believe that such a proposition was ever made, or whether conditions ot any son wcte pio posed by the ftiends of Mi. Ciay to any one, on tho compliance with which their vote was made to depend. Nohonoiahle man can believe for a moment thai such a pioposuion was ever made, or such a condition stipulat
ed. 1 was a ftiendol Mr. Clay's throughout
the contest. I was in the confidence of all his
and especially that tthtcb is founded upon gen. Jackson's possession of military pretension only. And, in reference to an objection which Mr. Trimble understood me asemcrtaining against Mr. Adams, growing out of the ik gotidtions at Ghent, Mr Trimble states hat 1 icmaiked that it had been greatly magnified by the ftiends of his competitois t .r electioi'ti ting purposes ; that it ought to avc no influence in tile vote which he might be called upon to give; that, it he Was wnk nough to allow his person il feelings to in llucncc his public conduct, theie would be i:o hai.ge in his mind on that account, because ie was then oil much worse linns with gen. J ckson about the Seminole war, than he could ever be with Mr. Adams about the Ucaty of Ghent; that hi the selection of a chiet magistiate for the Union, he would endeavor to d siegard all private feelings, and look cntiicly to tSic inlet ests of the country, and the safety ol its institutions. It appears from the letter of Mr. Robert Tiimidc, one of ttie associate Justices of the
pally on his talenti, tnd experience-la-civH a Tails'" After the return of the votes of Louisiana. U. after the resolutions of the gen eral asscn.biy ot Kentucky, were received, Mr. Johnston states my adherence to that preference. He concludes by observing that no fact ever came to my knowledge that could in the slightest degree justify tho charge which has been exhibited. On the con traiy, I know that you opinion did undergo no change from ihc first lime I saw you on your ictuiii to Washington ;" that is, prior to ihc meeting ol congress During the present summer, two pemk men in the state ol lissssippi voluutaiily udd Mr. Johnston that they heard me express a decided preference ot Jr. Adams, at Lexington, before I left lion.e for Washington. Although not immediately connected with 'he main object ot this adduss, 1 ihink it proper to relcr to a part of Mr Johnston's letter, as sustaining two several statements, made by me on toinier occasions. 1 stated in my
add i ess to my constituents, that, it 1 had recti
accompanies that of Mr. D. Tiimb.'c, ihai
the tatter had avowed to the foimcr, fiscally as IYbrUary, or Mat ch 1824, his prefciei.ee of Mr. Adams to cither of ihe three camli dates, who were actually returned to the house of representatives. Col Davidson, t he It easui cr of hc st.Vol Kentucky, and n man of unblemished h.;nr, and unquestionable veiaciiy, states, that; riu ting a visit which I made to Vi auk fort, in tinfall of 1824. and he thinks only a few days pii
lor to my departure from Kentucky, to attend
friends, k I declare to God that 1 never heaid ; congress, (it must, thereh-ic, hav ber h cany
Supi erne court of the United States,) which t d the vote ol Louisiana, and been one of the)
thicc candidates letuined, 1 had lesolvcd, at a time when there was evcty probability of itceiving i, that 1 would not allow my,namcf in coi.recpiencc of ihe small number ol votes by which ii woi I I be canied into the house, il I were u turned, to constitute an cbstaclc tantlcc on. Mi J. l.nston says : u You replied tl.a" y u would not ptimit the country to be dumbed a day on your acccunt ; that you would not a''ow your name to intcitere with ti c piompt decision f the question. I Mated ; t Nob e's inn, rear Lexington, last in: nur.ihal 1 had rt quested a senator, w hen
of such a thing until it was asserted by the j in November, t.s 1 left home hchrcor jibout u y nomination :.s seci etr.iy ot state vrasact-
inc tciitn oi mat monin,; ne nan a antciMi- o ifoi., lo move a CMinr.ittre oi n quny, it tion witli me about the the n pending pi cl ;t m tiuid appea to I. in-necessary. Mr Johndemial election, in ihe com se of w hi en I c ic - ! sir n savs ; Af cr your nomination was con-
maructl, that i wou.tl have some cuit, cutty to : !fn; td . o mtornn:d mt that )( ti had it qties
encounter in mak'.ng a selection amr ngst the
candidates, if I should b-j excluded l;om the house. o w hi' h I t enlK (1 : ! sunnosc io
disappointtd adherents of gen. Jackson. I am
not only ignorant ol r.ny such arrangements, but do not believe they ever existed." Thus there is now betoiclhc public the united evidence of the delegation tiom cvciy aesteiu slate whose vote was conferred upon Mr. Adams, except thst ol Mr. Cook, he re
presentative Irom Illinois. A long and ling-'much; in that event I w;! enh -wr -.o d mv
cring illness, teiminated in the death of that duty laithlmly." He adds that I s'attd, m entieman, pt events the submission of his J the course ol the cenv crsation : 4I cannot Hut il is well known that Mr. Adams was his conceive an event that can possibly happen, choice, thiouhout the whole pi esident.al ! which could induce me to support the t leccanvass Although there existed hetwer n ; tion of general Jackson to the prcMdcticy him and myself good will and tesnectlul in- i Fur, if I had no other objection, his want ol
tercoursc, he never was politically nor per- the mces-ary qualihCatiuii would he suflici sunaiiy my Iricnd. Including Mr. White, ihe i cut." The i en. at ks m;;de a stiuiig iml last
public has the evidence ol twenty different
members of e.ongrcss, embiacing all my f: iends ficm the western states who voted for Mr. Ad tins. '1 heir a'ten.i'.n was chiellv directed, in the mc'-iaratiou of their reductive statements, to the Fay ctteviils letter, and it is to them that their tcstim tiy piincipaliy ap plies. Oil that point, they all concur in pio nouncing the most imrpialifieil iu gative, und, on other jvints, several (d them are no' less explicit. Is it credible, is it ctmsistcni whh the oidinaiy operations ot hunum naiiue, that thesr gentlemen, without any peiso d interest or motive whatever, should have in si basely given their concurrence to dishoooralne overtures, for my sole benefit, Jk. then should unanimously agree to lobilviig tiieuisel es : In the published circular which, in M.u n 1825, I addirssed to my constituents, I remarked, 14 at that early period, (early in No v ember 18,24l 1 stated to Dr. Di.die, o"C of the. pvofosso s iii the medical sch.ofd of the I'ransvlv aoi.. U'.ivei sitv , and to John J Crit tenden, esq ot Fiaukfoit, my determination to support Mi Adams in prtterence lo gen Jackson." I did not, at that time, recollect, nor do I probably now, all the occasions on
which 1 expressed, in convei sation, my opin
log impicssion on coioncl I) iv idsons niiiul, and wlunt e i evolutions weie bef.-ut the legisiaiuic, uquesti.g the. delegai ion to vote for g nt ra: Jack- on, colonel Dav idson infer uu (I several of his hit nds ot the conversation with me, and that he w;s convinced I would not suppojt gvnl Jackson, ile comn.unicated ihe substance ot this conversation to Ge-.re i!;inson, K-q. the speaker of the In use ed i epi (sen'.aliv es of Kentucky, who concurred with himtlwt 1 CfMiltl ntr consist eii'ly, under any cii cumstanres, vote for gen Jackson. When the same resolutions were be toi o the si naie, (of w hich colonel Davidson was then a member.) he rose in his fiituc and opposed them, and among the views w hich !o: p-escnted to that body, he stated that w the r, tifjlntiov.i they could durw lh- ": i If Af sinn il'rjilrf not indue in? to aband mi ii'h it I conceive d to be nnj dutyy and that he ,( ;cr: crJtiid n ,t concur iviih the mvjority of the letjiftfafure on t hat Mi'ject. John J Crittenden, F.sq. (who was referred to in the circular to my constituents, whose statement has never before bt en exhibited to the public.) testifies that, some time in the fall o! 184, conversing upon the subject ol
tin- then presidential election, and speakimr in
ion of the imlinuss of gen Jackson lor the j icfcrence to your exclusion from the contest,
If there weie, I kno-.t it not. I never made to general Jack n in or to any of his fi ;eids. a rty proposition in relerenec to th.e presidential election, ei' her av regarded the appointment of Mr. Clay or nv other person to office, or the exclusion of Mr. Adam or 3nv other per Son from office. 1 w;h nei'her spoken to bv Mr. Clay, or anv of his friends, ab nit making ny proposition to gen Jacksun, or his frieuds,
presidency, ami toy prefecnce td either ol
the tithcr candidates 1 remembei ed distinctly the conversation 1 had held with Dr. Di ;ke and J -hn J. Crittenden, esq. c theretore retencd to them. In several instances, similar conversations hav c been gince hi ought io my iccollcctioti l.n gentlemen with whom, or m whose piesence they occurred ; and it is from a voluntary and Irienillv communication ol the put port of them, that I am now en ablcd to lay before the public a consitlci able )ortion of the mass of testimony (including that of Dr. Drake) on that pellicular topic, which is now- ptesen ed (sec appendix ) This testimony establishes that, on vai ious occasions and times, beginning in Kentucky as early as about the 1st of Oct 1824, and continued in the chy of Washington, dow n to he period when mv determination to vote for
f Mr. Adams was genetally knownin this city,
1 uniformy expressed my conviction ot gen .Vtekson's want of qualification, and my fixed resolution not to vote for him, if I were call ed upon to give a vote. These sentiments, long cheiished, were deliberately expressed, to gentlemen of the highest respectability, most of them mv perioa! and particular ft iends, in all ot wh-ssc estimation must hav e stood dishonored, il I had voted tor general Jackson, contrary to my declared purpose. This purpose vvao avowed immediately pre ceding my dcpartuie from Kentucky to attend eongi ess, and immediately on my antral here '.iter the termination of the jmirn'. David
Ciimbl?, esq. states that, about the 1st ol
Oct. 1324, he held a conversation with me at Frankfort in Kentucky, on the subject and prospects of the pending election, whir.h he details minutely, and that, in the course of it I said, 41 that I could r.ot, consistently with my principles, vote for gen Jackson, under any possible ci'dimstances.'" I urged to him all the objections which weighed on my mind, and which have been eo oftcd staled.
and to youi being called upon to decide ai d vote between the other candidates who tnisht
be returned to The house of representatives,
you declared that you could not, or that it was impossible tor you to vote for general Jack son in any event. My impression is, that the conversation look place at capt Weisegcis tavein in this town, (Krunkfoit, Ky ) not cry long before you went on to congiess, in ihc lall preceding the last presidential election, oid that the declaration made by you as ibovc slated, was elicited by some intimation that tell r. om me, of my pieference for gen. Jackson over all the other candidates except your sell" So unalterably fixed v7asmy resolution pri or to my departure from Kentucky, 1 have no doubt that, in my promiscuous and unreserved intercourse among my acquaintances in that state, otheis not recclUcted by me, cou d bear testimony to the undeviating and settled determination ol my mind. It wit! be now seen that atter, and immediately on my arrival at the city of Washington, I adhered to this purpose, and pel severed in it until it was executed by the actual deposite of my vote in the ballot box. In a day or two alter I reached the city, c on several other occasions, I had long and un reserved conversations with Mr. Johnston, senator from Louisiana, to an account ol which, as given in his letter in the Appendix, I invite particular attention. The first was on the Saturday or Sunday before the com
mencement of congress, in 1824, and after 1 had seen Mr. Crawford, I stated to Mr. Johnston that, notwithstanding all I had heard, I had no idea of his actual condition, and that it was out of the question to think of making him president. We conversed fully on the respective pretensions of Mr. Adams and gen Jackson, and after drawinga parallel between them, I concluded by expressing a preference for Mr. Adams, which " turned prmci-
tci cuetai llamson to mote lor a commit tc. in t: c st n tc, if ar.y thing occurud to ro-.ke it ?cc s-aty. I rtplicd that I did not thitk any ih hi; hid ttcuntd to require a ecu mittce c n youi part." Mr 15 ui.ri.y, ti e other senator from Louisiana .bet wc th whom and myself a friendly mtimacy has existed t hi oughout our acquaintance, iz.akcr a statement which is woitl yof peculiar iint'n c. II bore to niC the first authentic itiloitf ation which I received of tnc voictd Louisiana, ar d, consequently, of my exclusioi horn the house. And yet, in cur first interview, ir. answer io an inquiry which he made. I told him, without hesitation ihai I should voie for Mr. Adams, in preference to gen. Jackson." fib the s nt secretary of war I had a convcisaiion in ihc early pan of the session of 1824-25. on leturnim: horn a dinner at the Columbian Collt r-, at which we both were in compary with gen. Lafayette and ethers. The dav ot the dinner was on the 15thot Dec. w hich may be verified by a resort to the National Intelligencer. In the course of that conversation, Mr Barbour stJrtcs that he expressed himself, in the event of the contest being narrowed lown to Mr Adams gen. Jackson, in favor of Mr. Adams. &c Mr. Clay e.piess da coincidence ofopiiion" ( To be concluded next weel'.J
State of Indiana. f a Court held Jor the county of Sfiencer, on the 3ih day oj Xtfi ember, 18L'7. Knock lJeiry, and Wi.liam" Heny. adm'is. o Wil , Uicn an apfU Irani liei ly, deceased. ! cation for the vs f)iale of real The heirs and devisees ol LJkiate. William IJcriy. deed. ON motion ot the applicants, and it oppea'intf to the satisfaction of the court thai some of the def ndarts are not inhabitants ot this state It is thereore orderedt That notice of this application be gien by publication in the Wesiem Sun. a public newspaper, piinttd in the town ti Vincennes, tor tour weeks successively, and this cause is continued. A ropy test, JAMES WAKEFIELD, Clk sec. January '29, 1 828. 5 ,-4'-j vo b A A I K y IN 1)1A. A H'AxnicK cousrr WAKHICK CIRCUIT COUR I , &titemhcr Term !827.C John A Grayharn, ndm .-J;ilicaticn for ihc
ot Wni. Giayham, deed sale of the reate
V3.
The heirs of William
Grayham, deceased
tute of ll'm. Gray ham for payment
Jof debts.
U T appearing to the court that some of tho
JL above named defendants arc non-residents It is crderedj That notice of the pendency of this application be given by publication in the Western Sun, a newspaper published at Vincennes, for four wetks in succession, and thereupon this case is continued. A copy test, JOHN A GRAYHAM, Clk w ex. January 29. 1828. 52-4t
Charncr Hawkins, Polly Hawkins, fcc Patscy Hawkins, heirs and legal representatives
oi en iiawKins, deceased: TAXE NOTICE,
THAT I shall annlv to th
next Circuit court to be holden in and for the
county of Daviess, and state of Indiana, for the appointment of Commissioners to divide the real estate of the said Eli Hawkins, deed, amongst his several heirs agreeably to law. RICHARD M ERR ELL, in right of his xyfe Catharine Mcrrell Jormerly Catharine Ifaxvkms, January 26, 1828. 52-4t
