Western Sun & General Advertiser, Volume 18, Number 44, Vincennes, Knox County, 8 December 1827 — Page 1

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election. I expressed the fullest convic. I trensaction, and the guilt or innocence of tion, that General Jackson would give no the persons implicated) than that which assurance as to who would or would not, the present investigation affords. After be anDointcd. and that his frieiidcould all it must be admitted that Dublic ODinion

which may be discharged by the pay- ; l10t sav anv thint? on the subicVtA Mr. , is the greatest arbiter here, and that it is pects that foice to be raised to six hund.

xnent of TWO DOLLARS at the time i Buchanan sutreested that he tluVcijhffcihe i or will ht formed, upon the evidence of red thousand. This is a new triumph for

subject ought to be well considered, that j facts and circumstances before it. 1 have i I liberality and prejudice : the triumph of

Greek Bondsmen. The number of soU diers discip ined in the European fashion is stated at one huudred and fifty thou-

sand, and the Uiand Seignor short. y cx-

of subscription. Payment in advance being the mutual interest of both parties, that mode is solicited. A failure to notify a wish to discontinue at the expiration of the time subr Ml I. nnnoiilnrnrl n now

acnucu tor, wm u wv engagement. No subscriber at liberty to discontinue tinti tall arrearages are paid. Subscribers must pay the postage of their papers sent by mail. Letters by mail to the Editor on business must be paid, or they will not be attended to. Advertisements inserted on the customary termv&rT' Persons sending Advertisements, must specify the number times they wish them inserted, or they will be continued until ordered out, and must be paid for accordingly. From the Sfiarta Review, sparta, 5th Sept. 1827. Sir : I find in your paper of the lsimst. a comment on the matters lately made public by Mr. Buchanan ; and, in behalf of my constituents an inquiry therein made of mc, for 3 whatever 1 may know on that subject. As well on account of the relations existing between the people of this district and " myself thc frequent mention which I

have made during the last two years of

the material facts disclosed by those communications ; as the allusion made to me in that affair by other prints ; I cannot object to the propriety of the inquiry. The names of the persons concerned being already before the public, there remains no consideration of delicacy sufficient to for bid the answer which I make to your call.

In the winter of 182-4-5, alter it was known that Mr. Clay had not received a sufficient number of electoral vo'cs to bring him before the house of representatives, as a candidate for president ; and before I had heard of any indications being given by him, and his friends, of the course which they ultimately took in the election; I met with Mi. Marklcy of Pennsylvania, in the lobby of the II of R. in the morning a little before Hie meeting of the house, we were sitting on a sofa on the right wing from the door. Mr

proaching presidential election, & spoke encouragingly of gen. Jackson's pros

pects of success, to which I very readily assented. Mi. Marklcy. however, pro-

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an answer would be expected. These I

understood to be his apprehensions If nothing was communicated on which Mr. Clay and his friends could reply, that Mr. Adams would have a manifest advantage over General Jackson in the contest ; because it had already been rumored, that if elected, General Jackson would continue Mr. Adams in his (then) present office, and this would be turned to the account of the latter ; on the other hand, the election of Adams would leave the Department of State vacant. And he insisted that the effect of these circumstances ought to be counteracted. That General Jackson ought to be informed of these matters, and mentioned Mr Eaton or myself as most suitable to make the communication to him. I perceived and admitted the effect which these circumstances might have on the event (if such means were to be used and regarded.) I spoke of the supposition of Mr. Adams being continued in the State Department, as wholly unauthorized by General Jackson or any of his friends, so far as I knew. That as to myself, I was so well apprised of the General's determination to remain silent on all subjects calculated to give direction to the progress of the election, till it was over, that I could not with fbdye ty lay the subject before him ; but'said that if he (Mr 13.) tho't it indispensable, to go himself and talk with Jackson ; the same delicacy which would prevent me, did not apply to him. I don't know whether Mr. Buchanan had concluded to go or not, when our conversation was broken nlVby our bein joined with Mr. Clay, who had overtaken us Wc walked together but a short distance after this, till

I took leave and crossed the Avenue in the direction cf my boarding house, (Mr.

Fletcher's) having went beyond the cross . i i i:. .1: .i .i r..... .1... !

sircci, leaning uueeuy uieie num uic Capitol. My opinion of the chsrnrtcr oF the- answer which General Jackson would i;-! veto such a communication if made to hiiri. was formed from an acquaintance v. UU th; man, and his conduct Uui in; the canvass. And I felt willing or rather yielded, that Mr. Buchanan who was then, and has ever since been his friend and efficient sup porter, should satify himself of the General's course by a conversation with him ; and I had little cutiosity to know what the result of it was ; nor has one word pasr.cd between Mr. Buchanan & myself about it

1 from that day to this that I now remember.

no reason to distiust; nor the inclination, European discipline in Turkey will en-

much less the ability, to do so. : able the Sultan Mali mood to prop his colI have said, that in the conversation JaPsinS ters ol lhe Seraglio, and again with Mr. Markley, I spoke of my own llf UP 44 thc odommaiion that makch dt: high regard for Mr. Clay, and I now say ate over lhc r,ow beleaguered ci.cuit that I did so with entire sincerity. True, oi thc Athenian Acrcpolis. But though. I was the personal and political friend of human efforts may delay, they will not, General Jackson, and Ind throughout the fannot "Ornately defeat the progies of canvass, if not efficiently at least heartily, H led'ge. Th.e revolutions we daily supported his e!ection,yet it was known to W1'ness allest lhls n voice of thunder, many of my acquaintances, both in Ten- r 1 hc gieat cncle of improvement must nessee and at Washington, that (at least f,n.a,,y be complete The sun w.,icn down to thc period of that conversation,) ?hincs al L,sbor shine, in turn, at Canext to General Jackson. I should have lro and tati.boul. We may disarm tho

preferred Mr Clay for thc Presidency. march 01 nnghiy events. II fcuiope do

lhe mortifying change which my opinion of that gentleman soon after underwent, may be of another avail than to teach mc how much I had misundrstood him J. C. ISACKS.

From the Scioto Gazette, " North Bend, Aov. 4, 1027.

not quick. y interpose, the scimuar of tho ruihicss Ottoman will again be t,ath d in the choicest blood ot Giecie Russia has been completely loued in her attach on Persia. The proud hopes ot the Northern Autocrat of scattering the green turband squadrons of I aflis, at it.c fi.t charge of the Georgian cavalry and ope

ning the road tor her Calmucks and Cos-

A day or two before the nomination saclcs to the feeart nt Pria. 1,.. i,,f

of Mr. Clay to thc office of Secietary of fled for the present, and thus ends tho State was acted on by the Senate, I was march to India ot the Northern Colossus requested by that gentleman to move for But her long indulged day dream, of a committee of inquiry into his conduct, planting the 1 ross of the t zars on tho in relation to the then recent election of Ciescent-crowned domes ol toi.suuunoI rcsident,if any thing should occur in my pie, appeals on the eve of accomp.ishopinion to make it necessary. Mi Clay ment. According to a letter ftom Porepcated thc application on the day that land, great activity is employed in fitting thc nomination was taken up by the Sen- out the Russian fleet in the Black Sea a ate with great earnestness, and obtained measure regatded as an indispi nsablo my promise that I would comply with his preliminary lo a war with the Porte request. From the position which I oc- ; hese preparations we are told.wer copied in thc Senate Chamber, being hitherto disregarded by the Divan, besomewhat in the rear of that of Mr. cause they were confined in thc establishB.anch, I did not distinctly hear the great- ment of a mihtaiy force on the Danube. er part of his speech in opposition to the But as soon as oiders were sent to equip appointment Fear ing that I might have a fleet on the Black Sea, the intentions of misunderstood him, and not wnhiner to re- Nicholas strmH reveA anri

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vn judgment, in a mat- J sidered as desirous of commencing a war her was so materially j in which the destinies of the world micht

Mr. Lloyd, of.be involved. Without a fleet

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j.Ut,6 who sat near to and directly in front j shores of the Black Sea, a Russian army, J Ntr. ar. h, to know whether, in his o- advancing into Walachia might be cut fT, piiMon. ny thing h:vd been said by Mr B. j by landinc in its rear: wheitas.il the

. ;.:c,!i vf.id tender it proper to move for Russian fleet commanded the sea, ihe arun inquiry. Mr. Lloyd answered, that no-! my may proceed without danger Notthine irA fnllrn frnm I r R ivhirh tvrtiiM ...!.U. i: .

...w. ..wuiu viuiMaiiuiijg ini3 menacing appearance. make a motion of thc kind necessary ; and we do not think nor have we evet thought, the same opinion was e pressed to me by : that the fnll nf Dihman't th k

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I therefore

cecded further, and with more than ordi

narv interest and earnestness, (as I thof) I was however told a low days alter in very

insisted that gen. Jackson, il elected, ! gcncial terms, by Thomas Claiborne, Esq ought to appoint Mr. Clay secretary ot formerly a member ol Congress Irom this state, and U'gcd tome thc necessity of state, and then at Washington, thai Mr. having the thi:g so understood ; ard said j Buchanan had informed the GenfvaKjf that he wished me to sec Mr. Faton about j some intriguing that was going on,Hw

it. Ill answer to that, I spoke of my own high regard for Mr. Clay ; but 1 told him that as from gen. Jackson I could say nothing I did not know what his intentions were in the contingency mentioned, and consequently had no authority to communicate any thing. My object was to let the matter presented by this part of the conversation rest just where I found it ; ami that the proposition mads, should neither become of more or less weight from any thing I might say, for I knew nothing that would enable me to incline it either way ; and I sought to be o understood. Here the conversation ended The words Used in it, I have not attempted to give, but their import is what I have stated After the adjournment of the house or. the same dav, 1 met with Mr Buchanan, of Pennsylvania, on the way to oui lodgings, about where wc passed thc enclo sure that'surrounds the capitol ; wc walked together ab ut half a mile, taking the pavement on the west side of thc Pa. Avenue. The points on which our conversation turned, I will relate as I now recollect them. Upon our fallinc: !n toe-

that as fa as he could learn hc had put an

end to it. r rom which 1 took it lor granted that the conversation had taken place and resulted as 1 anticipated. This is thc only definite overture coming within my knowledge, connected with the Presidential election, while it was pending before the House of Representatives ; and those arc the material facts in regard to the manner of its communication to which 1 was privy. Thc conversations, which I have now given, both with Mr. Markley and Mr. Buchanan and thc remarks which follow the letter, is a literal extract from a correct copy of a letter written by me to a fiiend, on thc 10th of August last, in answer to one received from him on the subject. Since then, I have read Mr. Buc-

gae up the idea of moving for a,Wnvestigation The speech of Mr. BTjh, which Was published by himselfon)e time ago, is, I have no doubt, as correct a

statement as he could make of w hat he delivered to the Senate. But I must confess that, even at this time, I can see nothing in it which would have induced mc to have adopted a diflcrent course. It appears to me, that I should have neither consulted the public interest, nor the honor ol Mr. Clay, in calling for an inquiry, when the accuser if accuser he can be called declared that he had no proof to offer, but what each member of the Senate, and every one else, possessed. "On the day that the nomination was acted on by thc Senate, or on the succeeding one, I informed Mr. Clay that nothing had passed in the Senate which made it necessary to move for thc investigation which he solicited. Thc assertion ol the fact by Mr. Branch, is sufficient evicknee to me, that several of the Senators whavfS

ted with him against Mr. Clay's appornt-

ment, were governed by the same motives and feelings towards that gentleman which actuates him. Such was not the case, however, in relation to his colleague

For soon after the vote had been taken,

Mr Macon annroached mc. and ohserv

hanans letter of the Sth of the same ? ed, that he had not been influenced in op month, m which I find that he is able sat- i posing Mr. Clay's appointment, by any di isfactonly himself, to fix the date of his , minution of his confidence in his intern

conversation with General Jackson, on the tv, but solelv on the remind of the lati-

30th December, 1824, from certain data. tudc of construction which he had tfiven I have none that enables mc k state the to the Constitution. Believing that it was precise time : except k.r the (tftes i efer- the intention ct Mr. Macon that I should

jcu to by Mr Buchanan; which I pre

communicate this observation to Mr.

t i t. , i ' . r ---- - t vu.iiiiiuiih.uiu nils uusci vaiiuu iu mi. ther, Mr Buchanan let me know that ?;imc are correct, 1 should hav e thought it ClaV, and knowing the pleasure that it Mr. Marklcy had been talking with him, might have been a week or two later ; but would give to the latter to find that he Mill and pressed him tor information on the couid not, from memory, have fixed upon possessed the esteem of his old friend and

r- subject of the cabinet appointments, in the

jevent of General Jackson s election. I " .soon discovered from Mr. Buchanan's conversation, that the proposition to him had been varied from that made to mc in the morning, at least presented in another view Thc information which seemed to be sought through Buchanan was an assurance to be relied on, that Mr. Adams would not be continued in the State Department. We talked about these propositions, and their probable bearing on the

associate, I did not fail to mention this also

lo Mr. Clay. W H HARRISON "

the exact time with certainty

1 will only add that when Mr. Clay asked for an investigation of his conduct upon

trie matters contained in .Air Kremer's From the British Traveller rf Sefitrmrbrr 3.

letter, at an cany period ot tne ueDnte, I Yc arc on the eve of a irreat cr sis

made some general remarks in 'avor of it, Scenes of intense and magnificent interand voted for the proposition, both gencr- est are about to be enacted in the cast. ally, 5c with special instructions through- It appears, from the latest advices, that

jut. I wished thc affair then to have been Turkry is awakening from her sleep of a taken up and traced to its origin, by a ges, and making the moat formidable cx scrutiny more likely to be effected, in dis- ertions to repel thc hostile acercssions o

closing thc cxtont and character of tho Russia, and to retain her hold of her

that the fall of OthmanS thrnnp win h

so easily accomplished as some piesume. Turkey will perish with the convulsive throes of a dying giant Her undisciplined Spahis, Delhis, and Sbockdars, will

be driven back by the more regular charge of the Russian cavalry, but not

without reiterated resistance. Like iho retreating Greeks around the body of Pa-

troculus, their retreat will be a protracted

deleat ; step after sten. stnnt of arnmr

and spoils till at last the dismembeied and naked carcase will be flung into tho

last trench ol the Mussulman empire. The time is past since the Islamism poured her whitening turbans, like sea foam, around the mightiest capitals of Christian

burope ; and when her ferocious sons beheld the Caliph leader urge hi horse into the sea, and lifting up his hand to heaven, invoking the Prophet to witness, " that nature, and nature only, resisted the further propagation ol his laws " The time for such burning zeal has long past But who can tell whether it may not be again re-kindled by collision with the rival bigotry of Russia ? To our view, there aro still materials in the Mussulman creed, for creating an enthusiasm, equal in character, and perhaps in degree, to that which enabled the Saracens to resist and baffle the shckot Europe's most warlike chivalry, with Et gland's lion heart at ita head, piecipitated on the shoies of Palestine. We are on the eve. as wc began with saying, of a tremendous cris's ; and time only can decide whether the consequences of the new vial of military desolation, which is about to be poured out, will be pregnant with evil or redundant with good Thc New York 1 qnirer says, that tho venerable Colonel Butler put ihe first vote in the ballot box on ihe opening of tho polls of the Seventh ward, and made tho following speech to his fellow citizens : I am a very old man, fellow citizens. You have known me too long to supposo me capable of deceiving you I desire to say to you that the man who has p?ssed through thc wars of our first and second peril, cannot be capable of plotting mischief against the republic ; nor can tho man who has exposed his person, and pledged hit property io ths hour of din-