Western Sun & General Advertiser, Volume 18, Number 43, Vincennes, Knox County, 1 December 1827 — Page 1
BY ELIIIU STOUT.
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Frcvi the i)c"iocraic Fra. ro r.7E ri'RLic Mr Huchanin, Mr. Isacks, and nuj Latcn, li?.vc thought proper to bring my name before the public, as that of a person implicated, or in some way concerned, in an attempt to induce gen Jackson to give a certain pledge, or pledges, as to a certain appointment it would be his duty to make in the event of his election as President of the C S -One consequence of the publications of these gentlemen has been, that they have riven rise to a torrent of abuse and ca lumny, which has been directed against me. It is not, however, for the purpose of averting this polluted stream, or of noticing those who have cast into it their mite of slander, that I sit down My object is of a higher uatuic ; a desire to do myself justice, and, so lar as my best recollection and judgment shall permit, to spread the truth, and the whole truth, be fore my fellow citizens. I do not hope, by any thing I can say, however satisfac tory and conclusive, to propitiate any of my enemies, personal or political ; nor shall I for thai, or any other purpose, turn from a full and lair examination of such parts of the letters of the gentlemen w ho have imposed upon me this unpleasant dmy. As relates to myself, I could have wished to have been spared this appeal.
but it is no matter of choice. I might
have been persuaded to permit the cnors and inaccuracies of Mr, Buchanan and Mr Isacks, arising trom a want of rccolicclion, to ptss unnoticed ; and, horn a desire to be at peace, I might even have been content to overlook th.ir unkind ness; but, when Major Laten, on their showing, presumes to cad me M he negotiator," i what he represents to be a corrupt transaction, t am imperatively bound to speak, and l will spook 'hit which I do know to be tue. Let the blame and condemnation fall where it ought ; where it ? inrrilr(l. hut not nn mo.
If these were not unlives sufucietnly poweiful, there is another which would
determine me An effort is making, by the use, and the abuse, of my name, to wound the charae'et s of some of our ablest and m:ht exalted citizen", and bv accusation which I he'ie to be unfounded, and in which, I am oei lain, I hoi e no pat t, to sink then public estimation ; to at them clown Irom the hcigh's which thev have hiioablv attained, and m their pla ccs to put those whom I legard es having ad ipted principles, k ax owed a deli mi at ion to pn sue a com so of poie j , which I have no doubt wonid gieatlv alloc t the p'o -pm tty and h mptness u( Pennsylvania, an 1 of the whole Union That I wis migmally friendly lo the e Icrtion of gen. Jacks m to the Pic.ddomv. I do not deny My feeli gs of gatiude towards him for his military services t his country remain, and ever shall tcnuin unchanged. I voted for him in the democratic caucus of ISM As a iepieentativc of Pennsylvania, I suhseqnento- -t only give Mm my vote, but used tnv h t exertions, by every fair and hmmtal Y means to promote his election to the Pi e v.dential chair The united i's rtion his friends having failed to effect his election. I was not one of those who felt it a duty, or thought it proper, immediately to unfurl the standard of opposition with ...out knowing the principles and t he policy of the men who were to be called to as 4 sist in administering the government of the Union: because 1 had been defeated, by a constitutional majority of the states, in my desire to have gen. Jackson elect, ed, it did not seem to me that I was call
ed upen to resist, embarrass k overthrow ; particular benefit cn his country, and that the administration, whether it should be he could see nothing wrong in it Mr. right or wrong. I thought it my duly as Buchanan urged me to use no delay in a representative of the people, and as a seeing Mr. Clay. I told him i would, k citizen, patiently to wait and sec what accordingly called upon Mr. t lay at his would be the genetal characicr of Mr. A- , boarding house, I think the evening atter dams's administration, and what would be j this convci sation, but he was not at his the complexion of his cabinet. j lodgings. I called to sec him again, but When I ascertained that he had taken ' "c had some of his friends with him, and to his aid such able and experienced ad- 1 opportunity ot conversing with risers as Mr. Ciay, Mr Rush, Mr. Sou- : huM nor had i ever any convci sation with tbard, and Mr. Harbour, men identified ; bim until the evening of ihc luthor Hih with the republican institutions of our of Jjmtary prior to my leaving Washingcountry, in peace and in war; men who lon ,or Pennsylvania lo attend the couits had enjoved the confidence ot the tepub , ,n Montgomery county. 1 he convertlican administrations of Mr. JetTetson, : t,nl 1 cii had ,lim ua ut vr,7 Mr Madison, Mr. Monroe; men who gencial charactct ; no mention wpsnwoie had lonr acted, k were incorpot aicd with, i r cabinet appointments, and I did not usthe meat democratic lamily of the Union, ! certain which ol the candidaits Mr Clay I did notkcl mvsdf at liberty to doubt ; u'ouM support. I hav e t.o rccoikctu n ot
what would be the character and podev t a" UIM,S -imij s-m s.. i. v Mr. Adams's administration I ccmsid- , Wlth Mr. Puchan.vi a'n. t in; ti iu.es t
eMr. Clay moving in cv-.n :t at tb.e t .ec-
eted t!at in tliesc appointments a pledge was given to il e nation, that die iiyiicy wiiichhil been puisucd under toim'er administrations, wouid be puis.ued under the preie;l. I dele mine d thci elm c, ; hat a representative ol the pc plc, and. as one ol the people. I would not permit my partialitics, my disappointments, or my p ej udicc, to c;et th.c b.ctter vi my judg ment anvl pa'.rioiism, but tlta; I would judge the administration by its measures, if a continued to support k sustain those
thai scstaiird a system wirich promotes j
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wc both expressed an -mi. ;s, ho;
iccollcct that
that
the west would not sej aiate hem Pe:nsylviinia. I have no iecdv:iuon v. h uevcr of having ut r.ed Mr Ik to ; ec Genera! J.o ks- r, ;dt!HO!:;h I Ci'intuu d in the propiiety c f hi1- snt;ncstion tc. ;t he should call to see him: nor '.we I the faimcst reroMectioo of a!H ihiug being said r.bout fihtinir Mr. Ai'ams'., liicnds with their own weapons. it any j-jich expressions were u;ed, I am
nnionat hrospcritv, American m.umfac- ' icnam u wasnomy toe. i ;omi,,c lures, Lucrual improvements, and com-! recollection I have ol the convci -mm,, mcrce; and l-cherish peace, and admin- ; Jvhlch Mr- liuehanan ha-, leletoca , m !.h istcrthc rovemment with adueteoMd to ! 'Cttcr to the public, ol the Sihol A l ecouomvVi' should u ceive im coidial 1 . vimpresv,! aio, ihatlhc loect and hearty suppoit. ( ()i 1 Msiubat evciung v as m mge the
. I pi-, in a o iov eeir.:' on.t.o.n, jiium I i i.:.' :; .....
of his identilviovr himseU with Pvtuisvb
The latter end ol December, 1?:
belicvo, but cannot with ahiolmc emt.iin ty say, it wasonthe ,50th, my fru nd, Mr. l.iuc.hatia.n. called to see me in tl.c eetc ;g at tnv boa' vUng-house. I hairpcnc.jhybc ahuic in my room: he sat witli ;ne a cri sidcfable length d"ttme ; uu convcrS.on tU'ued, pnecipaUy, -n the then pending P esidemial electinn Mr. ! r.oo menced, by slating tli.it he felt gteat s !i eitmlc lor (he election ol gen. Ja. k "o, and that his frieiv.ki shouhl iitrcvcn '. ..
vimia in support of Genera! Jackson. I emcitaitud no doubt that Mr. Ilm. h.o.an w ,r, honest b k vcrndnd tu it no em titns on his part should, he vanun;r, and that he felt erniirhent he could speak with ee.iam-
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orah c meiu. to promote it ; to w ou , .. , ll:t,;4 ,U)lu 0,!;,l;m.ti u ith lui: in n. plied, that i be.uy muteu w r h mm m o- j ;x ,n l!iat iv.v.hi wmfd pr-fer Mr pinion. Mr huenaoao .idvo.ud to ihc ; ( s ap;.(!ml!!t; rt U (!l,u (i, :.ny mhri rumors wlach wcic that t ie ue; - ..,-, i i r t , , , .. ... , ,1 s-n oev t eu. oi hiate, and horn me ol Ailams were holding out ike ide met j , , ..; . . f , ,,. , ,v ,,, , , . o.,c i,.. , uit v v i.v.rol was uiukr lo
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would probabtv be eflVred the sitla;.i?n ot Sccteuirv ef State, and that in eac (ienl.
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continue Mr. Adam Seerc.taiy of State. r,,MVr,.. .,;i5t o.ho.n.ilK- m, i
I to.d Mr. he.cnanan I leoo.tht suen a i e- :,H t.. n L ic .
port was calculated to do theG,neral a . Uuxv tr ot. ihc fUh r.i Aucusi
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land mcotiotied fuitlier, that tlure was great plausibility in such reporib, at tl j their receiving credo, particularly that j which represented General Jackpot; as i having dctei ndned. if he shou'd be elect.j ed, that he would continue Mr Adams j Sccie etvol Slate, iuaronuch :o MY, Adj cms hid been one of ins ;do st ddwbn.s j ami av.vocatcs m his report susi.unuig gotr 1 Jackson ag,insi eh uges w id.eh wme preietrevl against him lor his conduct in rcla- ! t ton to ti;c Seminole war.
! oir Unchanan stated that he had writj ten to, or iceeived a letter from a mutual i iticud of curs in Pennsvlv ansa, on the sv.b ject of the Presidential election, and cab
P was a conversation of rather a
genetal eoul promiscuous character, in which we both participated. Il is upwards ol two years since that conversation took p!ar", and considering it of a private end :o..lih utial character, I made no mi nine ol it, hoi dud I ever expect it would have been given lo lire public. It is somewhat torn: kr.hlo ihct two years ?nd more should have elapsed, Mr. Huchanan and m sell boarding together at the same bouse liming the two last sessions ol Con. gress, during which peiiod wc had many conversations on the subject of the Presidential election,; s well as on public and piiu.te m.c.tci.s, yet, not onee, in all that time, did iry Iriend Mr. lJuchanan ever advcii to tic convci sation which ho has
! met appouKCtents andtht he had deter i teeeiCly tliought himself called upon to , to:;. cu to r ill um ti the Cieneral hin.self, j give as having taken place between us , or loget Maio; i.totn to mention to him j I eannoi avoid thtnk'mg it somewhat ; the icporis that were in circulation, and 1 sdngulai that Mr Ik shf)iild hav e been so ; otam, it he eouhl, a co ttadierhni, of ! i esct ed touards me, particularly as DulV j ihini. Mr. i al r.sUed if 1 had seen 1 Green had been furnished with a slateI Mr Ciry, and whether I fail had any con- 1 ment in October, 1 U-f, of what luul passed j vcrsatirn villi him tcmch'mg ihc Prcti- ' belwren General Jackson and himselfand
ti ntiai election I icpliedthal I b.ad seen that a si.ocmenl bail also been furnished him in the lloiuc. but had no eo;uera : to him cy Major bkiton in August 1826, Imn willi lum on thai vubj-.-ct, but vai ! I as to the urpoi t f the conversation bev.is anxi.msto get an oppoi Umiiy to have tw een hinueif and Mr. Huchanan. That a convcisatimi w ith him, as I felt a great these mm ements should have taken place
I anxiety that he should vote v ilh Petu.svl- and thnt there should have been no eon
vatua. Mr. liuchanan icplicd that no o,-,e cert impropcily to drag me into this busi Ult more anxious, lor vat im; rcas ns, ness, aid et, that under all these circumthan he di.l uioisco' ; that it was import- stances, Mr. Ik should have been silent to-
j am, not only ,;s il regarded 'be so. cess td' wards me, and that he should ihink propi G,i:e!a: Ja, :-,ids election th;-t Mr. Clay er introduce lo the pubic a detailed
V ' v. nh Pennsylv ania but on :u - eonvcrsatim, in which he makes me say d h; ultcior p ri:ical p'ospecis: all and himself little or nothing a condeclaim.; that he (Mi. 11.) hoped one hiv rersati on totally unnecessary lor the pur to s ., - .;( , t'iay President of the United pose of sustaining sn imliv idual actini;, as Smu s, k lc...t was another reason why he he protests he alw ays acied, on his own should like to see him Seeict.uy of State, authoihy does to me, and probably will m case General Jackson was elected ; k to Ihc public, seem somewhat unaccount that if he was certain that Mr. Clay's able it gives me pain to think of these views were favotable to General Jack- things, especially as having emanated son's election, he would take anopportu ftom a person to w hom I feel obligations nity of talking to the General on the sub- of fiiet.dship for acts of kindness, and in ject, or get Mr V. iton to do so; that he whose ftictuLhip I reposed the most unthought by doing so ho would confer a limited confidence.
The succeeding morning after the conversation with Mr. Huchanan, I met with Mi. Isacks of Tennessee, in the Hall of the House ot Hepi escntatives My iccollection does not enable me to stale w hether it was at his scat, or in the lobby, or on the sofa, al the lighi hand as you go into the door I may be permitted to remark, that Mr. Isacks being a native ol Montgomery count), (Pa.) the distiict 1 repicsttoed in Congress, he early sought my acqiuintat ee in the session ol 1 823 and I 824 and had many convet sations with n(e ol a private character, in relation to hin sell, and in which I took an inter tat, am! to tin best tit ii, v abidt) and oppm tunnies tai lit u ly served him. These couvt rsations necv asari y produced an intimacy and h endship which frequently 1 tought us togcth- ( i , and even into the habi: ot tiee tnendI) and um c set ved com ci sation. 1 ht conversation which he rcpicscnts to have la Vn place between us is incorrectly tc poind: lie assui c tiy ndsa p! t he i ele d or roue!, mis, resents nc Fronr the gencia: tenor ol his statement, this hovvtver d .c t ct appear singulai. He seen , I; i tn h::, narrative, to have paid moic ic-,-.!. I :o oio relative positions, at tht sweiul m .ctit.gs, to which lie has ic'cn inc, tboa lev cn the substance ol what p:-sid between us. reiving upon the re c "i ctioii oi Mi . Huchanan as to dates. Tha' there was a e.nvet sation betvvten M 1-acka and n y;cll. on the subject of the Pesid ntiai t. Union, the moi i-ing after Mr II. l ad ea'ih d lo sre liiC, I piUcly well remember, and 1 have no doubt that in the coo; .e ot tiiat concf,a'ton wc agreed that Cieneral Jackson's pi ospt ct ot t lection were, laii : m lact we both cxpir-scd ourselves anxious lor hissucciss I distinct i tecoiicct Mi. Isaeks remarking, that much would depend on the course Mr Clay's li lends would take, and exptessiog his be lie I ihallluy would act with ii". I icplicd that I sincerely (toped llu y v on hi go with Pehns) A anus and 'hat in the e cut td General J.u kson'b t Icelion, 1 lelt coidldent that nothing would bo moic gralitying to Pennsylvania ihan to vve Mr Clay appointed 5erreiai of Stale. Mr. Isacks rcpliid that he was his : err iit! choice for President ; that ho would no hii lirst chidcc.il Gt.netalJ.ckroii was elected, lo be appointed Secrttary oi State, and that he had frequent iv expressed himself to that i ffect 1 h omo recollceiion of having said to Mr Is.icks that I vishd to see Mr. Eaton nor did I, with more than ordinary intetcsf and earnestin ss, insist that General Jackson, if elecied, ought to appoint Mr. Clay. It must be appjicnt that bcfoic I or any one could have used the sirong language imputed to m, that it was it. dispensable that it sh uld be disiinctly understood that Mr Isai ks was authoi ired, by (ieneral Jackson, to receive piopositions to promote his election Ol this I h'id n- evidence, nor cutcrtairn d any opinion, nor did I at any time, or to at y one, use the strong language imputed to mc by Mr. Isacks. I well remember th t, at that time wc both be lit ved,a d expicsscd our belief, that if Gencial Ja- k n was elecied, and he could not be t leetcd without the aid of Mr. Clay and Lisfticnds, that he would be appointed Secretary of State Further, Mr. Isacks declaitd his belief, in which I concurred, that a largo portion of the western delegation, from the unreserved conversation wc had on the subject, wished Mr. Clay o be Secrclaiy ol State, in which desire they were joined by a large portion of the delegation fiom other states fiici.dly to Gen Jacksn's ! election. It is indeed a well known fact,
that amongst the hitnds oi all tin tut.didates, here was mm h speculation on the subject, much was said unreservedly and with much zeal and good humor, n the subject o cabinet appoitunien s; hat if this, or that, candidate succeeded to the Presidency, the gcnnal voice was raised in favor of, and the general cc always fixed upon, that distinguished statesman and inflexible republican, Henry Clay, aa the first officer ot 'he government; and I now sincerely believe that which ever of the candidates had been elected, ho would have had the fiei of the most prominent situation in he cabinet, that which he now holds under Mr Adams It ha? repeatedly been stated that I was the agent, or as Major fcaton is pleased to say, the negotiator" of Mr. Clay, authoiizcd to nuke propositions, or ask a pledge of a conditional character, fo ihc vote ol Mr. Clv and his friends I do solemnly and positively dcclje, that the charge and insinuation arc void of truth. I never did. thcr dircctlv or indirectly, receive from Mr. Clay or bis friends, any intimation which could be construed eveo
