Western Sun, Volume 3, Number 3, Vincennes, Knox County, 30 December 1809 — Page 2

the U. States, In the event of Ms msje fly's orders in council being withdrawn. In thefe fctuiments and opinions you comurred, as I collcClcd from the tenor of fever-l conversions which 1 held with you At this period. With rrfpect to the fecond point, as fta ted in your letter to be contained in a defpatch from mr, Ginning,' I beg leave to offer the following explanation : In the courfc of a private interview I had with mr. Gallatin (the fecretary of the treafury) intimated that the non intercourfe law Tvhich was then likely to be palled by the congrefs, might be confidered as removing two very important grounds of difference with Great Britain, viz. the non.importation ad, as applicable to her alone, and alfo the prefident's proclamation, whereby the flitps of G. Britain were excluded from the ports of the U. States : while thofe of F. "were permitted to enterbut that by the non-intercourfe law, both powers were pla. ced on the fame footing. He did not pretend to fay that this meafure had been taken from any motives of concefiion to Great Britain ; but as, in facl, thofe conftquences followed, he conceived they might be confidered as removing the two great obiUcles to conciliation. He adverted alfo to the probability of an adjuftment of another important point in difpute between the two countties, as he faid he knew that it was intended by the United States to abandon the attempt to carry on the trade with the colonies of belligerents in time of war, which was allowed in time of peace, and to.truft to the being permitted by the French to carry or. fuch trade in peace, fo as to entitle them to a continuance of it in time of war. As it truy be very material to afeerfain tUi l tnde with the colonies or belligerents' was, in my conception, meant by mr. Gallatin, as intended to be abandoned by the United States, I feel no hefitation in declaring, that 1 fuppofrd he alluded to the trade from the colonies of belligerents direct to their mother country, or to the ports of other belligerents, becaulc the right to furh trade had been the point in difpute ; -whereas the right to carry on a trade from the colonies or belligerents to the United States had nrver been called in qurllion, ind had been recognized by his majefty's fupreme caurt of admiralty ; and the terms even upon which fuch colonial produce miht hr re exported from the U. States niht br f irml'y arranged in a treaty figned in London by the muufters plenipotcnti. aryof bith countries, which was not indeed ratified Oy the prcfiJcnt of the U. State? ;

but wis not ohj-crd to as to that article of it which ft-ttlrd the trims' upon which furh trde ws to hr p-unitted. Sin h was the fuMtatice, Gr of the unofficial converfitions which I had hrld with mr. Madifon, mr. Gallatin and youtlVlf, which I did not conlidcr or reprefi-nt to his maj-Oy's government as iutendrd with any othrr virw thin to endeavor to bring about the--pral of the orders in council by fhrwing that many of the obOailes which had (V o l in the way of an amicable adjuftment of thr differences between the two countries were already removed, and that a fair profp-dl exiitrd nf fettling what remained ; fince the United States had exhibited a determination to rrfift the unjnfl agyrdi mis upon her nrulr! tights, which iv 4$ "U tint Grrat Britain had ever rtquired ; but 1 certainly never -receivrd toy ffurancrs from Use Ameiirn Government that thry would plrde themieUrs to adopt the conditions fo-nhrd in mr. (-Mutiny's inUruCtions as pirlimit arirS ; nor d el I rver liold out fu h rxpeel aliens to his tnaj Oy's government ha u g alw.4s fttrd 1 1 thrm that in the eei;t of Ins m-j fty's thiiikii-g it juil or expedient to cauft thr orders in coutud to he withdrawn that the p-rfiJent Vi- u'J tke off th.e rirbar;o as rrip' -rd leaving it in operation -u ; i t Franve, and the powers which adop(t' or a. d tu.drr hrr drrree; : according to thr

j'j'J orr.v w ith wa vrfiH in him at that tim- c-p,:T-fs f the U. 5tafs, aid aI thr re was tvrry rrfr,n to rXp"Ct that a f 4U f flory arraruif nt n:ht lie made in in Ur i)ii:i!!of the (o! nul trade vh"h h ?! i r-ii ft long in dil ute between the t . - t 'vl 1 1 i r $ . . o the thir l condition refrrrrd to by 0 VfiU, tRd i rn-. (Ijoiimu's mi? f u it ions J h-- t rr:n-iK t' . t I nrrr h!d

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prefented to my confideration in mr. Cannings difpatch to mc of the 23d January, in which that idea is luggelled, and is flatedto have been aflented to by mr. Pinckney. It would be unavailing at the prefent moment, to enter upon the examination of the pretenfions fet forth in mrCannings inOru&ions (which you are pleafed to term) extraordinary. " I confider it however to be my duty to declare that during my negaciation with you which led to the conclufion of the provifional agreement, 1 found no reafon to believe Uiat any difficulty would occur in the accomplifhment of the two former conditions, as far as it was in the power of the prefident of the U. States to accede to the fir II, and confidently -with the explanation 1 have before given of the fecond point ; on the con trary I received affurances thro' you, that the prefident would comply as far as was in his power with the firfl con dition, and that there could be no doubt that the congrefs would think it incumbent on them to infert the rights of ihe U. States againtt fuch powers as Ihould adopt or aft under the decrees of France, as foon as their a&ual condudl or determinations upon that iubjedl could be afcertained but that in the mean time, the

prefident had not the power, and could not undertake to pledge himfelf in the former manner required to that effect. I received alfo afTurances from you, that no doubt could be reafonably entertained that a fatislaftory arrangement might be made in a treaty on thefubjedt of the fecond condiiion mentioned in mr. Can

ning's infiructions according to my explanation ofitinthe foregoing part of this letter, but tlut it necellarily would foi m an article of a treaty in which the various pretenfions df the two countries Ihould be fettled. The third condition, you certainly, very dillindly informed me could not be re cognized by the prefident, bur

j you added, ith gre.it weight

in my mind, that ) ou did not know why ?ny great importance Ihould be attached to fuch a recommion, becaufe it wjs impolfible thar a citizen of the U. Urates could prefer a complaint to hi government on account ot the capture of his vellcl while engaged in a

trade abfolutely interdicted by he law of his country. Under thele circumfiances, therefore, finding that 1 could not obtain the recognitions Ipecified in mr. Canning's defpatchof the 23d lanuary which formed but one part ot his infi ructions to mc, in the formal manner required, 1 confidered that it would be in vain to lay before the government or the United Stares the difpatch in queftion, which I was at liberty to have done in extenfo, had 1 thot' properBut 4s 1 had fuch Urong giounds lor believing that the object: of his majelty'sgo vet nment could be attained, though in a different manner, and the fpirit at lead of my feveral letters of inllructions be -fully complied with, I felt a -.thorough conviction upon my mind that I ..(hbuld.be acting in conformity with his majt flys w ilhes ; and accordingly c oncluded to lite provifional agreement on his ma jetty's behalf with the government of the U. States. t he difavowal bytiis mamajelly is a painful proof to me that L had formed an er roneous judgment of his ma jelly's, views, and of the intention of mv inflructions ; and I have mod fevetely to lament that an act of mine; though unintentionally fhould produce any embarraHmcnis in the relations between the

two counti lcs. It is a great confutation to me, however, to perceive that mealures have been adopted by both governments to pre vent any lefies, and to obvi. ate and inconveniences which might have arifen to the ciii zens or lubjects of either coun try from a reliance on the fulfilment of that provifional

'agreement ; and f cannoubut

chei dh a hope, that a com plete a cordial undemanding between the two countries may be effected. L beg leave to add that it would have given me greai

ihappinefs to have contributed

to fo delii able an object, an 1 to offer you ihe affurances o

the great refpeft, and high

conhaeration, with which I : remain, fir your moil obedient and humble fcrvant. ! D. M. lirskine. j The hon. H. Smith, Sec. Sec.

( 1 o be continued. j From our Corrcsfwr:t!cnt. llisbitiyttony Xuv. 29. The reading the document accompanv ing the pr elident's

meliage, occupied the whole of to day. They are very I voluminous, and contain mat

ter of confideraWe intcrcfi. --They confill principally ot the correfpondence between mr. mith and mr. Jackfon, both of whom appear to have written at great length and andfreedom, That part of ihe documents which relates to our relations with Trance, is very limited and contains noching new. It authorifes no expectation of any change in the policy of IJonaparUv He has laid down his fyltern with regard te neutrality ; and no remonfirances or importunities from, us, will tutn him from the inflexible purpoie of involving us in a war with England. It would be ti uitlefs to attempt an analysis of thele papers. fliatl hovveveri forward them to you for publication entire, as they Ulue fi om the prefs here, Smith's letter of infiructi., ons to mr. Pinckney, on the fubjedl of Jackfons dilmiflal, is an animated and forcible production. In another da cument, he treats will? great warmth and fe v erTt y , m v. jackfen 's letter to the con1 ...... k fuls, which he terms ' an appeal to the people of. America. " : Mr. jackfon, in one of his letters to the fecretary of fi ate, complains of the (Iricturesof the news papers, which the fecretary rebuts by remarking on the licentioufhefs of the Knglilh prefs. Nothing of interell is expected to, come before congrels for fome days to come Self's PhiL Gaz.

In the General Court Itidiand Territory. Ettirnnc Tromblc's adminiftrator of Jofcph Lamottc, deccafed, vs. Klie Williams, furviving partner of Elliott and Williams. Tres. Case. WHEREAS a writ of foreign at t4 hiuriit hts lirrn ill'urd from the (-1 rk's office of the fa id Gcivrdl rmirt, in in f,v.r t thr ahove i..n.rJ Ettirnne rromilr's juiminiltr itor de bonus non, of Joirnh L.unnttr, icci d, a'uift t)r goods and chttr Is, rights and rrrdi's, bnds and trr.rmrnt, of thr f.id Kr Vi,,m fur vivm- jrtnrr of Elliott nl Willim-s, re-

Ujrt),llro the Srptrrnbrr trim of the prr-r-vt far,of the iVid Genri..! court, ad jrrctrd to thr .M.rrifi ,.f tHe CfHH'tV of Knox ; whirh iui Shei.fi -.ettimrd thereon th.t he li.d ttt,cltd a tr:,a of l,nd JL, t-Mir hnndrrd cirs, nunhrr trventy y4rl of thr ,.d Dilution, in t,c l.d CMH-ty of Kt."x, the piopcity of the UidLlie

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