Western Sun, Volume 2, Number 4, Vincennes, Knox County, 17 December 1808 — Page 2
f Indiana take a retrograde ftep into bar.
barihvi and aiumiilate ufclf with
anJ Morocco
Aimers,
On Motion, Refolved that the fnul bill be read a
fecond time imw, refolved that the CiJ bill
di-
4th. With refpe to its political effrtsjbe engrofiVd for a third reading imrne it nny be worthy of enquiry how lng the ately the fame being read a third time.
Refolved that the Paid bill do pfs
and that the title be as aforefaid.
political inRitutions of a people admitting ileverv may be expected to remain unin
jurrd, how propprr a fthool for the acquirement of republican virtues, "is a ftate of things wheirin ufurpitioii is functioned by law, wher-in the commands of juftice are trampled under foot, wherein thefe claiming the right of free menare themfelves the mod execrable of tyrants, and where is confecrated the dangeious maxim " that power is right' your committee will here only obferve that the habit of unlimited dominion in the fl ive holder will ' beget in him a fpirit of haughtinefg and pride productive of a proportionable habit of fcrrilny and difpondence in thofe who pjflVfs no negroes both equally inimical to our iuftitutions, the Lord of three or foui hundred negroes will not eafily forgive, and the mechanic and laboring man will feldom venture a vote contrary to the will of fuch an influential being. This qutf tion your committee have hitherto only confidered in relation jto the internal prosperity and happinefs of the Territory, they cannot yet difmifs the fubjrdt without offering to this Houfe two obfervations tending to prove that in relation to the Uni ted States the admifiion of (livery into x this Territory is a meafure which neither "juftice nor policy can juHify the negro holder can emigrate with their (laves into the fxtenfivef Miflitiippi Territory the . Terrritory of New-Orleans and the more exterfive Louifiana. By opening to them the Territory of Indiana a kind of men poly of the United taes land is granted to them, and the middle and Eafiern dates as well as enemies of ft every from th
ooutn are ett-dtuaiiy precluded from form
Ordered that the Chrk do carrv the faid
aft to the Legiflative Council and dtfue ft
their concurence thereto.
And then the Houfe adjourned until three o'clock this evening. The Houfe met according to adjournment. On motion. . .
Refolved that leave be given to bring
the orders of the prefiJent to recall your'entfcs to which T l.svr before UncTetT, as attention in the courfe of fevrral recent well as thr cbxnis u ? t u rt- ol ti t ideas interviews, to the Britilh orders in council thtmhlws uii'fi it in nt fU . of the 7th of January and 1 I th of aNoVciii- 1 c phi ot cciiluc tl tote without rxber, 1807, and to the various other orders prrfhign) linctie u .fh that what I have founded upon or in execution of thtm; now fujf,ltcd in k i i(imi:j with the libeand I now tke the liberty to renew, in ral frimti.Mits ai d enlightened view of the mode which 1 hve undei flood to he the prcfidcnt, Wry contnbice, not only indifpenfable, my inflames on thtt fubjefl. to remove the ti. ore in nR'iiat. ohftacles to I need fcarcelv lemind Vou. fir. that the the nrdinarv intertMiiit nf trae'r between
government of the United States has never your country and mine, in a manner con. ,ilceafed to cunfider thtfe orders a.' violating filletu with the honor of l oth, hut to preI 1 . 1 T r ' it 1 ....
its rights, anci ;iicting molt destructive ly pare the way tor a Utmactoty ac'jullfr.rnt itsinterefts, upon grounds wholly indmill. of every quefiion import-nt to their fntud
aoi : ooiii in piimipie auu iaci. U.;p. -
1 have the honor to be, With the'highcll coufideration,
rhe letteis of Mr. Midifon "to Mr J
Etfkine, of the 20th and 29th of M ait h,
in a bill to amend an al eutitlrd an t 1807, produced by the official coinmunic a-
authonting the granting of Irtters tefta-'tion ol that minuter ot the order ot the
mentary and letters of adminiftratioii lor
the itttlement of iwteftates eflates and for
other purpofes, and that meflYs. Bitjgs and
Jones be a committee to prepare and bring in the fame, whereupon nir. BWs report
ed the did bill the fame beinir read - re- . . e
lolved that the laid bill be read a feconu time now. On motion,
Refolved that the faib bill be commit
ted to a committee of the whole Houfe.
i
and made the order of the day for to mor
row. Mr. Jones introduced the following re
lIution Refolved, the Legifl.tive
council concurring therein that our Dele
gate to Congrefs be inflrucled to ufr bis
endeavors to have a Law palled allowing
turtrertime to the citizens of Knox Coun
ty in this Territory to claim and locate
land in the faid County and that the Clerk
ot this houle do inform the Legiflative
C umcil tbeieoU On motion.
Hrfolted that this Houfe confider the
v'xcufe of James Beggs for non-attcrdance
Sir,
Ynur mrfl ohrdieut Humble fcrvantt (Signed) Wm, pixkney.
ing fettlements in any of the Territories jdurinrr the fiift part of tbe prefent fdfion
of the United States : your committee
relpedttully conceive that the national
as fufficienr, and that his fine be and is
herel y remitted and then the Houfe d- ...
Legifliture cannot with jufliee make fucli ' "rned until nine o'clock to-moriow . . . 1 J:fi:i...: t-.c . i . 1
an iiiiruiiii mil i null inn i rnoif mo
-j y , kttvji jiiojr Jt allowed theexprelTio.i,) of the laws with
the dif poi -! or which the are entrufled for
the benefit of all, but efueciallv of thole
ftates whofe overflowing population render emigration neceflry. If we take a general furvev of the pe-
Ograph'Cal extent ot the Unitrd Stilus,
morning
Congrefs of the United States.
SENATK. TUKSDAY, NOVKMBER 15. The pre fident Communicated cetrain re
loiu'tnns p iitffi by the houle of repreleitta
" ,1, r . . , r ... , ',,,,,u j mi'ii uy me nuuir ui repreieiua e II frc w.th rOI,cr, the fylfm ol n.vy;tivts pf t',e ,,,;', Tcrr,tlirV( (mht ,4t
. - " Ul 1 ' vvai.ia;ot Oaob'f a . latin the rtifrnnront nl
t o " " ' v
the people wt-fi of the Wabifli. in confe-
quince ol their connection with the peo
and Ohio river, Florid a, rd from the Atlantic to the M.fiilhppi. By the puri .ret r i
cuau oi i.ouniana where it ws totinc ex- r,i u(..A f r :.i j A mr , . , (, . 1'' tllwarfi ot 1 - let river, and requeUing inf It tllV tTfAl Xn inr ifi'l i li ti i . i' . .....
-W Vu A u 1 a r r I " irPtion o! til- laid territory s th - on Worth and Weft fi that it m.y he f. id to h,. r . r jt , . . 7 , . P niean ot terminatinir thofe dift outeiits
nave received a molt ai irmin extenli in, ;,,tl . . i , r it i m j- it.!. , b HlHl ff'l'iri ii hartnoriy, fo efleit . to their
V ---uret er l prnip.nty. The refutations wer
ir4's n UI"'"'S it hi inuntu that is;rpa(! ,r ?lv IVnate
Ordrrrd, That they be refrrred to Mr.
jPo;", Mr. TifTm, and Mr. Hradley. tr
to fy, npfi.ing to it the vail tr;-cl of coun
try lying between the flutes of Ohio, the-
V x 'k"'""1 cHdcr .,,drrp0,ttl.r,r..n. jNliUillippi, the cnmprativt- importance of
th. ;,ld!e and I K.ll,,n (1 urs, tl.r rr.,1 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
wm mum W t 19 ITrtUJf mHlCeC! and he thneis threatening the internal tranqiill;ty of the United States pioportion olv rnrrefed. From the above reafons, and many othrrs which tniglit he adduced, vour committee are of opinion tint fl ivery cannot and ought not to he admitted i ito this Teintmy : that it is im vnefhrnt tfi nf.
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TUF.SDAY KriVKMBKR 15. Mr. Poimhxter, from tUe committe' appointed for that putpote, reported thr following bill :
j" A bill conctrning the powers of territo
tint gJV-rw.rs 44 He it enacted by the Sr.ute and Honf
of R prefrmtatives of t!.e t'nirrd States ol
llrifWiI.nrrf-l.frr-i nmLlir ,... I . K . , . .
r.i r i 'Mil' rit , m t.inrt Is .ikinb ec , I h it P Itt lilt IIP Itllllli Jlir r.l ,tn.. . . II ....... I . ' m m, i
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.f f,m tna!e cm
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and tint tiie acl of the Lei if Hire nf In
dnua fir the introdtic'ttoti of negroes and muhttos into the f.nd 'lrritoiy ought to be rep-at-d fr wh'n h purpuie they luvr lierr Aith rep.-irted a bill. Your committee are further of opinion
tiMi a ropy n tms report and a
on- ot the pernio'' u,on whi is prtdic ite'l be imuiedi itely . .... '
limned .y the wp"-k' r ol
attelled by the Ch-ik. and t r w ,t(h d hv
the eiifuin mail to thr- .v p-.k- r nf .'r
Ji'Hile nl Keprr Icr.t.itivf f thr U
lSt-tes with a rciii'fl tlMt he will .,v t.r
fame bcfjre (I n.r -.. GKNi.. W. JOMVSION, Ch.iitnun f (.on.mttns. Jr.dhna r?Vrrit. v ; Vmt rimes I y ih 0:1. 1808. On J ti n H' d that t' - H-nfe do concur i-. tw- tp.r i' ti-- t mntii!t-r, ' fi! entrled r 4 t-i rep"l an a" tM' 1 fl " m t rn(frM,r the in ttodir i -i. ";r.s ! nn.Un.. , n,t tint Tcin tory Icing, cad the bdt time.
1787 tnves to the governors of ti e lr.
rl territories of the United States, tl poxser to ptomur and di(T.lvr tlie (Je'. rrt AIT nibly, be, and the fame is hnb iep , I r ci . T;.e ! ill hiving hrn rra,l tir ftr Ali i o'k! time. Mr. I'oimh xtr r tnovrd fr . ?h.:d reading today, which was o ictr(
to by Mr. .'lonp. upon the ;rnntid tlm
w s u "ii f ii l, and th u th-
fu
' i
a t nu i
I'mjIkiii ( I thr iiruvrrs f ' f thr irovernoii. 1 th'- terntori'-s of hr United State, rr n
jt i: 1 ted by the hill, w.!S important, fo-
' u iki a it int lud (I a rej;ultion wit I ; fpedt to th, :n, .1S frrions a au am w Mi-i t to t! r co. ft Mi'ion f the Ui itec. v..'.. The I .11 f, ;.:iv committed K a comn-.ittce ot the ul ole houle to inoirov
7th of Janu ry, nd the anfwer of Mr.
Madifonof the 25th of M rch, 1808, to a like communication of the older of the 11th of Nov. contained the moft direct
remonftances agai;a the fyftem which Extract of a Utter from Mr. ' Pinkriey t9 thefe orders introduce and execute, and. Mr. 'Madison. exprcfled the confident expeftationl. London, Septtmbei 24, 18C8. ' of the prefident that it would not .SIR, be perfiled in. . i am noW enabled to tranfmit' to vou a
1 hat expeaation has not yet been fulfil- copy of Mr. Canning's anlVrr, rnnvrd led ; but it has notwithltanding not been only lafl night, :o my note ol the ; 23d of relinquiflied. The pieildeiit is flill per- Auguft. fuatled that its accomplilhmcnt will refultj 1, regret extremely that the views which from a careful review by his mfty's go-jl have been in.bu&ed to Uy before .this vernment, made in the fpirit of moderation government have not been met l v it s I and equity of the fatts and confiderations had at fuft been led 10 txprcl. The over, which belong to the occafion. ' ' jture cannot fail, however, to place in a r.It is not my purpofe to recapitulate in ftrong light the juft and liberal ft nftrrnts this note the llatements and reafonings by which our government is ann-. -vd, contained iu the abo e mentioned letters of and in other refpes to be ufeful anct- honMr. Mdifon, in fupport of the claim of orable to our country; " the gvernment of the. United States, thatj , .'" the Biitifh orders be revoked. I content FROM MR. CANNING TO MR. PINKNr T myfelf with referring to thofe letters for Foreign Office, St pt. n,hei . 23 1 808. proofs whuh it is not necefTary to repeat, The undeiiigned his m;.hfiy s piincipal and for arguments which I could not hopejfecietary of Hate for foreign fF.i.s, had the co improve. honor to receive. the 4 (lie .,1 letter acMiefTed But there are explanations which thofe 'to him bv Mr. Pint,,.,. o,.,.,n-
r-ttril rln nn ni..iH I L 1 ! I. . . . ' . . I
..... . ww titi. tuiiianii niiu wiuiii ii is uro
per for me now to mke. Even thefe,
however may be very briefly given, fiuce
you have already been made acquainted,
in our nte Converlations with all their
bearings and details.
1 hefe explanations go to fl:ew that,
while every motive of lullice conloires to
produce a difpofition to recall the orders of
wnith my government complain, it is be come apparent that even their profclTcd ob jedl will be beft attained by their revoca
iion.
1 had the honor to Hate to you, that it .i . . f .
was cue intention ot the nrchJent, in cale
Great Britain repealed her oiders, as re-
Raided the United States, to exeitife the
power efled in him by the adl of the 1.0
Mlion nt rntigrels, entitled l An atft to
uthorife thf prefident of thr United States.
u der cert-iin conditions, to fuipend the
petntionot the adl laying n einhargo on II fhips nd velT Is in the prts and harbors f the United States, and the fever.d fun
phrnentaty ads thereto," ly lufpeiiding
ne emhiigci law and its luppleiiiriils, as eg rds Great I ritain, I am author ife! to cive you this affu
n,,p ' the mnh t )ftinl manner, and I
Hull t hit iiiw.i. I . . .
-.u.i .nr.. lM, U.l I I I Ij U I I m It W. e lound to have n inducement' to peifr veranir in th" Britilh orders vj.ile it cie-
ites the moll poweiful indue i inents ot quity and policy to abandon them. On thr ftoie of juliice it does not ferm lllhlr to n.illrfke t i.c footing upon which is oveiUire places the fuhj t ; ami 1 -ntute to brlteve that in any i.thcr vicu h.'ie is as little room for doubt. II. as I pronr fe. vnur orders HmoM 1
rf
hud d as to the United States, ami om. theiV retdi .toiv me .f
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HU)M Mr. r I N K V 1 v r, GnrAi ( i Mil
Sir,
A o ij!! 2.3.
M'fTa;-,
It . C A N (. m am. Hi. au ,
I bf-b.
1 have had the honor in confc qucnic c l
I C I
inmiitn i. . in, . .... . ii .
i """" " in vnrai in u.tin. toe
rlfec'U of thelV Co tllflflit t vil! k
hat the con mertul inteic out f of thr tw
(ountilfS Will br HTimri!i.itJv iff..,,..,!.
Alnle it hiance Mionhi Air,r ii, .
w ill Allin td roinindt ir rogatory to the nuittal i.-hts ' f ti e Unitrd States, thr emb-ry... ontiruo'ir as to her, lHr ,,.((f1(f
,nnr orchis, .nd Ir-d. with -n 'Oi.((v n t
i lv rcpial to tbeits ,ul p nhahlv mini .renter, in -, the ConlVcpjrmcS that oufeht o relult ffom tlrm.
un tm o-nrr hind, if France fi 'oncnr in refpei?bokr thole ri, I rs. n ii . 1 "
"li.Mirirr moilIU t tut im I
II
tentiiiiy of the UniteH m-t.trs, refpetfting the orders in couni il ilTned by bis mj fly
on xne i itn oi niiHry and 1 1th of November, 1807. He has laid that letter b-fore the ling; and he is commanded to ifTure Mr. Pink, ney tint the anfwer to the popofal which Mr. Pinkney vaa itdlrudtd to bring for. waid, has been chfened only in the hope that the renewed application, which was underOood to have been re temltly made by the government of the United States to that of France, might in the new flate ot things which b.is arifen in Kurrpe, have met with fuch a reception in France, s would haye rendered the c omnli .i. t rf I .
majefly with th-t propofal to, fihent, as much with his majrys own dignity andu ilh the interelh cl his neonle. as it woohl
In.ve been with his maitfl's own difpofition t. . I... T T . . 1
""mius iiir uilllrd.
Unpappily the re is how no longer aim
region to be lieve tint fuch a hop-'is Uky to be realized. And the tiiKlrifi
therefore commanded to e c .mmin.il ..te to
Mr. I'mkney the ilecifion whiih. n..;
circumfiances as th-y ft.md, ,is n.ai-(lr
tr els biiT.f It eon pcllcd, however unwilling, ly to adopt.
1 he mitigated mefurf nf refli.t
announcrd by his nr-Mlv in tht- n.rl,r.
r unul ol the 7ih of J,nu.rV, and t,.. fur. her rxtrnhon in c perMion ht.t not in prin. i iph )by theoiders in cc until ,," K((Vrn, bei.werefoiif d'd, (as has h,r .Jrdv ,c-pe-irlly avo,d by his m,j fiy) 0 the " tn cju-an nableril:ht of I is m,j Cy to retort op n the rnrmy the evils ot hi- own n j. lt.ee, am! upon thP c rnfider ion tlut
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