Western Sun, Volume 1, Number 50, Vincennes, Knox County, 5 November 1808 — Page 4

JOURNAL J . or THE HOUSE or REPRESENT TIVES or tuk INDIANA TERRITORY, Begun and held at the Town of Vinccnnes, 911 Monday the 26 day of September, one thousand eight hundred and eight,

end cf the Independence ' the United

States the thirty intra On which day, being the day appoint

ed by his excellency the Governor of the Territory for the meeting of the General

Alterably T he following members appear

r ri ana took their teats

On Motion, Ordered, Tint the faid document and

petition be referred to a committee of the

whole to dav

Whereupon thi Houfe according to or

time pent therein, mr. Speaker refumed

the chair, and ;nr. Decker reported, that the committee had made fome progrefs

therein, and defircd leave to fit again.

On the queftion, (hall the whole houfe

have leave to fit again oti the document & petition it was refolved in the affirmative.

A meiWe from the Legiflative Council

by mr. Hurft, their Secretary.

Air. bpeaker, I am directed by the Le-

From Dtarborn, Jesse B. Thomas. Speaker g'flllve Council to inform this Houfe, that

der, refolved itfelf into a committee of thclto appear before the Legiflative Council,

wnoie nouie thereupon, and alter iome cc proiecute tne impeachment againit no-

On Moti$n, Ordered, That whereas Shadrach Bond, jr. who was appointrd at the Jfift ft (Hon ol this houfe in conjunction with mr. John

fton, as managers on the part of tins lioulr

Knox, GenU JK. Johnston Is Luke Decker

SU Chir, William Biggs, Two othef members,' viz. from St. Clair, John Mrssinger Randolph, Rice Jones.

Appeared, produced their credentials and

took their feats. On Motion,

Ordered, that tke officers of the houfe

tppointed attthe laft feffion .be confidered

and taken as the officers at this feflion. Davis Floyd having fent in his refigna

tion as Clerk to this houfe ; Ordered that this houfe will to-morrow morning proceed

to the election of a Clerk in his Read ; alfo

ordered that John Caldwell, be appointed

Clerk pro tern. On Mitien,

Ordered that a committee be appointed to examine and report to this houfe upon the certificates and other credentials of the members reiurued to ferve therein at this

feffion, and that meffrs. Genl. W. Johnfton,

and William Biggs, be that committee On Motion,

Ordered, that Rice Jones, be, and he

is hereby appointed a committee on the pm of this houfe, to act in conjunction with fuch committee. as may be- appointed

on the part of the Legiflative Council, to

contract for ftationery &c. for the life of

both Houfes of the Legiflnure at their prefent feflion And that the Clerk of this Houfr do Carry this refolve to the Council and defire their concurrence thereto. On Motion, .Ordered, That the rales and regulations for thr government of this Houfe, and the joint rules of both Houfes, adopted at the laft Seflian, be, and they are hereby confidered ?nd taken as the riifes for the prfnt f-flion and that the Clerk'of this H.uf- do Inform the Legiflative Cuncil thereof. & dr Gre their concurrence thereto. On Motion, , 'Refolved, That unlets otherwife ordered, the daily hour to which this Houft

fh?!l (land adjourned during the prefe&,5U Con, be nine o'clock in the forenoon.. H

On Motion, Ordered, That the certificates and credentials of John Meffinger, and Rice

Tnnei. be referred to the committee of

elections. On Motion, 5 Ordered, Th?t this Houfe do adjourn Until to-morrow morning at nine o'clack. And then the houfe adjourned accordingly. Tuesday, 17th September, 1805 The Houfe met according to adjournment On Mztion, Ordered, That the Clerk of this Houfr do inform tr Legiflative Council, th'-t this lloviic Invc f ifurti s quorum, and are now rea'-y to pro, to Ltgilhlive bulinefs. Mr. JonunVn, from the committee 'of election, r-prted, That the committee hrd cx. rnmca thr cm-ficates and credentials

whi 'i were refeirco to them, cf ihe nw.:ig members, v"z.

lrc :n the cour'y of Randolph, Ricr Jones. St. C'air, JoJ.n Messiner . And"fiod thcm.iuly ciectcd, and entitle! to a feat in this Home. On Motion, The Houfe concurred in th? f iid re port ; A r.ii thereupon tfc,oath to fupport the CoiiflitMtionof the United ; utes,. and th- oih of office, was adminiftered to JlefTrs. J ujrs & Jrffinger, oy Lu'e Darker, Rfq. a Jude of the court of Cauimui. Pleat of Kmx. The Speaker th"n hid before the Houfr a writtwi documrnt containing the grounc s and rvijf nrr, qccnjpani;-d by the petiticn cl -Hubert Rnbinfon, to fct afidf the elects on of l J.nrs. the member returned to ferte in this Houfe fron the county of Randolph.

they have formed a quorum, and are now

ready to proceed to Legiflative buflnefs,

and that they have came to the following rcfolutions.

Refolved, That the rules and regulati

ons for the government of this Houfe at

the lafl feflion, be the- rules and regulations at this feflion.

Rcfolved,That mr. Bond be a commit

tee on the part of this Houfe jointly with

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bcrt Jprrifon, efq. Clerk of the court of

Common Pleas of Randolph county, having

been line, that time promoted to the Le-

giflitive Council,

Refolved therefore, That mr. 71c (finger

be added to the managers on the p ut of

this houfe to act in conjunction with tin

preient manageisapd that the Llerk otthu

houfe do inform the Legiflative Council

thereof.

The houfe then proceeded to the election

of a Clerk, to this houfe, when upon coun

ting the ballotts it appeared t!m Wuhan

Jones had four votes, and Jon?tIr.4ii Jen

mors two. vvilliam lones tnereuion was

declared by the Speaker duly elected, where

upon the oath of office was admmmered tc

him by Luke Decker,, cfq.

On Motion, . ( r Refolved, That it is expedient to ?p

point an afliflant Clerk, in order to avoi

fuch committee as fhall be appointed by delays in taking down the proceedings ol

uic raouic or rveprcientatives, tor purchafing flationery. .

Refolved, That the Door-Keeper ap

pointed at the lafl feflion, the Houfe of

Reprefentatives concurring therein, be

Door Jweeper at this feflion. . Refolved, That mr. Fifher be a com

mittee on behalf of this Houfe, jointly

with fuch committee as fhall be appointed

by the Houle of Reprefentatives to wait on

the-Gov-rnar, and inform, him that a quo-

rum oi ootn iiouies are met, and are ready

to receive any communications he may be

pleated to make known to them. On Motion,

.Ordered, , Tfat the election of Clerk,

be poflponed until to-morrow. On Motion, 'Refolve J, Thatmr. Jones be appoint

ed a committee on the part of this Houfe,

jointly with the committee appointed on

tue parted the Legiflative Council, to wait

on the Governor of the Territory, . and in-

rorm mm tnat a quorum of the two Homes are aflembled, and are ready to receive any

fbmmumcations he may bepleafed to make

On Motion, - The Houfe refolved itfelf into a committee of the whole Houfe, on the. documents and petition, contefting the election of Rice, Jonesi and after fome .time fpent therein mr. Speaker refumed the chair, and rcr. ilrflinger reported, that the committee had came to the following refolution. That Robert Robinfon, have leave to appear befotr the committee either by himfclfor counfel, in the profecution of the a-

forefaid conttfted election, aud that the

this houfr and that they do go into the an

pointment immediately, whereupon op counting the ballots Jonathan Jennings wa? unanimouflvclected and took the nccefTarj oath, yf On4noU9n, . The houfe according to the order oi the day refolved itfelf isito a committee of he whole houfe on the contcflcd election of mr. Jones. Mr. Robinfon appeared before the co:r mittee in perfon, and motioned f a poll ponement of the inveftiLpti. u until the day after to-morrow, and th- ime w is i irrir.i in the afiirmative ; af:?r fome; time fp".nt therein, mr. Speaker refumsd h.e t! ir, ar, ! mr. Jtflinger reported, that tlifr co:ni!iit tee had according to order, reported th they had made fome prcgrefs therein an

begged leave to Gt again. On Motion, 'Refolvtd, That the committee have leave to fir again. On Motion, Refolved, That Davis Floyd, former Clerk of this houfe do deli.er over, to the prefent Clerk all the books and papers in his poflefiion, appertaining to hU cfHcei On Motion, Refolved, that mr. Johnfton be appointed a committee of enrolled' bills, on the part of (his houfe jointly with fuch com mittee as may be appointed fof that purpofe on the part of the Legiflative Council, and that the Clerk of this houfe do inform tht Council thereof. On Motion', Refolved, That a fUnding committee

of ways and means be appointed whole duty

conflderation thereof will be again it fhall be to take into confideration all furl. ,.r..M.J -i i r f L r A a J .i;

refumed to-morrow, and that the Clerk of

this Houfe do inform mr. Robinfon thereof, and tint ihe committee had made fome further prorefs it oVlired leave to fit again. On the queflion, Ihali the report of he committee be concurred in, it was refolved

in the amrmative.

reports of the treafury department, ard ?!

fuch propcfitions reLiive to the revtnue .c may be referred to them by the houfe," to inquire into the flate of the public dei"'i and of the revenue and r4pcpditurr, a.d report from time to time their or.ininn thrfe

Jon, and th"reup?n melius. Johnfton an'.

And on the queflion, 'fhall the commit)Jones wer" appointed fuch committee.

ice oi inc wnoie nave leave to tit again thereon, it was refolved in the affirmative.

On Motion,

Rcfolvrd, That a committee of revi-

. Mr, Jones, fjnv the joint committee .fal and unfinifhed bufi.ufsb sppoir.td -and made a report, he had according to orderjthat they report thereon to th s h. f-, .vaited on his excellency the Governor, who 'that mefrrs. Johnfton and jiefieiigtr be

returned tor anlwer, that he would wait on'tliat committee.

the Lrgifldture immediately in perfon, and make a communication to them. On .Motion, O d. fcd, That the Clerk of this houfe Jaiufonn the Legiflative Council, that this oufc arc now ready t receive them, in rdrr to receive the Governor's communi

ty, ons, and that the feats to the left of'ted on the part of this houfe, to profrtutc

'he Speakers chair are appropriated to the impeachment again K btrt ?io;rfon. tluir ufe for the above purpofe. efq. Clerk of the court of Common PJea Th- Legiflative Council entered, andjn Randolph crun'y, be, U are herein' di were fertted on thejeft of tho Speaker's 'retted not to profecute the faid hiprachchaif. , jment, ard that th Clerk of this hoafe The Governor attended, efcort;d by theiinform the Council thereof, joint commutes, tntered ad wa3 co.duc-jj vtr. Jolm(t:tn from the committee ap ted to thr l)eak's chir. from whence he oointeu hfl fcV.ir. ?o entraffr f,-r nrint!n

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A TieRp;c from the Lefiflitive Council

by mr. Hurfl their Clrrk, mr. Speaker, the Legiflative Council have appointed nr. Bond, 'committee of enrolled bills, and then he "withdrew On Motion,

Refclved, That the committee nppoin-

That as immediately after the rife of tho

Legiflaturc as circumftances would aunrn,

to wit ; tne silt 9i ocptemocr, iouMrui committee entered into the agreement with

Stout Ec Smoot, the perfons whole propo- .. . n

fals were accepted ot by the Legiliature, for the printing and binding 500 copiers of

the reviled code and acts pafTcd at the lait ft flion, at the rate of one dollar per page? and 2'5 cents per volume for binding in boards, and to have been delivered by them to you'coaimittee for diftribution at ther rate of 100 pages per month, for the compliance with wlijch agreement your committee trok from the faid printers, bond in the f un of 4C0Odoliarf, with Prter Jonea and rlcnry Huift, femrities, and which agreement and. bond on the 6th of October in the fme year, your committer filed in theTcrntorial Secretaries office. In entering into the .contract your committee intention illy If ft out the ZOO copies of the Journals ' ot' both houfes, as intended by your honorable bodies by our aforefaid refolution to e been printed and diflributed, for the tallow ing reafons, and under the following M:nreflioris, -

UK Bt-caufe your, ccramUtee were in-fnrmt-d by the printers themfelves that they had thm but a fmall fupply of paper, and it would require fome time to procure a fuffiriency. 2nd. Kecaufe by the terms of the propo-"

ffals of the printers upon which the rcfolu

tions aforefaid under which your committee ctrd w predicated, obliged them to print Tiot mort than at the rate of 100 pages per month, and which the printers attl time of entering into the contract limited your iomnmtce to, and it was then fuppofed by yeur committee, and the printers, that the reviled code, and idts cf Lft feflion r "Would mke at leaft 7CO pages of print, and the Journals of both houfes 400 which would :iavr given the printers for the completion, oi both jobs, the term of 1 1 months, t)efldes a ncCefiVrv time for vonr cnmmlttrft"

I vi flaw." nvirl mti) A V t,.M

done until all tht laws were printed, the in dcx to' the laws, and then for th'it to be printed, which would have prolonged the ime to one year at leaft, and 'when would tney have been received in' the different' counties, yeur committee were? therefore, 3rd. Firmly imprefled with the rational bt lief, that their MIow citizens, and your conftituents could not from the revifed code (Jo well any length of time without the Iiw that if tlv y were to remain without one or the other, it would be much niore advifa 6!e to be fo without the Journals than the Laws, as one was for their government, tc jhe other was merely detailed information of he formal proceedings in the two elective branches of tile Legiflaturc, arid that as the laws being of primary confederation jnd importance, ought to be firft proraolga. ted, that by the time this was done,, and the Journals printed and diflributed they would havV became unentertainmg, and frarrely read by one oi our citizens, notwithftanding jie Tenitory would have in urrtd the expnceof 4 or 500 dollars, this would as the immorul Dr. B. Franklin obfcrvs 4 have been buying the whiffle. Your committee made their maririnaV

o - - otes to the Laws in 9 correct and amp' c a manner : $ they were able, hut they are forry to have it in their power ftj ftatr that

e notes were very much mutilated and

neglected by the f rinters. On or the o-

tlier of your committee, at a facrafice of their private engagements, ond difragarding' jjetuniary confiderations, always attended

when requeued byjthe printers, to the col

lation of the Laws. Yr.ur committee ob

tained from the printers on the 28th of

AJay, of the pre ft nt year, and deDoflted in

the Territorial Sccretarirs r-flfce, the orioitl .... . ..

nai laws ana acts, wMcfi thev had thereto

fore taken and eelivrrcd to thr printers, ant) this w.as the day after the printers had fi-

nilhed printing of them, which was near

four mirths uUrr the laws fhuld have-

been r.oi only printed, but delivered to

( To be continued )

drliverrd the following fpeech. Cn Jlothn,

jthe Laws

tnals of bot

O dered, That this houfe dn adjourn 'leave to rr.

until to-morrew morning 9 o'clock, Jcthen

tie haute adjourned accordingly " UWncuIay, ZBtb Sept. 1808. 1 he houfe met according tn adianrn

mei.f

5ccWcftcin 5un,No. 45.

That tl

ed by two giflature to cootri ' latig, bi of the rc ' la ft feflio Journals . .

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WANTED, BOY bci ween 14 c t6 years of vgi as -in apprentice to the printioe bu-

finefs at this office.

FROM THE rK ESS OI E. STOUT. PRIXTEtt TO THK TEhHITORT AW Cf ', THf. LAWS OT THE UKITED STATES.