Western Statesman, Volume 1, Number 4, Lawrenceburg, Dearborn County, 31 March 1830 — Page 1

4 . : " -" Till CONSTITUTION WISDOM, JUSTICE, 310 DERATION. Y. . L.AWRENCEBUKG1I, INDIANA ; VEl).vDAY, MAUCil -Ji,

I'K1NT!:T AM' 11 ill I-!IKI HY Ml I, TON iM .fi. COHXTH or lll.-II AXO SHOUT STRI":T. i:TK.ns I kom MS. WEBSTEIl'S SPEECH hi Mr, Poofs lirsol'itlon rilativc to the Vullic l.an,lt com i rni n. Hiving rrcurrod In these two important

me-i-sun s. m answi r to the gentleman s in

C'lii ics. I inn

oilier consideration is, tliat the United

Sta'is have the means. J In y enjoy the revenut s derived finm wmmrrro, and the "talcs Lave no abundant and easy sources

i ii a i ill

i.t ,i;',iti uwi, .nin r-i iMiL.'iom iitii( nc ti i

row irr t million to go;' ' i",L"" "-"1" " ; ".-" - ' "

lwk to a K'ii,,l stdl s.tn.Mhinura'l.er, tor M1"'" -"""'. while the states Have the p.ivjxwo S:,ll further of shewing Low .' lesources.f xeept by resort to heavy m-ch, .r rather, how little lecson there i?;hrcrt taxes. I nder tins view of Hung.-, I

thought it .necessary to settle, at hast lor

Pennsylvania, cvv Jersey, and Delaware, J t lie maimer iti whicn'm hiAj.Y-V tl, . have unit! d to accomplish it, at their joint mail has now mveij.ht-1 against them expense? Certainly not, for the same ica-ipartand panel of the rystem of t nnsolid-.-son. It could not be done, therefore, butjtion. hether this p-'ty arose it: toutli by the ceneral government. 1 he same 'Carolina herself, or in her lioighho' hood, is may be said of the large- inland umlerta-'more than 1 know. I think the latter, king-, except that, in them, government.! However that may have been, there were instead of bearing the whole cxpciifc, co- those found in coulh Carolina ready to

operates with others who hear a part. The make war upon it, and who did make intre

pid war upon it. ixames being regarded as things, m such controversies, they bestowed i'ii the anti-improvement gentlemen the name of Itadicals. Yes sir, the name c : f radical?, a a term of distinction applicable and applied to tiiose who chiiifd the liberal doctrine? of internal improvements.

originated according to the 1 t ol n y rec

tor the genilt : man's insinuation, that j"

iiti-

rnl iii x s, or b ar?, -r Dart v associations, vvete tl;p gi(.tii(l-s f these Nnv Ihiuhind

And after what lias I - en said, 1 hope

i c tnr''ivon me, I i a mi h1 to s.nm

! 'i. ..ii I Vv.;. .'inv own.

V';?"R It Til.:

mvst It", 'erne deliniie notions, with respect to the powers of government, in legard to internal atl'airs. i may not savor too much of self cotnmendaMon to r. mark, tin' with

oiiecnon, somewnere neiweii ;oi.ii Carolina and ii orjia. Well, sir, tlm.-e mischievous radicals were to Le put (!o".n,and the strontr tutu of South Carolina was

of

::tre'c''ed cut to pu'. her. -' v-:i. Alu ;t

r; this .!)' !, 1 considered the censtiliitimi, I iii.it lone, sir, 1 ic-turi.ed v ."v" ries-. '!".

v rv hiit. i.uhiic inov rtanee. cortaii.lv, hit I ,lM'"'l,',;n consiruruo,,, ,,.s roioooipoi.uie- name vvun u.e laoicaib i.a. wy -"Ui... I.;..!. (,.,', .i... i. ...' .. . ,..!otm exposition, and the whole histoiv ottiie and our toutli Carolina cha'ionotis ot the

leirisSatton ot eongtrss under u ; ami l ar

provisions vi

1 against

vot

given :i:i. e pi( Fsed. may pass tor g

utresM; on this occasion. Tins government, .Mr. President, from its oiijv.n to the peace of 11'. 1.5. had h en too

i ii enp rosCil vv nn varmns otner linpor

1 1;:? or.f i to he a'o;e to turn its tiiouihl

tMwr.n', at.fl h'.ik to thodevelo

fiif cr. )Oll

nved at the conclusion, thai government had p over to accomplish sundry objects, or aid in their accomplishment, which are now ooken of as Internal Ijiikovi-mf.nts.

J' I lut conclusion, sir, may have, been right,

t .o'.-i'r it may have been wroiijj. I am not about

nriiK i

T.r.t ni'-tnil i csoot ce. In ti,e early parti 10 ar?uc u,, m 11 al ,!lFe- ' :,.v .-f'p.vf .ii nt Va?".r.et n's a,hinnHation. OI1,' tliat " was inlopte.1 and acteil on, even .1 w.:i f.iy occup:ed with orgar.i.ii.o gn-!F, l;i,ly ns,!1 ,!u;- lr- l'rcsuient, ..i-nrr.. .",. ;.!., ,r i.,r t'. v.iUi;.- .'. j, i I nude up my opinion, and determined on

lor.dint the tV-'i.iiei

i' li' "il -' tir.d? ni) my opinion,

and hi.iinlainin ' (io-'my intended course of political conduct on

inesijr peace. Ih toie the toi niiiiatinn of that admiiip ti .ltioti, the lin s of the t'lencii rei bui-Mi bl i.eil forth, as from a i.ew ojitiitt'l v oieano, and the vvhr.le breadth of the

ece in d d not eii'm 1 ( ( u:e u from fet if The stlli We aioi li.e cimieis re

tnese sul.jects, in Hie 1 itii congress, in J CIO. And now, .Mr. President, I have further to say, that 1 made ep thce opinioiic, and entered on this c.oiuse of political

it el-1 conduct, 7V tu ro Duce. Yes, sir, I pursued,

ill this, a outli Carolina track. On the

m

ii-', I in 1 1 gh ii' t lli..- burning lava. Ihtlindt and a- I'atu g qu' vijons, embarrassing to poVenmieot, :-l d dividing public Cpil.ion, S)jii!!g jiiil el i he new s'.ite ot our lotei-jn le!:i'io!). and wer "-u'-cfcdid bv otheis.

nndv.t a'Minbv ..iheis.e'.j.VdvciiihaHiiss-,ilt!'' ,Iirnsa f;lmrt' corner, unless 1

iv, arid iu.illv rxci'ing division and !i-

lioctrioes of internal improvement, South Carolina, as she was then represented in the other house, setfoitii, in 1H1G, under a fresh and leading breeze; and I was among the folh.vvois. Pnt if" hit leader sees new

see new lights also, i keep straight on, in thosiine path. I repeat, thai leading gentlemen from South Carolina were tirst and

the lo:;g -ene-- of twenty

tma iV issued in ti.e war

liowii n ii o rl,... tin-' fotcmast inhehalfof the doctrines of inter

nal Led. a.,d d. l.he.Mto mil imptovrincnts.

on!, thl;

ye-r. il l th. y W nil r,li:'':ihd.

v. at , ho i!i-t met,

r.tteuti'.n h:.d lee given, or aid have l ei !i ;iii n to tlie internal condition of the cui'.iitrv. its c; pa. iti s ef imnrnv) inont. or

tie ronrtitutional power of tn'e overmriTt. j '(ct '',x. show who was who and what

I ir.r.uov counts, when those doctrines

list came to be considered and acted iijion

in congres. 1 lie debate on the bank picstion, on the tanrl of la 10, and vn the di-

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in k ; ,td to . I je, t, connected wnii hh h vvas w.uu, .u ucu uine i ne lanu oi i oio, in ;-o,vt n; i,!, one of the yh'm cases of oppressioo and I 1 - pr e. Mr. IVsideut, bron-U about 'ui,rl a,,on lro1" wl''ch. if the government

(il.n'i.l. , itop'lifdto ll- otucr pi. -pe;P, ni d :'Mj-i.fs'i d other dunes; we i.iir-i Ive? v-.e t hanged, and tiie wholo w -:!.! was eh iic. ii. I he pa itication el r.i.r-jH alter June, UM;, assumed a fit m and perm.i-ii-ti1 a. jie. t. 'I he n.ition evidei.tly u.aie-l-ied tin' t'.iey were d.sied f-r peaee; i l.:C I'!; ll.ltion ol the WlVCS tllllltit be I -

1 i i ted, even :f'er the si oi in had "iib-ided, but the tendency vva-'. stio;-giy aim rapidly, i tuV. u. is. si t ied icpose. I: i I appciifii. sii, that I was r,t th;.t t' ! e .a v.. -in! it of. -o'igre?. and, like e'h'-is. I.atntaiU tun ed my ati.ntioii to the cop teii'pkitiou ol the newly alteu d condition ol t o count! v and of the world. It appealed I' .ii h enough to me, as well as to vviot i tl uio'e expi rn r.c d men, that tl e pohev if . b'- : v et nun tit would tu-ee-s inly t -he 1 s'art, in a iv vv hn cii -n; becaiiso ne.v oit ct: '. vvoul l iicceai'lv be given to ! ,i i u;-'ui' and occnp.itioi of 'h- p.oplc. We

:-s not recede, individnal s'ati s tmv just

Iy sen-de from the gov erntiH i.t, is, sir, in truth, a South I an lih.i tariff, supported by South Carolina votes. Jhit for those votes, it could not have passed in the form i:i which it did pas; whereas if it had depended on Massachusetts votes, it would have been lo.-t. Does not the honorable gen'.lenian

! well know all this? There are certainly

doctrines of internal improvement had no

bly maintained their ground, ;nd wee un

derstood to have achieved a victory. 'l ey

had driven Lack the enemy with dico i h ture; a thing, by the way, sir, which is not always performed when it is promised. A

gentleman, to whom I have already referred,

in this debate, had come intu congress, during n.y absence from it, Irora .outli Carolina, and had brought wito ln:n a high reputation for ability, lie came horn a school with which vvc had leoii r.cqn.i'utod, tl o--cilar a sot ii.s. 1 hold in in; hand, sr., a prin-ed speech of this distinguished gentleman, (Mr jMrDiTKiK.) on ixtf.rn.vi. mprovi:ments," delivered ahoit 1 Jit petiod to which I now refer, and p-tnti-d wit!i a few- introductory roniaik-.rpiT" consolidation; in which, sir, I think I e piite consolidated tiie arguments of Ins opponent.-. tin1 radicals if to crush be to consolidate.

I give you a short but substantive quotation from these remarks, lie is si caking of a pamphlet, then recently puhh-hed, entitled Consolidation j"1 and having alluded to the question of re-chartering th'.'foimer bank of the United States, lie says . "Moreover, in the cany history of parties, ami when Mr. Crawford advocated the renewal of tin; ohj

charter, it was considered a federal meas

ure ; which internal improvements mver ra, as this author erroneously state?. 'I his lalier measure originated in (lie administration ol Mr. -lellersoti, wi'h Ihe appropnation for the Cumberland road and was Ihst proposed us u system, by Mr. Caihojn, and rnrriA 1 1 r.ui.i ti ! I in boiwe of I ' e'l '' S

by a large majority of the lepnulican , in

cluding almost every one ol mo leading men who carried us through the laft; war." So then, internal improvement is not one of the federal heresies. One paragraph more, sir "The author in question, not content with

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ty , to mako ro.nh r.a.i.ii v..h:u " 'lie states ,,(' rn,,v,, ' Tiie yas and nays v.etc taken in this prov iso, a id the honorable member VoU-d in lui'dtirc. The proviso tailed. A m .tun was then made to add this proviso, viz : "Wn-JVif, That the faith of the United States is hereby pledged, that no mouev -hall ever be expended for roads or canals, except it shall I e among the several state-, and in the sinic proportion as direct taxes

are laid an. I Rosscti by ththe Con-aiturii.ii.'1 'I ho honorable niem'-?r .1 . i i . . .

utis irer.'-NO. ni-o. and it i mei

'I lie biil was then put on its p:5s-;.xr, and the honorable ineinl er v,ie;' for it, a:i.i

it pass-d, and bccnine a law. iNovv. it strikes me, sir, that th' to isnolp, niaiiitamiiig- ib.,-sj votes, but upon the pow- j , or . f in'.-rg.a! i;o; row.! ;,! :.o i's ! r; -ede- ' ' ? seo-f. I ii 1 1 .lib, I hose bii is f. ;- ! : t . : , r.

estimates have always hoea co:-.-iii. nod asj woi te: t quest ien. Thev show who is for, ".r. i h'-wn who against inteiv.al imorov emen! This!iir.

law itself wen! the winde lengtli, and a-ai-med the lull and conijdete power. The gentleman's votes sustained that power, in every tbrni, in which the various pr.po--i-tions to amend presented it, lie wool t' r tiie entire and unrestrained authority, with-' out Cf.iisultitig the states, and without agreeing to any proportionate distrii.ution. And, now, sutler r.i to remind yo-.t, Mr I'resident, tha it is this very same power, thus sanctioned, in every form, by the gentleman's own opinion, that is so plain and manifest a usurpation, that the state of

Smith Carolina is supposed to be justifn d in refusing submission to anv laws eanving the power into effect. Truly, sir, i not this a little, t o hard? May we not crave some mercy, under favor and protection of the gentleman's own authority ? Ad

mitting that a road or canal must be writ

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Kill. i e

H'.,.' ee.i ,;an.

th-m.-m h-.o h.ir.oi .-i .', o. 1 tioil." ! ( .,,1 ,ui, . :eplj-. ,!i ' one kiod of con -ulidati..!! to v attarh. d, rind that was, the no

J ti" e:i-,lt- . . .v .4 n I was oi.in v I"loj

or oi a rxiox ; and tliis w is pro;:- . 'v tliat consolidation to which i h ,;,-d oih-n-s were not attaelied. 'I'll. it :i.--l con inlidatioii was the very end of tin Con-tit. iio tl ; leading obji'. !, ;is they had ii.ihri ;! i:s tiiemselves, whi.-h i's tranters had kej.t in v;evv. I tinned to duor eoiuioonicalioii, ami rend i!i.-ir very word; "th" consolidation of the l.'ni ni" i;id enre-e.l lnV devotion to tliis Sott ef comso'i,.! dioii. I vud, in terms, that I vvi--.in-d m., in th'j sligilte-t decree, to angir.eiit the ".owers of

s government ; that n:v s '.-ve, pot to nihil ; a; i-hi:iiig the Ihiion. a: 1 ; : '. i o r (-i tins o i.' '..-'. 1

tn t'e- i:,. .. o !,. .

as

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. vva. by 1 1 i 'i

Id

m .; 1 a, p.:

onon'.s, it pa i s com..!.

to

Ie;s 1S, . t!ty .-i'-n.

an

ten .'.own 11 at u urp.V.ien as ever was committed, may we t tul no mitigation in o r respect f-r his place, and his vote, as one that know s the law ?

The tariff, which Sotilh Carolina had j tendency ; it the geotleman di-li!

ma n coiod iinoei1ano me

tending fir an extension of :h p.-. th" e.iver.nsent, or Jhr eonsr.!id.it; :'iat oilions '-l ose, in which it means

cimii'.lalioii in t'.i" fedcai gover:.;.;o the powers i-"jerl y boloiooug to tb.c I re-o-i'o, sir, ihat, in ml opting the -,-men) of ihe framers i f the ' 1 1 -1 1 ' . e 1 i . v read their hin.guag' aodd Iv. and w t.1 t word; artd 1 pointed out the ?- pis! as I'i.Hv as I have now done, l i t--... the consolidation of th. Cnioo, ;:, 1

"ther obnoxious eoiis-oliil.iiiop, which I ciaiiued. And yet the honorable meini.c mispndeMoofl inc. Tiie g'- dlemm ii.-. - iid that lie wir-hed f o-r.v tied revem."-

r.oi a shilling

I f, by a Word, ! on

hi, he would

it. Why all this fear of r eoue?

Id c,-. p-.t V M hv

ir, because, ns the

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Mlb -man !hl e -. i'

t irfs i e ins I'.idal!. u. ovv. tins can n.'-.e.

neitiier more nor less than tliat a oon;o:o! revenue is a common hiten-- :.nd th.;1 u;( eoimnon interesis lei nl to hold the onion of the-states tegeiher. I eonfe-s 1 hl-.e lie .

an efficient hand in establishing, in I's It, and this assert, d power ofiidernnl improve-' ment, advanced by her m the same vearJ ami as we have now seen approved and sanctioned hv her representatives in 1S.I. these tw o measures are the great grounds on whi. h she is now thought to le justified in breaking up the Union, if she sees lit to break it up ! I mav now safely say, I think that we have had tbr authority of lending and dis

tinguished gnnllemeti trem r-outn an li-

a in support f.f the doctrine ofintermil im-

provement. 1 repeat, that, uptoisgl, I

for one followed Smith Carolina ; ltd when

that star, in its ascension, veered oil' in an unexpected direction, I relied on its lihl

longer. fMer.

lire-

is rigid in depn eminga shilling's ii

'.erne. So much. sir. I or Coiisoiid.ilii.p As well as I recollect t'i" cur-e of Id r. ntarks, the houoi al-'.e gentleman ;v t r.

Ho d.

euned to the subject of ihe tai ilf.

not doubt the word nwM be f loipl. ; :n sound to me. and proecede,', w iih an t ill-ii neither li. W l.o;- atlen.'ed vv nil new s'l.-ee-s.

to involve int.-and mv votes in

cy and c.-nlrtidiciion. I am

I, dpo-.'.. d our commerce fit and l.et.un-

hr the a.lv.u.t ig" . t a rcuH d ll

to. n wire n. vv no 1 ougt r i; igs. i i.h. r neu-

the principal feature, and that which has

chicilv elicited these observations, is? th.

renewal ol the sTF.n or ivtkknal im-

l'Rovr.MKNTs.' iovv , tin- mcasnre was a-

donted by a vote of 1 !. to M. cf a repubii

can congress, and sanctioned by a repubii

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not say this toieproa.h South Carolina ; Mr. Adams Mr. Calhoun, and the maj in I oniy'state the fact, and 1 think it will ap My of the South Carolina oelegation i.i eoi: .-..v.r t., be line. ll,:.t amoiiLr the earliest and 'gross, HWtly extends the denun. iatioi

holdest advocates of the tai ill', as a na as- to Mr. Monr,e and the whole republican

..i. oinrot. ctinn.iout on iheexmess ground I'artv. Il-re are Ins words, wining ine

of nroicrtion. weie leading gentlemen of ladministralion . Mr. Monr.e, niiieh has

South I atnlma, in c.nvjiess. 1 did not j passed which the r'-piilliom party w.-,. Id then, and cannot now, understand their be glad to approve of, if they could ! I Uut

language in any other sense. While ibis ta i'.l ul U'lt; was under .hscussiuii in the ' bo.iseot r-.pvoc iitatnt s, an honoriihle genjt'em an from tieorgia, now of this house, j( ir. I'ok-vih.) moved to mlnce the proi -.. o. .1 did v mi i -niton lie failed bv tour

L.i.t onth Carolina eiviii" three 'votes, can president. Who, then, is this author

l-:' I !. .,.1. 0 i ....! ibo ':ile 1 airamst who assumes the high prerogative of de

v - - - ' p . .i , i.i;

111..'. Ill III.: ll.lllli: -"l IM.OIIV.Hll

tr i' or ! Ihgeiciit. 'I he b e v. -i of iii ntr dItv had be! ii giea', but vv li'ol g 'i' hen d il

ad. itii toe pejee ol i,ut oe. wasoo-C

vn i; th"" won!,! mo leg up in her circle o ,,, . . ' , ., r ,,c .i'.o denoimceii : men who will be regarded

r-'i is. a revived and luvoeraied spoit o! '. ,'.,, ..,,,,.,, , vnoi.it ,l:idv in ihe 'ornaments ofSiuth Carolina, and the strou

1. i ,. ..f'tli.wn oi 1!'. '1. and KV'o. igest 1

as acaseof man. I.st oppression, justify,, g as ihe late vv ar shall be remembered, end

,!m:um I nut it home to the honoiab C i talents and liau iousui muui leg uueu u

flint Ids iu ii i the nronor ohiects of the admiration and

t i .. .1 .iii...!.. . .C , I ...tn imotil,

- ate v.as noi only "art ami pan in mis gi..nui.n; o, ., r- - i

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uu .isnie, nil ine citvsa i rntsatis. vvnnoui In raid, this seminal pi incip'.e of miscliiel,

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n.j mi.i ..-n i i ict tn-. i ipii oisseii a u "'"

r..,x.i on ,u i,:.:.'c.i inesunnoit ofa ma-1 party, the republican administration of tin

itv of the iep'..stiiiitivis..l .South Caro-leoiintiy ; a denunciation lucindiug wuhm

I his act is tie,ttssvvep,CalliouiHJiOVVii(tes,i;iid . neves

is tiie. iirightcs

joi i

d

a lit vv activity inaiit. e .u-m

(I

tilvi i; j.-r t - ot civ I IZ d hie. 1 1 I if el. our ci e.ni' ri ..-I gains were to be earned only by !')'( - 01 a eio-e and inen:e rotnp'-tit.a. f)' r na. , ois would po.d"ce f. .r 'hem -civ. s.

a -'.I c e i v ii r ',-, m a ' i r j . r 1

b.r llvmselvi"', an I m anu!.ciui v

! f s, to the full x'ent ofllif ti 'I he.iops of oar plains would sii t iiii I 'an r eran tonnes nor ur

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rr so

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IV nior, ni .in in ii.ii

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. . ii Mn.itoc io supply T-icm'-eivf s. i

o'.vi' l!-, lh.it, im.hi these r;n um-tan-(! c ci'ii ti v would hi gin to sniviy it- . and to i stun i'c its evv n c u o ;t i I ini-

:ro( m. nt

ioiior:it.e rvet-l'i'ir".) t ppoj innii v f a t oi.( '. I,;lt sid iecf. I w as g!

!', ivi

11 -Oll' ISlr ;. Iiappy thy ' r ,.

it an

:e.t to I

ol

And i!n in

:u r omplish. -

bow

I, and vv bo was to

We wi re u u ei t he milnri ad over iihi".-t hall a

V, e WeIC I V lit V - ''IT s'dc-, some H'g.''tgl!r s .li e se.ibo iid, some In- s.inn In,- of inland (rontn r, and i.n i p-io- :ie b inks oftl. :ime vat

e'i it :

Sin b are the oiunions. sir. which were

maintained bv South Carolina gentleme

this loot oi l. pas, could not have Intel! plant- : ,i , ilsc ,r representatives, on the sul

ed. 1 have ;di eady said, and it true, that j j,,,., ,,'injernal improvement when I took

tins aci ptocecoeu on me g iu tn io.ev -( liy s(;lt ,l0ro as a ,,eml',er trom Jiassation. It interfered, directly, with existing rn,.,.tS m s ,i. Hut this is not all : we

inteiejts ol gnat vaiueand uinoimt. H llh;ul ;i lill brioit im, ami passcil it in that

up the ( 'aieutta cotton Untie by the roots. lint it piis-etl nevertheless, and it passed on the principle ol piotccUng manufactures, ..1. the i.nncii.le auainst lice trade, on the

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house, entitled "an act to procure the lie

cessary survevs, plans and estimates, upon

ihesnbiect of roads and canals." Itauthor-

j . . .

n( d the prcsutftit to anise surveys una csii-

I. ! 1 ,e

i ( oils nit"

aliens at oi e pi m ni

pt tin-i sl it.

I v.

Ml.' -. in lOi k'll

. v. i'Ii jtieal f..r e. ( ne was. th:;l that .! i no i !. I enpi o . emt nt, which t oii-ost .;. ' ..ii. inifin v in ibtit s nl ltd. M .ultra-, ri v i oi into thllVient s'a'-, in eve- ' ' i:i-!,i!iM', ; nd V ould ben. ft tin

t.p

t all , m i -pit.

o o

a;

o one sta'i ,

It i ,ci s, vvonhl as.-iun lie I in W:tsthe Co ipci at ion o)

'.en. to , i vp' i ttd. lake llie i I 1' ). iv an- r.ie. kw.il. r. It ' vi i .', millions of monry. Would

h.l i ,i'.,iiie have en r cnn-ntnie.

i: mi iple ei'1'o.vcd .) Unit which li ts us olont. , 1)llit(. x to , ot'thc routes of such roul

Such M r rrcsident, were the opinions of ," canals as lu might deem oj national imi,1o, ianta..tlleadi.,gget.tl. men from South ortam e, in a military or comnuraal point . t:. .i ..r ;,.i.. no.l iiiinmti -' of rietr.of for the transportation of tin mail:

VUMIIIII.I, "11 UK IUMI 1 "I '" I-' . , .1 J II.,-., ment, in KUti. I went out of congress the .! appropialed thirty thousand dollars,

,;,Menr, and r. turn.ng again in KVJ.5, "" 'HHc treasury to delray u.e expense ... .i . i i i i..i '1 Ins nd. iboimb oreliiiuiiarv in its nature

1 I ...t..rl.l I I. .11 nil rsolll II I Tollllllil lit II. I 11. Ill - M - J

I "- . . .. . ' I .1... ..!...' 1 It look Ol

I i. I I .. ...,......wl II,. I I tlili.is H.o, villi 111"" nnwi: j-ionini.

remained as tl.ey were, and lh.it the South granted the complete powe, of internal in,- . i: .., 1 nrovcnieiit. lis tar as anv ol its adv.Kates

IJaro ina Ooriiiiie oi nie iiauni 'nninnina , i ,, n I; ..i . .... .,,....l,.i l.v.l,,. s:, e cl.iouentlhadeverconten.ledlorit. Hav n.g passe.

voices, an. i tiie same mumi .uui-, i - ; i ,.. .i,i .t..i... , i .i i n..fii,..fi;vr. iN il is sena e and was here considered mid delta tint v lu the lapse ol these six veais, ii is ..... J , . . 1 -...; ...I ' i n tel iii April ff. The honorable mom

irue, pm.uca. s - . .r . S.l1 Carolina was a member of

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new aspen, ami m uiii' i j had an-en in the south, hostile to the doti in, nf intrin.il iinnrovf incuts, and had

vr'orously attacked that doctune. Anti-

consolidalu n was ihe Hag under w hu ll tins

ii

. it only n.v.i, while ls mnoii lasts, pally longht, and H supporters lnveigneo v it o ,"i t .... ., , ..tr l , i. t!it. VouMii'-nuit lUtt-tnal linpiovtineiits, much after

the senate at that time. lule the Inl

was under eom-ideratioii here, a motion

was made to add the following proviso:

"Vrr itleJ, That nothing herein con

tained shall be construed to alliini or admit

a pow er in emigre, on their ow n authon

the v ice president saitl

1 -CS the chair understand the gentleman

oin Massat husetts. to sav, that, the per

son now oecipving the chuir of the senate,

angetl his opinions on the sulject ol

internal improvements! t rem nothing

ver said to me. sir, have I had reason to

now ofanv change in the opinions of the

lerson fillinii the chair of the senate. If

such change has taken place, I regret it ; I

peak genernHy ot the state ol South ( aro- - i i - i i . ... . i

ilia. In.iiv iuuais we Know mere are, w no

hold opinions favorable to the power. An

application tor its exercise, in l.thall oi a public work in South Carolina itself, is

now pending, I believe, in the oilier house.

irescntctl bv members lrom this state.

I have thus, sir, perhaps not w itho.it s me

ledioostiess i detail, shown, that if I am in

rror, on the subject of internal improve

ments, lew, and in what company I fell

into that error. It I am wrong, it is appa

rent who misled me.

I go toother remarks of the honorable r iii . i . . i-

tnemher ami i nave 10 compiaui i ..u entire misapprehension of what 1 said, on the

snbieet oi the national deht though i can

hardly perceive how any one could misun

derstand me. W hat I said was, not that I

w ished to put oflTthe. payment of the debt, but, on the contrary, that 1 had always vo

ted for everv measure for its reduction, as

uniformly as the gentleman himself. II

seems to claim the exclusive merit ofa dis

position to reduce the public charge : 1 do

ot allow it to him. As a debt, 1 was, 1

. i :..

;im. tor raving n: eecause u a v n-ugt

on our finances, and on the industry of the

ountrv. Hut, I observed, that 1 thought

perceived a morbid fervor on that subject ;

an excessive anxiety to pay olfthe debt;

not so much because it is a debt simply, as

tecausc while it lasts, it furnishes one obection to disunion. It is a tie of common

interest while it lasls. I did not impute

uch motive to the honorable member him

self: hut that there is such a feeling in ex

istence. I have not a particle of doubt. T he

most I said was, that il one etl.H t ol the

leht was to strengthen our Union, that ef

fect, itself, was not regretted by me, however much others might regret it. The

gentleman has not seen how to reply to

this, otherwise than by supposing me to

have advanced the doctrine, that a nation

al debt is a national blessing. Others, 1

must liniK, will find less dillicullv in un

derstanding me. I distinctly nnd pointed

Iv cautioned the honorable member not to

understand me as expressing an opinion ta-

vorable to the continuance ol the ucht

repeated this caution, and repeated it more

than once Uut it wiu uuvwn .iwuj .

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for it is a .pioslion I enter upon with : har from mi v body. The strenuous toil of the gentleman has been to raise an in.-on-si-tenev letween my oi-sout to the tnrili in 1.v! and my vote iii lJN. It is labor h st. He pays nwlesorv cd compliment to toy speech in IvJ I, but tliis is io raise me high, that my fall, as he vvonhl have it, in 1V"J, may K- the more signal. Sir, there was no fall ; t all, lu tweeu Ihe ground I stood ot! in lv-M.nw.l that I took in ihcre w.s. not only no precipice, but no decliv ilv. U

was a change ol position, to meet new circumstances, but On the same level. A plain lale explains the whole mat'er. I i

ISlt, I had not ac.puesced in the tari'd".

then supported by South Carolina. To

some parts oi it, especially, 1 felt ami expressed great repugnance. I held th" s;.i,n"pini.'.ns in IVJl.at the meeting in Fanuvil Ilali, to which the gentleman has alluded. I saitl then, and say now, (hat as an origin. il question, the authority of congress

to exercise live revenue power, w ith direct

reference to the protection ol mamuartnres,

a .picstionnble auinority, far more ques

tionable, in my judgment, llian the power

d lii'crnal improvements. 1 must conies--,

ir, that in one respect, some impression ias been made on my opinions lately. Mr.

Madison's publication has put the power

in a very strong light, lie has pi need it,

I must acknowledge, upon ground-, of con

struction and arguments, which seem iin-

u-egnable. loit, even if the power weie louhtful, on (he face of the Constitution it

self, it had been assumed and asserted iu

tho first revenue law ever passed under teat same Constitution ; and, on this ground,

as a matter settled by contemporaneous practice, 1 had refrain.' d from cxprcsin (he opinion that the tariff laws transcended constitutional limits, as the gentleman .-I ii i

supposes, wirat i otd say ei i .imu u Hall, as far as I now reni'-nuor, was, ihat this was originally matter of doubtful eon- . . . - . , . ...

struct ion. J lie gentleman Ionised, l sup

pose, thinks there is no doubt about it. and

that the laws are plainly against the I onstitution. Mr. M:ul;.-oiYs letters, already

referred to, contain, in my j'.dgmet.l, by fir the most able exposition extant of this

part of the Constitution. He has sntisln il me, so far as the prac tice of the govern

ment had left it an open .paction.

AViili a rcat majority "1 Ihe representa- . . i - .,t.

tives of Massachusetts, 1 voiou against int

tariff of lN'g 1, My reasons were then giv -

en, and I will not now repeat them. lut.

not withstanding our dissent, the great states-

nf New York, IVnnsylvanla, Ohio, ami Kentucky went for the bill, in almost unbroken column, and it passed. Congress ami the president sanctioned it, ami it became the law of the land. What then wi re we to do? Our only option was, either to lull iu with this tettlod couio of public.