Terre Haute Evening Gazette, Volume 6, Number 211, Terre Haute, Vigo County, 18 February 1876 — Page 2
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LOST—Foe)««•Cnerry.onPilthSt.,
Wside.
fcooli containing about S3
The ok v?ai lost i.et e»ra JMUIOSTV AND Tbe finder will BE lewnrdect by returning lr- to Mrs. J-- ne Merrisan, west slda Filth St., betiveen r»ni-1,-ny and Cherry.
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W ANTED.
\rr ANTED—Situation to work in a pri vate lamliy by glr' 15 yeaisold. Call at the tlfth house suth of Swan, v.'e.st side of First street
WANTED—Anybody:scissors
•who WIIQ sees a
\NTEP—A first class
coot?, on
WANTED—Experienced
WANTMft aeflluK Prize Pack ages in the world. Single package, with elegant prize, postpaid, 25 cents. For other novelties send stamp. Address, F. P. GLl/CK, New Bedford, Mass.
FOE SAL£.
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70R8ARE-An account of 825 against l'Humas H. iwans, iorm«rly of Tend .Haute,an ex-coal deaier ai,d an embryo edlt"r, aow in retirej.eut. A liberal discount lor cash.
I/OR SALE—A merchant, mill wiih i? three run of buns. Is in a good wheat coui.try. For jarticulars addiess. A. ilalteman, 1611 Jackson street, tst. Lt/uis, Mo. s, OR BA LE—AW heeler S Wilson Sewine Machine, almost new and lately put In perfect order and as good as new, it will be sold at a baigaln. if or prrtioulars nquireaithis ofiice
FOR SALE OK TEADB.
47OR SALE OR TRADE—A half lute rest in a coal mine at Hartford, Ind. Tije oal has been tested and founu to be tfie best, in the west for smelting purposes, blanksmithing, and lor making coke, itnd stands a very lair chance of being used by the new gas company on account of its excellent qualities ior 8°^ burring gts. A one-nalt inteiest will be traded or sold lor a house and lot in town. Address through postofflce, Jas S Wyetu.
FOR
SALE OR TRADE-A four-year mare, young and in goud condition. Will be so cheap or traded fr a vacant lot in the city. For fur her particulars inquire of Wm. Joab, corner 01 Fourteenth aud Sycamore str ets.
FOE RENT OR SALE.
FOR
RENT OR SALE—Houses and lots in various parts ot the city. Houses are from two to nine rooms each^and are f.ood conoltion. Wm Joab, corner amore streets.
FOR
nc rooms eacu auu mo nApply immediately to •of Fourteenth and Syc-
RENT OR SALE—A good house of 9 rooms, suitable for boarding, oood «ut buildings, etc Apply on the premises, on Ohio, between First and Second treeta
FOE TEADE.
^OR TRADE—A vaoant lot, 100 leet, on South Filth stieet, between Wilson and Crawford sttetts, tor a nousu and lot on Fifth or Sixth street-, between uhlo and Crawford streets, vtortn five or six thousand dollars, tbe difference paid in cash inquire at this office.
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^OR TRADE-Some town property in Coffeeville, Monteomery county, Kan •as. It is a sroie use and dwelling .use. 1^' Is valuable and clear of incumbrance. Wll be traded for property here In
Terr®jj^^'ejJIATTIE
FOR
A.McMONISLE,
Sixth honee east Of Sixth (No. 76), south side of 3bestnut street.
FOE BENT.
FOR
RENT—A two story brick store room and dwelling three roonjs above and back kitchen. Call on Wol.a on the prem ses, comer of Eleventh anu Fop* larstieets.
RENT—House with fiverooms, fcltci ei', cellar, we 1 »"d slste»r» on Sooth Fourth si ret, mar Oak. Good bouse and good neighborhood. Ir^ulre at the Southeast corner of Swan and Six and a half streetF, at.
FOR
loca
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ed, provided with the best
venti atlon and water from the water works mains. Apply to E Ot.m, Main St.
7«R Rt-NT—«•» the corat ofFir^t and Mulberry, iwo.Tooms tnrnisbed or not -Jurnlt-hf-d, with, or without aid Call on the premises aud see Mrs. R. Scott.
CiORRENT— Houses in diflercnt parts of of the city. Also for trade, a four-year-Ola mare lor a vacant lot or pheton. Ia.qTxlreotWm, Joab, corner of Fourteenth and Sycamore streets.
FOBTeasonttble.
551».TTDT[eUlllB frouse. West side of Fifth street, second house south tf Locust eight rooms, well, oistern, Ao Rent Inquire at the Ht. Charles Hotel.
ffe ,0'S 2-J
everybody
sees a grinder on
tho street to send him to the GAZETTE ntrice, The teeth ol our voracious newsjedltoi's shears ne2d sharpening.
CTA vrtOD—A FARM—The undersigned W wishes to rent a far»«. He has a od I team, and can raa.ke it profitab f«»r both part'.ts Apply to W. H. Cook, City.
South I
Sixth Btreet, first house south of Swan, east Highest wages paid
4 hA ANTED—Washwoman at jbeNational House.
WANTED—To
know the whereabouts of
omas Evans, a retired coal-opera-
lor and journalist.
millinery men
who have a trade in Indiana iinois, bv an old and establishtd house, who are'opening a new house in Indianapolis. Address Griffith Bros., Dayton, O.
WANTED—Everybody
to know that
Mrs. U. A. Beard is prepared to make boys suits. Work promptly done and sat isfaction guaianteed. Prices very cheap. Call at the soutn west corner of Third and Swan streets.
WANTED—Boardwboneed
by a gentleman In a
private family a piano and ure willing to lot the board apply towards
naying
lor same.
Th-
rally
WANTED—A
place must be cen-
located. Address, stating terms and ocallty, Postofflce box 1902, city.
WANTED—A
purchaser for a Wbealer
& Wilson Sewing Machine. It is a bargain. Inquire at mis office* IT ANTED—TWO gentlemen can obtain
VV first-class board, in private latniiy, applying at No. 43 South F.'lth street.
WANTED-A
GENERAL. AGENT—For
the New Family and No. 6 aud No. Rotary-Hook, Lock stitch Wheeler & Wilson Sewing Macnines. A good chance for the right man. For terms, Ac., apply to J. X. Grayson, at Terre Haute House.
lirANTED—Washing and ironing. ApW ply to Mrs. Floriey East side of Twelftn sired, soutn of Main.
position as housekeeper,
by an experiotd person. Appty at he sixth house north of Locust, on lhird ^•reet.
Wtins
ANTED—Asd sors gr nuer to call at office. We haveu't heard that ne's anlta ian Count, and tie needn't Cwiiut ou It so IUUUU a» upon netting some scissorj to grind. References given and required. The scissors and YE GAY GAJSBTTEKK say come, anu, giiuder, do you come quicKly.
WANTED—AdsituationbyA.B.,
a young man
willing to anythi g. Bdst ot references given. Addiess,C. this office
WANTED—Situation
at light work by
a man competent and tellable. Address J.Y. Beau, P. O. Box 6M City. \K, ANTED-Everybody to know that
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Chestnut sfc'eet, between .SixIn -•eventli streets
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CONSIDERABLE .«pace is given in to-day's GAZETTE to the deposition of the President in the Bibcock case which we print in full. It was read in the court yesterday. Tbe day previous it bad been stolen ir.m the clerk's desk in St. Louis, copied, and sent by telegraph to the Chicago Times, in which paper it appeared yesterday, and prior to its presentation to the court. From that paper we have taken it. It is a long but interesting document, and we coinmend it to the perusal of the GAZETTE readers.
3ABOOOK.
Continuation of the Testimony in His Case
A LETTER CAIIRIER WHO MAKES A STARTLING REVELATION,
Concerning the Letters of Joyce to Avery and Rabcock.
DEPOSITION OF THE I'RESIuENT IN FULL.
It Was Stolen by a R- porter and Telgnplied to the Chicago Tilling Boforc Kead to tbe C«ui t.
St. Louis, Feb. 17.—The defense then introduced two lettprs from I) puty Commissioner H. C. Rogers to Gen. John McDonald, dated respectively Washington, March 3d and March 22d, 1875, to show as counsel said that as late as the date of theso letters there was no suspicion of Gen. McDonald either by Rogers or tho department. The first letter neks in behalf of Rogere and Commissioner Douglass, that McDonald wi find a place as Deputy Collector in Arkansas or elsewhere for a young man well qualifiad for such position and states that suuh lavor on the part of McDonald will De an accommodation to a member ot the cabinet. Tbe other letter refers to tne probability of tho appointment ol Mr: Douglass to the Judgship or the Court of Claims and solicits McDonald's influence in his behalf lor a place to bo made vacant by the retirement of Douglsss* This letter was referred to by Rogers in his testimouy. *E. A. Warner, cas'iier of the Liindell hotel testified that Hotre was at that hotel in November, 1874.
Gen S Full«rton, a lawyer of this citv, testified to knowing Babcock in the army dnring the late war, and since then in Washington. His reputation was good:
Three gentlemen connecfcpd with the postoffice of this city testified as to the street lelter box svstem here, stating that it was unsafe to drposit valuable letters in the boxes, and th»t the public had been repeatedly cautioned against doing so, but there was no rule or regulation prohibiting it.
The defense then introduced several letters from Joyce to BaK'Ock written at different times from 1870 to 1873 some of them enclosed editorials written by Jovce and published in the St. Joseph (Mo.) Herald, on San Domingo affairs, and were designed to show bis influence on political mattsrs another from Little Rock spprised Babcock of the elec:ion of Powell Clayton as United States Senator, and stated that bis eleetion would carry Arkansas for Grant, and another enclosed a resolution to the memory of Charles W. Ford, which was adopted at a public meeting here, soon after that gentleman died. The answers to these letters were then produced and read, also two or three others. All of these letters are of a social nature. They indicate that the writers of them are on friendly terms, but contain no allusion whatever to any matters or anything counected with the revenue affairs.
C. C. Dickinson, Chief Clerk of First Comptrollers office, public buildings and
grounds,
underHabcock, was then
called to identify for tbe prosecution, the siguature of George L. Joyce, doorkeeper of the President's mansion, to whom tbe dispatch of April 23d, 1875, addressed to Babcock, was traced, but they tailed to satisfactory identity bis signature.
The Court then ruled on the three, dispatches which have been held in reserve tor two or three days. The following were admitted:
St. Louis, Dec. 3, 1674.
To Gen. O. E. Babcock: Has the Secretary or Commissioner ordered anybody here? [Signed] J.
The following two were then ruled out: "Washington, Dec. 5, 1874. "To John A. Joyce. St. Louis: •'Cannot bear that any one has gone, or is going. [Signed] O. E. BABCOCK." "St. Louis, April 23, 1875.
,4To
F. V. BischoMPKI
RENT-BKD ROOMS-Six nice com fori able bed roome, for youlic men Centrally
Gen. O. E. Babcock, Washington, D. C.: "Tell Mc. to see Parker, of Colorado, and telegaph to commissioner. Crash out St. Louis enemies. [Signed] GRIT."
Regarding the last dispatch tbe court Haid: Altbotigh it was admitted to be in tbe handwriting of Joyc°, and that it had been sent over the wires, there was no proof that the defendant had ever received it, or if he did receieve it tbat be knew from whom It came, and there was no proof that it waa ever answered.
James Magill, a letter carrier, then testified: In the latter part of February, 1875, I was coming down Pine street, near Fifth, when Mr. Joyce accosted me and said that tbere were two letters in the street letter- box which he wished to get back, ancMie pointed to the box on the sont weftLcornOr of Filtb and Pine. I asked Colw^
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Joyce
to describe the letters before I^jgftned the box. He.said that one waa
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corner, and tho other ~ns to O. ZS. Babcock, Wa3hinjrton, D. C., also marked "personal." I opened the box although it was out of my district, and searched among the letters, and found the two, and handed them to Colonel Joyce.
Storrs: Did you get a receipt? Witness: No sir. Storrs: Isn't it customary?
Witness: Yes, it is. I said, look hero Colonf'l, I want a receipt if you want to put them in the mail again, I will go with you and see it done.
Storrs: What did he say? Witness: He said "oh, that's all right—hunkidori," or something like that. Its only a blind.
Storrs: Ic is frequent to give letters back? Witness: No, sir.
S orrs: You sometimes do? Witness: On a business route it is frequent that letter* are put in and the parties forget an enclosure or something like that and they are returned to them.
Storrs~Did y-.u report that matter to tho postoffict-? Witness—No sir.
Storrs—Whv? Witness—Well, I thought it was so frivolous that there wasn't any need of saying anything about it.
Storrs—Did you usually report? Witness—I usually carried blanks which I had parties sign who wanted letters back, and then I compared the writing.
Storrs—How did you happen to remember the time that this occurred? Witne-s—I was bouse burning about that time I had been looking around for four or five days for a house. I had just been to the Polytechnic looking tor a man who I beard had a bouse was on my way down to make a collection. It was my day to collect for seven other carriers.
The cross examination of this witness was long, sharp and thorough. The witness had been a mail carrier for five years, and never gave letters to Col. Joyce at any other time. It was a frequent thing to return letters on the business routes recollected the circumstances particularly, because it was oft his beat had opened boxes frequently on tbe business street, and returned letters, but could not recollect the names of any persons for whom be had done it. When pressed very hard the witness said he bad returned a letter to George W. Fishback, and had returned to many business houses on Main street, but could not swear to any particular firm. He was repeatedly pressed to recollect the namo of anybody else for whom he hid taken letters out of boxes, but be could not remember one. He carried tbe receipts with him when be gave the letters to Joyce, but Joyce refused to give him a receipt, saying "oh that's all right" "hunkidori' or something of that sort: It's only a blind it occurred on ,he last day of Fdbuary, 1875, about one o'clock P. M-: did not tell tbe postmaster about tbe matter, nor any one else about the ofiice mentioned tbe matter first last Saturday night to his wife had been reading the papers tLe testimony ot Mr. Everest about putting the letters in the box. and recol'ected he had given Joyce just such letters, ruminated over the uiattor a while, then told his wite the next evening, Sunday after going off of duty went to tbe Ltudell hotel, saw Gen. Babcnck. to|d him the circumstances and Babcock sent him to Judge Porter, to whom he repeated his story. He gave full details of the matter to no one but Storrs and Porter outside of his own family. Noonebad been to see him about it. Before he went to the Lindel Hotel he consulted with no one but his wife. He repeated tbe addresses of letters given to Joyce as Gen. O. E. Babcock aud Col. W. O. Averv. He would not admit he had talked about the matteir to anybody except
letter carriers at the post
office to-day. Colonel Dyer pressed him very hard, but he would not acknowledge that he had any intercourse or conversation with any other than those mentioned above. Witness then went into a long account of his various occupations sinca he had lived in the city, but gave nothing more bearing on the case. It is understood the prosecution will offer te3timonv in rebuttal of this evidence to-morrow.
THE PRESIDENT'S DEPOSITION. The following is the President's deposition in full, as filed in tbe Umted States Circuit Court in the case of Babcock:
In the Circdit Court of the United States. Eastern District of Missouri. Tbe United States vs. OrvilleE. Babcock. Transcript of stenographer's notes of tbe desposition of U. S. Grant for the defendant, taken at Washington, February 1876.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BV MR COOK. Questi n. How long have you known Gen. Babcock, and how intimately? Answer. I have known him since i863. We first met during the Vicksburg campaign, in that year. Since March, 1864, I have known him intimately.
Q. Please state in what various ca pacities be has been employed, aud what positions he has held since 1863. A. From about March, 1864, to the 4th of March, 1869, he was aid-de-camp on my military staff. Since that time up to the time of his indictment he has been acting as my private Secretary, and, in addition to that, for several years he has been Superintendent of public buildings and grounds.
Q. As your private Secretary, please state what were his general duties A. His general duties were to carry all communications from the President to Congress, to ha-"e charge and supervision over all of his correspondence, and in his capacity as private Secretary he received tny mails, opened my letters, and read them. In regard to many ot tbem he gave directions to tbe department witb reference to me. and such as required any dictation or answer from me he submitted to me.
Q. His relations with you wore confidential? A. Very. Q. Do you know whether during tho period of time that Gen. Babcock has been your private Secretary he has been frequeutly'applied to by persons throughout tbe country to lay their special matters before you or before the several departments? A. That was the frequent, and you might say almost daily, occurrence.
Q. In what manner, BO far as you have observed witb reference to the interests, has Gen. Babcock discharged hisdnttesas your private Secretary? A I have always regarded as most efficient and most faithfnl.
Q. Now state, if you please, what his general reputation is, and has been. A. I have always supposed it to be good. If twelve'years' intimate association with a man gives one an opportunity of judging what other people think of him. I certainly have bad a good opportunity not only of knowing his character myself, bat of knowing the reputation be sustnins.
Q. nd from tho«e opportunities what has been his reputation? A. good.
Q. Were you acquainted with C. W. Ford of St. Louis, in Iii9 lifetime, and what, if anv,position he hold at the time of his deatx.? A. I was intimate-? ly acquainted with Mr. Ford.
State what, it any, applications were made at the time of bis decease as to the appointment of his successor.
A. It will be impossible for me to rpmember all of tbe applications that were made for the pl-iCf. I do remember, however, of Gen. B*bcoCk-bring-ing me a dispatch that was addressed to him fr.un John A Joyce, pract ical-
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pointmentoi Mr. Ford's successor oaauating from his surities. hen Gon. Babcock shovred me that dispatch from John A. Joyce, I said to him that Mr. Ford having died very suddenly and away from home, I should be guided" largely in selecting his successor by the recommendations or wishes of his bondsmen that I thought thev were entitled at least to approve of the appointment of the man who should go in and settle up the affairs of his office.
Q. Whom did the bondsmen actually recommend? [Objected to as incompetent and irelevent] A. Constantino Maijuire.
Q. Did Gen. Babcock, in any way, dii-ectly or indirectly, urge, or request, or seek to influence tbe appointment of Mr. Maguire, or did he ever exchange a word with you on the subject which indicated that he desired his appointment?
A. I do not think he ever did. I do not think that he was aware of the existence of Constantino Maguire before his recommendation.
Q. Are the telegrams now showu you, the ones received in relation to the appointment of Mr. Maguire?
A. I have no doubt that these are the dispatches, or copies of the dispatches, that I received, or if not, telegrams similar in tenor to those were received. [The papers were marked exhibits Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.]
There is a letter, Mr. President, connected with these telegrams, dated Jan. 4,1876, from D. D. Pratt, Commissioner. Will you be kind enough to explain how that letter was received by you, and what "^nnection it had with the telegrams?
A. The note from the Commissioner of Internal Revenue is in answer to a request for tne to bo furnished with the telegrams recommending Mr. Maguire to the office of Collector.
Q, Did Gen, Babcock, so far as you know, ever seek, in any way, to influ ence your action in reference to any charges made or proposed to be made against Joyce or McDonald, or either ef them?
A. Do not remember of his ever speaking to me on the subject at all. He certainly took no lively interest in the matter, or I should have remember it,
Q. Did General Babcock. so far as you know, ever seek to influence your acvion with reference to an investigation of alleged whisky frauds in St. Louis or elsewhere? A. He did not. Possibly, I might state here,right here, that I remember but one instance ol bis ever talking to me at all about the matter of the investigations, except since he has been indicted, and then it was simply to say to me that he had asked Mr. Douglass why it was that they threatened all their officials, as though they were dishonest persons, by sending spiea to watch them, and asking them why they could not make inspections somewhat as they do in tbe army—send a man of character into their distilleries aud take their books and make a report that could be relied upon—and believe tnat he simply told me that be had said this to Mr. Douglass.
Do you remember tbe circumstance of General McDonald,s being in the city ot Washington on the 7th of December, 1874? A. I do not remeniberthe particular date. I remember the time in question.
Q. Did you ride with him on or about that date or occasion, and was anything said by him to you with referenco to the' investigation of alleged frauds in this district? A. I did pick him up on the sidewalk, as I was taking a drive, and invited bim to get in and drive with me. I have no recollection of a single word of conversation on any mattertouching his official position or business.
Q,. 'Did General Babcock, at or about that time, say any thing to you with reference to such investigation, or, to your kuowledge, did he in any way undertake to prevent them? A. I have no recollection of bis saying any thing about that. He certainly did not intercede with me to prevent them.
Q. Do you remember the circumstance of the promulgation of an order transfering tbe virious supervisors from their own to other districts? A. I do.
Q. State fully with whom the idea upon which that order was based, originated, and tbe particulars of teasonswhich induced you to direct it. A. Some time wuile Mr. Richardson was Secretary of the Treasury,I think,—at all events before Mr. Bristow became Secretary of the Treasury—Mr. Douglass expressed the idea to me that it would be a good plan to occasionally change the supervisors around from one district to another, and I expressed myself favorably to it but it wss not done then, and not thought of any more by me, but when it became very evident that the Treasury was being defrauded of the revenue that it shonld receive from tho distillation of spirits in the west, Secretary Bristow called on me and made a general statement of his suspicions, and I then suggested to him this idea. On that suggestion the order making these transfers was made. At that time I did not under stand that there was any suspicion at all of the officials, but I knew that each one of the officials had his own way of transacting bis business, that t&ese distillers, having so much pecuniary interest in deceiving the officials, would learn their ways, and learn how to evade them, and my idea was that by putting new supervisors, acquainted with their duties, over them, their crooked ways could be detected. These are the views I had, and the reason I suggested the change.
Q. Can you state whether Mr. Douglass, at that time, commissioner of Internal Revenue, was aware of the fact that you bad suggested or made the order? A. I do not know.
So far as you personally know? A. I do not know that he knew anything about it. tj. After the order had been finally issued, were any efforts made to induce you to direct its revocation or BuspenBion? A. Most strenous efforts were made.
Q. Were such efforts made by prominent public men? A. They were. Q. Did you resist the pressure that was made upon you ior the revocation or suspension of the order, and if j^ou finally decided to direct the revocation of that order, will you please state why voa were induced to do so, and by whom? A. I resisted the effort to have the order revoked until I became convinced that it should be revoked or suspended in tbe interest of defeating frauds that bad already been committed. My recollection is that I wrote the directions for tbe order on a card in pencil, certainly before leaving my oflfto that afternoon, and on that the order went to the Treasury, signed by one ot my secretaries.
Q. Did General Babcock ever, in anv way, directly or indirectly, seek to influence your action in reference to that order? I do not think he ever did. I do not remember him ever speaking to me about it, or exhibiting any interest in the matter.
Has General Babcock, so far as you know, or.apy one_for him, undertaken to prevent a full, or any investigation, of bis alleged connection with what is known as the whisky ring at 8.. Louis or elsewhere? A. To my knowledge he has not. Gen. B"bcock has complained very bitterly of his treatment after the speech ot Mr. Henderson in the Avery trial was deuver ed.
Q. Since bis indictment, has aay effort been made to yovr knowledge, to
bis trial? A.
Q. Has Gen. Babcock, so far as you know, ever used any effort with your-
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Q. Speaking of C. W. Ford, I pre suine, General, t'^.at your confidence in him continued up to the time of bis deatb? A. I never had a suspicion that anvtbing was wrong.
Q. Did you regard bis knowledge of men and affairs in St. Louid as trustworthy? A. I had as much confidence in bim that way as any man I knew in St Louis.
Q. When did you cease to reside in Sr.. Louis, General? A. In May, 1860.
Q. From 1860 down to the time of
wa also in St. LouU? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did vou have private correspondence with Mr. Ford during tbe time that he was collector? A. I did.
Q. Did you preserve that correspondence? A. No, I never kept a copy ot a letter that I sent to him in my iife,
pointment, but my .recollection is that be afterward acquiesed in it, and possibly either joined in the recommendation, which was a written one and will be on the file in the Treasury Department, or else he told me in a conversation.
T?fgS
to
so
prevent
nnding of indictments against any person suspHcted of complicity witb tbe whisky ring at St. Louis? A? NO. otnee the finding of the indicttp^hn
i!sai,,8t lbese
persons, has Gen.
'ar.as you know, ever ex-
nwinf desire to interfere with or tbat trial, or exhibited any inJ"illinth8t direction? A. Not to my knowledge. £ntli0
inquiry
was called at Gen. Babcock's request, f-1 «n0t
un(]Hr8tood
as
by yourselt, and,
y°u know,by him, that no in-
dictments would be found against him? A did not you so understand? ni 'Vdlctments had been found ht!
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8UPP°sed
none would
be, because I understood from the Attorney General that the Grand Jury, which was then in session, would adjourn in a day or two. That was the only course left to him then, apparoutm° ti^ne he made the request.
that G«n. Babcock
could have no other way of vindicating himselt? A. I so understood it. Q. Was it not called very soon after he was informed that he could not be beard as a witness in the Avery case? A. It was.
Q. Do you know whether he was anxious to appear as a witness in that case? A. I can not say any further than his dispatch to the District Attorney asking to be heard.
Q. Do you know whether ho did dispatch to the District Attorney for the purpose of being witness to the case? A. I know he must have done so, because I saw the answer which he received from tbe District Attorney.
Q. Have you ever seen anything in the conduct of Gen. Babcock, or has be ever said anything to you, which indicated to your mind that he was in any way interested in, or connected with, tbe whisky ring at St. Louis or elsewhere? A. Never.
Q. In what manner, as regards the public interests and as evincing his fidelity and integrity, has he performed bis duties as your private Secretary? A. Always to my entire and full sat isfaction.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. EATON. Q. General, ot course, you do not suppose, do you, that while Gen. Babcock has been your private Secretary and in intimate and confidential relations with you, any one would voluntarily come to you with statements injurious to his reputatiou? A. I do not know any such thing.
Q. Perhaps you are aware, General, that the whisky ring have persistently tried to fix the origin of that ring in the necessity for funds to carry on the political campaigns' Did you ever have any intimation from Gen. Bobcock, or any one else, in any manner, directly or indirectly, that any funds for political puposes were being raised by any improper methods? A. I never did. I have seen since thc-tp trials intimations of that sort in the ^.vspapers. but never before.
Q. Then let me ask you if the prosecuting officers have not been entirely correct in repelling all insinuations that you ever had tolerated any such means for raising funds? A. I was not aware that they attempted to ropel anv insinuations
Do you remember whether John A. Joyce was recommended to you as Ford's successor by General Babcock? I prosecutions have commenced.
telegraph to Joyce to get the
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nomination of Mr. Ford's successor to his bondsmen was became thev worn liable on his bond for the administration of his office, was it not? A Yea sir. Farther than that, some of them were men that I knew very well and had great confidence in. A. I do not remember such a letter. It such a one was reieived, it ig doubt 011 file in tho Treasury Department. Such a protest ma3' have Peen received.
Q. Your purpose in lsaving the Q. Speaking ot Ford's objection to McDonald, were you are aware that in the matter ol' education McDonald, when he was appointed, was an ignorant man barely able to write bis name?
A. I was aware that he was not an educated man, but be was a man that had seen a great deal of the world and of people, and I would not call him ignorant exacty he was illiterate.
Q. Did you receivo a protest against McDonald's appointment signed by Oarl Schurtz, G. A. Finklenburg, R. Van Horn, ane other men in Missouri?
A. I do not remember. It is a matter of record it it was received. I do not know that it would have bad any porticular weight with me if I had received it, bis indorsements being good.
Q. Was not that objection baseii OM the ground of his entire unfitness for the place? A. I do not remember if it was received. It is no doubt a matter of record and can be obtained.
Q. Did you ever see the paper now shown you? If so, state in whose handwriting it is.
A. As to the handwriting I do not pretend to be an expert. I have had a great many_ letters from Mr. Ford. That looks like his signature. I do not remember to have ever seen that before, and I do not think I ever did.
Q, Do you know the other signature to the paper. A, No, 1 know all the parties, but I do not know their signa tures.
Q. Do you remember at this distance of time on whose recommendation Mr. Joyce was appointed? A. My recollection is that when McDonald was appointed supervisor he asked tbe Commissioner of Internal Revenue to give him an assistant from his office some man who was acquainted with the duties.
Did you know at the time daring the fall of 1875. subsequent to your visit to St. Louis, Genral Babcock correspoded witb John McDonald after tbe latter was indicted, and sent bis letters to McDonald under cover to Majer E. B. Grimes?
A. No, I was not aware of it at the time. Q. Did you know at the time that Gen. Babcock sent cipher dispatches to Maj. Luckey, at St. Louis, over his own and over a fictitious signature, on the 17th or 18th of last November? A. I do not remember as to particular dates, but we have an Executive Mansion cipher so that when myself aud Secretaries are separated, dispatches can be sent without being read by the operators. I know in a general way that they were corresponding while Mr. Luckey was there during the Avery trial, he having gone there, as 1 understood, as a witness.
Q. Did you see the dispatches before they were sent? A. I do not think saw the dispatches.
Q. Have you any objections to sta ting in that cipher of two words only, the words "Hamlet" and "Bandage?" A. I never keep tbe cipher, and I never write a cipher dispatch. I never travel without having a Secretary with me.
Q. You do not know what those words mean? A. I do not know. When I want to send a dispatch in cipher, I give it to one of my Secretaries in the ordinary form, and he transmits it,
Q. On or about Dec. 5,1873, did Gen. Baocock show you a dispatch from
f»yce
Mr. Ford's death Mr. Ford's residence tbere any bitch in sending Maguire's name to the Senate? JOYCE." A. lean not remember particularly. I think, however, Gen Babcock did ask me if
wanted to be Ford's succcssor. My re I Brooks to deputy Commissioner Rogply to him was that I should be I (objected to by council for de« guided largely in selecting! endant.) A. I do not remember the successor of Mr, Ford by the re- I dates, but I remember of his showing commendation of his bondsmen, be me a letter that had been handed to having died suddenly, unexpectedly, him by somebody in Philadelphia to and away from home, I thought tbey Mr. Rogers, and said that appeared were entitled to be at least -consulted
Q. Did Ge" Babcock, at that time., show vou a dispatch trom Joyce in these words:
St. Louis, Oct. 28.1873.—See dispatch to the
President,
to
We mean it. Mum. JOYCE.
A. I do not think that my memory
goes back to that time. Since thfee prosecutions were commenced I have 8e«n that.
Q, I am asking you in regard to that.time. A. 1 do not call it to memory.
Q, Did you receive a protest against htt appointment of_Oo"gtanJne Ma-
to himself, in these words: "Is
there was any reason why Maguire's name should not be sent. I have an indistinct recollection of his asking me the question.
Q. You have said that you resist
Q. Did you preserve letters that you ed the pressure brought to bear upon received from him? A. No, sir I did you by prominent public men, in renpt preserve these. We corresponded gard to the suspension or revocaregularly because I had such confidence in him that I left him to conduct my own affairs there, and I bad to be constantly sending bim money. I would send a check ot $500, #1,000. $1,200 at a time, and he would pay out tbe money and account to me for it. My con fidence in him was such that I did this without even saving the letters.
tion of the order transferring supervisors. If you have no objection, will you please state tbe names of those prominent men who brought that pressure to bear upon you? A There were many persons, and thing I could give tbe names of sev eral Senators and probably members
Q. Do you remt-mber a letter of Mr. of Congress, bnt probably I should Ford to yourself dated May 30,1876 which be spoke of McDonald as "a bad egg," and as saying to you that he was a discredit to the administration.
Answer. I have no recollection of such a letter. I have an indistinot recollection that when McDonald was first recommended for tbe position he told me, either in a letter or in a conversation that McDonald would not do. My recollection is that finally be united with others in recommending McDonald. I have a genoral knowl
have to refer to papers that are on file. 1 do not know that it is mate** rial. I know that tbe pressure was continual from the supervisors and tbeir friends.
Q. Can you, from memory, me any Senators or Representatives? A I could name two or three, but I do not believe that it is neoessary.
Mr. Eaton—I will not press it then. Q. Will
edge that about tbe time McDonald er Gen. Babcock showed you, on or was being pressed for tbe appointment about the time of its date, a dispatch Ford thought it was not a suitable ap- to him in these words:
death of Ford and the appointment of I "®nce with Joyce1 about the transfer Constantino Maguire touching Joyce's I supervisors. A. I know that he fitness for the place? A Babcock pre- received frequent letters from Joyce, sented me a dispatch that he had re-I for I saw a number of tbem myself, ceived from Joyce, saying that he was Dkj you have any connection with an applicant, or making application for Ofinprai Babcock nrior tn M«v IA-K it. I do not remember the wording of it. The substance of it was that be j®^ter
you please to state wheth-
St. Louis, Feb. 3,1875 —Gen O. E. BABCOCK, Executive Mansion, Washington, D. C.: We have official information that the enemy weakens. Push things.
bis judgement to be simply black-
as to the successor who should settle mailing, and I think that was tbe
advise Gen. Bibcock to «oc^nfl^j?ic^ne,told what
bonds-
^stored to Douglass, lhatisas
men of Ford to recommend Joyce for I wmemb.r now. Collector? A. I made the same state- *•-iwy'»u remember Gen. Babmentin substance that I have given in cock, prior to May, 1875, talked with answer to a former queston. Whether you about the propriety of sendiug I told him to do so by telegraph or not detectives into the peveral distriots it would be impossible for nie to say to detect frauds? A. I do not. I rem
That might be regarded as at least au- ember of his telling me, at-oiie time tbority to so tele*r*pb.
of what
Q. Did you see any telegram of that nouelaiw h.it tho. iS
character from B.boo.k J„yc» ». t°„ that timet A. I do not rememoer to have seen ary« :v.
nroDo«ed to Mr.
!t
remember, and that was not a sug gestion to me, it was merely telling me what he had suggested to Mr. Douglass,—and this is tbe same that I have before stated
Q. -Do you remember when that conversation wa-? A. No, Idonot. My recollection is that he bad shown
that
letter to Mr. Douglass before he
had to me, and that was the occa Bion wheu he told mc of *.bis suggestion.
Q. Did Gen. Babcock, about the time of its date, show you a dispatch In these words:
St. mis, Oct. 25, 1S74, -Gen.
"»ri-W-,"\
ant
anything
A, Idonot remember about it. Q. Did Gen. Babcnck, at or about the time of its date, show you a dispatch in the following \rorJs'
St. Louis, April, 23, 1875.—Gen. O, E. Babcock, Execulive Mansion, Washington, D. C.: Tell Mack to sec Parker, of Colorado, and telegram to commissioner. Crush out St. Louis
e7*ies.
GRIT.
to
counsel
defend-
Hm' ^en Babcock, at any it flnLi ^ou 'le endeavored to I
ommi9
sioner Douglass to
revoke that ordet? A. No. ,,
yo"be
so
It
good as to states-'
any°f1,i9fri«nds,
for bim,
have, at any ume since theBe indictments were found, endeavored to prevent the rial of the indictments against him, or any other of the indieted parties, aud if so, please statp who have made such efforts A Thpy have not with me.
Will vou please state why the the order for the court of inquiry in Gen. Babcock's case was made be fore the adjournment of the grand ju ry which grought the indictmen' against him if you know? A, it was made because he applied for it, and I though! he was clearly entitled to vindicate himself—if he was innocent. Hf had been denied that opportunity be« fore the grand jury.
Q. Did Gen. Babcock show you .« telegram from Dist. Atty. Dyer, saying that the next conspiracy cast would be tried ou Dec. 15, 1875? A He did. I do not remember abou the date particularly,
Now,-1 suppose, Mr. President that the substance of your testimony is what we all know to be true—thai if there has been any misconduct ot the part of Gen. Babcock, it has no come to your knowledge? A. Ye? sir, that is true.
Q. You do not know of course, you, whether Mr. Douglass suggested to Secretary Bristow tbe same thin about tbe transfer of supervisor: which you say he originally suggest ed to you? A. I do not know any thing about it, except from tbe Sec retary himself.
Q. Do you recollect that Supervis or Tutton was ordeied from Philadelphia to St. Louis, under this or der for transfer*? A. That is my recollection, that he was ordered St. Louis.
Q. You say that Gen. Babcock has made no efforts with you to avoid t. trial, but you do not know, of youi'knowledge, of course, whether ht has made any efforts with otber.v. A. I do not. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR
COOK.
Handing a copy of a telegram tc witness—I wish you would state what you know in relation to that. A. The dispatch seems to dated
Washington, Oct. 27.—To William H. Benton, William McKee, and: John Krum: Your request in re-.: gard to cotlectorsbip will be compoli« ed with. U. S. GRANT.
Those gentleman area part of the bondsmen of Ford, and they bad rec-' omended Constantine Maguire lot Ford's place as coilecto-.
Q. The original of that. I believe i.*in your hand writeing? A. Yes sir 1 wrote that myself: 1 saw the otiginal this morniug. The copy of the talegram above referred to is attached' hereto, and marked "exhibit number 8."
Q. What was the character of the correspondence between Mr. Joyce., and Gen. Babcock as exhioited to yon? A* My answer to that is the same as has been given and objected to. iV I V." 'j
Q. What was the general charao I ter of the explanation of the nat*jr6 of the dispatches to which you',.
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SYLPH
A. I do not remember of ever seeing that dispatch until since these
Bab-
w»4en
by J.J.
a
tention has been direced as r'.ven to? you by Gen. Babcock? A.
ffiie ex
planation which he gave seemed to' me to clear up all grourjtjs
susp
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.In not
iJ
cion against him, Q,. What was t*je general character of those explanations? A. Itwas generally statement of tbeirj meaning, ati'j what they were in response to, but I could not probably give, at t^ia time, his explanation of any one of them.
Q. But the explanations as given! at the time were such as to satisfy you? A, They sefemed to me to be entirely satisfactory.
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