Rising Sun Times, Volume 4, Number 167, Rising Sun, Ohio County, 28 January 1837 — Page 2

for the office of Associate Judge, proved their chums to the office to which they aspired, in their harangues to the people from the stump. The first, supposing that military service was a merit that would entitle him to office, said, among other thing--, "My fellow (citizens, I did not exactly myself serve in the I ite war, hut S had a nephew

Dick Johnson

at tii

s, who was wounded in the

that fought under

river Tliam

ear." The other then mounted toe stump, and said: "Fellow citizens, I was not exactly in the battle of Tippecanoe, but 1 was close at h ind 1 was it Louisville in Kentucky,"1 and then dodged his head, as though he were dodging the- bullets. On this subject, Mr. President, I have been menaced. I have been threatened with political vengeance. Well I know, sir, thai the people of the Rising Sun have a pow er a irrc.it power, and. inli lenceovcr the

citizens of my county ; we

a political bludgeon is now suspc

over me. but, sir, were

considerations than mere expediency, was there no constitutional barrier. I must and will oppose this bill. Must

1 violate mv o alh through fear

the centre, as to create a new pretence for dissatisfaction, and then Lawrenceburgh is again to assert her claim for a re location, and eventually to the county seat, and the holding of courts in her vicinity. Now, sir, the people of Dear

born have settled the question of a relocation from Law renceburgh. The legislature sactioned it. Five sworn

commissioners, resident in other conn-

ties, have fixed it at Wilmington. The circuit court, after solemn argument,

lias decided that Wilmington is the on

ly lawful seat of justice. The Supreme Ch;i! has confirmed that decis- : . i i . a a i I

ion. I Mi.: laws are anoui ro oe an ministered after the long reign of anarchy. Debts can now be collected

I know that

nded

here no other

the

sword of justice ie

dra wn-

thicves are ileeinr peace is begin

ning her happy reign, and the people ab ut to settle down in long-desired tiar.cjuili! v, when lo! the Rising San seizes a fire brand, rushes amid the

peaceful abodes of the people, commits

the greatest number of people; and if the location of the offices, or any other provisions cf the bill, are not such as to

produce that etlect, the bill itselt is in the especial keeping of this House, and they can alter or amend it so as to produce that effect. This bill provides for a State office, with branches at the different important points, to the number of some 30 or 10, with the provision that before this fund can be drawn from the Trea-

one and a half millions of dollars being

many

? Must 1

crouch at the dread of such a menace ? No, sir. And now suffer me to mention the extraordinary management about this bill; not to go into its curious history in the other House, or the legal farce in the committee, here acted over again with pompous declamation. But I will come down to facts that will rivet conviction on every Senator, i venture the assertion that not less than forty representatives have been engaged in endeavoring to ini!ue:;ce the votes of the Senate. Is this a mere conjecture, or is it a fact? Yes, it is a fact, that each one of you have been as sailed, over and over. You have been plucked by the elbow; promises have been whispered in your ears, assur

ances of votes for your dear and favor

ite measures, have been held up as a bait and every one of you that hears me speak, knows that this is the truth. Then this must be some extraordinary affair, to call forth such unusual exertions, to enlist the services cf so many

disinterested advocates. There must

be some great magician behind the cur

tain, and wc liable to be made the

dupes of the deep laid scheme. I admit, sir, that the Rising Sun is a flour

ishing town that its citizens are as re

spcctahleas any community within my

acquaintance. And, further, thai 1

would rejoice at an opportunity to o-

blisje them, liut, sir, this is not the

time. This is not the occasion. Their

demands must have more of rationality

more ot consistency. 1 hev must

not contain the elements of future war

and mischief, to justify tny support

The senator from Lawrence propo

ses that this Senate shall, without

knowledge of the History of Dear born

county, here, by one hasty act, settle

all the disputes, bring up order out c

cnaos, aim matte a lasting peace in Dearborn. It minds me of the two first lines ofa poem by Fesscnden, w hen

I erkms went to Lnglind under the

pretence ot curing all diseases In metalic tractors by rubbing something like a pair of steel compasses over the diseased body: 'Great doctor caustic it a face, Vho-c merit giliis this iron ae." Permit me to give something of its recent history. I admit her quarrels and her troubles to have been of long standing. Two years ago, a great majority of her citizens petitioned for a ic-lo-cation of the county seal. Then 1 opposed it in the Senate. I held it bad policy to m ike changes in county seats, without so.ne great and good cause. The people of lids contemplated nev county then were opposed to Lawrcnceburgb, they were among the petitioners. The bill passed; commissioners were appointed ;lhe count) seat re located at Wilmington. The citizens of Wilmington have, been at the expen-e of building an elegant court house, and other county buildings. The- people of Lawrcncc-burgh resisted. They instituted suits in chance l y to prohibit a removal of the. book-, record-, and a change of the place, of holding courts. A decision was had in

lavor or uaungron. .u appeal is taken from that decision. The Supreme.

Court has decided that Wilmin:.-,n is the county seat the true place oi hold ing courts. In the me in time, these old enemies, I i i reiiccbu igh and the Rising Sun, lo forestall the decision of the Supreme Court, unite, and become friends. Here, sir, is a meretricious union founded not in affection, bottomed not on esteem, but growing out of avarice and lust of power. These old enemies unite their forces, and petition for a new county to include the Rising Sun. So that when the Supreme Court shall h ive settled the old dispute, the formation of this new county will throw Wilmington so far from

irson, ami produces a cor.uagrauou

that consumes and blasts all peaceful

rosrects. The din ofwar is again to

e rung, parties to be formed and rat

ed, and a long, long commotion is to

ensue.

I cannot sit dor,-n without attempt

ing to do ; us! ice to the Senator from

Dearborn, (Mr. lMummer.) He, sir,

lias been uniform in his opposition to (his bill, though he has been patient and y ielding in a degree, to give its friends every opportunity of defending it, and preparing and amending it for defence. lie, sir, in his place tells us

that it is not the wish of a majority of the people cf Dearborn that this bill

should pass. And will we not believe him? We have all tested his integrity

ind firmness his urbanity and good-

1 . . r-

ness. J re has no properly at any ot

ihe contending points, to be increased

or lessened m value, and thereby to

warp his judgment or belief, as to the

wishes of the county. Do the sworn

witnesses stand 1:1 the same altitude?

Phey are men, it is true, whose bare

worus would be enoutia tor me in at

matters that they well understood

in all absolute facts, not mere matter of

opinion where the judgment is ever lia

ble to be warped by interest. But this

is matter of opinion the opinions of

the representatives as to the opinions

of the people and these representa

tives deeply and personally interested

Tw o of them own great possessions, it is said, at Rising Sun. The prospect of fortune biases their opinions, and

may make them think that the great multitude must think with them. Oth

er tw o of them live at Lawrcnceburgb.,

and are (he owners of great real estate there. They all say that they believe the formation of this new county will quiet all disturbances. So it will. It will produce a quiet in their own minds ; each seeing that the measure will add ten thousand dollars orsome great sum to his wealth, feels a composure at the prospect, and feeling so himself, he imagines every body w ill also be contented and happy. It has been admitted

by (he friends of this bill that its passage may eventually disturb the present boundaries of nearly all the counties in the state. Such admission alone is

evidence enough to prove that it is

wrong to pass this bill. To carve out fifty or eighty new counties of four miles square, with a view to enlarge them, would disturb almost every conn ty ,and shake the foundations of every court house in the state. As lovers of peac e, as discouragers of discord, we must oppose it. By our constitutional vows, by every consideration of expedicne), w e are now called upon to vote for the indefinite postponement of this bill.

which presented itself to me as to the

placing it in the Banks, to be by them loaned out as other moneys are, was this, that inasmuch as the Banks have

the power to extend their circulation to 2 1-2 of their real capital, they would not accept Ibis fund, (without placing it on the same footing.) and pay an average cf interest, for a dollar at interest is not worth as much as if you can, on its credit, lean 2 1-2 dollars. The second proposition which presents itself to me, is the keeping it in

the Banks z. separate and distinct fund,

and to be loaned for a greater length of

time on real estate security. The oh- placed in institutions for the purpose of

jection to this is, that it would give the being loaned out to accommodate the Banks greit trouble, which must be wards of lire people, the sum of three

compensated by a tax on the fund it- millions will be applied to that object

self; and it; consequence of there being thereby accommodating a greater mini

so few Barks, it w ould necessarily fall her ol persons. Another important ob

into the hands of the few individuals jeet is attained you place it in all the

located near it, and to the exclusion of business points, and divide it among so

the many. A further objection to both propositions is, that the fund so invested could not nay as great an interest as the one embraced in the bill before the House, and to which I shall hereafter

tlludc, nor would it get as general cir

culation or give as general satisfaction,

provided the Banks would accept it on

those terms.

The third proposition of placing it in

the Banks, is to take an additional a-

mount of stock in the branches already

established. This, sir, can only be

done by granting the privilege to the

Banks to extend their paper circulation

to 2 1-2 of the fund itself. This, sir.

will be necessary to place it on the

fooling of other funds employ ed in the

Banks, and will require an additional

expense in the issue ofa new batch cf

paper, which will be put into circula

tion to accommodate this particular

fund. Now, sir, I am fully persuaded

that the hanks will not accept ot i

even Oil these terms. Sir. if the B nk

wish lo extend their circulating medi

um if they find that more funds are necessary to accommodate the country in which they are located have they not the means of increasing that circu

lation on better terms than to accept

this fund? It is a provision in their

I..:; illative Summary. Ixdiaxatolis, Jan. 14. The disposition of the surplus revenue continues to be a vexed question; the probability, however, is that it will either all be appropriated to the extinguishment of the interest on the State Bonds, or a part of it to this purpose, and a part to purposes of common schools. The bill raising the. salaries of certain officers passed both Houses , r..... k..f ;i , r. ii . .

ury, an equivalent must be subscribed . cm- .

b individuals. 1 hen, sir, instead ofl . . .. V . .

otiices, that a greater nu inner oi

persons are accommodated. "As to the safety of the, fund" it cannot at all be doubted, that a fund of forty thousand

dollars will be safe in the hands of men

who are able to back it by an equal amount; and its security is placed precisely on the same footing with Bank securities, and the interest will proba

bly he about the same. But the great

advantage in this is, that it, in the

greatest possible degree accommodates

the people. I make this assertion, sir, without any fear of contradiction; for,

although it may be argued that by pla

cing it in the hands ofa commissioner

in each county, the people may have, greater access, than if only one office is

established in every two counties, yet fiom the very manner of letting, it will fall into the hands of the few.

Here Mr. James went into detail on

llie operations of the proposed institution."'

Rut, sir, the manner here proposed

to -i,.i the money, while it gives to the

applicant all the advantages he can receive from a loan from a Bank, gives

him the additional advantage of a long

er time. It is a lact well known that

the Banks cannot lend their money on a long time, from the fact that thev

charter,that when the business requires lend more money, or issue more pape

it, they can increase their capital stock MM 1 1 .1

i nis, sir, nas already been llie case with several branches, and as all did

not embrace the oiler to increase their circulation, it is conclusive that all did

nor, want it. Aim, sir, is it at all pro

bable, that while they would not cm

brace an olfer of a fund so permanent,

ttiey would accept of this uncertain

fund?

Another proposition lias been made

to create new brandies of the State

Bank with this fund. '1 he objection

to tins proposition seems (o be the nn r.!. r.. ..i r i . i

i r.i i.miiy oi me uinu iiscu. n is Known

to all of you, that we only exercise the control over this fund; that it belong.

to the general government, and thai the

Secretary ol War has the right to draw

lor it whenever tie pleases. It is true

than thev have specie to redeem, and

the accounts of Banks are always con-

ulereu healthy, w hen their specie and

hills .and notes purchased, balance the notes in circulation. Now, it is self-

evident that if all this paper which they

have put into circulation, should be returned upon them suddenly, they could not redeem it, and would have lo suspend the payment of specie, until thev

could collect their debts. From this

circumstance it is that Bnks cannot

oan money for a long time. Not so

with this institution. They only lend

their own money. 1 hey have no power to issue paper, and consequently no

fear of a ma on them (or specie. J'hey

nd the kind of money they may-

chance to have on hand, and for just such time as suits the borrower. Bv

gentlemen may say that he can only this means, then, you accommodate that

draw tor it on certain conditions. Sir I say he owes no accountability lo us 'PK r., .i. i i i r

a oc ci laci uiiu ne uoes draw, is

conclusive evidence that the Govern

n-.cnt wants the money, and his drafts will be the voucher; and, sir, we may expect that the President elect, if he: finds that public opinion is in favor of

its being applied to some other object

very interest m the blatc. that the

Banks from llie very nature of their

privileges cannot. As to the expense

of managing this fund, great mistakes

filet e Mr. James showed the rela

tive expense of Banks in the proposed

institution.

As to the interest derivable from this

Governor: 1500 to the Judges of the

Supreme Court; $;1000 to the Judges of the Circuit Courts; pay of members of the Legislature .$'3 per day, except the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House, who are allowed .$1 per day. Mr. Clark, of the Senate, from the committee on canals and internal im

provements to which was referred so much of the Governor's message as relates to the supposed inequality of the authorized system of internal improvement, with instructions to inquire into, .and report what additions are necessa

ry to extend equal justice to every part of the state, made a very long and able report, toolong toadmit an abstract in a summary. Our readers may learn the tenor of the report fiom its conclusion,, which is as follows: "And the committee have further directed me to report that in their opinion, any further enlargement ofthe system, at the present

session, is inexpedient, and would lead lo a prostration of l!ie credit of the state, and an abandonment of the works already commenced." On the bill changing the mode of voting for U. S. Senators and others, considerable discussion took place in the House. Those who advocated the bill were Messrs. Ferguson, Crume, Stapp, Porter, Owen, and Wright; those who opposed it were Messrs. M'Carly of F., Hanna of M., and Proflilt. The principal ground upon which the bill was supported was, that as representatives are under the direction of their constituents, the mode of election should lie such, that the constituents of theseveral members may see whether or

not their representatives, respectively, vote their wishes. The gentlemen in the opposition contended that llie mode was fixed by the constitution, and that no evil has yet been seen growing out of it that would seem to demand a change. The bill lo raise ihe salary of Governor, Judge, &.c. and to increase the pay of Ihe members of the legislature, underwent considerable discussion; in which Mccsrs. Ctume, Fvans, Pepper, Rockhill, Marshall of Jef., Hanna of M., Owen and others participated. The debate was principally on amendments to the bill, which were cut off by the call for the previous question. An attempt was made to increase the salary of (he Governor to thiil of two thousand dollars ; but ihe impression seemed to be, as the system of internal improvement would require some additional taxation to support it, that the better policy w ould be not to increase it beyond the sum contemplated by the bill, which is fifteen hundred dollars per annum, Journal.

will so apply it, for it is notoriously fund it can be applied to such objects

as this legislature may direct best.

But, sir, inasmuch as some gentlemen wish it applied lo pay the interest on

loans, while others, with equal

known that is opposed to its distribu

tion among the States. What, sir, will

then be our condition with Severn

banks predicated on this borrowed

lllild? WilV. sir. we w ill have to hre;ik

Ixuiaxapoms, Jan. 18.

Slale

aim?

wish it applied to purposes of

UF.MAKKS Of COL. JAMES, In the House, Jan. 5, on ihe bill lodis pose ofthe surplus revenue, by creating the "Indiana State Funding company,"' with 35 branches. The motion pending was to reject the bill. Mr. JAMKS saidMr. S it: v kkr : I am one of the committee of 'jurleen to whom was referred the resolution to dispose of the surplus revenue. In presenting the different views of

gentlemen composing that committee,

there seemed to be the following objects in view: 1st. to place it in the Banks; 2d. lo loan it by commissioners; :hl. to give it to the counties for any object they might apply it to; and -1th, (o fund it out of the Hanks. The project of placing it in the Banks seemed to embrace four different propositions: 1st. to place it in the Banks, lo he by (hem loaned out as other moneys are; 2d. to be loaned for ;. greater length of time than Banks usually loan; 3d. to subscribe the amount as stock in (he branches already established; and 1th. to establish new branches with the fund. The objection

up those Banks created for the employ- Fducation. would it not he better to tnent of this capital, or resort to a tax dhide the interest so as to accommoon the people to raise this money. And, date both parties? sir, the laller will probably prevail; As to the objection to its power to and, sir, being opposed to a tax on the hold real estate let th.it mattei be apeople for any object other than that of mended in committee. Its power of

supporting the government, 1 shall go

distinctly against any institution whicl

win be likely to ultimately have lh.it

tllect

Mr. James then stated his objection

lo the proposition to divide it to the

counties of this State, and appoint a

commissioner to loan it. J

I lie last proposition w hich I shall

speak of, is to fund it out of the Hanks

In view of this proposition, (he com

miltce have drafted the bill which now

nes on the clerk s table, and which it

is proposed to reject. In making a bill,

the provisions of which are so exten

sive, it could not he believed that the

few w ho drafted it, could meet the in

Ici est, or even the views of every gen

tleman, either engaged in the labors

and duties of this House, or the corn

uuiiiiy ai large. J. lie committee an

licipated no such perfection. They

took the middle ground. 1 hey pro

pose by this bill ihe adoption ofa measure which, I think, will, in the greatest

possible degree, place the fund in asit-

insuranee has also been objected lo, but the risk on insurance is no greater than the risk on loans lo individuals. If losses are likely to be sustained in insu

rance companies, ihe same losses may

take place by failures in ihe borrowers of money.

If gentlemen do not like the bill w ith

ils present features, let it go to a committee of the whole, where it was destined but I protest its rejection at this

earlv stage.

Washington- Citv. A w liter says: Formerly, you could get cabbage and cold victuals in Washington for eight and ten dollars the week; but now

you are chalked up to the beautiful

tunc of fourteen dollars and yet the cabbage and cold victuals are what they were in the year 1750. It requires a philosopher with a full pocket to stand such things.

A new source of Rkvknue. Some ofthe Southern papers recommend the sale of Santa Anna at Auction, to b

nation entirely safe, where it will yield knocked down lo the highest bidder, to

w,c fcear.esi interest, anu accommodate I delray the expenses of the Texian war.

In the Semite to-day quite an animated debate took place on the passage ofthe bill providing for a survey of a canal route along Hie cast branch of White-water. The bill provides for a survey ofthe route during the ensuing summer, if the Engineers shall have sufficient lime to make it. The bill was some days ago referred lo the committee on canals and internal improvements. Mr. Clark, chairman of that committee, reported it hack with a recommendation that it be indefinitely postponed. The report was not concurred in by the Senate. The question then came up on its final passage, when an animated debate took place, in which Messr?. Clark, Thompson of Lawrence, Morgan, I Mummer, Dun-, ning, Walker," Vawter, Colerick frask, Bell and others participated The passage of the bill was zealously opposed by Messrs. Clark, Thompson; and Kennedy, not on .account of their, opposition to the isolated proposition, (the reasonableness of w hich if the system is to be extended they admitted,) but because they regarded it as an en. (cring wedge which would endanger the whole system; and that if this innovation should be made it would be opening (he door for other measures,, milking (lie system so extensive as to prostrate it. Most of the other gentlemen supported the bill on the ground, among other things, that it would subject the state (o no expense, that it asked for nothing but a survey, that the measure in itself was reasonable, thnt the system of hist y ear was not so perfect that no innovations should he made upon it, &C. etc. The bill passed by a vote of 31 to 1 I .