Indiana State Sentinel, Indianapolis, Marion County, 17 January 1894 — Page 3

THE INDIANA STATE SENTINEL, WEDNESDAY MORNING, JANUARY 17, 1891-TWELVE PAGES. 3

FREE TRADE POINTS

Tom L,. Johnson of Ohio Speaks on the Tariff, Attacking the Party For Its Attitude. Says the Wilson Bill is Not Radical Enough. HE SCORES THE TRUSTS, Paying Special Attantlon to Steel Rails And Incidentally to Mr. Andrew Carnegie. Jvlr. Tracy Threaten to Slap Somebody's Face. tTlir flrsnlt of an Mlencd Insnlt by ItrprrntatlTp Ilontrlle The Latter Denies That He Intended Any lie. llprtinD Otlirr Sprrrhrii on the Tariff Senntor (inrmnn'i Statement ThHt the I'nst Three Yrnri Appro priatlno lluve tlxccealett Itevruora ly SM,U0O,O0U. WASHINGTON, Jan. 10. The third cay of the tariff debate in the house vas enlivened by a sensational speech by Mr. Tom Johnson of Ohio, the free trader and single tax advocate, who claims, with the lion. Lawrence T. Neal, late democratic candidate for governor it Ohio, the joint authorship of the tariff plank la the Chicago platform. lie bodly attacked the democrats fur the timid manner in which they had handled the tariff question, and charged th'-in with cowardice all along the line. Mr. Dalzdl of I'ittsburgr made a brilliant peech in defence of the tariff, dwelling particularly on the iron and fteel interests. Messrs. Woomer of J'ennsylvanla and C'xnibs of New York Nvere the other speaker?. Mr. Cummings, chairman of the eomJiiittee on naval affairs, arose and atked Unanimous consent to consider the Jioutelle resolution reported back from the naval tommitt"? calling on the secretary of the navy for copies of all orders fend communications which placed the fTic-erx, men and ships of the United Mates navy under the control of Commissioner Ii..uiit, a civilian who had not ben confirmed by the senate. The Rttenipt to sec-tire unanimous considerti tion for this resolution raised another Jnerry row whi'-h concluded with another ertral diW between Mr. Boutelle and Hie speaker. Tmey in a Temper. During the war of words Mr. Tracy rf New York asked the chair whether It woyld.be in order to call for the regular order. "Oh, the white house cluck has not ftruck this morning," interposed Mr. Jloutelle sarcastically. Mr. Tracy's cheek flamed. He inquired hotly whether a member whil" making a parliamentary Inquiry could be affronted and tailed attention tr the foot that on another occasion a gentleman (Mr. Wilson of Washington) had shouted "click'' while he was talking Mr. Houtelle disc l.i:ind any intention of Insulting his colleague and after the chair said that in courtesy he was giving Mr. Houtelle a hearing, Mr. Tracy took his seat tdill chafing under the affront yut on him and declaring to his friends about him that he would not stand this sort of treatment any longer. "The next man who pays anything of that kind," he decdared, "will get' his face slapped." The tariff debate was then resumed. Mr. Hopkins of Illinois continuing his remark3 of yesterday, under a running lire of question from Mr. Coombs of New York and Mr. Bryan of Nebraska. At the- night session Mr. Snodgrass of Tennessee. Mr. Mahon of Pennsylvania, ind Mr. Curti.s of Kansas were the Speakers, and at 10:30 adjournment was taken. TOM JOHNSO.VS PI'KKCII. The Well Known Free Trader Make !omc Cutting Statement. After the completion, of Mr. Hopkins's remarks, Mr. Tom I Johnson of Ohio, the well known free trader and single tax advocate, took the floor and created bomething of a sensation by his bold Utterances. "We, of the democratic party, went before this country in 1S92 asserting that the existing tariff was wrong in principle and unjust in operation, declaring the policy of protection a fraud and robbery, charging it with creating trusts, etilling conun-erce, throttling industry, causing enforced idleness, lessening wages, impoverishing labor and creating a few monstrous fortunes, and pledging: ourselves to abolish it if the American, people gave us authority. They did give us authority, and then our ha-sta to repeal oppressive taxes subsided, and instead of flying at the throat f protected barons In the robber trusts, the great democratic party began, as it were, to wag Its tail and look for crumbs. It was the duty of a party coming into power on such pledges, and at such a conjuncture, to have proceeded without a moment's delay to the radical revision of the tariff. If Mr. Cleveland had shown the sagacity and courage the situation demanded, the ink would not have been dry on the commksHlons of his secretaries before congress would have been called into extra resison to relieve the country of its burdens of taxation. But instead of that we proceeded to rest on our laurels, and divide the spoils end the nation was treated to the spectacle of a president and a congress having power to remove crushing burdens, devoting their energies to the dlscusalon of personal claims to petty places. "And as the climax of all this delay, we come to the shameful days we have Just passed" through in which the white house has stood jaralyed, because, despite our overwhelming majority, we democrats would reither furnish a quorum to be counted, nor count the one that was really present It is not merely that we have yet done nothing. It Is that we have nothing where we had promised much. The worst possible situation of business is not that of a high tariff, but that of a high tariff threatened with certain but definite reduction. This Is the situation our delay has for nearly a year Imposed on the country. Up to the preant. thank to our inaction, the victory of the democratic party la November, 1393, has worked evil for good. The McKinley tariff tili exerts Its strangling power, and worse than the McKinley tariff Is the depressing effect of the uncertainty as to what tariff will auoreed It." Mr. Johnson commended the bill for the blow at the sugar trust, "but," he Added, "the whisky trust and steel rail

trust, the'eordage trust and the bicycle trust, and the starch trust, in tdiort, the whole breed of vampires which rob the roor people through tho agency of the government by means of the tariff, are left free to pluck the tariff-bound American consumer. He has no lobby to represent him; he has only congressmen." Steel Hail. Mr. Johnson tpoke of steel rails, of which he Is one of the largest manufacturers In the country'- He said the present duty of $13.44 a ton is equal to 50 per cent The reduction of the committee is 23 per cent It peemed like- a large reduction, he declared, but it left all the steel rail trust needed. It Is asgood to them as 1.000 per cent., for It Is practically a prohibitory duty. Steel can be made here as cheaply as anywhere else In the world and would not now b imported, save In exceptional cases, even if there were no duty, while the tendency of invention and improvement Is In favor of the United States as

against Lurope. . The fteel made into rails in this country i from native ore. What pig metal billets and blooms are Imported are used entirely In other Iron and steel manufactures. Now it costs less than $2 a ton to make steel rails from blooms, including straightening and punching. In today's market steel blooms are selling less than $17. SN-el rails should therefore not bring over $19. They did fall nearly to that price a fewweeks ago during a temporary break in the steel rail pool, but that pool was quickly reorganized and the price of rails was put up and is now maintained at $24 a ton, so that by virtue of the duty which keeps out foreign rails the pool i3 compelling buyers of steel rails to pay thm 2Z per cent, more than a fair price. Mr. Johnson continued: cnres Carnegie. "This new stel rail -pool is composed of seven manufacturers, headed by Mr. Carnegie, who absolutely controls the rroduct of more than one-half of the rolled steel produced in the United States, and who have combined to pay other large manufacturers heavy annual pums to close their works, discharging their men and make no steel. Do employers pay larger wages than when they get larger profits? I do not, and even philanthropists do not. Take Mr. Andrew Carnegie, who gives like a prince out of the millions the tariff has enable,! him to take from his fellow citizens. He gives like a prince from his more than princely Income, but he do"3 not raise wages unless lie has to. Before he started for Jerusalem a few days ago, he utilized the tariff to reestablish the steel rail pool and pay other manufacturers to shut up their works and throw their men out of employment; then a general cut in wages was made in all his great establishments, and then he announced himstlf ready to give as much as $3,ti'M) a day to fed the unemployed In l'ittsbtrg a place, that if there were any truth in the theory that protection is good for labor, ought to be a very paradise for workingmt-n. Now. which is lest for labor, plenty of charity soup-houses or plenty of employment'.' "There is the question between protection and free trade. What is true of steel is true of all industries. If we could alwlish. tho whole tariff on the 1st of February I d not believe there is a single manufactured Industry that would close. On the contrary, all that were not purely exotics, kept alive by taxes would l,p preatly stimulated, foreigners would want, more of our products, and foreign markets would bo open to our good. Vheat would bring more to the grower and labor would bring more to the laborer, and the masses of our people would want and could pay for more manufacturing goods. You cannot depress Industry and impoverish labor by remitting taxes; that is done by imposing taxes." The I'ropoatMl 1 1 1 1 1 . The bill lie would pass, Mr. Johnston said, would consist of but three sections, viz: "Section 1. All imiKiit duties and corresponding internal revenue duties are hereby almllshed, and all ofli. i !s engaged in collecting such duties are hereby discharged. "Sec. 2. The secretary of the treasury Is hereby directed to sell all cusi.nnshouses and r-veiiu.' cutters, and pay the proceeds into the treasure. "Sec. 3. This act shall take effect immediately." Such a bill, said Mr. Johnston, would excite no more protectionist opposition than this poor little timid Wilson bill will. It would not be sneered at and it would arouse a mighty support that this bill cannot get. While Mr. Johnson was condemning the alleged steel rail pool he Uname engaged in a heated controversy with Mr. Dalzell of Pennsylvania. "You deny the present existence of a pool?" asked Mr. Johnson. "Yes. sir." "Well, here is the pivof of it." said Mr. Johnson, flourishing aloft a document "Here Is the agreeemtnt in the iron act. A certain B. y. Ken nod v contracted to receive 25,000 tons of rails at what I considered an exorbitant prioe and to forfeit S 1,000 a day if he did not take them. I looked into the matter to see who such a large buyer could tx. I found that he was a stockholder in the Cambria works, a rival concern, and now secretary of the new pool formed last November. That pool agreed to give the manufacturers of Sparrows Point. Md., $1.000 a day to close their works and discharge thir nijen. That Is the sort of trust the Wilson bill's 25 per wit, duty perpetuates. (Democratic applause.) It gives a concern In Pennsylvania JSO.OGO a year to close down. The old pool of eight or nine companies agreed to maintain the price of rails at $:'3. One of the numbers secretly undersold the pool. Car- ' ; . ,11 '-vTKNOWLEDGE Brings comfort and improvement nnd tends to personal enjoyment when rightlj used. The many, who live better than others and enjoy life more, with less expenditure, by more promptly adapting the world's befit products to the needs of physical being, will attest the value to health of the pure liquid laxative principles embraced in the remedy, ßyrup of Fig3. 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negie madft war on him, beat the pric down to $19, closed him up and then

.formed another pool. (Applause.) "I cannot controvert what the gen tleman says." interposed Mr. Dalzell, "but if such a pool rj ho describee exit". I deprecate It a much as he." "That is where I differ with the gen tleman." retorted Mr. Johnson-. "I be lieve In making all the mony I can. am a thorough-going monopolist and taking advantage of the bad laws you republicans h,ve made, but I don't be lieve in defending those laws here. (TyMiJ and prolonged democratic ap plause.) Other Speakers. At the conclusion of Mr. Johnson's speech Mr. Dalzell of Pennsylvania took th floor. The other speflkers were Mr. Woomcr of Pennsylvania and Mr. Coombs of New York. When the latter closed th house, at 5:15, took a recess until 8 o'clock tonight. A 5TAIITLI3C FACT. The rnt Three Year Approprlnlinn Kieeeded Ilevenuea $:i0O,tHM),00O. The principal event in the senate to day was the speech of Senator Davis of Minnesota in support of the policy of non-intervention in Hawaiian affairs. The senator plainly expressed himself as in favor of the annexation of Ilawall and declared that to finally be the manifest destiny of the Hawaiian Island, It had for forty years been recognized as inevitable by every American minis tcr to Hawaii and no foreign govern ment objected to this plan when con summated for favorable circumstances and conditions. The main portion of the argument of the senator was to show that the revolution was the legitimate outcome of the usurpation of the queen and of the attempted proclamation of a new constitution. In the earlier part of the day and on another subject. Senat-ir Oorman created some surplrse by declaring that during the past three years the total appropri ations of congress had exceeded by $cQ0.' 0o,000 the total revenues of the govern ment during that period. A large portion of this enormous aggregate Is for public buildings and is in a great measure yet unexpended. Senator Hale of Maine reported from the committee on naval affairs, with an amendment, the house resolution providing for the investigation and consideration of all matters relating to the personnel of th navy. The senate amendment provides that tho inquiry shall be made by sub-commitlecs of the committee on naval affairs of the house and senate, inFtcad of by a joint commission of the two bodies. The resolution was amended and agreed to. Xominatlnn nnI Confirmation. The president has made the following nominations: Postmasters V. C. Hanawalt. Logansport. Ind.; William II. Burke, Sullivan, Ind. The senate today confirmed the following nominations: John CJ. Sehwegman, postmaster at Richmond, Ind.; Eugene Lewis, postmaster at Greenfield. Ind.; Charles Spinner, at Ooodland, Ind. William N. Hailman of Laporte. Ind., to be superintendent Indian school.'. J. W. Pergnson, to be register of the land oftice at Lincoln. Neb. .Mr. OWelU's Bill. The bill of Representative O'Neill of Massachusetts, authorizing the secretary of the treasury to borrow money up to $100,000,000 in anticipation of revenues, and to issue therefor loan certificates bearing 3 per cent, interest, is attracting much attention in the financial circles of congress and of the administration. It is regarded as something more than the expression of Mr. O'Neill's personal views, as he discussed the subject with Secretary Carlisle and Assistant Secretary Hamlin before introducing the bill. 1'Olt AM) ;.1.ST IT. The I'low of Orntorj- on the Wllnon Ulli Continue. WASHINGTON, Jan. 11 Save for a recess of two hours there was an uninterrupted How of tariff oratory in the house again today from 11 this morning until 10:30 tonight. Interest in the debate is beginning to flag a little. The principal speeches today were those of Mr. Breckinridge of Kentucky, Mr. Springer of Illinois, Mr. Dingley of Maine and Mr. Harter of Ohio. In the course of his speech, Mr. Breckinridge likened the advocates of protection to sharks. Mr. Walker of Massachusetts Insisted on knowing to whom he applied such an epithet. "I did not mean to hurt the gentleman's feelings." replied Mr. Breckinridge. (Laughter.) Mr. Walker, however, declared that that was not a fair answer. "Well, then," he responded, "I refer to those who, during the peril and distress cf a great civil war, took advantage of labor In the name of patriotism, and later, in time of profound peace increase those exactions, until in the Fifty-first congress thc-y wrote a new law that enriched themselves. "I refer to these who admitted new states to retain power; tho who purchased ballot boxes and took the seat of William R. Morrison in this house by bribery." (Democratic applause.) "Being an American manufacturer and one of those who helped to make tho laws, do you H-fer to me?" inquired Mr. Walker. "If the description fits you, then you have re-cognized your own picture." (Laughter and applause.) Mr. Richards of Ohio followed with a short speech in support of the Wilxon bill, after which Mr. Dingley of Maine spoke In place of Representative Gear of Colorado, one of the republican mem bers of the ways and means committee. who was unavoidably absent In connec tion with the senatorial light ia his state. Mr. Dingley waa accorded close attention. He made a strong speech which elicited much applause. .Mr. Sprlngrer Speaka. Mr. Springer of Illinois, who was chairman of the ways and means commtitee of the last congress, followed. He spoke of the tariff question and tried to show that laborers and agriculturists had not been benefited by the protec tion. He quoted census office statistics on the amount oi mortgage inaeoteaness. "New York has a larger per capita of mortgaged indebtedness than lebraska." Interrupted Mr. Reed. "Yes, sir," replied Mr. Springer. "That shows." said Mr. Reed, "what those figures are worth as showing the condition of agriculture." (Laughter.) Mr. Springer commended the free list of the WiLson bill, but eald that if he had been framing the bill he should have made some material modifications. In concluding, Mr. Springer predicted that with free raw materials this country would become the greatest manufacturing country of the world, as it was now the great agricultural country, lie pictured the condition of affairs in 1856, when the low tariff was threatened, comparing it with today when 3,000,000 people are Idle. The saddest sight he had ever witnefed. ne saia, was tne Philadelphia delegation of manly young men In the ways and mean committee room, a few months ago, pleading, not for their employes, but their employment (Applause.) They represented 200,000 one-nrtn or the population of the greatest manufacturing city of the country. He spoke of the Mills bill and said it was a me.aaure which, In comparison with the pending bill, seemed like the work of a statesman. Mr. Harter, the Manafnctnrer. Mr. Harter of Ohio, a large manu facturer of agricultural Implements and hi well known free trade advocate, 5-

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were reduced for the benefit of the many it mattered not how much it injured the few, but when the law put up prioes the wrong waa manifest because It benefited the few at tho expense of the many. The law should give the greatest good to the greatest number. Mr. Harter was bombarded with questions by Mr. Blair of New Hampshire and others, and finally proposed to go back and review the tariff facts of history. Mr. Broeius of Pennsylvania closed the debate for the afternoon In opposition to the bill. He defended the theory of protection. The committe at S:30 o'clock re-entered ' an 1 took a recess until 8 o'clock. Mini Mght Seaaion. There was a meager gathering at the night session of the house, the republican side being entirely deserted and the democratic tide showing "only fifteen, members. Representative Maguire, democrat, of California, and Cockrell, democrat of Texas, spoke 1 n support of the Wilson bill. JEIUlV AM) Ills COAT. Illustrated Speech by the Hunan I'opalint. WASHINGTON, Jan. 12. The important tariff speeches today were made by Mr. Payne of New Y'ork. one of the leading republican members of the ways and means committee; Dr. Everett, the Massachusetts mugwump, and Mr. Jerry Simpson, the Kansas populist. Mr. Simpson created the sensation of the day by illustrating his remarks on the deplorable condition of the agricultural classes by displaying a dilapidated overcoat which he got from a farmer on the market place. He said he could duplicate it on the backs of a million farmers in the United States today. Mr. Simpson said that while he Intended to vote for the Wilson bill, there were many provisions in it which he did not approve of. There wa3 not one of those who ever believed that the democratic party brought to the test would carry out its pledges-, for he knew, while there were honest democrats, the action of the democratic party, like that of tie? republicans was controlled by the money power. riedged to Free Trade. "The people's parly," said he, "stands on a platform pledged, as he interpreted it, to the principle of free trade. What I say here today in the discussion of this bill ehall be from the standpoint of a free trader." He believed that the cause of evil times can be -easily discovered if gentlemen would divest themselves of party prejudice. It had not come suddenly.

but had been the result of causes which began far in the past and would have come long ago had it not been for the wonderful resources of the country and the wisdom and industry of the people. The intolerable burden pr.t upon the agricultural classes through the indirect system of taxation had been one of the potent causes which had produced the present condition of affairs. The farmers of the country In 1SÖ0 owned no per cent, of the wealth, T.3 per cent, in 1S60, 40 per cent. In 1SS0 and SO jer cent. in im. It was at this juncture Mr. Simpson created great applause and amusement by treating the house to the sight of a dilapidated overcoat. He proposed to show the house exactly what the poor people of the country did wear. Before the Public axv Reaching down under his desk he seized a tattered old overcoat, fringed at the edge and Iw-spangled with great patches. He held it on high while the house and the galleries cheered. "I bought that of a farmer," said he. "who told me he had left home at 12 o'clock last night and driven twentylive miles to sell his product in your boasted home market. There, as Mr. Cleveland said, is an object lesson." (Laughter.) "There is a sample of what men we:ir under the benencient system of protection," he continued. "It is made of shoddy and rags, see?" Here be ripped it up the back. "Yet," he added, "I can find its duplicate on the backs of a million men in this country." "Where did he buy it?" asked Mr. Cannon. "He bought It a year ago in this city for $S and I bought him another shoddy coat to take its place for $10.40." (Laughter.) "Is it American or Imported?" asked Mr. Cannon. "I don't know," replied Mr. Simpson. "I don't care; but it is the product of American protection. No one can deny that" (Laughter and applause.) Mr. Simpson concluded with an appeal to the people to ring out the old and ring In the new order of things. Many members tendered him their personal congratulations when he sat down. Mr. Daniels (rep.) of New York argued against the bill. Mr. McDowell (rep.) of Pennsylvania followed and Mr. MeikieJohn (rep.) of Nebraska closed the debate for the nftsrn-jon session in opposition to tho bill. Defeat of the State Ilnnk Men. The opposition to the repeal of the tax on state banks scored a victory in the committee on banking and currency today. The friends of the bill had been confident that the protracted committee struggle would end toaay by a favorable report, but Representative Johnson of Indiana executed a flank movement by moving to consider the resolution for the previous question. Mr. Johnson's motion carried on a viva voco vote. He at once followed this up by moving that the entire question be put aside until after the tariff debate closed. This also carried and the meeting summarily closed with the tdate bank men in a mi nority. Holmtn for an Open Cane 11. Representative Holman of Indiana, chairman of the democratic caucus committee of the house, is strongly opposed to the secrecy which has heretofore en veloped house caucuses. "I was In favor," said he. "of having the recent democratic caucus on the tariff open to the correspondents and to the publlo and I had directed that the press gallery should be opened during the caucus. There was such strenuous opposition to the publicity, however, that finally consented to have the doors of the house and those leading to the galleries closed. But J am satisfied that BETTER WAN PILLS. Take Simmons Liver Regulator, a mild laxative and a tonic to the digestive organs that also tones up the system. Pleasant to take and no griping. It is nature's remedy purely vegetable, and gives the quickest relief from Constipation, Biliousness, Sick Headache and Dyapepsia. Sold by all druggists in powder or liquid, the powder to be taken dry or made into a tea. SampV.paekie by mail, 25 conti

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FOrit OK TIIK I1KST Drllllnnt peechea in the Tariff Debate. WASHINGTON, Jan. !3. The week's general debate on the Wilson bill elcsed today with a brilliant outburst of oratory. Rourke Cockran of New York, Judge Turner of Georgia, Gen. Orosvenor of Ohio and Mr. Bry an of Nebraska made brilliant speeches. During the coarse of his speech Mr. Grosvenor furnished an object lesson in reply to Mr. Simpson's oration cf yesterday, an illustration of what protection had done for the country. He called attention to the suit of clothes which he wore, which he said ho had purchased yesterday afternoon for $10.80. It was guaranteed, he said, to be all w-ool. He exhibited in contrast a suit which he had purchased in England for which lie paid $16.;.0, which in material and workmanshiD was Inferior to the American suit. The exhibitions caused great amusement llonrke CorLrnn nenkn. When Bourke Cockran, the great Tammany orator, took the :ioor a deep hush fell upon the house and the galleries. It was expected that he would vcice his opposition to the individual income tax, but he did not so much as allude to it His speech was simply a discussion of the two theories in antagonism and bis telling points were applauded until the hall of representatives rang. "When this bill was in course of preparation." he began, "tha democratic members of the ways and means committee had practically decided among themselves that in order to expediate the consideration of the measure they would abstain from discussion, but since the date of the final disposition was fixed we have felt relieved from that restraint The objection that he bill would not afford sufficient revenue is one bom of absolute ignorance of the laws of revenue reductions. "A low tariff will not only increase the revenues of the government," said he, "hut it will increase the opportunities of American labor. For every dollar that goes into the treasury hundreds of dollars are collected by the processes of consumption and trade throughout the country, so thnt the amount contributed for the support of the government Is but a feature, a mite of this system of taxation, the real extent of which no man can tell. The gentleman from Michigan, Mr. Burrows, has told me that the march of free trade must be artested if we would escape the devastation of our industries and the degradation of the masses. What is protection? Is the McKinley Mil protection In all its perfection? We have been told by the republicans that the tariff was something Sacred; that it couldn't be discussvd; that it was sacrihgeous to touch it. The tariff law of ISin) is the final crowning work of the protectionists, but is there to he still another advance In protection, raising a higher wall around the country anil binding and eircumscribing the industry of the people. Ohjeetloiia Two-Fold. "I believe that you are honest in your opinion and I know that many a.sociates on this side of the chamber are honest in theirs. (Applause.) The objections to this measure on the other side are twofold. One is hat it will increase business, .-mother thnt it will decrease business (laughter), and strange as it may seem I have heard both propositions advanced by the same gentlemen. (Renewed laughter.) "The g'-ntlemau from Maine, Mr. Dingley, took the ground that under this bill if we are to raise suilicient revenue, we will be compelled to increase our ImiMrts to $iT,0,Otu),oo0, which would spread joy among the foreigners and consternation among the consumers of our own country." "I said," interrupted Mr. Dingley, "that if it Increased the imports to the extent of $2"0.tM)0.iH0 of goods which we ought to produce for ourselves it would decrease the production of goods which should be produced here just to that cxjent." . "I take that statement even In its narrow sense," replied Mr. Cockran, "for anything which comes from the gentleman from Maine is valuable in this discussion (laughter). He tells U3 in the very next paragraph of his speech that all trade between nations Is but an exchange of commodities. If that be so must not this $2."0,ooo.ooo of goods imported bo paid for in $2".0,000.000 of products which are exported." (Applause.) A Itnnning; I 'Ire. "I said," interrupted Mr. Dingley, "that we paid for these importations by sending gold abroad, by depleting the gold in the hands of our people." (Republican applause.) "If it be an injury to send abroad money." said Mr. Cockran, "it must be a benefit to import. Is that not the gentleman's position?" "I suppjse," said Mr. Dingley, "that the gentleman is aware that we often go into debt for things Instead of paying for them. A nation, like an individual, does not necessarily pay at the time for what it purchases abroad. My point was that the importations tended to decrease the opportunities of production In this country." "The gentleman would deplore the Importation of $250.000,000 of goods," resumed Mr. Cockran, "but would rejoice at the importation of $250,000,000 of money." "Will the gentleman permit a question?" queried Mr. Walker of Massachusetts. "In order to promote the gaiety of the discussion, I will." (Democratic applause.) "The absolute gift of $250,000,000 of cotton and woolen goods," said Mr. Walker, "would shut up our mills and would be the greatest curse that you could conceive." (Republican applause.) Mr. Cockran continued at length, making the longest speech of the day. At its close he was liberally applauded. Representative Taylor of Tennessee urged that the pending bill was framed on sectional lines and that if passed it would destroy the iron industry of the South. Mr. Draper of Massachusetts then speke against the bill. Mr. Weadock of Michigan spoke for the bill. He urged that It would be better for his state If the reduction of . duty was made gradual on iron ore, salt, lumber, etc., and while he would vote for the bill, he would hope to secure amendments. Mr. Doolittle of Washington closed the debate for the afternoon in opposition to the bill and the house took a recess until 8 o'clock. At the night session the brilliantly illuminated hall was packed to the doors. The crowd became so great that a resolution was passed permitting members to bring ladies on the floor. Mr. IJrynn'a Strong Toints. Mr. Bryan, the brilliant young- Nebraska orator, whose tariff speech In the last congress made him a national reputation, was the attraction of the evening. Mr. "Wright, a republican from Pennsylvania, preceded him. lie read a written speech in support of the protective doctrine and In opposition to the Wilson bill, and then Mr. Bryan took the floor and spoke In substance as follows: "It is amusing to see the protectionist contradicting himself. He wants high tariff to make high wages when he talks to the employe and he wants a high tariff to make low prices when he talks to the consumer; h wants high tariff on wool to raise lta prtea a&4 a high

tariff on woolen goods ti lower thdr price; he wants high tariff to raise the prlco of wheat and lower the prico of iron. A "The principle of protection cannot be defended. The government has no right either to take my money by taxation and give It to another; nor has it any right by an indirect tax to hold me while some one rifles my pockets. "Wo are exporting cotton manufactures to China, although our day wages are five to ten times higher. Our fathers pay for hHp nearly eight times what IB paid in India, and yet meet India wheat in Liverpool, but when you ask a protectionist how Kngland with free trade pays better wages than any European country with protection he replies: " 'Who put down the rebellion, anyhow?" "We are confident that this tiU will remove a part of the load from the shoulders of the people; extend our markets and justify still further reduction in the near future. The bill has been denounced as favorable to th South. Where we give free cotton ties to the South we give free binding twine to the North. Where we give cotton bagging to the South we give free agricultural Implements to the North. Texas

has more sheep than any northern state and yet consents to free wool for our manufactures, while the cotton growers of the state give free cotton to the cotton manufacturers. "New England helped to free th black slaves and the South now rjoiocs that it was done. It is fitting that th South should now help to strike down this system of white slavery, by which one man is made to pay tribute to cnother and In the fullness of time New England wl'l rejoice in the result." Mr. Bryan was frequently applauded during his speech, and at its conclusion was given a thunderous ovation. H spoke almost three hours and when he linished at 11:10 the house adjoin he j. The Proposed liontl Issne. Secretary Carlisle's reported purpose of Issuing bonds, by virtue of the general authority granted to the secretary of the treasury under the act cf 1S75, has aroused the interest of some of the leading constitutional lawyers of the house as to the legality of such action. It is well understood that Mr. Carlisle would not resort to this general act except for the purpose of meeting the pressing demands for cash. Judge Culberson of Texas, chairman

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of th Judiciary committee of the house, and most, if not all his colleagues oa that committee, say that, whilj the eecretary has the general right to isms bonds, he can ret use the proceeds derived from their sale except for tha ringle purpose of redeeming outstanding treasury notes. In support cf this assertion they quota a report made bv a committee of the housy July C, 11-2. eianed by Mr. Cul-l-erson. Congressman Oates of Alabama, Bynum of Indiana, S'ovkdale of Mississippi. Goodnight of Kentucky, Boatne of Louisiana, I.ayton of Ohio, Wolverton cf Pennsylvania. Pell ws cf Nw York and Buchanan of Virginia. All cf the? gentlemen, with the exception cf Messrs Fellows and Buch.an, are members of the present house and are regarded as authorities on legal questions. In the report they say: "There- is no liiiiitaik-n uin the authority of th-3 secretary of the treasury to sell bonds for the purpo,-e of redemption under th art. but the rrooeeda derived frr ni su-h fabs can not be used fOT other than reien-.pti-n purposes." Secretary Carlisle's Dinner. Secretary Carlisle gave a cabinet dlnnT at his hand 5c mo residence ca K-t tonight Th guts included Proel-d-Mit cnl Mis. Cleveland, Secretary and Mn. Gr-sham. Secretary and Mrs. Lamont. Attorney-General an J Mrs. 01ney Postmaster-Gerx-ral and Mrs. Bissen, Secretary end Mrs. Herbert Secretary and Mrs. Smith, Secretary and Jvliss Morton, Assistant-Secretary and Miss Hamlin, f-ir Julian and Lady Pawneefote pr. curry and wife nd P.iggs of Baltimore. Mrs. CT vi-lind held a Krgcdy attm&el retion at th white Lous3 this afternoon from'!:?) to 5 o'clock. Tha n cepti )H was in no Pn-; n. puMie ont ei-c-pt that 1,0) cuds cf invitatloa had lo n iasr.e.j, and Judging from tha crowds that thronrl tho- hOMse during" th hour? of the reception all the Invited guests aitcni--d. The reception, was to ladies only. The Marino band was In atttviidanoe.

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