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bing his eyes, wondering if he could believe what he saw. It seemed almost too good to be true. Now Uncle Frank is about ready to .break down and confess he has fallen heir to a prize. He comes out flat-footed and says Ralph Kiner will be the Pittsburgh club's center fielder. It took only four weeks for the big kid—he stands six feet, two out of centerfield. and weighs 190 pounds—to chase all other candidates out of the middle] Kiner is fast, has a powerful, garden. arm, made half a dozen eye-open-“Kiner will have to put himself|ing catches that stamped him as on the bench” declares Manager an able defensive player. Frisch. “ “Until he does, he's my| To a club that needs power on man.” : {the attack as badly as the Pirates, |Kiner is a lifesaver to team up Corsairs | with Bob Elliott, Elbie Fletcher and ots 3g the east, hing SS panP lhe others of Frisch's hired hands the noble batting aver-| Who wave a wicked willow, 497, with 23 hits in 47 times A Navy Pilot t, against the Browns and Kiner, whose home is in Alhamite Sox. (bra, a suburb of Los Angeles, was Against the Sox one afternoon signed by Hollis Thurston, the onein Pasadena, he hit a home run|time White Sox pitcher, then the Pacific Coast scout for the Pittsburghs, when he was a student at les. Pasadena Junior college. He rewith a ten-| ported in '42, was almost lost sight ball into left of in the shuffle, and before Frisch ted when rival could have another look, he was began pitching outside on his way to the navy, where he to him by spraying hits down the piloted a bomber. - Kiner came back this spring with

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‘Mexican Baseball Shop

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no more fanfare than accompanied. a dozen or more other young fellows who were trading one of Uncle Sam's uniforms for one of Uncle Prank’s, but he hadn’t been in camp two days before Frisch was standing behind the batting cage, fairly drooling with delight. The boy’s stance is reminiscent of Glenn Wright, the Pirates’ famous shortstop-siugger of the 1920s. He stands with feet wide apart and takes a man's cut. Ralph and his mother, Mrs. Beatrice Kiner, are great , The bonus he received for signing went as part payment on a new home. Frisch gave Kiner permission to commute between San Bernardino, where the Pirates prepared, and Alhambra, and he hurried home to his mother’s cooking every night. Pudding by Frisch Shortly before the Pirates departed, Frisch was told that Mother Kriner was fretting because she feared her boy would have trouble finding lodging and the kind of food he wanted in faraway Pittsburgh. And who would mend his socks and sew on buttons, she wondered. “If that guy keeps on hitting, I attend to his darning and sewing personally—and I might even stir up his favorite pudding or bake the kind of pie he likes,” beamed The Flash, - Of course, Frank Frisch has seen too many boys hit the skies in March and the skids in June to go completely overboard on Ralph Kiner, but at this writing the Al‘hambra Appleknocker has sold himself and no mistake.

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| association revealed today. ~ P).—While other big league teams Gross receipts for the complete were losing players to the Mexican | ¢50000 more than last year's gross league, the New York Yankees the highest on record until the I. H calmly traded catcher Ken Sears,| The increase in attendance was a 278 hitter before entering the |reflected in all tournaments—f{rom service in 1943, to the St. Louis |the sectionals to the finals. Sec-

and an undisclosed sum of cash |$272,155 as compared with’

: Joe McCarthy also an-|in $82,212 this year as against $75,nounced the sale of outfielder Tony | 657.60 last year. The finals at ButSabol to Oakland. {ler this time showed gross receipts : | of $33,840 as compared with $26,200 SARASOTA, Fla.—The Boston |lasi year at the Coliseum. Red Sox, before departing on their| H. V. Phillips, I. H. 8. A. A. com~ * northward barnstorming tour with | missioner, pointed out that the 776 the Cincinnati Reds, announced to- | participating teams cut a melon of day they would return to Sarasota |$185861,01 as their share of the to train next season. = record-breaking receipts. The L H. Manager Bill McKechnie of the |S. A. A. share totaled $86,763.34 Reds announced that outfielder | while the federal government took Mike Dejan, who fought with the out $79,862.62 in taxes. jul airy in Surope, lias. peen re- Plenty of Sell-Outs A i Mr. Phillips, who called this year's

{tournaments “the most successful,” explained that paid attendance— {figured on a per-session basis—ran {1,157451. He said that if tickets ‘issued to competing teams and the

{press were included, the total sesTAMPA, Fla.—The Boston Braves sion attendance would have. been

and the world champion Detroit) re than 1.200,000. Tigers were headed north in a spe- | cial train today after taking their‘sq were sold out.in advance, while final hitting drills here yesterday. | : The two teams will play eight ex-|

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DEL RIO, Tex.—Don Kolloway, after playing only two games with the White Sox, took over his old second base position today for good

FINANCIAL DATA 1046 STATE

Total hibition games en route before sep- | Gross TeCRipi8 ...uiivein wis 301 arating at Terre Haute, Ind., April 9, |Pederal Tax ............. Tin 3 ! Referees ..........seocessessss 13,995.00 Thirty-one players were in the Meats cxf sie suse. 29,973.10 Boston party and Pitcher Mort | Transportation A Lod Mesa ai ar RAAT ARNE NAS 9,192.94 Cooper will join the squad en route, | os ERNE 1 488.40 3 i {Oth E J 9,741.30 boosting the total to 32, including |, ticipating Schools iii. 185,861.01 12 pitchers, Center Schoo! fg AC TN 36.783 34 . . are JT Winn Re-Elected Total Sues Jo CHICAGO, April 2 (U. P.).—Col.!| Single Session ............ 108,562

Matt J. Winn, 84, began a new |Pieldhouse Rental . : . 9,473.30 *Not more than 10% of Gross after Tax term today as president of the **Semi-Finals—2'%% of Gross after Tax

High School Basket Tourneys Set New Earnings Record

New attendance and earnings records were set this year at Hoosier BEAUMONT, Tex. April 2 (U. high school basketball tournaments, the Indiana High School Athletic

tournament were $479,380.87, almost receipts of $430,091.28 —which were . 8. A. A. compiled this year’s totals.

the same held true in 13 regionals and in all four semifinals and the

Browns for outfielder Milt Byrnes | tional gross income in 1945 was gq) tourney. $206,725 this year. The regionals brought

Mr. Phillips also announced that the I. H. 8. A. A. board of control had placed both Oromwell and Kendallville high schools on probation until June 1, 1947, because of the “negligence” of their principals in permitting an uncertified player to participate in three sectional games at Kendallville. The player, Marion Wolf of Cromwell, was in the lineup as his team defeated Rome City, Avilla and Shipshewanna, but when the error was discovered, he was removed from the team before the sectional finals against Kendallville. Investigation by the I. H. 8. A. A, Mr, Phillips said, disclosed that Principal Arthur Loveless of Cromwell had been careless in checking his official entry list, and that Principal R. Tritch of Kendallville, who | was in charge of .the tourney, had {used an unofficial list in checking {the lineup instead of using the offi-

Of the 64 sectional tournaments, cial entry lists provided by the I. H.|; smith, Reformed Church

|S. A. A. office. BASKETBALL TOURNEY SERIES

Sectionals Regionals Semi-Finals Finals $296,725.46 ,212,00 $66,612.41 $33,840.00 49,205.76 13,724.42 11,138.84 5,793.60 11,130.00 1,920.00 720,00 225.00 27,535.70 1,517.40 680.00 240.00 8.903976 1,421.28 647.62 279.36 7.994.44 470.50 488.00 240.00 8,453.00 2,221.65 1,623.75 1,184.00 14,448.34 3,348.92 1,356.24 587.80 154,670.07. 25,990.94 4,000.00 1,200.00 12,800.00 5.600.00 *%] 386.84 1,584.30° 25,090.89 - 39,497.82 19,690.24 151.942 67,404 36,089 14,100 107,119 1,443 ‘ . *5,073.30 4,400.00

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American Turf association. He was | nual meeting here yesterday, {Ue S. D avis Cup

also is executive director of Captains Nam Churchill Downs, home of the Ken- | ap v a ed t Derby. | ORK, April 2 (U. P)—

A ——5 BICYCLE TIRES ive $0.40

BLUE POINT in. Delaware, Madison and Ray Streets

ern California before June 17. For

the captain,

| Edward G. Chandler of San Fran\cisco today was named captain of Montreal, (10). the U, 8. Davis cup tennis team [Or ozone Park. the first round against the Philip-|rado, 140, Mexico, (4).

all other rounds, Walter Pate, veteran of Davis Cup teams, will be 140, Caracas, Ven. (10)

"Fight Results

| NEW YORK (St. Nicholas)—Julio Jimines, 138, Mexico City, outpointed Cleo Shans, 138, Los Angeles, (10), | BOSTON-Timothy (Buddy) Hayes, 127, | Boston, outpointed Benny Maye, 122,

J.—Pat Scanlon, 139, 1, stopped Chico Bar-

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L. STAMFORD,, Conn.--Johnny" Rjce, 172

pine Islands to be played in north- gamford, knocked out Willis Barker, 177, |G. McDowell

‘|New York, (1).

| BERGENFIELD, N. J Chester Rico,

PROVIDENCE, R. I.—Charles (Cabey) , 120, New York, oytpointed Joey 135, Philadelphia,” (10).

| ALIGNMENT

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, 180, Mil waukee, outpointed Art Brown, 150, Chicago, (10). i NEW HAVEN, Conn.—George La Rover, 141, Philadelphia, pointed "Julie Kogan, 138, New Haven,

(8). PITTSBURGH--Billy Fox, 167,

| York, (8).

Hawaiian Boxers

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BOSTON, April 2 (U, P.).—Van-

pers Bo Can't Cry About Gridiron

By UNITED PRESS Bo McMillin, the Indiana university football coach who for years gladly let himself be cast in the role of gridiron poverty, knows today he can't get away with the “act” any longer, McMillin sang a song of his “pore

ference season after season. Then last fall, the gridiron urchins from Bloomington struck it rich as they won their first Big Ten football championship. The Hoosiers still are rolling in wealth, conference rivals learned yesterday as spring practice was inaugurated around the circuit, The gray-haired Indiana coach was greeted ‘by a squad of 95 for the inaugural workout and there were enough’ “name” stars in the roster to guarantee that the Hoosiers will be a threat next fall even though ‘the overall strength of the conference will be much greater. More Expected Indiana has 16 lettermen from the titular aggregation of last season. That contingent is going to be bulwarked by such stars as Bob (Hunchy) Hoernschemeyer and George Sundheim, who are returning from the naval academy; Jim Dewar, Pete Iacino and Joe Black of the 1942 squad. By fall, McMillin also expects three other topranked gridders, Hugh McKinnis, fleet Negro back; Bob Cowan, another back, and Ted Haspes, a fine end, to have returned. Hoernschemeyer is not ‘out for spring practice as he is participating in baseball. Big squads—loaded with returning servicemen — were the rule around the conference. Michigan, runner-up to Indiana last fall had 125 gridders report for the opening practice and by the end of the week Coach Fritz Crisler expects the squad to number approximately 200 players,

150 at Ohio State

There were 11 lettermen at the initial drill and Crisler is confident he will have at least 13 other Wolverine monogram winners back by the time fall practice opens. Ohio State, third in the standing a4 season ago, drew 150 men. The Buck squad was a G. I. dominated one, with 90 per cent of the candidates returning servicemen, many of whom had won letters during the 1042, 1943 or 1944 seasons before called info service.

Pleasant Run Cards Another Pro-Am

Pleasant Run's second pro-ama-teur golf tournament of the season {will be held next Sunday afternoon, pro Tommy Vaughn has announced. Play will start at noon, with entries closing at 11:30 a. m. . In the first pro-am yesterday at the East side course three teams tied for top honors in the field of 60 with gross 72s, On the teams were John Draper, Tom Connelly Jr., Marvin Gillespie and Cliff Pittman; Art Wettle Jr., M, Selvin, Earl Parsons and Bill Burkdall and Merle Calvert, Chet Lumpkin, Joe Childers and Jack Frost.

600 BOWLERS (MEN)

John Rice: Praternal . vig Chuek Markey, Ravenswood Merch. John Ott, Moose Lodge oo Otto Rosemeyer, West Side Chureh R. Ullrey, International Harvester. .

"| . 659 | . 647 . 640} 637 |

Bill Behrens, Evangelical ...... 633 Paul Sylvester, Holy Cross .......... 632 | Walter Glozoga, Auto Transp. ...... 628] 0. E.. Garsinette, Reformed Church . 637)

Norman Brezette, St. John of Arc N. 627] Bunny Hare, Court House on sn Pred Tegeler, Reformed Church

Hubert Lee, West Side Church ...... 623] Max Sylvester, Transportation .. 623 | Jack Kirby, St. Phillip ... .. . . 8321 Rev. C. Bosler, St. Joan of Arc N... 620] Jim Reed, North Bide B. M, ........ 617 | Ed Hastings, Evangelical . . 817) Sam Tezzis, Transportation 614 | Bob Walker, Fraternal Viiv . 612 | Walt Henderson, - Inter-Plant .... 611

Prank Stumph, Evangelical

Bill Bryan, Reformed Church ...... 606 | Bob Yaw, North Side B. M se vaye B08 Carl Moxley, South Side B. M. ...... 605 Del Gettings, Praternal a 604 | Wilbur Schuck, South Side B. M 602 Neal Young, .Evangelical 600 | Pug Leppert, Optimist . f OTHER LEAGUE LEADERS (MEN) Joe Gehl, Real Bilk Mixed (W, 8... 508 Lefty Evans, U, 8 Rubber verre iv 3 Paul Ferdinand, Capital Paper ...... 596 | Ed Pearson, Indiana Bell .......... 5965 | Phil Calto, Ft, 8q. Classic . conor S04 Walt O'Neil, Brightwood Merchants. . 879 Chas. Dickinson, Little Flower .. . 873 Delmar McConnell, iLons Club .... BOA Tedder Anderson, Lakeshore Mixed . 550 Hargrave Sr, Ft. 8q Handicap . B54} Rev. C. Bosler, St. Joan of Arc N... 620] Gene Garrity, McQuay-Norris ....... 550 |

| Mike Bisesi, RCA (M-L) ............ M7! {Ralph McClarnin, Stewart-Wrnr, Mxd. 539 Orville Wise, Kiwanis rast iden 524

M0 BOWLERS (WOMEN)

RCA @ | Thelma Parrell, RI, Silk Mxd. (W,

BS 8.) 538 | Alice 8imko, Coca-Cola (Dez.) bas

1139, New York, outpointed Victor Moreno, Pauline Shumar, Darleene's Mirabeaux 534

{Jane Pegg, Ravenswood Merchants ... 532 IR. Whson, ROA is daa taa av BRL {Mary Kidd, Coca-Cola (Dez.) ....... 822 | | Alberta Rosa, Darleene’s ............ 517 | Certrude Pruitt, Darleene's .......... 812 | Marta Roberts, John B. Wolf Ins. .... 511 Helen Erdley, Darleene’s .,.......... 510

Joan McKinney, Herman Schmitt Ins, 507 Margie Berkopes, Herman Schmitt Ins. 506 Mae Ellis, Blue Ribbon Ice Cream.... 508

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Shriners and Eagles Will Hold State Bowling Tourneys Here

Indianapolis, already host to a number of outstanding tenpin tourneys this season, will entertain two more fraternal affairs before the

month is over. The state meets of the Shriners both open April 27 at the Central

event over in a hurry, as it will consume but one week-end. ‘The Eagles,

however, will run four week-ends.| Secretaries of the two affairs report | record entries will participate if the present rate of. registration continues. Dewey Gommel, who is handling the entries in the Shrine meet, expects 60 visiting quintets and 65 local fives to compete in their tournament. Secretary L. B. Thiel of the Eagles event predicts an entry of 200 teams, with Muncie, Ft, Wayne, Anderson, Richmond and Terre Haute augmenting a heavy local entry. 4 Both meets consist of team events, | doubles and singles. 4 John Rice was the top scorer of last night's local league sessions. Rolling with Hamilton-Harris of the Fraternal league at the Illinois, | he had 243, 237, 207—687. He “cleaned” the 4-7-10 split in the fina] frame of his third game to reach the big total. ; Chuck Markey had the only other outstanding solo series. Performing with Schumyer Bakery, he had 255, 228, 176—659 in the Ravenswood | Merchants loop at Broad Ripple. | The newly formed Cathedral high school circuit got under way Sunday at Dezelan’s. The league will continue to bowl on Sundays until the completion of the regular season, when it “will transfer its matches to Tuesday nights. John, Dezelan was the top shooter of the initial session with a 540.

Local League Tenpin Scores

OTHER LEAGUE LEADERS (WOMEN) Betty Murray, Kroger Grocery ...... 476 Violet McGrew, A. & P. ‘“* . 466 Edith Angleton, J. D. Adams . 458 Irene Anderson, Lakeshore Mixed 452

| Alice Shanahan, Stewart-Warner Mxd. 428

Baseball

EXHIBITION GAMES Boston (A) 8, Cincinnati (N) 3 (first

game) Boston (A) 4, Cincinnati (N) 2--(seven innings). 8t. Louis (N) 3, Cleveland (A) 2. Chicago (A) 9, Pittsburgh (N) 4. St. Louis (A) 5, Chicago (N) 4, il - Brooklyn (N) “B"” team 17, New York! (A) “B"” team 6 New York (A) “A” team 17, Beaumont (Tex) 6 {

Philadelphia (A) 5, Baltimore (Int) 1 Brooklyn (N) “A” team §, Jersey City

nt) 3. ‘ Louisville (Assn) 11, Kansas City (Assn)

Montreal (Int) 3, St. Paul (Assn) 1. Milwaukee (Assn) 9, Dallas (Tex) 2

ROG GRAHAM Presents . . .

NOBLE McCORMICK At the piano, 3 to 6

LARRY BINGHAM TRIO “Something Unusual” 8P. M to12 P. M.

Continuous FOOD SERVICE 11 A. M. to 11:30 P. M.

STEAKS — Catfish Chicken — Oysters

ROG GRAHAM'S

Restaurant & Tap Room

and the Fraternal Order of Eagles alleys. The Shrine will get their

Back to-School

LOS ANGELES, April 2 (U. P).— Angelo Bertelli, former Notre Dame star football quarterback, leaves by plane today for South Bend, Ind, to seek permission to enter Notre! Dame for the spring term. He will need special university) permission for a late registration to| graduate in June. Signed to play with the profes-| sional Los Angeles Dons, Serteli will finish his terminal leave as a' marine lieutenant in two weeks.

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Major Leagues’

TUESDAY, APRIL 2 1946

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Clubs Fear More Raids From South of the Border

By WALT BYERS, United Press Sports Writer NEW YORK, April 2.—The big leagues’ low-salary clubs were suffer

ing from an acute case of “peso pains” today, knowing that the Pasquel

brothers of the Mexican baseball league still have a kitty of $19,000,000 to spend on American baseball raids. » .

During the past three days, the

philanthropic Pasquels grabbed five

players with the nonchallance of income tax collectors. And each time,

the Mexican millionaires—in best Pancho Villa tradition—raided the folds of such low paying clubs as the Browns, Dodgers and Giants. Jorge Pasquel, league president and his brother, Bernardo, vice president, have a master spy sys-

.| tem working for them ih the citrus

circuit, ferreting out dissatisfied and underpaid players. When catcher Mickey Owen was discharged from the navy and still had not signed with the Dodgers, the Pasquels nabbed the 29-year-old backstop yesterday before Dodger President Branch Rickey had time to count his money, Their Pesos Plentiful

Three discontented Giant players found solace south of the border Sunday and the day before shortstop Vern Stephens, who claimed the Browns were too stingy on pay day, skipped south and signed with the Vera Cruz club, where he is ensconced as a hero. Big league owners’ predictions that the Pasquels would soon run out of money was strongly denied by the lucrative Latins, who told the United Press in Mexico City that they had set aside $20,000,000 to build up’ America's favorite pastime in Mexico. About $1,000,000 already has been spent, counting the development of parks, organization of the eightteam league and the contracting of 60 foreign players—including 17 exmajor leaguers—who have been lured to the paradise of manana. The five Pasquel brothers have a combined banking, ranching and export fortune of between 50 and 60 million dollars, according to estimates in Mexican financial circles. Jorge, the balding, mustachioed elder, said he could dig deeper than the $20,000,000 if necessary and that the eight clubs had pro-

vided the circuit with an overall

financial backing of $50,000,000. All Contracts Notarized

Jorge also explained to the United Press at Mexico City some of the

league's operations and plans, as |nouncement by President Julius 8, | Bixler.

follows: All. contracts with players are

signed by both parties and noe tarized

The fabulous salaries being paid to big leaguers are exchangeable at five pesos (4.85 exact) for the dollar, (Pive pesos will buy a hot turkey sandwich, salad and a quart bottle of beer in a high-class, down town restaurant in Mexico City). The backers of the league predic they will make money next year, Attendance has averaged approxi mately 20,000 to date with admise sion prices ranging from five pesos ($1) to 15 pesos ($3). The eight member cities and their population are Mexico City (1,464,556), Monterrey (180,924), Puebla (137,324), Tampico (81,000) San Luis ‘Potosi (78,042), Terron (76,613), Vera Cruz (70,000), Nuevo Laredo (10,000). The overall population, according to the 1940 census, was 2,008,459. Jorge Knows Baseball The league originally voted to permit each club to have only eight foreign players on its roster, and only seven on the field at the same time. But Jorge Pasquel has said that rule might be waived, pointe ing out that as more foreign play ers, especially Americans, appear in the lineups the gate receipts jump accordingly. Jorge, who actually holds the power of a commissioner in Mexico, bluntly warned that he plans to continue to raid American clubs as long as he can interest players, He knows the setup of organized baseball in this country intimately, having toured the big leagues last summer and investigated ball parks, club houses and the front offices of many of the big league's leading clubs.

Quits at Colby

WATERVILLE, Me., April 2 (U,P.), —Lt. Cmdr. Nelson W. Nitchman, who has been on leave of absence from his head football coaching berth at Colby college since 1943,

has resigned, according to an ane

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guard of more than 200 amateur | hoxers due Monday for the National | A. A. U. tourney, members of the| Hawaiian fistic “team went sightseeing today. The group reached here yesterday by plane, |

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