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IN ITALY, March 10 (By Wireless) —Gunher Sgt. Jiban Petchal who comes Steubenville, O., saidiy would : He
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I see e. they often time. . So I went over about 8 o'clock ‘and Sergeant Petchal sald, “I didn't put the potatoes on yet. We | were afraid you weren't coming.” The potatoes were already peeled. Petchal sliced some thin and dropped them into a skillet on top of the fiery gasoline stove. When he got ‘them crispy brown
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fluent Spanish, and therefore in Italian, His experience was a gruesome one, although it turned out fine. His plane went into a dive and he couldn’t get to the pilot's compartment, s0 all Tanguma and the other gunner could do was try to get out. They finally made it.
came running and got him down. He gave the parachute to the crowd. Forty-five minutes after his jump he was in a farmhouse eating fried eggs.
ing with him. The Italians wouldn't take money _for_their help. The other gunner got back also,
Self-Taught Engraver
By Ernie Pyle
of Spanish blood, speaks
Sergeant Tanguma is > gets along fairly well
Tanguma landed upside down in a tree. Italians
An Italian volunteered as guide and started walk-
pter representa- , Purdue and Inwill attend.
' he said, “Have you ever eaten eggs scrambled right in with potatoes?” Sergeant Petchal said that’s
NEXT I put down Sgt. Charles Ramseur,-of Gold Hill, N. C. Sergeant Ramseur used to fly with my dive-bombing friend Maj. Ed Bland, and Major Bland
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FRIDAY, MARCH 10, 1944
AUSSIES LAUD CHIVALRY OF U; §. SOLDIER
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| ti general. Finally I started to put down their | names, and one by one I discovered that every boy
way his mother always fixed them, so he broke
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up a few eggs
| potatoes, and served them in the mess kits. They | were wonderful.
The eggs cost 20 cents apiece. seven boys in the tent, all aerial gunand talked for a long time about things
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| in that tent with one exception had been through at feast one violent experience.
Wounded by Flak
. BGT. ROBERT SWEIGERT is from Williamsport, | Pa. The others good-naturedly call him “Pretty Boy,” | because he is sort of suave looking. He had on nething but ghorts, and while I was there he shaved and
says he's tops.
of whiskers. He was feeling a little abashed because the first sergeant had spoken sharply about it that afternoon. When he did shave, he left a mustache >and a straggly little goatee. *
natively refined type you find so often in the hill country in the South. He hopes to be ‘going home soon, although his orders haven't beén put through yet.
in the army. At least it's a form of engraving. He pricks out designs on all his medals with a penknife,
Ramseur was about to shave off a half-inch growth
Ramseur is the quiet, courteous, unschooled but
Ramseur has taught himself engraving since being
| then took a sponge
| spent two months
Antonio, Tex.
| ./@ergeant Sweigert
bath out of a washpan. was wounded once by flak and
in a hospital, Another time his
LP made a crash landing after being badly shot up, | and it broke in two and caught fire when it hit. Yet | the crew escaped. The boys showed me snapshots of the’ demolished plane. : | Then we turned to Sgt. Guadalupe Tanguma, of
He had just got his orders home,
3 may be in America by the time this gets into | print, He was feeling wonderful about it, p ®
Inside Indianapolis By Lowell Nussbaum
shoved $100 through the Glenn to “keep it.” The
His canteen top is covered with names and flight insignia. He has a photo album with aluminum covers made from a German plane, and all over it are engraved names and places. Sergeant Ramseur hopes maybe this talent might lead to an engraver’s job after the war. . On the fiber lining of his steel helmet he has chronicled his missions; with a small bomb representing each one. They cover the entire front of the helmet, and he looks at them with relief. (More tomorrow).
pressed with the courtesy and co-operation of the postal force. Mr. Drake fixed a couple of packages for his son, Cpl. Otis Drake, over in Italy, and mailed them the other day. Within a short time he received
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next day, still very much under the weather, and asked for his Mrs. George Karabell, who be in the box office at that time, told the man he 8 in no condition to handle that much money. “I've just * he
pleaded. you can have the rest when you're sober,” said Mrs. Karabell Cold sober and no little embarrassed, the penitent gent returned yes3 terday moming and gratefully se g collected the remaining $80. Just of thé symphony's services. . . . In case you've what ever happened to the Leach the dope: Mahlon
Colorado's 1st gore that it was districts in Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Even more encouraging to Republicans was their record last week--in New York City, where they polled more than the Democrats in a heavily Democratic district and were nosed out only by labor party ballots. In Denver Tuesday a G. O. P. business man took away from the Democrats a seat they have held since 1932. When Colorado went Republican in 1940, that district remained Democratic by almost . : 10,000. In 1042 its Democratic 1 was 8000. This week's reversal was the more gemarkable because the defeated candidate was a @isabled bomber pilot with all the political glamour of a brilliant war record.
Key to Urban Vote
POLITICIANS IN Washington were watching this Penver test as an indication of urban trends, Demo- | crats admit that the Roosevelt administration is | weak in the rural areas of the North and West, and | that it must depend largely on the city vote in Noi vember, Hence the Republican joy and Democratic [gloom over results in Denver, following the “show of ' @. O. P. strength in Philadelphia and New York i City. ‘ i Nevertheless, national Democratic leaders are reting today what they have said after each failure special congressional elections. They say these . have been local rather than national tests; that * November will be different because the issues will be
‘My Day
2 ¥ SAN JUAN Puerto Rico, Thursday—In Kingston, § Jamaica, we visited the U. 8S. club which is run by Miss Mullaley. _They have a nice building and are doing the most efficient work with a good program of activities covering every day in the week. From there ’ we went to lunch with Mr. and . Mrs. John Lord, our American consul and his wifes: ¢ . We arrived at Kings House yesterday afternoon, where the Governor and Lady Huggins invited us to spend the night. We started out almost immediately to see a very good child welfare center. Here, a woman doctor was busy seeing a crowd of mothers and babies. Quite a bit of excitement was caused by the arrival of 3 ‘one woman who had triplets. Her family already consisted of the large number of seven - ghildren. $ : * At tHe day nursery where women who go to work leave their children and have them cared for at fibpence a day, we saw a number of tiny ones being bottles. Out in the garden, in a number of other youngsters were
a phone call from the postoffice. It was the clerk at window 39 in the registery division. One package was a half ounce over the 8-ounce limit, and the other was an ounce over. The clerk said he didn't just mail the packages back to Mr. Drake because that would have delayed them & day or two. He even offered to help repack them and cut down the weight. Mr. Drake didn’t accept the help but did appreciate the thoughtfulness.
Most Appropriate J BOB OSLER, associate editor of the Insurance Research and Review Service, Inc., sends up a marked page torn from the San Quentin (prison) News that, as he comments, is “definitely the payoff.” The book review column, in a serious vein, starts off thusly: “If you like a fast moving, dynamic ‘who-dun-it,’ we heartily recommend ‘Murder for Two' . . . George Harmon Coxe . .. Alfred Knopf ...N. Y, 1043 ,,. 238 pp... . $2.” . . . A feminine reader passes on to us a chain letter she received recently. The letter: “Lord be merciful on us and our nation. This prayer must go all over the world. If it stops, great misfortune will come to you. As soon as you receive this prayer, send it to 13 persons and great happiness will enter your life. One lady made fun of this prayer and in 13 days she went blind. Den't let this prayer die in your home.” The recipient tells us she didn't send it on—and hasn't had any bad luck. . . . Mrs. Walter Anflerson, co-director in civilian defense for Washington fownship (outside), was interviewed over WFBM recently on “safety,” and then went over to Ayres’ to purchse a musical revolving cake plate. She was fortunate enough to find one, and started home in the rain. She got as far as the alley between Steele's and the light company on Meridian and then her feet went cut from under her on the wet pavement. She sat down hard with the music box on her lap, playing: “Happy birthday to you.” Passersby got a big kick out of the incident. .
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By Ludwell Denny
national and international and because Roosevelt is far stronger than his party or individual congressional candidates. This is one of those half-truths which politicians | may be pardoned for peddling—that’s their racket. It| is not true that these special elections have been fought on local issues in the main, or that the defeated Democrats usually have been weak candidates. Take Denver. To lick the Democratic war hero, the Republican campaigned on the national issue of “less government in business and more business in government.”
Stronger Than Party
BUT IT is trug—and Republicans know it—that President Roosevelt today, as on the eve of his other national campaigns, is still stronger than his party. Therefore no intelligent Republican politician is now certain of the outcome, regardless of his boasts. Even if it were clear that the President would be defeated in an election held tomorrow, many things will happen before November. Because this is a war year, in which military surprises are inevitable and the consequent swing of public emotion is unpredictable, no November forecast today is worth much. President Roosevelt cannot evade much longer national and international decisions and acts—involving congress and our allies, and post-war settlements as well as military victory—which can make him or, break him as a candidate. Likewise, Republicans can increase or lose their present lead. If they fail to provide intelligent and vigorous leadership in congress, if their platform looks backward instead of forward, if they pick a mediocre or irresponsible presidential candidates, if they split instead of unite, the ace politiclan in the White "House is apt to outsmart them and outrun them for the fourth time-—despite the Republicans’ great opportunity. :
By Eleanor Roosevelt
schools in rotation and have a fine reference library —the beginning of a Smithsonian for the island of Jamaica, as a young Rhodes scholar from Rhode Island told me. . Then we drove through some of the poorest quar- _ ters in the city to a recreation club for boys called “Boys' Town.” Boys of every age are kept busy here. during their free hours doing athletics out of doors, learning carpentry-work or tailoring. This. has been going on for two years, and it seemed to me a very
Now Lady Huggins is planning to start a center
for girls of the same type. We paid a brief visit to the tuberculosis sanitarium, which is a very fine hos-
Jital, and then we drove through the beautiful Hope
Gardens, arriving at Kings House where the press was awaiting me for an interview at 5:15 p. m. This left little time to dress before we went down into the gardens to meet a mixed company representing every activity of life on the island.
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government, industrial and social The war has hit these islands very hard. There
Behavior and Their Thoughtfulness.
By NEA Service SYDNEY, Australia, March 10.— You may have heard a good deal of G.I. opinion ‘about Australian girls,
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There's more to it than charm, : All the local girls who help out in the American Red Cross Service club here are agreed that G.Is have charm, but that they don’t rely on it. Chief among the worthy traits that endear our fighters to the girls Down Under are these: They thank a girl when they take her out, and don't expect the girl to thank them. They like to do the chasing; and they chase well. They ask a girl what she would like to do. They don’t greet her with: “We're going to the pictures.” They like to be bossed. You can't boss an Aussie!
Developed a ‘Line’
Pretty, quiet Barbara Garden is charmed by their frankness, by the way they whip out pictures of their sweethearts, wives, kids the moment they start talking, and divulge their life stories, family problems, and love affairs. She doesnt’ think it shows an unseemly lack of reserve. “It would with us, but it's natural with them.” “They're very homely,” says darkeyed Jane Buxton, stationed at the information desk, with the assurance that to an Australian “homely” means “home-loving. “They love to be around children. They're always bringing them presents and taking them for walks . . . and it's ‘Hello, Mom!’ and ‘Hello, Pop!’ when they come for dinner.”
Yanks Are Thoughtful
They have a lot of respect for women, the girls agree. A woman stays on a pedestal with an American until she falls off. And even though the men may come down from the islands with the Guinea gleam in their eye, most of them prefer companionship with a nice girl, and fun. Mostly, the girls are overwhelmed by the thoughtfulness of the American man. They are becoming accustomed to deluges of flowers and gifts, but they're delighted by unexpected little touches of understanding, and the assumption that woman is a frail, ethereal creature unable to cope with the trials of the world and deserving of g. The girls are fast learning to take the famed G.I. “line,” navy “spray” and marine “snow” for what it's They admit they were suckers at first for the soulful how-have-I-managed-to-live-without-you line. But they also have learned to dish out a lot of things besides milk shakes in a Red Cross canteen.
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but chances are that the secret of || their amicable get-a long is con-|° tained in what Australian girls}; think of American service men.|’
(Editor's Note:
WASHINGTON, March 1
The first two Vice Pre
of our history the vice presidency was regarded as truly
second in power and honor ‘to the presidency, and was looked upon as a stepping stone to the chief dffice.
Vice President Once Second B
This is the fourth of five articles on the lore of that often obscure but potentially enormous job, the vice presidency.)
By THOMAS L. STOKES Scripps-Howard Staff Writer
0.—In the very early days
sidents, John Adams and
Thomas Jefferson, later were elected President, Only
one other Vice President ever succeeded to the office hy election—Martin Van Buren, favorite of Andrew Jackson who . dictated his nomination as SUCCessor, The reason for the election as Vice President. of two such able men as Adams and Jefferson was that in those days, with no parties, the man who ran
Thos. L. Stokes second automatically became Vice
President. As parties developed, it was evident that under this system the President and Vice President would be of two different parties. The system was changed with adoption in 1804 of the 12th amendment to the constitution, which required that each elector vote both for President and Vice President, thus assuring that the two offices would be filled from the same party. The Federalist party argued that this amendment altered the original conception of the vice presidency, and that thereafter the vice presidential nomination would be given to mediocre men useful for vote-getting purposes.
Changed Original Conception
The Federalists backed a proposed constitutional amendment to .abolish the vice presidency. The Federalist contention was prophetic, as we have learned. We have become accustomed to the spectacle of the leaders getting together, after nomination of the candidate for President, and shopping around, usually in the deep watches of the night, for somebody who is from another part of
PENICILLIN PIONEER—
By S.J. WOOLF NEA Staff Writer LONDON, March 10.—Entombed in -a small, glass, hermetically sealed tray is the ancestor of most of the penicillin in che world, I held it in my hands the other day when I went to see Prof. Alexander Fleming at St. Mary's hospital. For he Is the bacteriologist who discovered that this mould which he carefully treasures is the source of one of the most powerful antiseptics known to sci= ence. vi ’ As the small, soft-spoken Scotsman sat in his laboratory, which looks more like the rear room of an old-fashioned drug store than the birthplace of a great medical
U.S. TAXES COLLECTED IN INDIANA DOUBLED
Gross collections .of federal taxes in Indiana for the eight-month period ending Feb. 29 were more than double. that for the corresponding period a year ago, Will H. Smith, internal revenue collector, said today. Mr. Smith said collections for the last period were $452,884,045 while the comparative months’ collections were $225,615,451. The gross collections for the first two months of this year showed an increase of $47,303,746 over last year although distilled spirits and gasoline taxes declined. The $9,000,000 increase in income taxes accounted for most of the intrease to $98,865,660.
‘NAZIS’ BASES ATTACKED LONDON, March 10 (U.P.).—A Jugoslav Partisan communique said today that allied airforces had attacked German bases along the southern Dalmatian coast, sinking one enemy cargo vessel and damaging another.
DETAIL FOR TODAY, Blowing Smoke
BLOWING SMOKE means to show off in front of an officer or to try to impress him. If a noncom has a detail under him to move a bunch of crates, everything progresses very nicely, unless an officer just happens to pass by. In that case, the detail becomes of tremendous importance, the very one on which ultimate victory depends. The noncom assumes a dictatorial attitude and barks terse orders to the poor privates. He is blowing smoke.
discovery, it was hard to realize that he is the man who is responsible for the cure of several dread diseases as well as for the great advance in the treatment of wounds during the present war. Heretofore, possible infection made it unwise to close any war wound before six hours. With penicillin, closure can be started at once. Along one wall of the dun-col-ored room in which he works is a long table filled with test tubes, retorts, microscopes and several Bunsen burners. Along another wall were dreary looking walnut book cases also filled with apparatus. ‘There was nothing-about the place reminiscent of the sterilized sanctums of American researchers.
with the usual conception of a modern scientist. Instead of the accepted white coat, he had on & well-worn, spotty, pin-striped blue suit. A cigaret was in his mouth. His conversation was as simple as his dress and his manner.
Stops Bacteria Growth
Taking up a flat pint bottle, which was lying on its side, he explained that the green mould in it was penicillim, while the amber colored liquid upon which this wavy mass floated was the fluid from which penicillin’ was exIn telling of his discovery, he said: “Some 16 years ago I was working on some bacterial cultures. While doing this, the cover of the dish was removed. A few days later I noticed that a spot of mould had formed. A mould spore in the air had fallen on it and grown there. But I also noticed. another thing. This was that the cultures nearest the spot of mould had disappeared, while those at some distance kept growing: ai “I had been working with bacteria ever since I had been graduated from St. Mary's hospital. I was always on the lookout for antibacterial agents. So it was perfectly natural that I should investigate when I noticed this.
Tells of Development
“Accordingly I grew more of this mould from the original by inoculating broths with it and letting it develop at ordinary room tures. This I discovered,
“What a foolish
Continues Study
Nor did the man himself fit in ~
the country and represents perhaps a faction in the party that the presidential candidate does not satisfy. In short, as the Federalists forecast so long ago, he is chosen to help the candidate for President. :
1940 Election a Test
It happened as recently as 1940. President Roosevelt dropped Vice President John N. Garner - and forced a reluctant convention, by his personal power, to take Henry A Wallace, then secretary of agriculture, in order to help the ticket among Western farmers and to provide a New Deal line of succession. The President was so strong with the party that he no longer needed to make any gesture to the conservatives, represented by Mr. Garner. To offset Wendell L. Willkie's power-company and Wall Street background, Republican bosses reached to the opposite end of the country to pick as his running mate the late Senator Charles McNary of Oregon, a friend of public power development, a champion of the farmers and a man astute in politics.
Sop to California Seen _ This year, as far as Democrats
“go, we seem to be in for a reverse - play. With the President needing
conservative support, there is talk of supplanting Vice President Wallace with a conservative, perhaps from the South which is full of noisy discontent. Widely discussed now am Republicans is a Dewey=W. T ticket, linking Governor Dewey of New York with Governor Warren of California, to meet the geographical representation requirement, as well as to court the elec toral votes of populous California. It cannot be said that good men have not been nominated for vice president, but certainly the best
BR as
Artist met artist when Prof.
Calvin Coolidge
“ « « probably was the closest to an actual choice by convention delegates of any candidates.”
man fitted to succeed to the presidency in case of an emergency not always has been chosen. Lots of people have begun to think that perhaps this is the year when some care should be taken, because of the war and its, burdens on the presidency, and because the post-war period Is sure to raise problems requiring the best that the nation can find in both the presidency and vic presidency. . The reconstruction era we are facing bears some resemblance, at least in the scope of its problems,
to another reconstruction period.
Only six days after the civil war was ended at Appomattox, an asgassin's bullet suddenly changed the leadership in the White House, and<Andrew Johnson stepped forward to bear the tremendous burden of reconstruction.
Held in Low Repute
Whéther he handled the desperate situation as well as another might have handled it, shackled as any President would have been by the radical bloc in congress, is still a subject of historical controversy. But it is a fact that many people at the time, especially in the South, held a low opinion of Abraham Lincoln's successor, and that for some years after the civil war political conventions exercised
Modest Scot, Discoverer of Famed Drug, in London Laboratory
Res
& eR Alexander Fleming posed for this
portrait by S. J. Woolf. The Scotch scientist makes a hobby of painting with bright bacterial cultures,
it stopped the growth of bacteria, did not affect white corpuscles. “Now this was most important. For the white blood corpuscles themselves are germ killers, and most antiseptics are as destructive to their allies in the war against disease as they are to the bacteria causing the disease. Penicillin is unlike the sulfa drugs inasmuch as it is non-toxic. And while it does not kill the bacteria, it prevents them from developing.” As Prof. Fleming walked about his laboratory he took up one test tube after another, showing me how the penicillin was produced. The whole process seemed ridiculously simple. Nor did he fail to mention that others had carried on many experiments to determine the therapeutical value of the new drug. Notwithstanding the eminence he has attained, he still remains the unassuming farmer boy who was born 50-odd years ago in Darvel, in Ayrshire, Scotland. T Chance Discovery There was a sly humor about him, and when I asked him how he happéned to become a bacteriologist, he smiled as he answered, “It was just an accident. There was a vacancy in the laboratory here when I was graduated, and the position was offered to me.” It was from others I learned that
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Most of his time is spent in his laboratory developing penicillin, for he forsees powerful new derivatives as a possibility in the future. Holding an ever-present —cigaret in his square-tipped fingers, he pointed out that while the new drug is effective in many diseases, it is powerless against some. He’ also added that the technique of its administration was still a subject for experiment. - . Although he likes to row and swim, he has little time for either these days. He also is tremendously interested in art and has tried his hand at painting. In this he also has been original, for instead of using artists’ pigments he has turned te gay colored bacterial culture for his medium. “Most scientists gre in a sense artists,” he said. “U' they have vision, they can do comparatively little with their formulae.”
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more care in picking candidates for vice president. Louis Clinton Hatch, in his authoritative history of the vice presidency in the United States, concludes after his exhaustive _
. study of the subject:
“Greater care on the part of party managers in the choosing of vice presidential candidates is needed. . . . Many Republicans regretted exceedingly the nomination of Andrew Jackson and his ta_power in a critical time. Their resolve not to repeat the
"error led, in 1868, fo the most
spirited contest for the vice presidential nomination in the history of that party, but by 1880 the lesson had been entirely forgotten.”
Rates Six Who Succeeded
Mr. Hatch thus rates the six presidents who succeeded from the vice presidency through death of the president: Johnson, ineffective; John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Chester A. Arthur, Calvin Coolidge, all mediocre; Theodore Roosevelt, among the ablest. It is significant that Theodore Roosevelt was picked to run with McKinley for an unorthodox reason. Boss Thomas C. Platt of New York found the young man too progressive and too unpredictahle as Governor of New York, and arranged his nomination in order to bury him in the vice presidency, so that he would no longer have such a springboard to the presidency as the governor ship afforded. Calvin Coolidge, the last of our vice presidents to become President, probably was the closest to an actual choice by convention delegates of any of our vice presidential candidates. It is true that Senator Hiram Johnson of California was offered the nomination by the leaders who had picked Warren G. Harding for the presidential] nomination, but he refused. When the nomination was thrown open to the convention itself a wave of enthusiasm swept the delegates for the tight-lipped Massachusetts governor who had made a national reputation through his handling of the Boston police strike.
Next: ents Dog’t Love V. PJs.
CHAPLIN CLAIMS ERROR IN GASE
Comedian Asks Appellate Court to Dismiss Paternity Charge.
HOLLYWOOD, March 10 (U. P.). —Much-lawed - against Charlie Chaplin today petitioned the district appellate court to dismiss the paternity suit of Joan Barry, who says his dramatic tutelage cast her in the unexpected role of a mother. The silver-haired movie comedian said Superior Judge Stanley Mosk erred in refusing to dismiss the action. He," Miss Barry, her mother, and their respective attorneys had agreed, he said, that the accusation would be dropped if & blood test should show he could not possibly be the father of five-months-old Carol Ann Barry. The test so showed, he said, but Miss Barry dropped her attorney instead of the case. They kept the $15,000 he paid for the support of the child as part of the agreement, he said, but delib~ erately violated the remainder of it.
To Appear March 31
In federal court, Judge J. F. T. O'Connor set March 31 for Chaplin's appearance with two friends and four Beverly Hills functionaries on charges of violating his former protege’s civil rights, O'Connor said he wouldn't be able to wade through the mass of documents presented so far before the end of the month. By that time, Chaplin's trial on Mann act charges for taking Miss Barry to New York and back, should be in its final stages. Judge O'Connor refused yesterday
court, and ordered trial for Chaplin.
INDIANA CENTRAL PAPER IS STAFFED
junior, has been named -editor of
editor. Todd, Crawfordsville, a senior,
HOLD EVERYTHING
JUNIOR ELECTED AT
Richard Smith, Hewitt, Minn,
at Indiana Central college.
INDIANA CENTRAL
junior,- has been elected president of the Student Christian association
Other officers are Glenn Catlin, | Decatur, Ill, vice president; Patri-
to throw the conspiracy case out of
. Charlotte Delasmit, Anderson, &
the Indiana Central college Res ~ flector, student paper. Fred Yohey,
Muncie, a sophomore, is associate Miss Delasmit succeeds Robert
