Indianapolis Times, Indianapolis, Marion County, 18 October 1940 — Page 32
PAGE 32 Layden Has a Few Words for Those Kibitzers Who Like to Make Point Bets
That Done, Elmer Takes Tennessee Over Alabama And lowa Over Indiana
By ¥LMER LAYDEN
: Notre Dame Coach
I received two telegrams after our Georgia Tech game from alleged . Notre Dame fans who were “walking out” on us for reasons they did not express. The bitterness of their language betrayed the breed. They Were points-gamblers. Georgia Tech had scored more points than they had figured on. A small loyalty bet which does nobody any harm is all right. Bul we are not playing with any regard for the benefit of gamblers. We have football primarily because boys like to play. foothall and it's a good same for them. Naturally, 1 try to pick as many winners as possible. But 1 dont guarantee them. Your hunch 1§ as good as mine, the consensus of expeits last week, but I also took Wake Forest in a tossup. Look what happened to
True, 1 selected Navy, against |
The New Hope at
Wake Forest—lhcked 39-0 by Clemson. : | My experience as a coach may help me weigh |
the respective values of certain teams on a given! Saturday a little more accurately than the layman.
jut even the expert who makes a business of pick- |
ing foothall winners—which I do not—doesn't always Mr. possess all the facts. 3 As for this week, the outstanding game in the South is Tennessee-Alabama. The 'Bams haven't been so high of late, but, their past supremacy and the possibility that they may be hack in the running this season makes theni a worthy opponent, at least ‘a significant test, for ‘top-ranking Tenuessee, Unless Alabama has more stuff than so far unveiled, the Vols should win handily, Texas Aegies-T. C. U. head the program in the Southwest, My pick is the Acgies, but it should be al TET grand game. 3 | Shaughnessy makes the StanfordIn the Fast the major eames washington State game of outwhich promise the most scrap are : S Penn-Princeton and Fordham-Pitt. standing interest in the Far West. The Quikers are riding big and I'm back on Stanford. Washington the Tigers have a chance to give | will be watched with particular inbut I don’t think terest in the Oregon State battle,
them a hard fall; from which the Huskies will emerge
Layden
they will.
Fordham ‘Coming Alony’ on top. There's special curiosity The Pitt Panthers feared S. M. es Callas Has yint , eo ; : S y hung up a U. and a tie was at least as good| victory. If they get past Oregon, as they expected in advance. On|theyre on their way again. U. C. L. the other hand, by scoring first] A. should take California, but there they must have developed - illusions| 27 UPset possibilities ; of an upset, so that a tie became] Tleisserionally, J looks lige ! Pe by, BU; bole 3 ¥ | Mississippi is in for a smirch on a a disappointment after all, The clean escuicheon at the hands of Panthers, therefore, should be in!Duquesne. §. M.: U and Auburn a moderate moad Saturday and)|
that spells Fordham. end up good for the Mustangs.
Those Rams,” hy the way, are Holly Cross was realy hot 9 vel = ; Ys > 1 qi S a oi ) E A coming along without fanfare thist FEAT igs Teh ol en di Toe as significant 8% Tartans. The latter are much het-
All eyes are bound to turn on) dicated. powerful Cornell, ‘and, in spite of would be the astonishing Syracuse reversal) wee - of form last week, the Big Red the I should not be hothered. The Western Conference card is
loaded with dynamite. The Indiana
Otherwise, Notre Dame a certain favorite this end. As it is, though I pick
{D0 means in the bag. If Muha's fankle responds to rest and treatSatie has 5 chance to thie ment during the week, if the Taraa HL OB tans come into the game with their Iowa, but only a letdown in mood | cial spark, it will be a bang-up can beat the Hawkeyes, and Eddie}. tle: ? Bigg Anderson will avoid that. Illinois | The Danger Spots is out ‘to make trouble again for ; Michigan, but Harmon & Co. will] Outside of the games mentioned, avenge last year's upset. Speaking|there are 16 upset possibilities— of comparative scores, that 40-0 games where the odds strongly win of Northwestern's over Syra- support the favorites, Boston Colcuse, who upset N. Y. U, 47-13, last;lege, Duke, Navy, Holy Cross, Corweek, makes especially good sense nell, West Virginia, Marquette, when you’ keep in mind that 6-3: Butler, Oklahoma, L. S, U, Missisdoes not express the full Purple'sippi State, North Carolina, Wake superiority over Ohio State. There-| Forest, Utah, and St. Mary's of fore, although Wisconsin was better the Coast look sure fire—so prethan the 12-30 rout by Iowa, the|pare to be surprised here and there. Wildcat will outclaw the Badger.| Centenary, Boston U., Georgia, Ohio U., Rice, Harvard, Yale, Penn | State, Akron, Minnesota-Ohio State? If Min-|leyan, Baldwin-Wallace, Missouri, nesota loses, I'm sure to get-a fan Oklahoma A. & M, Florida, Kentelegram calling me a jinx to Go-|tucky, Davidson, Washington-Lee, phers. I haven't pick Minnesota, Virginia, Denver, San Francisco, to win this season—until now. and Gonzaga should win Stanford's unpredicted resurgence games, but don't be amazed if they
victory form under Clark don't.
Layden’s on Stanford
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Times Special ELOOMINGTON, Ind. Oct.
Bob White took Zimmer's place in the right halfback spot in a final workout yesterday, since Red is still | handicapped a little hy injuries. But | it’s no secret on the campus that | Zimmer is the No. 1 hope as a breakaway runner against the big, | |hurly Hawkeyes, In support of | this Hoosier backers will have you | [review the record of the Big Ten's| "tiniest back, Against Texas, Zimmer carried | the ball five times and gained: a net [total of 17 yards, which is out- | standing simply because Indiana's entire average was oly 11. Against Nebraska the redhaired {one toted the ball three times and gained a nel total of 21 yards, be- | sides catching the touchdown pass jon the seven-yard line and pulling two husky Cornhusk-
away from ers. Last season he caught one of the touchdown passes against Iowa and ‘mn the 1939 opener against Nebraska he returned two kickoffs 88 yards. But Zimmer isn’t the solution to all of Coach Bo McMillin’s backfield troubles. Slowed for two weeks by an injury, Harry (Tuffy) Brooks returned to practice this week but was limping again on a sore ankle before the drill was over. Soph-
| Harold (Red) Zimmer . . . Hoosier getaway man.
Red Zimmer May Be the One To Break I. U. Doldrums
18.—Despite the fact he may not be L in the starting lineup tomorrow, down here the talk from Indiana Ave. man’s Gymnasium, New York, so to the Quad is that pint-sized Red Zimnier may be the man to make Indiana's home-coming a happy one.
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Indiana University Conn Favored,
2-3, to Whip McCoy Tonight
- Billy Continues Drive for, Shot at Louis
BOSTON, Oct. 18 (U. P.).—Handsome Billy Conn is a 5-3 favorite to beat Al McCoy, New England heavyweight champion, tonight at the Garden, and thus continue his campaign toward the world heavyweight title. * Conn, who already holds the light heavyweight crown, is favored over 26-year-old McCoy in this 10-round non-title tilt because of his youth, speed, skill and stamina.
Dangerous for Conn
Yet, many experts regard it as a dangerous bout for Conn because he is a slow starter; because it is only a 10-round affair, and because McCoy is a busy, hard-hitting mauler
forts might easily offset Conn's later surge. Al will outweigh Billy about 182 pounds to 176. Handsome Billy, only 21, will be making his first ring appearance since the stopped Bob Pastor in the 13th round at New York on Sept. 6, after landing several low blows. McCoy has been fighting for 10 years. And he was good enough in 1940 to knock out Nathan Mann and outpoint Melio Bettina, the southpaw from whom Conn won the light heavy diadem
Arcel Trains McCoy
Sharpening for this bout, McCoy did most of his training at Still-
tha? he would have the sole benefit of Ray Arcel’s instructions. Arcel, one of the best trainers in the game, will be in Al's corner tonight. Conn concluded his training at Kelley and Hayes’ Gym in Boston, but was not too impressive. Promoter Mike Jacobs of New York apparently hopes that Conn will defeat McCoy and go on to beat two or three -other prominent heavies, thus readying himself for Louis in June,
Paddles Surfboard’ 82 Miles in 30 Hours
HONOLULU, Oct. 18 (U.P.)— Gene. Smith, one of the huskiest beach boys on the Island of Oahu, nursed a sore, sunburned back today, result of his having paddled a surfboard from Honolulu to Nawiliwili Bay on the Island of Kauai, a distance of 82 miles in 30 hours. Smith's paddleboard was rigged with covered bow to protect a compass, the only instrument he ecarried. He was accompanied on his jaunt by Bob Topping’s cruiser, Wanderer. =
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turing jolting Ray Murphy and fleet-hooved Bill Green. The Hawkeyes will oppose the Hoosiers with a line scaling a shade below 195.
Harris Denies Indian Deal
CAPE HATTERAS, N. C., Oct. 18 (U. P.).—Bucky Harris, manager of the Washington baseball team, said today he was not negotiating with officials of the Cleveland club to
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Fights Tonight
Joe Sgro . .. the tops in Indianapolis Golden Gloves.
18 Simon-Pures
On Program
Eighteen top-flight simon-pures will see action tonight at the Armory, 711 N. Pennsylvania St,, in an all-star .boxing program sponsored by the Indianapolis Amateur Boxing Association. Matchmaker Fred DeBorde has selected the cream of the amateur crop to appear in the nine bouts and believes the card to be the strongest ever to be offered local fight fans. The complete card follows: Five Rounds—Heavyweights Vic Hutton, Anderson, vs, Charles Durcan, Westside A. C. Four Rounds—145 Pounds Milton Bess, Bess A. C., vs. Jesse Johnson, Leeper A, C. Three Rounds—135 Pounds Joe Sgro, English Ave. B. C, vs. Buddy Jones, Leeper A. C. Three Rounds—130 Pounds Earl Paul, Rhodius C. C., vs. Raymand Glenn, unattached. Three Rounds—115 Pounds
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competition its equal in Ohio Wesleyan. Apparently not satisfied with | an attack that has netted 86 points |
: Xs J Old Gold Day festivities at Green-| C . A WN FE S castle. A in 120 minutes, Coach Gaumy Neal | of the Tigers has passed out new
After mauling two of its league | brothers, DePauw goes out against | formations for this contest. f Pass Is Stressed :
Pass defense also has been given attention this week in the DePauw camp, mainly because Franklin took to the air for both its touchdowns last Saturday against the Tigers. The squad has been pronounced in top shape, with the exception of Dick Brown, reserve tackle, who is likely to be on the injured list. { Although the Bishops are undefeated, they have been tied twice and have only one victory to their credit, a 24-7 triumph over Miami University. Games with Muskingum and Wayne were scoreless. ' Ohio Wesleyan is bringing: not only its team but its band of 65 ‘pieces and a marching glee club of 50 male voices. .
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Ball State, winner of one, loser! of one and sharer in ohne tie, will open its Conference bid against
Manchester, The Cardinals are ex-
pected to be in tiptop form Jor the : battle, with three injured backs— Jimmy Phend, Dale Fisher and Al- HIT7, bert Becker—back in the lineup. nb » With Glenn Kistler, star ball- ia carrier, a doubtful starter, Manchester has been bolstering its air attack this week in preparation for the game. Valparaiso and Central Normal
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onmore Iiarl Doloway glso was put jon the casualty list with an in- | Jured foot, On the bright side, however, is Hal Hursh's wuerial circus which has had Coach Eddie Anderson of | Towa worrying all week. The Hoosiers razzle-dazzled right {along with the Hawkeyes last year | (tou lose a close 32-29 decision. They | figure they can do it again this| ANNAPOLIS, Oct. 18 (NEA)—
manage the Indians next year. “The whole thing is untrue,” Harris said, denying reports he had been offered a one year contract to manage Cleveland. “I'm not negotiating with anyone-—just fishing off the Capes.”
Tosses ’Em for Navy
Harriers Win Easily
Indiana Central harriers took four
of the first five places to score a 19-36 cross-country victory over Wabash yesterday. James Miller of the Greyhounds led the pack!
miles in 22:49, Joaquin Montoya of Indiana Central finished second, followed by Porbes of Wabash. Fourth and!
| year on their home sod. Johnny Harrell, Navy sophomore Iowa may not have the aerial of- (fullback, is a former collegiate fense—or perhaps defense—but it heavyweight wrestling boasts a strong running attack fea-'from Oklahoma A. & M. |
fifth places went to Gordon Adams
champion and William Brett, both of Indiana vs. Bobbie Roberts, Ft. Harrison.
Central.
home, doing the four and a half Durham, unattached.
lock horns in another league contest, with not a whole lot to choose between the two. Valpo lost to St. Joe but won {from Indiana State, while Gentral Normal played Earlham to a tie but bowed to Manchester.
Quakers to Battle
A ‘battle of the.Quakers” is in the offing at Richmond, where Earlham will engage Swarthmore’s eleven from Philadelphia. The game will be played-before a homecoming crowd that is expected to be one of the largest ever to gather
Elmo Latta, Leeper *. C., vs. Clifford Goodwin, Rhodius C. C. Three Rounds—118 Pounds A. C. Lee, Hill C. C,, vs. Billy Carlisle, Leeper A. C. Three Rounds—145 Pounds Dave Taylor, Peru, Ind. vs. Jack
Three Rounds—145 Pounds Charles Spurling, unattached, vs. Arnald Deer, South Side Turners. Three Rounds—145 Pounds Sam Haslett, English Ave. B. C.,
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at Reid Field.*® The Philadelphia Quakers will; bring along a record of one victory and one - defeat, while Earlham played Central Normal to a tie and] dropped a 3-0 decision to Wabash. | Swarthmore defeated Earlham, 15-0, when they met two years ago at Philadelphia. ? Evansville College's Purple Aces, unbeaten in league competition, will invade Renssalear to do battle with the St. Joe Pumas. Both squads are in good condition, with the exception of Dick Cody, Puma center who is nursing a finger ‘injury. Word from the St. Joe camp is that Coach Joe Dienhart has uncovered a. new fullback in Dick Nee,
Loser vs. Loser
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A battle of the losers is lined up| at Hanover. Franklin will carry aj record of three straight losses into the game against Hanover's four | straight on the red side of the | ledger. Optimism was felt in the { Hanover camp this week with the ‘return of two linemen. Herman Bell land Bob Ronald. Two Franklin backs and a guard still are nursing | injuries suffered in . last week's | battle with DePauw,
two schools have played 26 games, | | Hanover winning nine, Franklin 14, {and three ending in deadlocks. Things are in a happy state in Terre Haute as Indiana State em- ‘| barks on - the second half of its | schedule with a record of two wins, {one loss and a tie. This record Is {the best the Sycamores have had ‘in six years. Coach Wally Marks has been tinkering with his lineup! ‘and expects to start fullback Gene | Faubion at quarter and use Jack | Bradbury, experienced lineman and (fullback, also at the signal-calling spot.
Park Frosh Meet Irish Tuesday
Park School's freshman football team, loser to Broad Ripple’s yearlings, 13-7, will meet the Cathedral rhinies next Tuesday. A sleeper-pass play gave the Rockets their victory yesterday. The toss was from Don Bland to James Wendling.
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Times Special - ANN ARBOR, Mich, Oct. 18.—Al Wistert, Michigan's sensational sophomore tackle, this year always | wears a rubber mouth piece during | practice ‘sessions and during games. Wistert has a peg tooth which he fears might some day be jarred loose, hence the precaution. >
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