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WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 9, 1940

WHY WE ARE FOR WILLKIE: THIRD-TERM DANGER GROWS : N a‘century and a half of recurrent controversy over the third-term question it is significant, we think, that the no’s have alway had it. | More than ever does Thomas Jefferson seem to have reasoned wiselr when, ia declining a third term, he said: “If some termination of the office of the chief magistrate be not fixed by the Constitution, or supplied by practice, his office, nominally for years, will in fact become for life; and history shows how easily that degenerates into an

inheritance.” w #2 8 2.8 n True, the Constitutional Convention of 1787, after long

debate, left the question open. Tradition and practice have supplied the only check.

But the far strenger reason for maintaining that check today was cogently put by James Truslow Adams, eminent | living American historian, when he told a Senate committee last month | “We should not forget that the problem of how long a | President might serve was inseparably connected with the | method of electing him and the important point of who | would elect him. Ifad the members of the Constitutional

Convention dreamed of the enormous patronage and money

which would eventually be at his disposal and that he would | appeal directly to the entire populace for election to office, the discussion, 1n my opinion, would undoubtedly have | taken a very different turn and both his powers and length of service would have been further curtailed.” : Similar recognition of the immense and unforeseen in- | crease in Presidential influence, and of the peril involved, | was registered hy Grover Cleveland when, in accepting the | Democratic nomination for President, he said: | “When we consider the patronage of this great office, the allurements of power, the temptation to retain public office once gained, and, more than all, the availability of | public funds in an incumbent whom a herd of office seekers, with a memory of benefits received and the possibility of | favors still to come, stand ready to aid with money and trained political assistance, we recognize in the eligibility | of a President for re-election the most serious danger to |

| ‘beginning. He was going to put people back to work,

| of private investment so that the Government's bonds |

Fair Enough

By Westbrook Pegler

Voted for Roosevelt Twice but Now Realizes New Deal Won't or Can't Do Anything to Bring Recovery

EW YORK, Oct. 9—Well, as I was saying, I: emerged from my political childhood into adolescence about the time of Mr. Roosevelt's first election, for which I was responsible to the.extent of one vote, and this spell or rather high-strung emotional confusion lasted through the campaign of 1936, when I voted for him again. That election was just a for.mality, anyway. The Republicans weren't in shape, and you could tell they were only going through the motions when they nominated | ‘Alf Landon. : Even so, the returns weren't as | bad as we all have been thinking | in our careless way. In claiming | their overwhelming mandate and the virtual repudiatiton of the | two-party system in the United | States the New Deal emphasized the electoral vote, | which was 523 to 8, and the fact that they carried 46 out of 48 states. But, after all, even with Landon in | there, the Republicans ran up a score of about 16% to Mr. Roosevelt's 27% in the popular vote, which brings the ratio down to much more respectable trim. o ” 2

A TTVAY, I was still voting for Mr. Roosevelt in 4 1936, and this time I think I was more against | his enemies than for him. He had tangled with Huey | Long, who was, to my way of thinking, a really bad man, and Father Coughlin was snarling in a way that

.seemed to me to portend some terrible disturbance

and no good result. It isn’t for me to say—although I have my private opinion—whether I have now come to political maturity, stood still or slipped back into rompers. But during this second term of the New Deal I have been wondering how long it is going to take our President to get hot about recovery. and re-employment, which you may remember were his missions hack in the very

and they were going to spend their earnings buying the stuff which their neighbors had manufactured and grown. But in this term we have heard less and, lately, nothing about recovery. And re-employment, except in the munitions trade and other lines incidental to rearmament, is off the program entirely. I never heard President Roosevelt say a kind word for business—by which I mean private business—and have come to the conclusion that, if he ever did mean to try to achieve recovery through re-employment in private industry, he has abandoned the idea. I don't believe he was fotally against business in the beginning, but think he finally came to the conclusion | that the state—meaning the Government-—must be- | come the great boss of us all. 2 8 8 ~NIVE the Government total control of business, dis- | “credit businessmen as a class, keep money out |

become the only investment, make business come to |

a system not much different from Adolf Hitler's. 1 want to see private business revive, because ex- | perience certainly shows that wherever the employers | are only straw hosses working for the Government | nobody has ahy liberties. shortsighted, because they ought to realize that in

such a situation their unions, like the German unions, (and go up. : would become Government auxiliaries and soon lose |the bottom, then why does Elliott | Roosevelt get an appointment?

their entity altogether. I certainly don't claim to know whether Mr, Willkie could revive private busi- |

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‘But They Weren't Indispensable’

WASHINGTON. B JEFFERSON AND

JACKSON REJECTED

A B THIRD TERM

WANTS A CAPTAINCY

| the Government for orders and loans, and you have FOR HIS BOY, TOO | By Claude Kendall

am wondering if my boy can bs

Our labor leaders are very |appointed a captain in the service tor if he must start from the ground

. The Hoosier Forum I wholly disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.—Voltaire.

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views in

Can my boy be a captain, too? 1

If he must start from

He is no smarter than thousands

“WEDNESDAY, OCT. Y 1940 Gen. Johnson Says—

Lacks Faith in Polls but Believes Them Accurate in Showing FDR's Strength to Be With Gimme Groups

ASHINGTON, Oct. 9.—This is another piece about these dopester polls that tell you all about elections before they happen. I don't believe in them. Their accuracy depends too much on their timing, the way they aje conducted and the wording of tne questions. They can hava. great effect to sway voters. These polls - do not register secret ballot. They do not even register>a sample “yes” or ‘no.” They are frequently built up on a series of more or less technical questions, sometimes so framed as to persuade a particular answer which the enumerator interprets, In view of their great influence, it seems to me that’'all polls require both investigation and regulation in the public interest. They cer= tainly do not deserve to be swale lowed whole. : I don't dispute their posible value (1) as some indication of shifts and trends in public thinking, and (2) as an even better indication when actual choice closely approaches, and the simple question is “Do you favor X or Y?” 8 But the folly of making conclusions on these polls is apparent. Most people don’t have time to study them. A flat statement such as ‘Dr. Gallup recently made that his study showed 499 electoral votes for Roosevelt with 42 states and 32 votes for Willkie with six~ states, sounds almost as impressive as the 1936 election returns when Mr. Roosevelt carried 46 states. ” n ” B however inaccurate, except as to trend, an exe amination of this and other polls in detail shows a surprising reversal of popular opinion. In 1936, Mr. Roosevelt carried 27.4 million voters to Mr. Landon's

| 16.6 million—almost 66 per cent or a majority of 10.8 | millions.

The poll of American Forecasts, Inc.—a

competitor of Dr. Gallup’s—predicts 23.7 millions tor Mr, Roosevelt and 21.2 millions for Mr. Willkie—a 53 per cent majority. or only a‘2.5 million majority, “On what a falling off was there.” Consider the states shown on the Gallup Poll with less than a 4 per cent majority (Dr. Gallup's claimed margin of error) for Mr. Roosevelt—all of which arse shown on the Dunn Survey as safely. for Willkie, Cons sider also that the American Opinion Forecast, Inc., Poll is 2 per cent less favorable to Mr. Roosevelt than

recognized university but who professes (after two terms of uninterrupted failures) to cure us by practicing further deceitful hocus-pocus and treacherous economic rigamarole. He would not hesitate to pre-

scribe a [thoroughly good total war ig]

as a defirjite kill or cure measure.

| Dr. Gallup's. thi Roosevelt is licked right now.

| polls either way.

Consider both of these things and Mr.

I come to no such conclusions. I don't trust these This is going to be a very close

| election. The Democrats are dumb if they are lulled

| by this sweet news.

| they become

The Republicans are quitters if defeatists because of any such cheap

| stuff. : = ical quack, is a graduate of no |

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America also has offered to her |

a man Who accredited school

is a graduate of an| (albeit a sound

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F one thing all polls speak of so overwhelmingly, unanimously and significantly that I am willing to “trust it.. Mr. Roosevelt's strength doesn’t reside in his policies—foreign or domestic—in the American middle class or in any place but in the Solid South— which has been in political bondage since the Civil War—and. elsewhere and more importantly only in the “gimme”. groups where he has squandered billions to take from the “haves to give to the have-nots.” The polls show that if Mr. Roosevelt wins, he will have bought the election with direct Federal sub-

iber ig action which must | amen. that calm, deliberate and intelligent ac Midwestern state university), a man

sidies and without them he couldn't carry 10 states. That is not principle. That is papa. The Dunn Survey proves that in doubtful states— where 2-or 2 per cent swing the issue—the fluctuating New Deal vote—and the election—depend singly, solely and absolutely on the total number of names on WPA pay rolls. Statistically every WPA name on the rolls means four votes. It is not quite®accurate bit not untrue that every name off relief and into a regular job is more than one vote for Willkie. . Just now the WPA rolls are low enough in critical

Of course

i ‘er r ' res ‘ment esi= ther American boys. am character vernment by the people.” ness and employment, but I am convinced that Presi- of o ys. ; |= : 5 EE ginpmiel a gov ; Beet | dent Roosevelt either doesn’t want to or thinks it is [they all can’t be President's sons. the piper when the 1941 tax bill, any Local StoROMiE wl ; 2 iin .o | Impossible and not worth the effort. {Our boys who have forgotten more, (which the present bunch in Wash- co 0 Fpaltos Loos ong Cleveland's words might have been describing the pre- “ryan “00, T have reached a belief that, after hold- than Capt. Roosevelt will ever know ington did not dare to pass A IR cise position in which President Roosevelt stands today. ing so much power so long, the New Deal crowd has Will sure be glad to serve their election day) comes out of Congress. SWE “ol Pon or oon 0 i b : : : pe ; lost its moral bearings and has become so cynical country under Capt. Roosevelt. ‘No matter who is elected, Santa ooo tobay. 10 pertomy the. desi In pushing his third-term ambitions, Mr. Roosevelt en- | that they are nn better than those whom they | Again I say, can my boy be ap- Claus will be out of if and you Will erately Heeded transfusion of sound | counters something tar bigger than partisanship or pre- | narassed with such pious fury 'way back in the early | y1 judice.

ointed captain in the U. S. service? hear more about working an ay- |; : ted days. They seem not to know that wrong is wrong ® 2 82 8 wy | ing than you do about welfare, | We Jobs and sound non-political re- ’ now. ) He has against him history, tradition, precedent and an | d co established American principle, the soundness of which he liked Mr. Roosevelt real well in 1932. Says—" as reprinted in The Indian- “classes” in America where people fore I hear the death rattle. ; / v apolis Times on Oct. 5: are always going from riches to #88 A Woman S Vie point

: p i or i ~larmament into the emaciated AmerEn "TRIPS THE GENERAL are going to go to work either as| I never thought it would come to this with me. I is demonstrating by the very methods he uses to smash it. B . “An influence strong and bold poverty and from poverty to riches, pryvGCRAT FOR WILLKIE

| free men or by dictation. If you do ican economy. yl {ON HIS GRAMMAR not believe this, don’t get red in the | Which |will we choose—confidence states to defeat Roosevelt, - He could win the election By John T. Flynn | enough to persuade decent men like what class do you believe drives our| “7% ‘ Y Y | Henry Wallace and Herbert Leh-| 30 million motor cars, (one to every ON 3D TERM ISSUE

face about it, wait 10 months and man ang quack or a scientific.| by increasing them in some key states. That I thing

By Ds Thagoras methodical man of experience in| is undoubtedly true. But it is a hell of a note. Careful Watch on Prices Urged as ‘man to throw that Hitler dead cat four persons including babies), Who By Ernest EE. Watkins

A MANDATE FOR WAR?

ENRY WALLACE was the first to voice the novel By Mrs. Walter Ferguson

| see. C+ f rien I quote from “Gen. Johnson| If you believe that there: are this crisis? I'll call on Willkie be: : rare bold enough to try anything.” |listens to 28 million radios and owns

HE story of Jessie Reed, who was, not so long ago,

they speak.

argument that Mr. Roosevelt should be given a third

term because that would make Hitler and Mussolini un- |

happy. Then Governor Lehman took up the cry. . And lately the President himself has given the idea his blessing. Since the New Dealers are raising this as the dominant issue of the campaign, maybe we had better consider ils

implications and ask where we go from here. E

There is no evidence to support the theme that Hitler®

and Mussolini really do desire the defeat of Mr. Roosevelt | ; —at least none visible to the naked eye of a layman. Hew- RS

ever, it must be admitted that the Administration's insiders know much more than we outsiders do about our Government’s foreign relations, policies and commitments. And

conceivably Hitler and Mussolini might also know more §

than has been confided to rank-and-file American voters. Let us grant then that the third termers know whereof Having granted that, another question arises: Why should the Axis want to see Mr. Roosevelt defeated? Wendell Willkie has been equally vehement in denounc- | ing the European dictators and equally strong in pledging support to Great Britain. So Hitler and Mussolini could have no choice on that score. Moreover, on the record, Mr. Roosevelt hasn't been very effective in speeding up Amer- | ica’s armament program. And, on the record, Mr. Willkie | would be much more likely to get that job done, fast. So there would'seem to be only one remaining reason why Hitler and Mussolini possibly could—if they do—prefer Mr. Willkie’s election. That would be a belief on their part that Mr. Roosevelt, if he wins, will lead the United States into active participation in the European war. Mr. Roosevelt has solemnly promised that he will not take this country into that war over there. Millions of Americans have been supporting him because of their faith in this promise, and in his assurances that the rearmament billions and the. manpower conscription are for defense only. Before they cast their ballots next month Americans are entitled to ask how much smoke there is behind the New Deal battle-cry that a vote for Roosevelt is a vote against Hitler and Mussolini. One thing is certain: Americans will never consciously give a majority mandate for war.

BARRED FROM THE BALLOT E believe we know why the State Board of Elections “barred Communists from the November ballot, but we cannot be sure. | A minority party has to file 7798 signatures in order to comply with the requirements. Since the Communists filed only a few more than the required number of names, it is probable that the normal number of errors to be found in any group of petitions would have been enough to invalidate their claim. : As we said earlier, we think that was the situation. But for thg protection of other and ‘more decent minor-

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Sprightly War Boom Seems Likely | Tsk, tsk, General Are it?

EW YORK. Oct. 9.—There can be no longer any doubt that business activity -is on the verge of a great lift due to the huge Government defense proram, butter are going to get both. The Government has not yet hegun to pour its money into the defense program. And for this reason the Government deficits are not as great this year as last.

ernment was pouring out its funds directly on WPA and PWA and similar activities, while this year it is spending on national defense. In this case the Government makes a contract with a private firm. The private firm pays out the money first, getting paid later by the Government. The deficits will begin to rise later. But already construction awards—Government and private—are beginning to mount up toward the weekly totals of 1928 and 1929. These have been averaging around $125,000,000 a week for a number of weeks. If this continues and it prob-

Of course it is going to take a few months vet before this burst of construction will be in full tide. The Government, itself has let contracts for something like $300.,000,000 of construction, while private concerns have also let enormous awards. Each week we should see more of this work being transferred into actual operations in which men will be working on the ground instead of on blue-prints.- And as it does the combination of Government construction, foreign buying, private arms construction and the filling of Government arms contracts, all joined with the Christmas retail business, may see this Christmas season— the season of peace—the inaugural date of a great war prosperity. : 2 x =n ; S soon as this happens we are going to see a ro-

industries and for higher prices there.

procession. over last vear and pine at 14.5 per cent.

now have an opportunity to test their scheme. months they will be too late, «Hf

balance of prices. will go up faster than others.

the balance will be unsettled and the more difficult will be the introduction of price controls. There should be an immediate ceiling over prices to be followed swiftly by a correction of such maladjustments as have already taken place.

So They Say—

II" WAR HAS not been declared by the time I am eiected to Congress, I will vote for war when I get there—Homer A. Stebbeins, Democratic candidate for Congress in New York. » * » ANY defense program for America that rests entirely. on military preparations and contents itself that it has preserved democracy by that, will awaken one day to the sad realization that it has overlooked the front-line trenches—I mean the economic problem.—Rep. Clifton Woodrum, of Virginia. - * *

ity groups, if for no other reason, the Election Board should make public its reasons and avoid any accusation of unfairness. ;

WE MUST NOT ourselves be misled by phrases or by formulas, and we must do our best to keep | others from being so misled.—Dr, Nicholas Murray Butler, president of Columbia University, in addressing faculty on preparedness.

DENIES PROSPERITY CAN BE LEGISLATED

| . : | By Voice in the Crowd Those who like the mixture of guns and |

| failed, exactly as the New Deal has! {failed and as politicians will always v8 | fail with that promise. This is because last year the Gov- | there are no (Prosperity works in reverse under menace of nuackery and the med‘legislative attempts. | : 3 | be encouraged by allowing those who | (can buy or build things that will] | make jobs for people feel free to} {proceed with their ambitions. | : : : |New Deal has been a constant dis-|2nd this medical quackery business. | couragement to people who had ‘the | America today is sick—infested with {ability end the means to make jobs. {Jobs are what ? : ‘can prosper, and you will never have | 3 long diet of borrowed milk and {jobs if you keep picking with ever honey spooned out through a dole, |growing bitterness on those who can her fighting heart battling against | ably will for a while, we shall see the economic engine | ake: jobs. | suddenly spark into vigorous action. {

{you define it? | Mr. Roosevelt is a “liberal” you are dispensable man. 1 going to know different before many

| months go by. | elected President we will start to pay |term candidate who, like the med-

bust movement for higher wages in the building | The price in- | } creases have already appeared. Lumber is leading the | Fir lumber is now selling at 9.7 per cent | Those who | think prices can be kept down by price control will They | had better be about it quickly for in another couple of |

What will happen is that we will have an unManyg commodities and services | And this unbalance will | have to be corrected. The longer we drift the more |

{14 million privately owned homes 3's million farms and has 24 biilion dollars in savings accounts and 109 billion dollars in insurance equities? That wealth belongs to the people and we had better wake up before N. G. stands in error if he helieves|il belongs to the smug and arrogant

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| that prosperity can be “legislated.” | Political state.

Political tricksters have tried it for "oN 30 centuries. They have always LIKENS NEW DEAL

REMEDIES TO QUACKERY {By W. M. L. Prosperity is not a matter of class, | The yeoman's service of the classes in America. newspapers in bringing to light the

Prosperity can jcal cultists flourishing in Indianapolis has been praiseworthy. Let us make a clear-cut analogy The between our Presidential campaign

[political and Communist parasites,

you need before you | her enfeebled muscles weakened by

Now if you wonder if Mr, Willkie | he insidious bacteria of New Deal

{would remain “liberal,” you must Sponsored class consciousness, her

| very skeleton becoming cancerous by {the malignant doctrine of the in-

first decide on what is a liberal? Can If you believe that

For treating this sickness we have No matter who is;two doctors. We have the third-

Side Glances—By ‘Galbraith

® . COPR. 1940 BY NEA SERVICE, INC. T. M. REG. U. 8. PAT. OFF.

"Your wife on the phone, Senator—shs says she has a speech she wants to deliver to you about not coming home last nightl"

"She poses so proudly for all friends

I am for Willkie for President! although I was raised to be a 100 | per cent | Democrat. I am not in| favor of a third term. I don’t believe in the little you, and the great I am one/man form of government. |

) The good mothers of our nation | make too great a sacrifice in train-| ing their sons to be the men of the churches, states and nation for me to vote for the third term, or to take one step toward the great I am one man form of government. I believe that Mr. Willkie is our oniy hope to keep our boys from being slaughtered in war. How can we ‘wonder why the Golden Star mothers are for Mr. Willkie for President? i » ” ” BROWN COUNTY HANGS i OUT THE WELCOME SIGN By Arthur I. Coffey, Nashville, Ind. | I wish to call your attention to] the fact that the scenic beauty of i Brown County is fast ‘approaching | its peak for color. The sumag, gum, | sassafras, beech, hickory, sugar] maple, and pin oak are turning] many brilliant hues—lacquer red, brown, yellow and orange. Brown County is! expecting many visitors this fall.

” o o INCONSISTENCY CHARGED IN WILLKIE LABOR VIEWS By W. Scott Taylor

Mr. Willike has promised to preserve the rights of labor obtained under the New Deal. Yet at the same time, he blames the defeat of France on [those same rights granted in France by the Blum government —France’s New Deal. In other words, Mr. Willkie has promised to preserve rights which, he is convinced, will cause the defeat of America. Why distort history concerning the defeat of France, unless the} purpose is to prepare the groundwork for a denial of the rights of labor? . . |i

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MORNING GLORY

By ROSE MARIE CRUZAN | The last morning glory still blooms

on the vine, - Absorbing the dew just as though

it were wine.

to see, | » Yet she mist be lonely; why would she not be?

DAILY THOUGHT

Oh that! men would praise the Lord for his goodness, and for his wonderful ‘works to the children of men!—Psalms 107:15. :

ITIS A GREAT happiness to be praised of them who are most praiseworthy.—Sir P. Sidney,

the most glamorous of glamour girls, may not pent a moral but it shows up the shoddiness of what we often call “Success.” - Earning $500 a week, beautiful as a dream, her pic~ ture in all the newspapers every day, Jessie Reed in 1924 was the envy of many American women. Although she had been married five times, she died the other day, quite penniless, in a charity hos“pital. It is interesting that her fifth husband ‘and his present wife . donated blood in an effort to save Miss Reed's life. 2 It is not true, of course, thaf all glamour careers end as dise astrously as this one. But most of them are brief. And I wonder how many girls set their feet upon tha rainbow trail if they could see where it leads. Another glamour girl, Marguerite Clark of the silent movies, also died the other day. She gave up her work at the height of ‘her career to marry and settle down with the man she loved. For many, many years she was forgotten by a curious newspaper reading public, But during those years Marguerite Clark was building a life—using a sturdy materials of common sense, spiritual vision, . and simplicity. She fashioned for herself a haven out of those intangibles we call marriage, love, family life, and when her spirit departed from it, its beautiful "outlines were made clear. Its security and sanctity were apparent. Jessie Reed had lots of money—she lost it: sha had glamour—it trailed in the dust. She was married

| five times, but died loveless and, except for a daugh=

ter, alone. . God gives to each -of us certain qualities for creats ing a life—and in the old, old words: “Every wise woman buildeth her house, but the foolish plucketh i% down with her hands.” ;

Watching Your Health By Jane Stafford

‘YF we are going to defend ourselves against fire— not fire from incendiary bombs, but ordinary peacetime fires such as killed 10,000 men, women and ichildren in the United States last year—we shall have ito enlist the housekeepers and smokers of the nation, This week, the anniversary of the great Chicago fire on Oct. 9, 1871, seems a suitable time for these first line fire-fighters to start to work. : | Matches and smoking lead the list of causes of fire loss in 1939, the National Fire Protection Associas tion announces. And good housekeeping, according to this same authority, is the first rule of fire preven tion. ‘ First thing for fire-fighting housewives to do is to clear out the rubbish and trash, old papers and rags, npr whatnot that is around the house. That usually is done as part of the fall housecleaning, but it should be a year-round activity, so that rubbish does not accumulate to the extent that it SiS a potential firs hazard in the home. Next thing on the fire-fighting housewives’ program is to send for the furn-ce and electric repair men, or get friend husband on the job, to inspect electric wiring and equipment and furnaces, flues and chimneys. Defective electrical equipment or careless handling of it and defective or overheated chimneys, flues and stacks ranked third and fourth as causes of fire loss in 1939. Th® housewife can co-operate with the smokers of the household by providing ash trays designed with an eye to safety—the kind that are so deep a burning cigarette will not fall out of them onto the floor. A little water in a shallow ash tray to put out a burning cigarette left lying in it and forgotten,’ may be a nuisance to the smokers, but will contribute to safety, Smokers should get into the habit of breaking a used match into three or four pieces before discarding ‘it. This will prevent fires from matches tossed care. lessly away before the tiny but dangerous flame is really out. Cigarets should be ground Sut, not tossed away still lighted or smoldering.