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- COPAN, Honduras, March 15.—Well, we shoot back

to Honduras today, just to get yon all balled up in

your geography. : ; 213 We are back in Honduras to see the Copan ruins.

+ Personally I never heard of the Copan ruins till the

other day. But it seems they are important, because they're about 500 years older than some other ruins somewhere else. The Mayans built them. ‘ "Although Copan is in Honduras, it’s easier to get ere from Guatemala City than from Te-

gucigalpa. That's because there

"are more tourists in Guatemala, and they charter airplanes. Of course if you're a tough guy you .can come over on a , mule. But I am not a tough SE : _. ‘guy, soI walked over to Clark's Tours and shelled out .15 bucks to join their “tour “.: We got in a trimotored Ford and flew southeast from Guatemala City, and in one hour we landed at a little village just across, the line in Honduras. . «We. had a tour guide with us, but he had never

" been over here before and wouldn't have known a

Mayan if one had walked up, and hit him with a 4 et. So we all just stood around. - After about 10 minutes it dawned on somebody ‘(not me) that the man standing there in the white pants was the Carnegie scientist Stationed here. So my fellow-tourists buttonholed him and we started off toward the ruins, a quarter of a mile away.

‘The Thoughtful Mayans _

“We wandered around the ruins for ari hour, looking at pyramids and ancient ball courts and big

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stone statues which they call “stelas,” and listening -

to the women scream because they couldnt climb in their high heels. I guess the Carnegie man was a nice fellow, but I never did get a chance to talk to him. Every time 1 opened’ my mouth the guy in plus-fours was already talking. Finally I gave up and sat down in front of a gargoyle. The tourists came and took movies of us, and never knew the difference. At rioon we got out our box lunches and sat there

I'LL BET YOU never knew that Charles Frohman’s pariner.came from Indianapolis.

During the Civil War there. used to be a livery stable at the northeast corner of the -alley running north and south between Pennsylvania and Delaware Sts. on Court St. Sure, the corner where Tom Buskirk now does business. . Sometime in 1868 (or maybe, it was 69) this barn was converted into a “concert hall,” and “it was here that “variety” or vaudeville entertainment got its start in Indianapolis. - At any rate, in a big way. Also connected with place (with a separate entrance ; from the alley) was the first wine room known around here where mixed drinks, mint juleps, brandy smashes, wine sangarees, cider, champagne and even lager were served at exorbitant prices with the privilege of drinking in company with one of the lady performers in tights and spangles. # Sam Denin was the originator and manager of the concert hall, the name of which has been lost. The performance included a minstrel scene in which all the actors, with the exception of the two end men, were girls. 4 > 2 » » Forerunner of Vaudeville The two end men were Bowman and Harris. They had had some experience doing a black-face act in some of the saloons around town. At that time, there were a number of saloons equipped with small stages, just ‘big enough to put on a little act.: The acts were big enough, however, to show that the American theater was undergoing a change. Historical perspective now permits us to guess that the early saloon entertainments indicated”the approach of vaudeville. ® The Court St. concert hall went for a while draw-

Washington

. WASHINGTON, March 15—There is one thing that

* you can’t take away from J. Edgar Hoover, chief of the

FBI. Since the Lindbergh Anti-Kidnaping Law was passed ‘there have been, at a recent count, 163 kidAll except two of these have been solved. There are a good many people in Washington who don’t like Mr. Hoover. Around the Department of Justice he is considered highhanded and difficult to work with. Recently he had a run-in with the Civil Service Commniission—wanted to .pick his own “men. His men have done good. work and that is the main pur- . pose of hiring them, so there isn’t much point in being too excited about that. : God knows the Government re - has enough inefficiency in it, chair warmers, time killers. Mr. Hoover has never been accused of inefficiency, and when you have a bureau that is getting results there ough$ to be some prejudice in its favor. .°

It is said Mr. Hoover is a publicity hunter. Well, you'd have to tire a lot of people in Washington if that is going to be a crime. Furthermore, in the kind of work the FBI is doing it doesn’t do any harm for the word fo spread around the underworld that the G-Men are. good. The chances are that the enormous publicity which the FBI has received has been a real crime preventive. Mr, Hoover irritated the press in Miami recently because he would not give interviews and have his picture taken. He was panned there ‘because he ducked publicity. : 5 Bn ss = The Detroit Cases ~ As to how much he worked at Miami, I don’t

know. He was taking some vacation and he had some - agents there looking over the racketeers who infest

° CHICAGO, Thursday—Such weather as we had yesterday afternoon in Kokomo, Ind. I was so discouraged that I stayed in the hotel all through it and held a press conference which was largely -attended by high school pupils, then met a group of 3 Democratic women who were accompanied ‘by two gentlemen, and finally saw the WPA and NYA directors. I was sorry not to see of their projects, but I made up for it this morning. Unforfunately, none of the young peoplé were on the job, so I only saw the results of their labors. The dinner given last night before the lecture was very pleasant. Part’ of the choir of the Grace Methodist Church, which sang’ at the Worlds Fair last year, sang for us and added very much to our pleasure. This morning I was driven around the city. Mr. Frederick, who went with us, certainly knows how to dramatize the story of Ko-

' komo’s comeback from the depression. He ‘said that

all the banks had failed and that only three of their

. plants were running. Still. without help from: the . Government, they reorganized and built up the city.

He bases the success whichi*they have had on the fact that they have a successful understanding be-

tween the employers and the labor groups, They

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"IFRIDAY, MARCH 15, 1940

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By Ernie Pyle

at the foot of the pyramid, on rocks carved out by the

Mayans 1500 years ago, and shook the ants off- our}

hard-boiled eggs like good picnickers at Rock Creek Park- at Washington. = : By that time the scientist had disappeared, and our leaderless party ‘was what is known as at wits end. So I got a book and read up on the Copan ruins, which is what I should have done in the first lace. . : . P It seems the Mayans lived here from the time of Christ up to about 630 A. D. This was their first hangout. before they went up to Yucatan. Most of them were slaves. ; : : Part of them were forced. to farm, to feed the others. And the others were kept at work building these pyramids for tourists to look at 1500 years later, Tron 2 ” »

A Place of Worship ee

The Copan ruins would make about three city blocks, strung in a row. Copan wasn’t a city to live in. It was a community center, a place of worship, and more than anything else a monument to somebody’s ego. The people actually lived out over the country, in brush huts. : - At one end of the ruins is the great pyramid. It is, in fact, severa] pyramids, one on top of the other. it is made of big stone blocks, must rise 100 feet high, is a pretty stiff climb to the top, and now is considerably grown over with trees and grass. There is one nook in the pyramid known as the “astronomical conference.”; It was here the early scientists met and worked out a table of time. The Mayans were smart about things like that. They counted every day in order, just as we do now, for more than 2000 years. Their counting ended on Aug. 5, 1516. Why they stopped counting on that day I haven't found out. Maybe time actually did end on that.day. Maybe we've all been dead since 1516 and don’t know it. Copan ‘went out of existence around 630 A. D. Nobody is sure 6f the reason. Maybe it was révolt against slavery, maybe it was famine, maybe it was yellow fever. At any rate, those who survived went north to Yucatan and began building more temples for tourists. . : : : My fellow travelers considered the ruins truly remarkable, and a couple of the ladies spoke of how much finer life must have been in those days.’

By Anton Scherrer

ing immense houses when, all of a sudden, Sam Denin, the manager, and Billie Harris, the star, had a falling out. It caused a split in the company and a withdrawal of the principals. Ce To get even, Bowman and Harris started an oppo-

sition show. They had $76 to do it with. On May 24,} ® 1869, the Exchange Theater on N. Illinois St. (oppo-

site Block’s) was opened under the management of Bowman, Harris and Gebert with Sol Yewell acting as' treasurer. They did a tremendous business, some weeks aggregating $2000. ‘ : »

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Ringing Down the Curtain

Three months later, Indianapolis woke up one morning to find the new theater closed. Just what happened nobody seems to remember. One version has it that the house was padlocked by the police because of questionable performances. Another version, more magnanimous, réveals that the audience in its enthusiasm stood up yelling itself hoarse, , breaking up chairs and creating a hubbub : which Sam Busby and Priar Duval, the two policemen on the beat, could not handle. ; Whatever the reason, the fact remains that Bowman and Harris left Indianapolis never to return as a double song and dance team. : Y Twenty-five years later—it was to the day, on May 24, 1894—Billie Harris, the senior member of the -old variety team, stood on the stage of the Boston Theater, the biggest in New England, and with tears in his eyes received a purse of $14,400, the box office receipts of a benefit performance. It was given as a token of public esteem and to commemorate an event which a quarter of a century beiore began in“Indianapolis. . Right on top of that, Billie Harris was made a member of the firm of Rich, Harris and Charles Frohman, the syndicate which managed Julia Marlowe, John Drew and Maude Adams, the like of which you poor youngsters are never going to see,

By Raymond Clapper

Florida during the winter season. ' He didn’t make any real catch there. Whether he picked up any good ‘leads may be something else. , The Detroit cases, involving &pparent denial of civil rights to persons arrested for having helped the Spanish Loyalist cause, don’t look very good. Mr. Hoover says that in making the arrests he only carried cut the orders of Frank Murphy, then Attorney Geéneral, and that the treatment of the prisoners while vin jail was in the hands of local authorities, not the FBI. He may have something to explain there, and whether he can explain it to his own credit remains to be seen. The other big complaint here now is that the .FBI is tapping wires all over the place, ccllecting "dossiers on politicians and officials, as well -as on private citizens, and serving as an OGPU. =~ = Those charges ought to be investigated. Sometimes people think they are being spied on when there is notring following them except a guilty conscience. ” 2

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No Evidence of Persecution

Although Mr. Murphy, when Attorney General, had a slight touch of Red-hunting fever after the European war broke out, there has béen no visible evidence that the country is being subjected to OGPU espionage at the hands of the Hoover men. Some 200 volunteer complaints of espionage activity come into the hands of FBI agents every day. Much of this is junk and is disregarded. Thus far there is no evidence of persecution as a result of such complaints. The FBI has squelched the volunteer vigilantes who wanted to take spy hunting into their own hands. a When you compare Mr. Hoover's regime with that of William J. Burns, he looks like a big improvement. Ii those in Congress think they have something on him, they ought to have an investigation—and Mr. Hoover ought to insist on it. Such an important law-enforcement agency should not continue under the cloud of accusation that now exists.

By Eleanor Roosevelt

are an organized city which has granted even to unorganized industries the right of collective bargaining. During the depression through the co-operation and joint efforts of both labor and capital, they have rehabilitated the industrial life of the city.

They rebuilt some: of the buildings of industries which had closed. New industries came because of the good-will which existed between the workers and the employers. They still have some unemployed, but if what they told me this morning is true, this should be one ofthe first places to find the solution to.our unemployment problem. I have a feeling that they should be asked to do some intensive work and experimentation here. : In a speech made not very long ago, Mr. Milo Perkins suggested that the principle of the stamp plan used for surplus food and surplus cotton might be used in solving the unemployment problem. There might be people here who would consider working on that idea. : ; : Apparently peace has come to Finland, but not a very happy peace. Somehow it seems to me that the nations of the world must find a way of guaranteeing the rights of small countries to live unmolested within their own borders in the way that they desire to live, so long as they do not interfere with the rights of their neighbors. Unléss some such agreement is brought about. it seems to me that the rule of force will continue inevitably and that rule endangers all small independent, peoples.

State Traced To 1st Tribes Of Cave Men.

CHAPTER FIVE

democracy start and when did it first suggest itself to people as a safe and sensible way of running a

government? I should like to stress the word “safe,” for men came to live to-~ gether for just exactly one purpose. They hoped that a “united front” would assure them greater safety than the individual action of those days when they had still beeh wanderers across the face of this earth, finding shelter against the violence of the climate an the hunger of the other beasts of the. fields, in some desert¢d cave. We still know very little about the first “governmental arrangements” of our ancestors of the Stone Age. That is a pity, for -during that endless stretch of years that goes back all the way to the last of the glacial periods, all sorts of traits were developed which still dominate our own daily behavior, , a 8 = x ; ELL, those who make a spe~ cialty of prehistoric history now seem to have come to the fairly general conclusion that man did not start out as a “herd animal” but as a confirmed individualist. ; Of course, in the beginning, "homo sapiens was exposed to so many dangers, ‘he was still 50, completely defenseless against the ferocious animals which roamed the wilderness, which had ‘been left behind by the retreating glaciers, that the percentage of those who survived was exceedingly low. Lack of food had forced the creature to eat his fellow-men and the practice of cannibalism (then as now) seems to have a most detrimental effect upon the number of people who reach manhood or womanhood. (For further details, visit the interior of New Guinea.)

LEGION NOTES 21ST BIRTHDAY

Kelly Talks at Evansville Tonight, Over Radio Tomorrow.

American Legion Posts throughout the nation will observe the organization’s 21st birthday today, tomorrow and Sunday. The triple birthday was chosen by the Legion from the dates of the Paris, France, caucus at which the Legion was formed. National Commander, Raymond J. Kelly will speak tonight at the Funkhouser Post 8, at Evansville. - Department Commander ‘Raymond B. Townsley also will take part in the Evansville meeting. Commander Kelly will be introduced by Louis L. Roberts, Evansville attorney. C. U. Gramelspacher, of Jasper, Eighth District commander, has arranged for a “Pageant of Wars,” as a feature of the program. More than 50 radio stations are expected to broadcast various celebrations over the United States at 6:30 p. m. tomorrow. Mr. Kelly will speak from Chicago and Mrs. William Corwith, national president of the American Legion . Auxiliary, .will talk from New York. George M. Cohan, singer and composer, and other stage and screen stars will take part in the broadcasts. Last night, the Tillman H. Harpole Post 249 and its, auxiliary held

‘fa fish fry at the post home, 2523

Northwestern Ave. Among the speakers .were James Ahren, state legion membership chairman: Kirk Smith, legion oratorical committee district chairman; Fred Hasselbring, 12th district membership chairman; Paul Gastenau, 12th district. adjutant, and Mike Grider, 12th district commander. Several local legion posts will join the celebration tonight with individual observances at their posts. Federal Post 62 will meet at 43 W. Vermont St., and Irvington Post 38 will meet at 5508 E. Washington St. Ceremonies - dedicati the new home of the Madden-Nottingham Post -348 at 1130 W. 30th St. will begin at 8 o'clock tonight. The Rev. R. M. Dodrill, Broadway Baptist Church pastor, will be the speaker. Homer Chaillaiux, Legion Americanism chairman, will speak at a supper for post and auxiliary members and families tomorrow night. The house will be open to visitors on Sunday, according. to Post Commander Lawrence Duckworth. Mrs. Wilfred Bradshaw is Auxiliary pres ident. : * . The Southeastern. Post 305 is to have District Commander Ray Grider and the post’s newly organized Auxiliary as. its guests at a bean supper and card party tomorrow night at the Christian Park Comhmunity House. James Ahern, state membership chairman, will talk on “The Position of the Legion in the Community.” = : Broad Ripple Post will hold a four-day “birthday party” beginning tonight. St. and College Ave. At 8:15 o'clock, Mrs. O. L. Watkins will read letters from her son, Osric Mills Watkins, local flier killed in the World War, at a joint meeting of the post and auxiliary. The Post will hold a card party and dance at 8:30 p. m.. tomorrow.’ Sunday at 6:30. p. m., Frank A. White, Indiana * Department historian, will speak at a pitch-in dinner. He will tell why and how Indianapolis got ‘ the on National Headquarters. : . Col. Roscoe M. Turner will show some of his aviation motion pictures at 8:30 p. m. Monday. Between 400 and 500 Legionnaires of

ithe 12th District are expected,

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By HENDRIK WILLEM _ VAN LOON

The Story of Democracy

(Illustrated by the Author)

We still know very Tittle abodt the first “governmental arrangements” of our stone age ancestors.

And so the world was inhabited by small groups of wanderers, one male, perhaps half a dozen females, and 10 or 12 children, for the death-rate among the young ones must have been as high as that, on the ships of Admiral Nelson, . : ar 2 ” ” y RADUALLY, as we know from modern observations among some of the more remote islands of the Pacific and from our studies

among the aborigines of Australia, two or three men and their

womenfolk and offspring combined

into a regular “tribe.” . When we use that word, we unconsciously think of the tribes of Israel or the Indian tribes which used to roam our plains. And we envisage hundreds of men and women, led by some patriarch or chieftain, accompanied by hordes of children and cattle and building themselves tent-villages when=-

By SEXSON E. HUMPHREYS

Unless the U. S. center of population takes a bigger jump than in any decade since 1910, the 1940 center will be in Sullivan County, Ind. -In 1910 the nation’s population

lumbus, Ind., to the City of Bloomington. In 1920 it moved only about eight miles west, across to little Whitehall in Owen County. Whitehall’s only previous claim to fame was an annual old soldiers reunion. The last census saw the imaginary balancing point of the nation move about 30 miles, down into Greene County, ending in a strip mine two and nine-tenths miles northeast of Linton. : It may land in another mine this year, because Sullivan County also is a mining region. So far as Indiana is concerned, the only counties that seem to have the slightest chance to compete with Sullivan County are Greene, where the population center now .is, and Knox, just to the south of Sullivan. But W. A. Knight, area census manager here, thinks Indiana may lose out altogether and that the coveted dot may. move clear over into Illinois. % ; To understand his reasoning, one has to understand how the.center of population is chosen. When all the population figures are in, the Census Bureau at Washington mathematically computes the point at which a map of the United States would balance on a pinpoint if the map had no weight and every resident of the nation weighed ®xactly the same. That means we Hoosiers, being just about at the middle of the see-saw, can’t do much to keep the balance point in Indiana. Folks out in California, down in Florida

Anfi-Mine Belt : * Cuts Insurance

LONDON, March 15 (U. P.).— Lloyd’s yesterday gave its official approval tg the recently ‘developed anti-magnetic. mine ship belt. ‘In its first "policy referring to the protection against magnetic mines, the underwriting syndicate issued insurance to a Greek ship at a premium of five pounds sterling per. 100 pounds and<included "a clause providing for a rebate of % of 1 per cent if the -new belt is used. , The new development comprises an eleetric cable which encircles the ship and sets up a charge which neutralizes the “pull” of the

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* ever they found new grazing. fields or convenient fishing waters. ‘But in order to get a clear idea of a prehistoric tribe we should once more visit a spot like New Guinea, where prehistoric conditions have most clearly main-. tained themselves. = There tribes will be found consisting of not more than a dozen or perhaps two dozen people and, they miserably trek from one part of the forests to the next, living in constant fear of slow starvation or sudden death and they are as helpless and hope- - less a group of people as one can imagine. Even more hopeless and ‘helpless, for Western man finds it almost impossible to recognize many “human traits” in these our brethren beneath the skin,

s 2 ” NDEED, most, of the bands of anim of the jungle seem to fare nef than these distant cousins ours. Yet they must

Indiana Hopes to Retain U. S: Center of Population

or up in Maine have several times more . influence. But Mr.” Knight, who is a Mississippian, says his fellow statesman, William L. Austin, of the census, will see that everyone plays fair, especially since Mississippi is neutral on the question. smd ye . : Hoosier Census Aid Vergil Reed, assistant census director, comes from Indiana, and he will be on guard to protect the 40-year distinctign of Hoosierdom. The center of population first came” into this state in 1890, the year Dr. Fredérick Turner discovered that the census figures showed 'a disappearance of the frontier. This led many Hoosiers to believe the population center would stay here forever. : In 1890 it was 20 miles east of Columbus, Ind., having moved up from Kentucky just across from Cincinnati In 1900 it was six miles southeast of .Columbus; 10 years later it jumped to Bloomington. It might have stayed close to Bloomington had it not been for the 1923 restriction of immigration. That gave the West and the South, both developing industrially,”a good pull on the center of population and the 1930 dot was about 30 miles southwest of the 1920 one. 30 Miles to Go ; If it- jumps 30 miles southwest this time, it will still be in Indiana. If it goes that far straight west, we couldn’t keep it, because the Wabash River at Merom is less than 30 miles from Linton. Indiana's distinction would be safest if industrial development around Seattle and Portland should pull the mythical spot to the northwest, for the Wabash at :Hudsonviile Ferry sticks like a thorn in Illinois’ side. =. : Chief reason for Mr. Knight's beliefs that Sullivan County is going to be disappointed is the fact that so many: people from the Texas-to-Dakota “Dust Bowl” moved to California. : “Don't forget a lot of them came back,” John H. Duffey, Mr. Knight's assistant, reminds him. “That is one purpose of the ‘Where did you live five years ago?’ question.” The industrial development of the South in the past 10.years may pull the center south again. - And there won't be many ne immigrants in New York and Boston to hold back for the East. “The Census Bureau believes there will be about 132,000,000 persons in the U. S. this year,” Mr. Knight says. “But we're not guessing how they will be distributed. As to the center of population, you're guess is as good as mine, but mine is Illinois.”

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have a very close resemblance to our ancestors up to the moment they .discovered that they would have a better chance of survival if they followed the example of some of the wild beasts, with whom they shared this earth, and “combined for action.” At what moment they took that mighty step forward, we do not know, but therein lay the beginning of all forms of political .or= ganization. Fi The individual at last recognized ‘his own weakness and like the elephants, the wolves and the deer,: he made common cause with the members of his own species and began ;to live in herds and packs. Small herds and packs, but it was only a beginning and out of that beginning we got “our modern super states.

NEXT—The Vast Difference Between Democracy and Self Government. \

CENSUS SCHOOL SUPPLIES HERE

Supervisors Hope Classes For Enumerators Can Begin Next Week.

3 ! Schools . for. census; enumerators over Indiana are. 10’ begin next week. At least, the census supervisors hope they can begin them next week. Debate in Washington over the Tobey Resolution to restrict the scope of census income inquiries has delayed the ‘preparation of instructions for en rators. The first consignment of questionnaires and instructions for enumerators arrived in Indiana yesterday, according to W. A. Knight, area census manager. He said that the number attending schools would be at least twice as large as the number of enumerators. : “Some persons will fail to pass the examination,” he said. “Others will just throw their hands up in ‘despair when they see the questions.” Two schools will be held in Indianapolis, one for the 11th and one for the 12th district. Another 11th

district school will be held at An-.

derson, ahd two or more schools will be required for most of the Congressional districts in the state. “The time is so short that it will be very difficult for us to train the enumerators as well as we should have liked,” Mr. Knight said. The census will begin April 2,

7-STATE MILK LAW - CONFERENCE CALLED

State government representatives went to Chicago today to confer with officials of six other midwestern states on uniform milk inspection laws. : The, Indiana delegation will attempt to reach agreements with other states on an inspection code that will meet requirements of the eastern markets. William Treadway, secretary of the Indiana Committee on Interstate Co-operation, said -inspection standards in the East have served as trade barriers ‘against midwestern milk products. : Frank Finney, chairman of the Co-operation Committee, said if an inspection code is agreed upon it will be presented to the National Economics Committee which will hold hearings on milk codes in Washington next week. Accompanying Mr. Treadway to the Chicago conference today were John ‘Taylor of the Milk Division of the State Health Department, and H. W. Gregory of Purdue University. ;

PERU SEWAGE PLANT NEARS COMPLETION

By Science Service PERU, Ind, March 15.—Peru’s sewage treatment plant and intercepting sewers will be completed by March 30. ' The first three units of the secondary treatment plant.probably will be completed by tomorrow on the first of next week." The total cost of the work will be

$437,984, or $6694 more than the

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FIRE STATION TO BE ASKED Times Speciat : NEW PARIS, Ind.” March 15.— The WPA will be asked to approve a project for constructing a new. fire station, it 8

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MLK GRADING

PLAN SCORED ASTOOSEVERE

‘Would Eliminate Many Small Producers,” Wood Says, Urging Substitute. City Council President Joseph G.

Wood said today he would ask Councilmen to drop the: Health

f. | Board’s milk grading ordinance now

pending in favor of a new measure

‘| being drafted by -a committee of

civic leaders and milk producers. The milk measure, introduced last December by Dr. Herman G, Morgan, Health Board : secretary, ‘was a rewrite of the U. S. Public Health Service's “Standard Milk Ordinance” for all cities. It was advogated by Dr. Morgan as a means to" "improve milk production and distribution in the Indianapolis milk marketing area. - : “The standard ordinance now bee fore us would put about half the

‘| small producers in the area out of

business,” Mr. Wood said. . “Its re= quirements are too stiff for these smaller producers to meet. »

Opposes Measure

“I think it is sound policy to oppose any - measure that would eliminate a ‘large number of proe : ducers. I believe most of the heme bers of the Council feel the ‘same way. I don't think any of them are for it. A - “1 want to! emphasize, however, that if we thought there was any danger: of a milk-born epidemic, we would be the first to take ac- * ton, Bugis my information that the milk now being supplied to this area is good, both from the stande point of purity and butterfat, cone tent. : “I am certain that a good-faith effort now is being put forth among our producers and civic leaders to draft a new ordinance which would not be as drastic as the one put forward by the Public Health Service. I don't think we ought to take any action on ordinance before us until the new one is presented. * “When this is done, we'll either kill the pending measure ér amend it with the new one.”

“Four on Committee

Mr. Wood said the committee drafting the new ordinance include ed Albert Neuerburg, East Side civie leadey; Paul C. Wetter, Indianapolis Federation of Community Civic Clubs president; John D: Littleton, Indianapolis Dairy Producers’ Coune cil’ manager, and Carl Hedges, Indianapolis Dairymen’s Co-operative manager. | Mr. Wetter said a major objece tion to the U, S. Public Health Service ordinance was its emphasis on grading. Thé ordinance would set up grades A, B and C of milk, on a bacterial count basis. Only grade A milk could be sold after a: given date, other grades to be used for cooking/and mantifacturing purposes. ; fas “There is only one grade of milk the public is interested in—a good grade,” Mr. Wetter said. “That's the only grade that should be sold. It should contain a butterfat content of 3.8 per eent by volume and bacterial count of less than 30,000 per cubic. centimeter.” re } The committee had considered a clause which would require each distributor to label milk by. bace teria-count and butterfat content, but has abandoned the idea, Mr, Wetter said. It would lead to many Somplisetions, he explained.

Sides With Mr. Wood

Mr. Wetter agreed with Mr, Woods’ contention that the pending inance’s restrictions surrounding roduction of milk on the farm os dmbulion are “too strict.” . id there is no need for such stringency, although should be maintained When he explained the Health Service ordinance to the Council,

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tend to eliminate some producers, it would not affect supply. The Health Board, through its milk inspection division, has been'gradually improving the condition of milk productions on the 6000 farms which supply the Indianapolis area, he said. : The ordinance was introduced at a time when a controversy over milk prices in the area was being thrashed out before the State Milk Control Board. ; Although there is no connection between the Health Service ordie nance Loa milk prices, Councilmen at first postponed the ordinance pending a decision in the price fight. The decision has been made and the milk situation has quieted, but still ‘the ordinance has remained imprisoned in Council’s health com mittee where it appears scheduled for an early death.

TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE

1—Where will the Democratic and Republican National Conventions be held this year? : 2—Who painted the Sistine Mae donna? 3—Do roosters ever crow at night? 4—Do harbor pilots board battle= ships and steer them into port the same as merchant vessels? 5—What world-wide organization was founded by Gen. William Booth? .

Answers on

1—-Democratic at Chicago, Repube lican at. Philadelphia. 2—Raphael. ; 3—Yes. 4—Yes. : : 5—The Salvation Army.

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