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ES RILEY 5551
Give Light and the People Wilt Find Their Own Way TUESDAY, MAY 9, 1939
“$3,200,000,000 DEFICIT IS PLENTY’ ESTERDAY while the House was railroading through the largest Navy ($770,000,000), the Senate was approving items in the largest Agriculture Department appropriation of all time (81,216,000,000). Both supply bills are in excess of the President’s
budget, which calls for an over-all deficit of $3,300,000,000. | And in the words of Secretary of the Treasury Mor- |
genthau, a “$3,300,000,000 deficit is plenty.” Meanwhile, Congress-——many of whose members ave criticizing the President for extravagance while voting to hike the ante—is doing nothing toward raising more revenue. More than $2,000,000,000 in sales and nuisance excises and corporation income taxes are due to expire this year, The passage of a tax bill by this Congress, therefore, is unavoidable. Yet no step has been taken. No tax hearings have been held. None has been scheduled. Congressional leaders apparently are waiting for the Administration to tell them what to do: the Administration appears to be waiting for Congress to take the initiative. And every day
of delay increases the likelihood that in the end Congress |
will merely re-enact the expiring taxes. Over the last year there have heen several nonpartisan studies by independent tax experts. All of these studies have pointed to the same conclusion: That the present tax structure is holding back business enterprise and business recovery, and that a simplification of tax laws would stimulate a greater business volume, and thereby produce more revenue,
If Congress could take time off fiom voting larger ap- |
propriations, and examine these studies, we might get somewhere toward business recovery and fiscal solvency.
BRITAIN’S BONER
N an appeal for world peace as moving as any heard in many a day, the Duke of Windsor addressed an international radio audience from Verdun, one of France's bloodiest battlefields. It was a memorable speech for more reasons than one. The former King spoke with that touching eloquence always so effective when the sentiment so obviously comes fiom the heart. “I appeal to all political leaders,” he said, “in the name of the living whose happiness is in their hands.” Speaking as “a simple soldier,” and for himself alone, he warned that in the next war “there will be no victory for the victor. Victory will lie only with the forces of evil.” He made no pretense at statesmanship. observer, he said, he was profoundly convinced “that there is no land whose people want war.” And that is as true of ‘Germany, he went on, as of Britain, America and France. Hence, he urged, a way to peace should be actively sought. Yes, it was a memorable speech. And it was one of which doubtless more will be heard. For not the least re-
markable, not to say astounding, thing about it was the |
fact that its broadcast was banned in Great Britain and Canada. The London Daily Express explained that inasmuch as “the King is on his way to America,” any word to the United States should be spoken by him. In “court circles” it was suggested that the Duke had “pulled another boner.” That somebody “pulled a boner” there can be no doubt. but it was not the Duke of Windsor. Adepts at diplomatic hair-splitting may see a slight infringement upon the royal prerogative, but it was so slight that even the most pronounced stickler for the protocol might well have passed it ap with a privately expressed grumble. What amounts to an official muzzle on Windsor gives the controlled press of Germany, Italy and Soviet Russia an opportunity to jie at one of the great democracies for refusing to allow its former ruler to Droadcast a simple appeal for peace.
CANALS AND DEFENSE PEAKING in the Senate chamber at Washington yesterday, President Somoza of Nicaragua Jid hig best to sell the idea that the United States should build a canal across his country. That's quite all right. The Nicaraguan Canal project 1s worth considering, though probably for the future. The War Department argues that the immediate need is for additional locks at the Panama Canal, since they can be installed at much less cost and in much less time. But the idea of eventually owning two great canals from Pacific to Atlantic can be discussed as having actual value to our national defense—and that, we think, is not true of another canal project now being agitated, before the Senate, in the name of defense. This is the Florida ship canal, on which President Roosevelt spent about $5,000,000 before Congress stopped it three years ago. Last January Mr. Roosevelt undertook to revive this project in order to meet “commercial and military needs.” Bills to authorize resumption of work have been reported favorably by a House committee and without recommendation by a Senate committee. Most of the many experts who have studied this project have condemned it. Cost estimates range from $156.000.000 to $263,000,000 and up. Numerous citizens and business interests in Florida oppose it. Many shipping companies say they wouldn't use it. highly questionable and its military value, if any, has no relation to any present need, for it couldnt be completed in Jess than 10 years, This country’s real need is to stop wasting money on foolish and impractical things, so that the national credit can be preserved for things really essential to defense and pecovery. We hope Congress will turn down the Florida ship canal folly emphatically and finally.
BUSY STATESMEN
HOSE who fear that the Congressmen are overworking themselves in Washington may be reassured by the news that our lawmakers found time, on one recent day,
of choice bologna.
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By Westbrook Pegler Miami Kian Achive in Attempts To Frighten Negroes, but Probably Will Net Taekle Capone Menace.
| ASHVILLE, Tenn, May 9—While bouncing briskly over the Southern tier your correspondent picked up a paper containing a picture of a masked and hooded Ku-Klux Klansman with a symbolic lynching rove in hand, whe rode through certain Miami streets, with others, in an effort to impress the Negroes of that city with the Iimpropriety and danger of voting in a local election. Now, with full recognition of the many esthetic and substantial virtues of Miami, one should bear in mind, nevertheless, that she is a minor place and avoid overemphasis. Ordinarily, at this season of the year, Miami should be forgotten and allowed to ‘odeed with her housework, to i up after the last batch of contented guests and prepare te delight the next. The Kiu-Kiux Klan, however, always is newsworthy, and this latest exertion of these guardians of the American home and civic purity prompts a few observations.
» ” » | FT is well known that Miami and certain of her | suburbs have become the winter quarters and the off-season field of operations of the surviving executives of the Al Capone gang, and it is accepted in | Miami that When Capone leaves prison he will make | his Wome there and resume his career. Bootlegging, | Of course, is ‘cut, and the brothel business is so trouble- | some that it is hardly worth the genius of a real master. But gambling on the horses and slot machines | §s an industry which has a firm voice in the local government and that of the state as well. | © Gambling, With its vast sums of yeady cash, tends | to grow arrogant toward public officials and people. | And officials and other politicians, knowing the power | Of ‘chsh money, submit to the gamblers or shake them down. Of course, the Nriami membeis of the Ku-Klux | Klan know that a gang of Chicago criminals have | taken over two racing plants in their midst. That | Hialeah, a Miami suburb, is being shaped into the | Cicero of the South, that a gamblers’ lobby operates brazenly in the TDegislature in Tallahassee and that | accusations of bribery are common in the politics of their community. Trnest Graham, a Miami State Senator. who is running a rather inept legislative inquiry, openly asserts that many. though net all, members of the Tegislature are grafters. u o ”
EN with police records elsewhere move into the | community as businessmen without protest from |
| the members of the Ku-Klux Klan, and the suspicion | taking graft from gangsters attracted from the North. If the Ku-Klux Klan contained clean men with the courage to show their faces and a real interest in rooting out the Chicago-Cicero moh of racketeers the thing Would not be hard to do, for the evidence of corraption is flaunted rather than concealed. But the Klan never bothers hoodlums, Whose murderous natare was made known in the bloody Wars of Chicago
This diffidence may be attributed as much to em= | harrassment as to the physical shrinkage of men who |
go masked, because a combing of the roster doubtless would reveal crusaders who have done business under | the stairs The Klansmen know who the racketeers are. know | them by sight and know where they live. If the Kian of Miami ever summons the courage to make a pass at the Capone mob that will be news, indeed
Business By John T. Flynn
Deficits Continue, Still Nothing Is Done to Repair Economic Machine.
TEW YORK, May 9. We approach the end of this fiscal year for the Federal Government and thus far, this is what we find-—a deficit for this vear of $1,800.000,000 niore than last year. Of course employment has increased greatly since 1933. But despite a vast expenditure of deficit money the era of abundance promised us has not only wot arrived or is not even in sight, but we still have an eNOTATOUs army of unemploved men and women And to make the case wore we are going to have ore 'of ‘our Jargest @eficits this year. Now if We are wober-minded | blinded by partisanship, we shall have to recognize a few points in this situation which no fair-minded person can possibly evade. First, it must be perfectly obvious that whatever we have dove, we have certainly done nothing capable of producing Mm our economic machine the energy to make it work. Whatever reforms have been accomplished by the Administration, while they may have here and there produced certain consequences of social fastice, have not had the effect of making the economic System Work any better. The President has had ome instrument and one only which has aecomplished any warjous effect upon the economic svstem and that is the instiument of deficits.
The Explanation Is Easy
When the President came into office the sconomic system was flat on its Pack. He resuscitated it by means of spending Hillions of Horrowed funds. Now at the end of six years, if this spending of horrowed funds were to be withdrawn or even eurtailed. the economic system would be as flat on its back as when re ‘came into office. Thiz can mean nothing else | than this; that no adjustments, Gespite all the omations, Have been made in the fundamental structure 5 mechanisms of the system to enable it to function eter Of course there is wo trick at all to making it work for a time by pumping money into it. I ean keep the mast inefficient and bankiupt corner grocer in business forever by pouring a few thousand dollars of Dorrowed money to his eash drawer every vear But is it not plain that what this country needs more than anything else is to face the truth about its condition—namely, that it has done nothing in six critical years to repair its economic system? Mndeed. it bas not only @one nothing to repair it, but has actually made it worse by plunging it te debt and establishing in the minds of its people the feeling that they can live forever on debt
A Woman's Viewpoint By Mrs. Walter Ferguson
w UMBER 324 N. Broadway,” they said. “Thats where you'll find Mus, Carter. As I walked over | the flagstones on the shady street, the blooming spirea
bushes curtsied a welcome Their fallen petals lay like a film of snow over the voung grass. It was the 50th Anniversary of the Opening of Oklahoma. Rehind me the noise of the crowds hastening vo the parade became fainter.
And there in her bed, where she has lived for the Jast three years, I found a real $er=Mis. M. N.
| Carter, whose age adds up to exactly that number. | Her husband made the “Run” and she came as soon | up for her and her ohildven to
as a shanty was set wy live In. Shes been in Guthrie, Okla. ever since.
| of opinion.
They tell a story about Nis. Carter in Guthrie. | A long thme ago, Sam Jones, the evangelist, was holds |
cannot be avoided that the duce cap of the crusader | often hides the face of a crook who himself has been |
| , not wholly |
| We've been good friends for many years, on paper. | | Every six months or so the postman brings me a | letter and inside are pages of fine writing, such as | | ladies wsed to pen; words of oheer and paragraphs |
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TUESDAY, MAY 9, 1939 |
In Washington
The Hoosier Forum
I wholly disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your wight to say it.=Voltaire,
| BACKS LANDIS PLEA ON BLOOMINGTON WPA [By a Student of Former Days, Blooming-
Special” from Washington concerns | ing the plea of Rep. Gerald W.| | Landis to continue the WPA work lin the Seventh District which in-| | eludes Bwoomington. Tt was a very | worthy plea, and anyone driving through Bloomington would agree that we could use WPA labor for Years to come. When I think of Bloomington of some time ago, perhaps 20 years ago, and recall the beautiful trees | the nice homes and the general aspect of cleanliness and civic pride, it brings a choke in my throat. The condition of Bloomington, especialIv in the West Side, is simply deplovable Houves falling down, streets worse than pig wWallows, fresh paint unknown, and in general the condition is a disgrace, not only to Imdiana University, but to diana. The residents should be forced to clean up their premises, not only for the appearance of the |eity, but for health's sake, and it Ishould come from the Governor, if | 110 other way | There are some very unsightly places within a few squares of I. U., as well as insanitary objects that [should be removed since we are live ling in a modern age. Our slogan should be, “Clean up, paint up, sorub up, plant trees and Rowers repair walks and make the home of Imdiana University a beautiful | place, instead of the unsightly place it is today.” We need WPA labor in Bloomington and for a good, Yong tne, 100. ® ® PEFENDS STATE POLICE FOR STOPPING CARS Ba GoMfish I wee in the Forum where some students Were having trouble with the mIhdiana State Police and thought they were smart about putting it In the paper. I happen to be a freight truck driver and travel
from Mmdianapolis to Cleveland. 1 understand these boys were hom Ohio. I do not know, but if this was the same car Which passed me at the State Reformatory on Road €7. they should have been put in jail There was another truck coming toward me and a bus was stopped in front of me. I stopped to wait on the bus and this car was going 50 fast it couldnt stop and almost tamed over, but kept on going. 1 looked at the license and saw it was from Ohio. I pass along the road and have been stopped by the Indiana State
toh. I read with interest the “Times|
| new experiments.
(Times readers are invited to express their in these columns, religious cons troversies excluded. Make your letter short, so all can Letters must
views
have a chance. be sighed, but names will be withheld on request.)
Police and I think they are real officers. I have been stopped in Ohio by State Police and if I had my choice I would pick the Indiana State Police. Can you blame the police for drawing guns when stopping strange cars? I am glad to see that they are not taking an) more chances than they are, for that's what our police are for I am sure there is more to what happened than what was put in the paper ” ” URGES MAJ. DYER TRY OWN MEDICINE By Baward ¥. Maddox Maj. Dyer and Mr. Meitzler are advocating Bolshevik methods of liquidating old people Who can't earn their own living. The only proper answer to these conscienceless infidels and depraved peddlers
of atheistic materialism is: “Take a big doze of your own preserip= tion; if you recommend it after a fair trial, we will give your ivea some study. But first be sure you give it a personal trial.” Such dangerous suggestions should pe kept out of the papers. There are too many erackpots wanting to try Any person who advocates sweh inhumane methods
MAY By M. P. D, Twine the garlands of May Day, Rose and tulip and lily white, Shining in the sunlight bright. Clover fair, and dandelion gold, Shining out in colors old, Violets blue and daffodil Raise the maypole on the hill, Gladly sing the wongs of May Through the shining country way Twine the bright flowers of the day For it is the month of May
DAILY THOUGHT
Submit vourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from vou.=James 4.7
1. % thou wilt; what thou wilt:
when thou wilt=Thomas A
Rempis
- or was unable to grasp it:
| Show be sent to a mental hospital for observation. The old people built | this nation and this generation owes | them more respect and more mas | terial assistance than they receive,
| We have a bunch of modernistic {smart alecks in this country whe | Wish to get rid of all old, substantial | ideas, and old political and ethical standards, as well as having no respect for old people.
5 » # CLAIMS DEMOCRATIC JUSTICE REAL ISSUE
By R. Sprunger
The question isn't so much about |
“isms” as of when we are going to have democratic justice. When one makes ridiculous statements defending a ridiculous system, he shouldn't | complain when he is caught with | them. | I don’t care to understand the | principles of a system that allots |erumbs to those who labor and the fat of the land to those who @o nothing to earn it,
There is nothing the matter with this country or its Constitution. But there is something the matter with the people who allow the political stooges of capitalistic controllers to manipulate the laws of the land so as to benefit their masters. I understand democratic justice and know we do not and cannot have it as long as economic dictatorship exists. Of course there are natal differences in people. What a mixup there would be if every= body did the same thing at the same time. I stated before and a Forum writs
| worker full value for the work and service he performs so he may buy [back all he produces. This is impossible under the profit system and the result is the present chaotic conditions, Of course those wno don’t help produce wealth shouldnt be en{titled to any of it, but just the same those who do nothing to earn it are getting the lavgest shaue. Just because you live in a form (of democracy doesn’t mean that you (understand it or don’t have to tudy what demoerazy really means. When Kk minority group or an individual
can manipulate so as to control the |
economic determinism of the majority, that is not democracy.
ent economic system. The Forum writer who has been debating with me must not be independent as he
|a “bush.”
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Ng a rousing revival there. During one of the serve |
fees, a buriy man rose to interrupt. Pointing a Singer at an old Negto woman seated in the —. of ¢ meeting house, he shouted. “Tl not stay here as long as theres a nigger in the house. Thiz it a white man's church. Put the blacks out” Homified silence followed. Even the loquacious Rev. Jones was stunned to muteness. In the midst of The tense suillvess a slim little woman sitting beside the Negro stood and, taking the avm of her black neighbor, sayd loud enough for all to hear: “Come. friend, I'll go out with you. I dont like white men’s meh. _s ook pe! God's church.” ty ’ oY 89 were made of that sort stuff. VOL mothers, good AU
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By DR. ALBERT EDWARD WIGGAM
| LET'S EXPLORE YOUR MIND
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2 EDM WHARTON, NOVEL/STEA 7S ARE RR 5 ¥ 16 THE MART OF HAVING HARB TS O FOUGHT A T & SOUND PEC HOLOGY YOUR OPINION
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less he is really strong and selfsre=
YES, but I think it has been immensely overrated as driving motive of business. In the
huge co-operatives of Belgium, Hol- | [land and Sweden the managers cars| ry on affairs as large as our biggest
[corporations for what to an Amer[ican or English businessman would iseem a meager salary, They are more than satisfied because they are honored as leaders. A 15-year re(search on the motives of employees [shows that higher pay will not [settle their troubles or strikes and
is not what they most want, Their is “desire to do
strongest motive Vier work” and “have it recognized.” | . ou 8» |" YES, if it be explained a bit ! further. As William James said,
‘in his famous chapter on habits, we
‘have habits because we have nervous systems and our nerves soon leary habits that are either useful
lor harmful and then, in spite of (ourselves, these habits carry us on
to our destinies, good or bad, ow= ing to what habits we have allowed our nervous systems to form. He urged that we should make all the
for life. Probably they injure liant, he will develop greater ego- common acts of life habitual, such
the favored they tend to make him priggish, \ 3 Shis our will whe
one the most because tism or an inferiority complex. The as
unfavored ¢hild is likely to develop an
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By Raymond Clapper
C. of C. Stand Shows Plainly It's Too Late Now for Appeasement Between Business and New Deal.
ASHINGTON, May 9.=Some months ago it ap= peared possible that the Administration and business might find some way of living together in reasonable co-operation. Conditions seemed to be leading both sides into a marriage of convenience The threatening war situation called for national unity. The disappointing progress toward recovery was not only a liability to the business community but a polit=
jeal liability to the Administration, On that theory some of the Administration under took an olive-branch campaign. Two of Roosevelt's oldest and most intimate associates, Treasury Secre= tary Morgenthau and Commerce Secretary Hopkins, together with Undersecretary of the Treasury John Hanes, collaborated and for a time seemed to be maks= ing headway. “But today, following the week of the United States Chamber of Commerce convention, it is elear that the section of business for which this organization speaks is further away from the Administration than ever, and vice versa. The ill=feeling is mutual, & Ld -
RESIDENT ROOSEVELT and practically all New Dealers boycotted the Chamber of Commerce, Roosevelt was invited to speak, but declined. No reas son was made public but undoubtedly he did not wish to be used as a drawing card for a meeting which would devote itself largely to condemning his Admins istration. New Dealers consider the Chamber of Comes merce and the National Association of Manufacturers as right-wing adjuncts to the Republican Party. The hate-Roosevelt sentiment in the Chamber of Com= merce convention was barely concealed. Although the Chamber's membership includes small business men, who are considerably more than a majority of its membership, the controlling influence is seen by the New Dealers to be Big Business, with utilities exers cising considerable backstage influence, With that in mind, the New Dealers deliberately get out to ignore the Chamber convention and to put on an Administration budget of speakers at the conse vention of the National Retail Federation to be held here May 22. President Roosevelt will make his big economic speech of the spring, Secretary Wallace and other Administration officials will be on the program, This organization is composed of retailers, who are considered by the Administration to be naturally more sympathetic with its policies since both are directly interested in inereasing consumer purchasing power, . # »
VEN if the retailers adopt more sympathetio KE resolutions than the Chamber of Commerce did, that will do little to bring about a better feeling between the Administration and the business world, because the Chamber of Commerce and the N. A. M, pitch the generally recognized key for “business.” | It seems too late now to hope for any real | change of feeling, Both sides long ago dug in, and the tendency is to dig in more deeply | Roosevelt and his associates are more determined than ever that the Democratic Party shall go ahead in New Deal directions. Businessmen, or those who undertook to speak for them here last week are | holding on, waiting for next year when they hope | to put a Republican in the White House. It is too [late for appeasement.
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‘By Heywood Broun
Sad Experience at Chicago to Be His Guide When He Visits N. Y, Fair,
TAMFORD, Conn, May 9.=All the speakers at the recent Chamber of Commerce dinner here diss cussed the late spring. We agreed that it slowed up the marketing of our respective products. My cabs pages are two weeks behing, and I fear my columbine i€ not long for this world But for being held down to | the furrows I would have visited the Fair many days ago. Whenever I think of the late exposition in Cnicago 1 suffer a recurrence of a slight throbbing in the temples, and my tongue seems coated. In the begine ping my counselor and friend suggested that we jusé | dash over and see the Hall of Science, and then come right back to his saloon again. But once within the portals amid so many great educational exhibits something seized me. It was, 1 choose to believe, a long-forgotten and deeply buried reportorial instinct. My nostalgia for news never assails me except at fairs and fires. when I go Dalmatian all over again and | want to run between the wheels of the hook and ladder, “Ernie.” I said with gravity, “it will not suffice me simply to see the Hall of Science and return immedie ately to your friendly barroom. If we are to apprecis ate the wonders of physics and chemistry we must capture something of the scientific spirit. We must ourselves become research men, Who ean appreciate the wonder of electricity unless he himself is charged positively? In this very avenue where we stand are the cafes and restaurants representing all the nations, It would be the work of only a few hours to make a tour of the entire world.” In those days there were more nations than exist at present,
Balked by an Old Ruin
I dragged him into the Rumanian village and asked the girl for two glasses of native wine. She brought us a couple of Martinis, In the Polish cons cession we asked for Pilsudski punch. That was a Martini, too, but without an olive, In the Hawaiian settlement they called it Poi, and it was served (o us | in an igloo as whale cil. We were up an Athenian alley when they turned the lights out, and 1%rnie suf» fered rather severe contusions tripping over the ruins of a replica of the Parthenon, We didn't get to see the Hall of Science And so with our own World's Fair I intend to make my investigations while a few of the places of hise torical interest are still padiocked. And I gather, through the happy accident of having seen a picture of the Trylon and the Perisphere that this particular international congress has established a different motif. So when { make my annual trip around the world in two hours and 15 minutes I will follow that official suggestion and stick consistently to a highball with a straw, They are honest folk and frugal. You can't go very wrong with Scoteh,
Watching Your Health
By Dr. Morris Fishbein
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N 1924, a Norwegian physician named Moligaard experimented with a method of treating tubercue losis that involved the use of gold injected into the body For more than 1200 years gold had been used for treating all sorts of diseases, probably because the magic associated with the very word “gold™ had great influence on people who were sick. For at least 300 years it had been tried repeatedly in treating tuberculosis and always discarded In 1920 some work was done which showed thas sometimes the results following the use of gold were more harmful than beneficial to the patients, Then the subject was revived in 1924. A new preparation of gold was tried extensively in several important sanatoriums. The evidence more recently developed seemed to indicate that in some cases of tuberculosis the use of this gold preparation, in addition to other drugs, was helpful. Indeed, in a | few instances the results were sufficiently good to | cause doctors to continue their experiments. However, in no case did the gold act so perfectly as to make the doctors believe it had specific effect on the germ that causes the disease. It must be remembered that nowadays a person seriously sick from tuberculosis is likely to be given care in a sanatorium where he will get adequate rest, the use of artificial pneumothorax, or various operations on the diseased lung, good food, ineluds | ing the essential proteins, vitamins and mineral salts,
| decossary to help the body in repair, and particu larly good nursing. At the same : are Siininioieie which id for tissues. ata i» »
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