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STEEL, BUILDING MATERIAL CITED BY LEGAL EXPERTS; LABOR FIGHTS START SOON

‘Preliminary’ Probe Of NLRB Set for Thursday.

By HERBERT LITTLE

Times Special Writer WASHINGTON, Jan. 25.— The big labor fights of this session of Congress will start soon. Skirmishes so far have

been inconclusive. First—Beginning Thursday— comes & “preliminary” investigation of the National Labor Relations Board, by a Senate subcommittee— the purpose of which is to determine whether the Senate should authorize a complete investigation, as demanded by Senator Burke (D. “Neb.). Next—when the antilynchng bill filbuster is out of the way— the Labor Board will again be on the defensive, in a fight over the Senate Appropriations Committee's recommendation that the Board's funds be reduced $388,000 under the budget figure already approved by the House. Early in February the LaFollette Civil Liberties Committee will resume its inquiries into the attempts of businessmen to defeat the efforts of workers to organize and bargain collectively under the Wagner Act. Hour Bill Due Soon The Wage-Hour Bill should be brought out of committee some time in February. The chief obstacle seems to be the C. I. O.-A. F, of L. warfare. The maritime subsidy bill, with its important labor provisions, appears tied up for some time in House and Senate committees. The C. I. O.'s latest flurry, an a tack upon Senator John Milton, Mayor Hague's ally, failed to stop the Senate from accepting his credentials and administering the oath of office yesterday. A Senate committee investigation of the charges may be made, but not much is expected of this effort. Senator Wagner (D. N. Y.), author

of the National Labor Relations Act, |

will come to the defense of the Labor Board's appropriation on the floor. The Senate committee, headed by conservative Senator Glass (D. Va.) cut the Board's funds to this year's figures.

Filibuster Leaders Expect Quick Victory

WASHINGTON, Jan. 25 (U. P.) — A declaration by three Western Senators in favor of laying aside the Antilynching Bill to make way for other legislative business today en-

couraged filibusterers to predict a | prosecution by removing some pres-

speedy end to the conflict.

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Conference With FoR

BULLETIN WASHINGTON, Jan. 25 (U. P.).—Assistant Attorney General Robert H. Jackson told the House Judiciary Committee today the Justice Department can enforce the antitrust laws only by the threat of criminal prosecution and the use of grand juries to obtain evidence.

By THOMAS L. STOKES Times Special Writer

WASHINGTON, Jan. 25.— President Roosevelt and his legal advisers are attempting, under difficulties, to draft antitrust law changes to reach several big industrial conserns, in themselves approaching monopolies, which hitherto have escaped antitrust regulation for practices which the President regards as

harmful to business stability.

They have raised prices and kept them up unwarrantedly, the Administration holds. This they have been able to do through their own control of a large segment of their industry, through concentrated financial power, and through control of materials needed by other industries, without resorting to actual agreements with other concerns in their field such as are outlawed by the antitrust laws.

Steel and the building material

| industries are two examples cited

by Administration legal experts. Discussed Yesterday

Means of meeting this particular problem were discussed in a conference President Roosevelt held yesterday with Robert H. Jackson, Assistant Attorney General in charge of antitrust prosecutions, who now is drafting proposed antitrust law revision to submit to Congress, and Benjamin V. Cohen, one of the President's legal experts. Considerably increased Governmental supervision would be necessary to check unwarranted bnrice rises and undue maintenance of high prices not justified by the market, because the Government would have to keep itself closely informed of conditions in the industry. Other amendments to the antitrust statutes also were discussed, among them means of simplifying

The three were Senators Wheeler | ent requirements of Government

(D, Mont.), Herring (D. Iowa) and | In addition, sev- |

Burke (D. Neb). eral other Senators including two ‘Republicans, said privately they were about ready to agree to lay aside the measure. The break in ranks supporting the bill and behind-the-scenes conflict fover whether the Senate would be F oruttee to take final action on the fhousing bill appeared further to ave weakened prospects for enactent of the controversial measure. Meanwhile conferees made final gevisions of the Administration's new half-billion-dollar crop control program today after reconciling major controversies between the ‘Senate and House versions of the Jong-range farm bill. At the same time, Administration bfficials said the purpose of Presiident Roosevelt's special message to {Congress asking supplemental najonal defense funds will be to make the United States immediatey impregnable to foreign invasion.

showing. The burden of proof of known and acknowledged facts would be shifted from the Government and laid upon the industry. Administration experts still are working also on further simplification of the holding company structure, with preponderance of opinion now leaning toward another increase in the intercorporate divi= dends tax as & means of accomplishing this.

Glass Introduces Bill

The tax plan drafted by a Wavs and Means Subcommittee provides for increased levies on intercorporate dividends, and they may be hiked still higher before the bill is enacted. Administration experts report some simplification of holding company strusture from the intercorposse dividends tax of the last tax 11. President Roosevelt recently specified bank holding companies as one target of attack, and Senator Glass

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Attending the Indiana Hardware Association's 30th annual convention at the Murat Temple today are (left to right): Ralph David of Logansport, exhibit chairman; G. F. Sheely of Indianapolis, manof Winamae, vice

aging director; Robert Kelly

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president; Paul Ulrich, Indianapolis; Frank Duncan, Gosport; Karl L. Fenger of New Albany, president, and Ralph McCampbell, French Lick. Eight hundred are attending the sessions, panies have arranged exhibits.

More than 100 com-

CITY HOSPITAL NEEDS RADIUM

Indianapolis Has Inadequate Supply to Fight Cancer, Dr. Myers Reports.

Radium for fighting cancer in Indianapolis, while insufficient to meet present needs, is somewhat more adequate than that of several U. S. cities in the same population class, an Eldorado Radium Corp. survey showed today. City Hospital now has 235 milligrams of radium, Dr. Charles Myers, hospital superintendent, said that at least 150 milligrams more are needed. Indiana University Medical Center has 150 milligrams, which is also inadequate at present, officials said. Other local hospitals do not own radium, but rent it upon occasion from private physicians, several of whom have small supplies. Leading hospitals in the East and Middle West need more than double their present radium supply, according to the survey. Fewer than 100 hospitals in the 47 cities surveyed own radium, it was said.

Fund Raised by Clubs

City Hospital obtained its supply through a drive conducted in 1935 by the Seventh District Federation of Clubs. More than $8000 was raised to purchase radium and equipment for its handling. Contributions are still being received. A leading figure In Indianapolis’ radium drive has been Mrs. John F. Engelke, 2818 N. Talbot Ave. who acted as chairman of the campaign. Success of the project recently made possible the establishment of a Cancer Clinic at City Hospital, It was endowed by Edward L. Patrick.

FORGER GETS 2 TO 14 YEARS COLUMBUS, Jan. 25 (U. P.).— Patrick O'Malley, 38, of Monticello, today was under sentence of two to 14 years at Michigan City State Prison for forgery,

(D. Va.) has introduced a bill providing for their dissolution by a slow process of liquidation. One-eighth of total bank deposits now are controlled by bank holding companies, according to a Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. survey.

IN INDIANAPOLIS

Here's County Traffic Record

Deaths (To Date) 1938 vee 14 BOY ivan 9

2938 ene oh 8 BUST ave 6 Accidents (Jan, 24) Accidents ..., 4 Injured ...... 3 Dead ........ 0 Arrests (Jan. 24) Speeding _ 0 . © Reckless Driving : 1

; Running Preferential Street 1

Running Red Light

¢ Drunken Driving, 2

Others 7

MEETINGS TODAY

Indiana Retail Hardware Association, sate convention, Murat Temple, all day. Knights of Columbus Luncheon Club, luncheon, Hotel Washington, noon. luncheon, Claypool Hotel,

Rotary Club, noon. Marion County Democratic

Women’s Club, meeting, Claypool Hotel, 8 p. m. Alpha Tau Omega, luncheon, Board of Trade, noon. Gyro Club, luncheon, Spink Arms Hotel,

noon. Mercator Club, luncheon, Columbia Club, noon, Universal Club, luncheon, Columbia Club, noon

University of Michigan Club, luncheon, Board of Trade, noon. Purchasing Agents’ luncheon, Athenaeum, noon. Indianapolis Home Builders’ Association, dinner, Hoosier Athletic Club, 6:30 p. m. National Food Products Credit Group, meeting, Columbia Club, noon. ood Products Credit Group, meeting, Columbia Club, 6 p. m.

MEETINGS TOMORROW

Indiana Retail Hardware Association, state convention, Murat Temple, all day. Kiwanis Club, luncheon, Columbia Club,

noon. Lions Club, luncheon, Hotel Washington, noon. Indianapolis Apartment Owners Association, luncheon, Hotel Washington, noon. Young Men's Discussion Club, dinner, ¥Y. Ch A, Di m, Purdue Alumni Hotel Severin, noon. 12th District American Legion, luncheon,

Board of Trade, noon. ft a a Epsilon, luncheon, Board of

Association,

Association, Iyncheon,

jp | Ave.. Anna

Capitol, chronic myocarditis. cutiopd Allen Greer, 39, at

Beverage Credit Group, luncheon, Hotel Antlers, noon,

MARRIAGE LICENSES

(These lists are from official records in the County Court House. The Times, therefore, is not responsible for errors in names or addresses.)

Everett Butcher, 25, of Indianapolis; Zella M. Hawk, 2¢, of Indianapolis. Walter H, Upton, 22, of 1831 N. Capitol B. Ward, 19. of 717 E. 25th St. C. Schober, 28, of Indianapolis; Catherine E. B. Reents, 24, of Bloomington. R. W. Krebs, 25, of Baton Rouge, La.; Juanita Fife, 26, of 1212 Broadway. Clarence Pennington, 25, of 1401 W, 33d Shih swe I. Bright, 21, of 1901 E. t t. Perit O. Rhoades, 34, of 3649 Kenwood Ave lizabeth Kuropchak, 26, of Indianapolis. Julian C. Kennedy, 24, of 1733 N. Meridian St.; Mary E. Humphreys, 22, of 31 W.

d St. John F, Mount, 24, of 1801 Southwestern Ave.; Margaret M. Webb, 21, of 2222 Central Ave. Richard L. Cook, 21, of 1147 Hoyt Ave.; Garnet Stocton, 19, of 1151 Hoyt Ave.

y M. , of 705 E. Myrle E , 25, of 430 N. St.; Thelma M. Kunzeiman, 29, of 431 N Illinois St. Jesse Goodwin, 29, of 1848 Boulevard Place; Beatrice Moore, 20. of 910 N. Miley ve.

BIRTHS Boys Annabelle Shelley, at Coleman, James, Rosemary Cox, at City, Thurman, Mary Cushingberry, at City. Henry, Marie Baker, at Methodist. Mac, Lucille Miles, at Methodist. Philip, Dorothy Adler, at Methodist. Hubert, Lois Earle, at Methodist.

Wesley,

Francis, Christina Tucker, at 3450 Carson. Hubert, Bernice Bair, at 5472 8. Harding

LeRoy, Mary Roberts, at 1379 Nordyice. Frank, Margaret Diehl, at 1133 S. Tre-

mont. Lincoln, Geneva Robertson, at 226 S. Addison. Lyman, Bertha Meyers, at 2143 N. Capitol. Girls

Charles, Mary Heady, at Coleman, Donald, Lorene Sears, at Coleman. James, Eva Kinney, at Methodist. Fred, Eleanor Koster, at Methodist. James, Wilma Monday, at 447 E. South. Alex, Ruby McDonald, at 1147 Deloss. Volney, Irene Morse, at 1348 N. Olney. David, Ida Bikley, at 1930 E. 69th.

DEATHS

Newton Werner, 61, at 521 E. 22d, streptocoecic throat, 0

John F. Wood, 63, at 35 W. Ohio, coronary occlusion. Smith Thomas, 63, at City, chronic nephritis, arl Alpha Dyer, 28, at Methodist, encephalitis, Leota I. Osborn, 60, at Methodist, toxic

myocarditis. arion Anthony Roberts, 3 months, at St. Vincent's, gastro-enteritis. Thomas A, Hart, 45, at Veterans, ar-

teriosclerosis. Sue Belnap, 48, at Methodist,

noma. Cecelia Vurley, 55, at City, cerebral

hemorrhage. Carmillus Carr Settles, 66, at 2166 N.

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Mary Elizabeth Freeman, 67, at 1413 E. Raymond, chronic myocarditis. Mary Casey, 51, at 85¢ Torbett, bronchopneumonia. Emma Marsh, 73, at Methodist, fracture

of left femur. Blond, 41, at City,

Walter E. pneumonia. . Norma Jean Chance, 1, at Riley, whooping cough.

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OFFICIAL WEATHER

United States Weather Buren we... Sunrise ...... 7:00 | Sunset ...... 4:56

INDIANAPOLIS FORECAST—Snow flur-

ries with severe cold wave tonight; lowest temperature zero to 5 below; tomorrow cloudy and continued cold. TEMPERATURE Jan. 25, 1937— aman 2% 19 Maen 28 BAROMETER 78 MW... 29.56

Precipitation 24 hrs, ending 7 a. m... 20

Deficiency

MIDWEST WEATHER

Indiana—Cloudy tonight and tomorrow; snow flurries tonight except extreme southwest portion and snow flurries extreme north tomorrow; much colder tonight with severe cold wave central and north portions; colder northeast portion tomorrow.

Hlinois—Mostly cloudy, snow flurries northeast and extreme north; colder tonight and severe cold wave northeast portion; cloudy to partly cloudy tomorrow. continued cold.

Lower Michigan--Snow tonight and tomorrow, probably heavy north portion to-

night; colder tonight and tomorrow, severe cold wave tonight. Strong northwest winds and gales diminishing to-

morrow,

Ohio—Snow flurries considerably colder tonight; tomorrow generally fair in west and probably snow flurries in east portion, continued cold. Kentucky—Mostly cloudy and colder, probably snow flurries in east and central portions. tonight; tomorrow generally fair and continued cold.

WEATHER IN OTHER CITIES AT 7 A. M.

Station. Weather, Bar. Temp Amarillo, Tex, «.vsv...Clear 30.5¢ 22 Bismarck, N. D, ......Clear 30.66 —12 BOStOR ......\.v evr RR 52 50 Chicago ..... . . 20 Cincinnati .. . 2¢ Cleveland, O. 30 no RE, 56 20 Dodge City, Kas ' 18 Helena, Mont, 0.66 28 Jacksonville, . 54 Kansas City, Mo. ....Clear 30.16 12 Little Rock, ‘Ark. ....Clear 30.12 30 Los Angeles .......... Clear 30.4¢ 50 Miami, FIR. “ova Cloudy 30.02 64 Minneapolis ..... vee SNOW 29.94 0 Mobile, Ala. “vv....v Clear 30.10 44 New Orleans ........Clear 30.22 44 New York ........ Cloudy

Okla. Ci . Omaha, Neb. ......... C Pittsburgh ......v...«.Rai Portland, Ore. ....... P San Antonio, Tex. ...

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Stolberg Is Called C. I. O. Foe By Brophy and State Communist

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Bart Accuses Writer of | National Director Calls

Link to Trotsky, Denies Soviet Charges.

The following statement criticiz-

ing Benjamin Stolberg’s series, “In- | oy ! 5 | Stolberg, author of the “Inside the

side the C. I. O.,” published recently in the The Times, was written by Phil Bart, state secretary, Communist Party of Indiana:

Him Renegade Radical And Coughlin Ally. Times Special TOLEDO, O., Jan. 25.—Benjamin

C. I. O.” articles recently published

|in the Scripps-Howard newspapers, |is “a renegade radical,” according | to John Brophy, national director of

“In reviewing Benjamin Stolberg’s | the C. I. O.

12 articles, which are studded with | “Stalinists,” |

such trite gems as “Communist Disrupters,” “Party Line,” etc., we come to the comnclu= sion that they were incorrectly named “Inside the C. I. O.” They should have been named ‘“Anti-C. LO.” “We do not need to defend the C. I. O. against these attacks. We feel that the unions will take care of that matter themselves. Our aim is rather to reply to the unfounded insinuations of Stolberg concerning the Communist Party. However, it is necessary at least to point out his vilifications against the C. I. O. unions in order to show what his true colors are, “Naturally, he dare not openly attack the C. I. O. as such, but here are some of his descriptions of the men who lead and have built the C. I. O.: John Brophy, who has been chosen to direct the whole campaign, is described as a leader who “knows almost less than anyone else just what is going on around him”; Sidney Hillman, who is responsible for the organization drive in the textile industry, is referred to as one who has a “flair for publicity,” while the impression is given that John L. Lewis himself is being duped by the Communists.

‘Reaches New Low’

“When it comes to the Communists, Mr. Stolberg reaches a new low, We are asked to believe that the only purpose of the Communists in the trade unions is to serve the foreign policy of the Soviet Union. Stolberg has good reason, indeed, for bringing in foreign issues, since he himself is connected with a little gang headed by Leon Trotsky, who are bitter enemies of the Soviet Union and of the United States and every other democracy. Mr, Stolberg served on a committee which went to Mexico to see Trotsky. “As to the Communist position in

trade unions, it is a clear and open 3

one. Earl Browder, general secretary of the Communist Party of the United States, in a public letter to Homer Martin, president of the U. A. W. A, stated: “The Communist Party has no secret aim or policies; it has not the slightest desire to control the auto union or any other; the Communists are opposed to unauthorized strikes and are for a disciplined union in every case, based upon trade union democracy.” Com=munist Party members in all trade unions carry this policy into effect and co-operate with everyone in doing so.

Cites Support of Program

“We recognize the need for co-op-eration and unity of all the common people to safeguard our interests. This is what we mean by a People’s Front. In our opinion the message of President Roosevelt to Congress, as well as the program of the C. I.

41.0. and the public utterances of John

L. Lewis, form the basis for such a People’s Front platform. We are dedicated to complete co-operation to this end. And the American people have already given their support to this program at the last national elections in 1936, undismayed by the raising of the “red bogey-man,” and every politician who attempted to

Addressing a C. 1.0. mass meeting here last Friday night, Mr. Brophy said Mr. Stolberg “has joined hands with that exponent of social justice in words who does nothing in deeds.” He stressed his reference to the Rev. Charles E. Coughlin, founder of the National Union for Social Justice, by adding that men ‘“‘who talk a great deal about social justice are to be found no farther away than Royal Oak, Mich.” This is the site of Father Coughlin’s church. Mr. Brophy accused “the ultraMarxian Stolberg” of “entering into an arrangement to demean and discredit the C.I1.0.” He did not mention the Scripps-Howard newspapers by name, but described the group as “an erstwhile liberal chain which has accepted the doctrines of Hearst.” The Stolberg articles dealt with the activities of Communists in certain C. I. O. unions. In one article Mr. Stolberg described Mr. Brophy as “incredibly naive” and said “his utter guilelessness makes him the tool of all sorts of adventures, who appeal to his working class ideals.”

BOB BURNS Says: otwYwooD,

read the other day where a wellknown woman writer said that the only differ'nce between the oldfashioned girl and the modern girl

is the way they dress. I don't think that's fair, I believe that

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the modern girl is jest as sweet and shy as her = old = fashioned . sister, but you have'ta admit that she has advanced in her ideas. I have a friend who has been going around with a girl out here in Hollywood for almost a year and the other night he proposed to her. He says, “I love you and I want you to be my wife. Will you marry me?” The girl says “Why, this is so sudden—you've taken me by surprise and I hardly know what to say. Well, yes I will. Now wait jest a minute until I turn off the dictograph.” (Copyright, 1938)

revive the “red scare” went down to an ignoble defeat. “Of course, Mr. Stolberg is described as “left-wing plus”; he can better serve his purpose that way. Stolberg recognizes in advance what his “stories” amount to, and therefore cries “I am not red-baiting!” When a culprit is caught with the goods, he also joins in the shouting “Stop, thief!” Fortunately people are not fooled by this trick any longer. “The Communists, and we are sure every progressive will join with us, recognize this series of articles as anti-C. I. ©. We will continue to work with all progressives for a strong, unified trade union movement on the principles laid down by the C. 1. O.”

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Problem Serious, Hirota Says; Loyalists Ready to Quit Teruel.

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possibility, but that it depended on future developments.

Fierce Battle Reported In Vicinity of Wuhu

SHANGHAI, Jan. 25 (U. P).—A fierce battle between Japanese and Chinese regulars is raging in the vicinity of Wuhu, 50 miles up the Yangtse River from Nanking, it was reported today. Casualties on hoth sides were said to be enormous. In South China, a heavy Japanese bombardment of Namtau was reported.

30 Jap Planes

Bomb Canton Airport

CANTON, Jan. 25 (U. P.).—Thirty Japanese airplanes participated in an intensive bombardment of railways in the Canton area today and attempted to destroy the Tienho airdrome, near the American Seventh Day Adventist Hospital. The attack apparently was an attempt to destroy a new shipment of British planes for the Chinese forces.

Roosevelt Asks Aid

For War Victims

WASHINGTON, Jan. 25 (U. P.) = President Roosevelt appealed to the nation today to donate at least $1,000,000 to the American Red Cross for the relief of Chinese civilians deprived of their livelihood by the Sino-Japanese war.

Loyalists Prepare to

Evacuate Teruel

BARCELONA, Jan. 25 (U. P.).— Loyalist leaders are prepared to evacuate Teruel if and when advisable, it was said authoritatively today, but will not regard an evacuation as lessening the importance of their capture of the city. The view was taken that the Loyalists, by their capture of the city, had smashed Rebel plans for a big offensive. Twenty or more were killed today when Rebels dropped about 40 bombs in two raids here.

Jews Ask League

Support in Rumania

GENEVA, Jan. 25 (U. P.).—The World Jewish Congress circulated a 100-page petition among members of the League of Nations Council today urging the League to take action in behalf of 758,000 Jews threatened by the anti-Semitic program of the new government of Rumania.

LIMIT TRAINS’ SPEED ANDERSON, Jan. 25 (U. P.)—All steam and electric trains passing through Anderson will be limited to a speed of 25 miles an hour, effective next month. Mayor Harry R. Baldwin signed the ordinance limiting train speed after it was passed by the city council in an effort to check the mounting death toll at city crossings.

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Urges Safety

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Hallie Myers

60-MILE SPEED LIMIT PROPOSED

State Traffic Director Says Roads and Drivers Justify Law.

LAFAYETTE, Jan. 25 (U. P).— Hallie Myers, State Highway Commission traffic director, said today Indiana needs a speed law and that it probably would aid authorities in their fight against the increasing number of autombile accidents and fatalities.

Speaking before the annual road school at Purdue University, Mr. Myers suggested a maximum speed limit of 60 miles per hour for daytime” driving and 50 miles per hour for night driving. “In my opinion,” Mr. Myers said, “we do not have in Indiana roads that are safe at speeds over 60 miles an hour, and we do not have many drivers who are safe at that speed.

“There are too many slow moving vehicles on the road to make higher speeds safe.”

Cites Traffic Hazards

Mr. Myers attributed the State's poor safety record to the heavy traveled through highways that cross the State; lack of pedestrian training; lack of driving training; weather; darkness with its contributing factors, including sleepiness, fatigue and drinking.

Merton R. Keefe, State Highway Commission chief engineer, presided at the meeting today. Other speakers on the program included Prof, P. C. Rutledge of the Purdue staff, and Otto Hess, engineer-manager of the Kent County, Michigan, highway system, Special group meetings of the state highway maintenance and construction divisions were to be held this afternoon. County road supervisors, county surveyors and engineers will discuss their problems. Speakers include: S. R. Laughlin, Warsaw; H. O. Tapp, Vevay; O. N. Inman, Bedford, Irvan Craggs, Franklin; F. C. Deal, LaGrange; R. N. Horton, Madison; S. E. Keller, South Bend; Hugh W.

Wagner, Peru; William Folger, Rensselaer; Lawrence Woodward, Rockville; Elmer Harrison, Rush-

ville; Fred Hubbell, Angola; Harry K. Gottschalk, Ft. Wayne; Lloyd

Starnes, Bloomington, and Kenneth Smith, Lebanon,

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CLAPPER SEES BUSINESS-U. 3. ERA OF AMITY

Co-operation of Government And Firms Growing, Rotarians Told.

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White House a clearing house,” he explained. “He is trying to stimulate as much co-operative activity as pose sible. He is hopeful that the recove ery effort can be achieved through private co-operative activity with comparatively little Government legislation.” Declaring that business and Gove ernment are coming to a better understanding of the problems of each, he said that “there is hope that the long feud between Washe ington and business will fade out, This feud , . . has been a harmful thing.” Defending the Administration, he said that if the President has mise understood business, then busindgse men have not understood Washinge ton and are impajient with the ways of business and politics. “Government never can be busie nesslike in the sense that General Motors is businesslike,” Mr. Clap= per contended. “When President Knudsen of General Motors decides that there is not enough business, he whacks 30,000 men from the pay roll. President Knudsen can dictate, But if President Roosevelt wants to economize, he has to take a great many things into consideration.”

Cites Former Opposition

The speaker sald that as long as 100 years ago, there was opposition to Government expenditures for such purposes as schools, that the arguments against tax-supported schools were the same as those now heard against relief. He said that as late as President Hoover's time relief was not ree garded as a Government function, He said that it now is recognized that when labor layoffs by corpora= tions stop the income of an entire community, those victims are ene titled to public aid. He added that work relief, unemployment insure ance and other welfare programs still are in the experimental stages, “but we are learning gradually.”

Defends Government

He characterized public aid as “subsidizing private industry by supe porting its payroll during slack time out of public funds.” “Of course there is a great deal of sloppy management, carelessness and lost motion in Government op=eration,” Mr. Clapper conceded, “but even here I think we tend to judge government by its worst exe amples and business by its better ones. I don't think you will find anything worse in government than was found in some of the corporate reorganizations.” Repeating his contentions that business principles could not solve government problems, Mr. Clapper said that as President Roosevelt has pointed out repeatedly, you cannot save much money unless you are willing to abandon functions. “What you can save by tightening up clerical administration would be only chicken feed. That is desirable, but don’t expect it to reduce your taxes, Taxes and the cost of Gove ernment are going to stay high. By your criticism and pressure, you may succeer in making the Government wiser in policies, but you are not likely to make it much cheaper.”

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