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Verbatim Testimony of Wayne Coy and Peter Cancilla at Baker Trial—Continued

(Continued from Page 12)

There had been no occasion for any difficulties.

Q—1I didn't ask you if there had | Did you

been any occasion for it. have any? A--No. Q—Did you have any with him when you met first time? A-—No. Q—You were friendly, weren't vou. A—Yes. Q—Were vou friendly with Joel Baker then? A--Yes, sin Q—You are friendly now, aren’t you? A—I have no occasion to be friendly or unfriendly with him. Q—Well, you are not unfriendly towards him are you? A—Today? Q—Yes. A-—Yes, sir. Q—Were you unfriendly to him when you met him there in the Senate Chamber, when you was talking about this welfare bill? A—A little aggravated, was all. Q—A little aggravated, not unfriendly? A—I was busy, had something to do. Q—You didn't want to be hothered? A—I was busy with something else. Q—In other words, you trying to get Senate Bill 173 through the Legislature? A-—That's right. Q—That was called Bill? A-—That's right. one part of the bill.

then,

were

the Merit That was

Q—You talked about it being the |

A—That is one of the 1

Merit Bill. amenaments some 18 or 20 Q—That is what you were insisting on? A-—I was insisting on passage of the bill. Q—You wanted that in it? That was one of vour pets m the bill. A— No. I was insisting on the entire bill being passed. Q—You weren't particular on the merit system, were you? A-—I was inisisting on that being pessed along with all of it. Q—You know thev had a Police Merit Bill over there, didn't you? MR. SPENCER— I object. I don’t see how the Police Merit Bill would bearing. MR. KARRER— I will withdraw that and ask another. Q—I will ask vou if Peter Cancilla when he came (0 you didn't

say this to you, he said, "Now, Coy. | you. | I want you to help me get the Merit |

I have done some things for

A—He did not. say that

Bill through.” Q—He didn't A—No.

Q—There was a Police Merit Bill

going through at that time, wasn't there? A—I don’t know, Q—You didn't recall there was or not? A-—No, Q—And on this occasion you say that Joel Baker said, “Well, you won't live to see this bill passed,” whe was around you when he said that, several people? A—No one. Q—Where were you? A—In the back of the Senate Chamber, Q—By yourselves? A—Yes, Q—Did you walk out with him? A—No. Q—What did you say to him? A— I didn't say anything te him. Q—Didn't say a A—No. Q—You about that particularly. Q—No. He didn't say anything about causing you, killing you or anything at that time, did he? A— No. Q—As far as you know, he meant by that that in his opinion he thought the bill should not pass and he didn't think the Legislature would pass it, and you wouldn't live long enough to pass it? A—As far as I could interpret his thoughts, ves. Q—You say vou patted Mr. Cancilla on the arm? A—Yes, sir. Q—That was during the special session, wasn't it? A-No. The January-February session in 1935. Q—Oh, 1935. A-—Yes, sir. Q—Some two years before that? A—About two years before.

whether

word to him? |

didn't think at that time?

anything | A—Not

Q—Where was that, In the legis-

lative halls or in vour office? A—In the corridor just outside of the Speaker's room in the House of Representatives. Q—He didn't say anything about hitting anybody, did he? A—No. he didn’t. Q—Didn’t make any reference about hitting anybody, did he? A—Unless you could infer . Q—I am not asking vou about what you infer, but about his statements. A—Except that Pete was his man. Q—Well, you are Governor MecNutt's man, aren't you? A—Not in that sense. Q—When you work for him, you are under his direct supervision, aren't you? A-—That is right. I didn’t know Pete worked for him, though. Q—As far as vou know, outside of that statement, he never told yeu after that that Pete Cancilla worked for him or was his man? A—I only inferred he warked for him in the comparison vou made to me about the Governor. Q—He works for him? A—I don’t know. I inferred it from his remarks, Q—The Governor don’t pay vou, does he? A—No, the Federal Govermment pays me. Q—How tall are ten. Q—Five foot ten. A-—Yes, sir. Q@—You never had a fight in your life, did you? A—Yes, sir, as a kid. Q—Yes, you fought a little around, done a little fighting on your own hook? A—Yes, usually got whipped, didn't like it very well. Q--Usually got whipped? Didn't like it very well. Q—How many times did you have a fight? A—I don’t remember. Q—How many times? A—I don't recall that long ago. Q—How old are you? Q—Well, now,

you? A--Five

A—33. did Mr. Cancilla

grab you around the throat and hold |

your head down? A—I don't know. Q—You don't know that? A-—No. rom the time he hit me the first blow———, Q—I mean before he hit you the first blow, did he have you around the neck? A—No, I was walking away from him. My back was to him. Q—You say your back was to him when he hit you the first blow? A—That’s right. Q—Where was that first blow that he hit you when your back was to him? A—In the left temple. Q—Did he hit you again in the left temple? A—He did not, as I recall. I don’t know. He hit a in the mouth and I

difficulty | him the |

think there were |

have any |

to you?

1 Q=Did he held your neck when he hit you in the mouth? A-X | can’t remember very well, except feeling the blow in my mouth, I don't know whether he did or not. Al I had was the fear I was going to be hit several more times. Q—Did he hit you several more times? A—I don't know. He hit me hard enough the first time that I can’t say. [ Q—You didn't | when Cancilla hit you, A—No, I didn’t. | Q—He wasn't anywhere around, [was he? A-—I don't know.

see Joel Baker

did you? |

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| floor of the State House, close to | gether.

QR—Where were you stationed? MR. HAGEMEIER— Objection. MR. KARRERAll right, let it go. Q-—Now, Mr. Cancilla, did you see Dewey Myers on that day? The first of March? A-Yes, sir, I did. Q-—Where did you see him? A-— I saw him in the lobby of the third

the House of Representatives. Q—Did you have any talk with hi say te him?

m A--Yes, sir. Q--What did you A-—-Well, we walked and approached each other, and I said, "Dewey, why don’t you come over to club once in a while for lunch? He said, "Oh,

Q—You say that is all he said| well, I get so busy, I don't get off

to you? He wanted you

to take the bench until 12 o'clock, get busy

[the heat off of Senate Bill 173? | downtown and don't get a chance to

| A—The first | me——-,

thing he said to | come down there often.”

| Q—How long did you talk to him |

there? A—Oh, [ minuve, Maybe a ( maybe a little less.

approximately

a little over and |

| Q-—Wasn't much over a minute, | [ was it? A—No, it was a very short | time you were talking to Judge

| time. [ Q—You didn't have no argument [ with him at all? A—No. He asked | me to do something and I told him [TI couldn't do it. | was to it. Q—You didn't have no scuffle? A—No. Q—No scuffle? A-—No,

Q—Did you grab him at | ime? A—No, sir, | PROSECUTOR | Q—Who did pay the expenses | of your trip to Washington from which you just got back? A—The Prosecutor of Marion County. | Q-—No, to Washington. A—My | expenses to Washington were paid by the Federal Government, I went on official business. Q—Do you know who paid your expenses from Manila to Indian- | apolis? A—I do, | Q—AN right, who? A—The Marion County Prosecutor. MR. KARRER— Q—You ask about who paid your | expenses to Washington; did you | talk to anybody there about get[ling away from Senator VanNuys | and about what counsel said about | getting away from him? A-—-I did not. (Witness excused.)

any

Peter A. Cancilla

MR. KARRER—

Q—State your name to this court and jury. A—Peter A. Cancilla. | Q—Where do you live, Mr, Cancilla? A—1530 N. Illinois. Q—And are you married? A— | Yes, sir, | Q—What is your business. | Attorney. | Q—How long have you been an | attorney? A—About 15 years. Q—Youre a defendant in this case? A-—-Yes. Q—But youre not on trial now? A—No, Q—Have vou ever been arrested | and convicted? A—Yes, sir. O—For what? A—I was are rested and convicted of assault. Q—Did you pay a fine on that? A—Yes, sir. Q—How much?

A—

A—8§50.

| @Q@—Were you arrested and con- |

A—Yes. | | ing?

| victed for anything else? I was arrested and convicted, I | think, about 20 years ago in New | York. | PROSECUTOR— | Objection. | JUDGE EMMERT— Overruled. A—I was arrested for grand | arceny in New York, I think in [1620 or 1919. I was tried and convicted, retried and acquitted. Q—Now, were you in the State House on March 1st? A—I was, | Yes, sir.

That is all there |

| |

Q—Did vou see Wayne Coy there? |

A—Yes, sir. Q—And I will ask you where you | first saw him. A—I saw him in | the hall, in the lobby there. | Q—In the lobby? A—Yes, sir. |

Q—And did vou have a conversation with him? A—Yes, sir. Q—Kindly state what he said, and what you said. A—It was a short conversation. I said, “Wait, Yd like to speak to you.” We stopped and I leaned against the wall there, and he stood in front of me. I said, “Is the Police Merit Bill an Administration bill?” and he said, “I haven't got time for you and your friends.” And I said, “Well, I've always had time for you and your friends.” And he said, “Well, I haven't got time to talk to you.” And I said, “You talk like a cheap politician.” He said, “You cheap --~ == = «eu. and he pushed me against the wall and I hit him. Q—Did you hit him more than once? A—YVYes, sir. Q—What did you do then? I walked away, Q—Did you hold him around the neck and hit him? Did you come back again and hold him around the neck and beat him? A—No, sir. Q—I will ask you if at the time vou struck Wayne Coy was that under the direction of Joel Baker? A—No, sir, Q—-Did Joel Baker ever coerce you and cause you to do anything that you did, did Joel Baker have anything to do with it? A—No, sir. Absolutely not. Q—Did you have anything to do with Joel Baker? A—Absolutely not. Q—Was it. his suggestion that you struck Coy? A—No. Q—Did he hire you to strike him? A—Absolutely not. Q—Did he counsel you to strike him? A-—No, sir. Q—You weren't acting under any orders from him? A-—No, sir. Q—What you stated here of what occurred was strictly on your own hook? A—That's right. Q—At the time that you hit Wayne Coy ‘did you have any intention of killing him? A—Of course not. I was sorry after it happened. Q—1I believe I forgot to ask you,

A—Yes, sir. Q—How long did you serve in the Marines? A—26 months. Q—Are you a member of the merican Legion? A-—Yes, sir. Q—You say you served in the Ma- | rines 26 months? A-—About that. he how old are you now? A

Q—How old were you when you

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That about all the conversation. Q—-Did you him? A--Yes, sir, I invited him to have a drink. Q--Did anybody go with A-—-Yes, sir, Mr. Baker did.

Q—Was Mr. Baker there at the |

Myers? A--No, sir, he wasn't, Q-—-How did Baker get into that? A—He approached us, and as he approached I said, “Let's all three go have a drink.” Q-—Did vou go have a drink? Yes, sir, we walked out entrance of the State House, over to the Harrison bar room. Q--Did you have a drink there? A—Yes, sir. Q—You and Dewey Myers and— A—And Mr. Baker. Q-—Talk together there? sir. Q—Did Joel Baker say anything to you about wanting you to go and “get that guy”? A—No, he did not. Q—Was there anything in that conversation between Judge Myers —Did Joel Baker at any time say in your presence, “It is time to go get that guy? “A—Never any such thing said. Q-—-What was said Well, we talked about his defeat in the last election as a delegate to the State convention. We talked about different delegates, Greenlee, ana Townsend and McKinney, delegates. Mr. Bradshaw's name Was mentioned. Said somehing, Mr. Baker asked Mr. Myers, Judge Myers, if he felt bad about it, and he said, “No, I don't. I don't know how Bradshaw feels.” Q—Did Mr. Baker say there as to where he was going or not? A-—Yes, sir. Q—When you were in there? Yes, sir. Q—What did he say? A—Ne said, “I have to go and see that fellow.” Q—Did you say anything to him in reference to that? A-—I said, “Well you have got plenty of time.” I hadn't used all my drink yet, T wanted to stay. Q—-Do6 you know who he meant by that fellow? A-—I understood it was Stein. MR. HAGEMEIER— Objection, WITNESS — A-—He told me Stein, the Speaker of the House. MR. HAGEMEIER— Move the answer be stricken out. MR. KARRER— Q—Did he tell you he was going to see Stein, the Speaker of the House? A-—-Yes. Q—State whether or not he said where he was going? A-—Yes. Q—Where did he say he was goA—He said he was going to see Stein, Speaker of the House. Said he had an appointment with him. , Q—Did you and Myers talk about where—did Myers say anything as to what he was doing over there in that conversation? Answer the question yes or no. A-—Yes. Q—What did he tell you he was doing there? A—The conversation was, I asked him what he was doing there. He said he was interested in the probation bill in which the probation department of his courtroom was te be altered or removed, and I said, “Did you have any luck with your bill?” and he said, “No.” Then I said, “Well, I am interested in the police merit bill. I have just got to get some information on it.” He said, “Well, most of those over there ought to be run out of town anyhow.” A Q—Meaning who? MR. HAGEMEIER— Objection. MR. KARRER— Withdraw that, Q—Did he say who he meant by that? A—Yes, sir. Said members of the Senate and House of Representatives. Q—Now did you state in that same conversation what vou were interested in over there. Answer yes or no. A-—Yes, sir, Vb was it? A—Police merit 111. Q—And now, after you—was there anything else said by Myers outside of that that you recall? A—I believe he said he had to get back to

A—Yes,

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the court room, it was just about 12 o'clock. Q--Did you leave the hotel there? A-—Yes, we were there only a few minutes, time to have one drink. Q-—-Where did you go? A—Well, then, Mr. Baker was going to leave and I said, “I will go with you, if vou wait until I get through with this drink.” We walked over toI left him on the first floor, he went into the Governor's office. Q--Where did you go? A-—Went to the elevator, to the second floor, Q-Did you see Mr. Baker after that? A-—I did not. Q—When next did you see him after that? A-—March 12. Twelve days later in the Senate Chamber, Q-—And did he say anything to you about striking Coy on the way over there? A-—Of course not. Q — You didn’t tell him you was going out and punch Coy in the nose? A—I did not know who Coy was very well, I had never talked about Coy. I never knew I would run inte him. Q-—You happened to see him there, and asked him about the Police Merit Bill? A—That's right.

Q—I will ask you whether this |

conversation happened in the presence of Judge Myers, being said by Joel Baker, the defendant: “It is time to go get that guy,” and you answered to that, “Let's wait a couple of hours. Do you think we ought to do that.” Did that occur? A—Absolutely not. Q—Did anything in substance like that occur? A—No, sir, Q-I will ask vou when you left the Harrison Hotel, did you «= I will ask you at the time you left the Harrison Hotel with Mr, Baker was there a waitress there or someone at the door, and you said, "I have a little job to do.” A—I did not Q—What door did vou and Mr. Baker leave at? A--Capitol Ave, nearest toward the State House.

Q—Did you hear her make any | | remarks to you of any kind asking there? A--|You to come back, anything like

that? A-—-No, sir. Q-—Now, after you had this altercation or fight with Wayne Coy, where did you go? the west entrance of the State House, walked south on Senate Ave,

rear of cab,

Q—Where did you go? A--T had

anvthing | the driver drive me to Washington

and Delaware St. Q—Then what did vou do? A-—-I

A— got out of the cab and walked two | on lor three blocks and finally went then, didn’t you?

home, Q—Did you stay here in town all the time? A—No, sir, Py you leave town? A—Yes, sir, Q—Where did you go? A—Buffalo, N. Y. Q—How long did vou stay at Buffalo? A—Until about March 10 or 11, Q—Did you learn anything while you were in Buffalo? A— Yes, sir, Q—What? A—I learned I was indicted and I returned. Q—You returned? Did vou come directly by train? A-<No, sir, Q—How did you get back to Indianapolis? A—By taxicab from Anderson, Ind. Q—Was there any reason for that? A-—Yes, sir. Q—Tell the jury why that was. A—I didn’t want the State Police te get me, I wanted to come down and surrender, Q—You had some experience with that state machine over there, had you? MR. HAGEMEITER — Objection. Withdraw it. MR. KARRER-— All right. Q—Now, you have heard about the State Police kidnaping people and bringing them down from all over the state? A-—Yes, sir. MR. SPENCER— : Objection. I ask that answer be stricken out, JUDGE EMMERT— Sustained.

| Q—Now, do you know Mr. Baker? | | A—Yes, sir. Q—And where had vou met him |

that morning? A-—-At his office, or outside his office.

Q—Where did you go from his |

office? A—Well, we went into the

Harrison bar, on our way to the | State House, and stopped at the |

Harrison Hotel bar room at my invitation. Q—Then you went from the Harrison barroom where? A—To the State House. Q—What time was That was close to 11, 11.

that?

10 or 15 to

then where he was going? A—

Told me he was going to see Stein, |

Speaker of the House. Q—Did you leave the barroom then, about 11? A—Yes, sir. Q—Where did he go, if you know? A—Well, we both went up to the elevator, and both went to the third floor of the State House. We separated at the elevator, I stopped and

A—1 walked out |

A— |

Q—Did he say anything to you

talked to Skit Simmons or someone there, and, Mr. Baker went on toward the office of the Speaker, Q-—And that was the first time? A-=Yes, sir, Q-—Now, this other thing, that you testified when you met Dewey Myers, that was the time that you came across the street MR. HAGEMEIER Obecjtion, JUDGE EMMERT Sustained. R-—State whether or not at the time you met Judge Myers in the corridor of the State House, whether that was the first or second time that you were at the State House A—That was the first time I was at [the State House | Q==How long was that before the [altercation you had with Coy? A [ Oh, three-quarters of an hour or an | hour, Q--Now, I will ask vou after this altercation vou had with Coy if you ‘met Mr, Joel Baker in the Harrison | Hotel, and had a drink with him, | MR, HAGEMEIER-— Objection. | MR. KARRERThat calls for ves or no JUDGE EMMERT Objection overruled. AI did not | Q=State whether or not you went | to the Harrison Hotel after you had an altercation with Mr. Coy? Al did not. 150 people chased me, I couldn’t be there, QI didn’t ask vou that. 1 asked vou whether you went to the Har. rison Hotel with Mr. Baker. (Recess Called) MR. KARRER QUESTIONING — Q-—Now, Mr, Cancilla, no one has talked to you since recess. A-—No, sir. Q-—-Did you ever hold any official | position in Marion County? A--Yes, | sir. | R-—What official position did you | hold? A-—Deputy prosecutor, under | Spencer, Q—How long did vou hold that | position? A-—About six months. | Q-—He knew your right name,

Q—He knew how to pronounce it

the store, and I got into the | _he never called you Can-cilla, or |

Can-cheely, did he? A-—He pro- | nounced it correctly. Q—Did you know Mr. Spencer | when he was campaigning—running | for office? A-—Yes. | Q-=You ran around with A-—-Yes, | Q—You kept company with him [and he kept company with you, did [he not? A--Yes | Q—How long have vou (him? A-—Eight or nine vears | Q=Did you know Mr, Coy at the convention there (gesturing)? A—Yes, Q—Did you A—Yes, sir. Q—Had you and Mr. Coy been unfriendly prior to this fight? A—No, sir. Q—Do you know Mr. meier? A—Yes, sir, Q—And for what reason did you leave the prosecutor's office, if vou did leave the prosecutor's office? What reason—, A—Well, Mr. Spencer had issued an order that had existed for 30 or 40 years, that a deputy in the prosecutor's office could not and must not practice criminal law, and I could not afford to remain for $140 a month. Q—Then vou resigned? weren't fired? A-—No, sir.

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Q-In other words, you weren't | fired? A==No, Q-—These other deputies—they | practice criminal law? | Prosecution Objection. Judge Emmerte Sustained: Q-Now, I will ask you whether or | not at any time vou were ever in| Mr, Coy's presence in 1035 when | Mr, Baker stated, "This is my man,” | and patted your right arm. A That's false. PROSECUTION Objection, [JUDGE EMMERT - Objection sustained. Q--Answer the question "Yes" or “No.” A=-No. | | Q=Do you recall when you first | | met Coy? A=Yes, [ Q--Where an when was that? | A= believe it was when he was at | | the head of the Clemency Depart | ment in the Governor's office, | Was he under-Secretary to the Governor then? A--No. When he | was the head of the Clemency Des | partment in 1032, R-You knew him then? sir, Q-—-Did anyone introduce you ovr did you introduce yourself? A-It was just a business call, R--And that was the first you met him? A-Yes, Q=Did you see him during the special session of the 1936 Legis | lature? A-Many times. I worked | with him, Q-State whether or not there was a welfare bill passed in the 1936 session. A-Yes. Q-And I will ask you whether or not you and Mr. Coy worked together on that Welfare Bill, A—Well, what I mean, we were both on the same side. R--You talked to him about it? A--Yes, frequently. | Q--That was in the special session? | A=Y'es, sir, | Q--How long did that last? A[About 10 days—not less than 10 | days, I believe, Q-Now, vou know a fellow by the (name of Art Rose? A-I believe I do. I don't know him personally. Q-I'll ask you if you recall havover at the State

A--Yes,

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| A=TI don't recall having seen him. Q—Were you in the House of Representatives that morning? A «Oh, 1 may have stepped in a minute and walked out, Q-—Were vou in the House of Representatives with Joel Baker that morning? A~No, sir,

Q—Were you around with him in the corriors of the State House? A—Not—Until we got to the elevators, and he went to the Speaker's office an I talke to Paul Duffy. I left him at the elevator, Q—Did you sce him after that | | | |

at all? A—When he approached Judge Myers and 1. Q-—That's the first time you had seen him-—-I mean after you had [ been with him the first time? AYes, sir CROSS-EXAMINATION | Prosecutor Questioning R-—-When were vou sworn to tess This morning.

| ify? A Q—This morning? Q-—Where do you live now? 1530 N. Illinois. Q—~Where were vou living on | March 1st of this year? A-1530 N. Illinois. | | Q—What time did you arrive | downtown on the morning of March 1, 1937? A-—The first time, you

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Q«=What time did you first see Joel Baker? Oh, I'd say about 10:30, 1 guess, or 10:35, Ques And that was in front of his office? A«Either there or inside<-1 don't know, Q-<<There on Market St, in front of the old Wild Bank Building? AwYos, Q<<Where did you go from there? Aswad went toward the State House and stopped at the Harrison Bar,

Q--What time did you stop in the Harrison Bar? A-About 15 or minutes to 11. Q--~What did you A-Had a few drinks, Q-<Of whisky? A-~Yes, Q-<Anyone in there besides yours self and Joel? A-~There was the bartender, QRQ-Did you see Sarah Kirby in there? A--Not at that time. She may have been in one of the separate rooms there. She was not in the barroom R-=What time was it that you struck Wayne Coy? A--Well, it was pretty close to noon. It might have been five minutes after noon, R-It was right around. noon, though? A--Yes., Right around 12 or five after. That may be all, Not more than 10 minutes after noon, Q--Where had you been just prior to meeting Wayne Coy there? A I wag in the lobby there, walking around and talking to people 1 knew, Q-—How long did you walk around and talk in the lobby? A«<Not over two or three minutes, Q--And prior to the walked and talked in where had you been? Harrison Bar, Q-And what time did you leave the Harrison bar? A-Oh, two or three minutes—maybe five minutes before 12, Q-And how long had you been in

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the Harrison bar? A--Not over two or three minutes, R-=Now, when you left the Harrie al that time, Joel Baker left with you? A«Yes, sir, Q-Did you see Sarah Kirby then? A«8he may have been in there, I don't recall Q-«Where did you go 10? A-Wens across the street to the State House, R-«Where did you go first, in the State House? A-Just walked in the

| east entrance, beat it toward the {elevator [ Q==Did you see Charles Marshall | there? A«=No, I did not, Q==Dn you know him? AN, I don't know him, | Q«<And did yon get on the ele. | vator? A«Yes, sir, Q==Did Joel get on? A«No, sir, Q-=And that was a little before 122 A=Yon, sir, A=«And that is the last time you saw Joel Baker, for 12 days? Is that right? A«That's right, Q-Is that what you want us to understand, you left him there, got (on the elevator and never saw him | again? A-Yeos, sir, R--And you want the jury to uns derstand that you and Joel did not see Art Rose there, a little after 12, by the House of Reprosentatives, You never saw Joel, after you lefs [the Harrison the last time, before | noon, you didn't see Joel on the {third floor? A-<No, sir, Q==And after you struck Coy [ you say you went immediately to [ the Fair Store? A«Yes, sir, QI that Eddie Traugott's | | |

store? A-Yes, sir, Qu-Did you see Eddie Traugott { there? A«No, Q=You bought an overcoat { there, didn't you? A«No, sir, Q=Did you have an overcoat? | A==Yes, sir, Q=What did you do with that Continued on Page 16)

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