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ONDAY, MARCH 8, 1937

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Testimony of Witnesses at Saturday's Hearing

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day the assault occurred. have never seen him at all. Q—Did you ever see him, have never seen him at all. Q—Did you see him on Monday. A—I have not. Q—Do you know where he hangs out. A--I know a bar room where he used to hang out. Q—Do you know where he lives.

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A—No, I never did know where he

lives, never. Q—Did you ever see him in or around the Vienna Cafe. A—That is where I see him. Q—How often have you seen him there. A—I was there two or three times. He was in twice. I was only in two or three times. WITNESS EXCUSED.

JOHN F. DUGAN

Q—State your name to the committee. A—John F. Dugan. Q—Your business? A—A police officer, Q—City of Indianapolis? A—Yes, Sir, Q—Assigned to what particular work? A—At the present time, the detective bureau. Q—Do you have any particular assignment in the detective bureau? A—Work on the auto theft. Q—Were you assigned to the Prosecutor’s office? A—Yes, sir. Q—When? and four months ago, under Her- | bert Wilson, and I have been with | Mr. Spencer since he came in office | the first time. Q—Are you assigned to his office | now? A—Yes, sir. Q—And your particular work is| the work on aute theft? A—My | work at the present time I am down | in the detective’s office. I worked | on personal assignments under the | prosecutor and all his deputies in | the Criminal Court, that is cennect- | ed with the Criminal Court, or I have done things for maybe some | of the other deputy prosecutors, as | well. He has some 30 or 35 men working under him, Mr. Goett in| the Grand Jury. Q—Are you doing that particular work now? A—No, sir. { Q—When did that particular | work terminate? A—I think I came | from Southport with Ed Knight and | one of his deputies at a quarter of 2 day before vesterday and he told me that I would be transferred to | the detective department. Q—So you were so connected up| until day before vesterday? A—Yes, sir, I believe that is right. @—While you were connected | with the Prosecutor's office as you have described, were you over here at the State House during the pres- | ent session? A-—I think I was in| the State House since the Legisla- | ture was in session about three | times. | Q—And the occasion for coming | to the State House? A-—Not particularly, no. Q—No occasion? ticularly. | Q—-Well, any occasion at all? A—! No, I wouldn’t say that I did. Q—Did you come with anybody? A—I did. { Q—With whom? A—Twice I came with Mr. Dalton, and the other time | with Mr. Lynch, and he went one | way in the building and I went an- | other. Q—Mr. Lynch, who is he? A—He | is investigator with the Prosecuting | Attorney’s office, not connected with the Police Department. Q—You weren't carrying on investigation in the State House? A— | No, I met Mr. Spencer and stopped. | I am in and out all the time. Q—Were you interested in any | particular legislation? A--No, not | particularly, I knew about the police | salary bill, knew it was in the Sen- | ate, walked over here with Mr. Dal- | ton. I approached. no senator nor | talked with him at any time or no member of the House of Representatives., There is one I have known | for about 25 years. Q—You never discussed present | Jegislation in the present General | Assembly with any member? A— | No, sir. Q—Were you present when the | conversation took place between Mr. | Cleary and Mr. Dalton, who has just | testified, last Monday afternoon. A— | Yes, sir. Q—Tell the Committee what took | place? A—I came up that day on |

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A—About three years | York and Pennsylvania League.

| how long a time?

| purchasing agent

| under Duval?

| the elevator and as I stepped off | the elevator 1 saw Mr. Dalton standing near the lunch counter out {in the corridor. As I walked over | Senator Cleary walked over to us | and I said, Hello, Senator, I began talking about the incident. had heard about it 15 or 20 min- | utes previors to that, I don’t know | whether it had been any longer | than that or not, and he took, of | course, he mentioned the incident | happening, of which at the time 'I didn’t know whether the man i was hurt bad, whether he was in | the hospital or where he was, and

{ a | | I can’t recall exactly his words. He

| said, “That is a terrible thing,” or | might have used some other word, | “happened over there; got to stand

| for that kind of business” or words |

| in substance to that effect, and Dal- | ton spoke up and he said, “Why, | he got hit at a convention two | years ago,” or similar words to | that, he walked immediately away | at that time. Q—Then was that the end of the conversation at that time, Mr. Dugan? A—That is all of that con- | versation, to my knowledge, that | ever took place. That is, at that | time, | Q—Well, you don't know of any later, do vou. between Cleary and anyone? A—Not later, no. | Q—Or prior? A—One day there at which—I never have been what | you say well acquainted with him, | like a lot of people. I asked where (he umpired, he told me the New I

told him

years. sation.

Q—Just a casual

No, sir.

Q—Now, you say as investigator |

over there at the Prosecutor’s offi ber of years, you have been acquainted with Joel Baker? A — Yes, sir. Q—Been acquainted with him

have known

I forget now, it has been a number of years ago, maybe 12 or 15 years, I don’t recall exactly. Q—Since here in the State House? With the City? Or with the Court? under L. Slack, when he was Mayor. during Slack’s administration, when John L. Duval was sent to jail or was convicted, or whatever took place.

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Q—Was he city purchasing agent | | tent.

A—I don’t think so. Q—But as soon as Slack came in he was appointed? that is right. Q—What position did after that time?

he hold

something about Harry | Giesel, who is an Indianapolis man, | been in the American League for | I don’t recall the conver- |

conversation, | nothing about the Legislature? A— |

ce, you have been there a num- | | cians gave Joseph Daly Jr, 11, an]

A—I expect I] Joel since he had a position here in the State House.

| had been pushed toward the right.

A—I believe |

A—I don't recall!

yduties? A—I haven't seen him about the Court House. Q—You would see him about the city quite often, wouldn't you, Mr. Dugan? A—No, I haven't practically had no dealings other than to speak to him, and to say, “How do you do.” @Q—This man Cancilla was an attorney in the city? A—Yes, sir. Q—You don't know where he is jnow? A-—No, sir. Q—He practiced in the Criminal Court? A—Well, he practices there once in a while. I do know Joel Baker well, but that is all the dealings that I have had as he came and went, might talk to him once in a while, or occasionally in the courts,

any position Joel held until he came in the Chiminal Court. Q—AIll right. When did he come | in the Criminal Court? A—To my best knowledge it was with Judge Baker. Q—At the time Judge Baker came into the Criminal Court? A—I had no particular reason for knowing that thoroughly, but that is my best | judgment. Q—What position did he occupy { when he first came into the Crimi[nal Court? A—Well, I guess his | rank, 1 suppose, was probation of- | ficers. Q—Rank, probation officer. Did | he perform any other functions, | other than probation officer? A— | I wouldn't know. | Q—How long did he occupy the | position of probation officer in the | Criminal Court? A—Up until he was made the County Welfare Di- | rector. . Q—Do you know whether he continued to be a probation officer in the Criminal Court after he was made welfare director? A-—I don’t | know. There was a man named Al | Cooley took his position. I don’t| Q—How long was he deputy proseknow whether he had anything to |cutor? A—Can’t just say. do with it or not. | @Q—You were investigator in the

to be treated myself.

court? A—Well, he has been in there several times, yes, sir. Q—Defending people in courts? A—Yes, also a deputy prosecutor. Q—Who is the deputy prosecutor?

A—Mr. Spencer.

Q—While he was probation officer, | Prosecutor's office while he was

|did he have any other public of- deputy prosecutor. A—Yes. fice? A—Not to my knowledge. : | Q—Now, since he has been wel- | say I was in close contact with him | fare director has he been about the | because he was in the Superior

| Court House any? Performing any | Court and only occasionally some- |

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normal weight and build and a | “regular boy,” ‘vas admitted to St.| | Vincent's Hospital Friday night. He |

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About 40 physicians witnessed | Approximately 75 model airplanes the operation Saturdiy, which was | were exhibited in Tomlinson Hall performed by Dr. Clarence P. How- | Saturday night under auspices of ley. Later, a reverse penumothorax | the Indiana Gas Model Association was performed on the left lung, col- | and the American Flying Corps. lapsed by the pressure of the mis- | Prize winners included Roscoe placed organs. These included | Judd. Ralph Holmes, Karl Schakle, stomach, spleen, large intestine and | Kenneth Ernst, Raymond Scott and

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His condition was said to be! Robert Merrill, held on charges “quite good-—onsidering what he! of burglary, was in City Hospital has been through.” | today for injuries received yesterDiaphragmatic hernia was the|day when he collapsed on the steps medical term applied to his ail-| of the Marion County Jail cell ment. He had never before been | block, and fell down a flight, striktreated. "ing his head.

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treat him as a gentleman, as I like | ; (came did you see either of them? |

Q—But Cancilla, Mr. Dugan, he tried criminal cases, did he, in the |

the |

Q@—With him? A—No, I wouldn't |

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thing comes up in the Superior | Courts that I have much dealings | with.

| Q—What do you mean, Mr. Du- |

| gan, Superior Court? A-—That is | where divorce suits and damage | suits and things of that kind are | tried. Q—While Deputy Prosecutor, he was connected with divorce cases, { wasn't he? A—Yes, sir. Q—They weren't tried | Criminal Court? A-—No, sir. | Q==They were tried in the Munic|ipal Courts? A-—Yes, sir. Q—This man Cancilla, you didn't | see him Monday? A-—I haven't seen | Cancilla any time I came in this | State House, nor Joel Baker. Q—On no occasion, when

in the

you A—Absolutely not. [the Wayne Coy incident? A—No, sir, | ‘of either of them? A—No, sir, | @Q@—Do you know anything about | the Welfare Bill. A—Absolutely not. Never knew there was such a thing in the building. Q—You weren't sent here by Joel Baker for any purpose | were you? A-—Absolutely not. WITNESS EXCUSED.

Q—You may state your please. A—I. C. Spencer.

I. C. SPENCER

[ion County Welfare Department?

Q—In what capacity, Mr. Spen- | cer? A—Office manager. Q—Where in the office, do you | {have a desk, with reference to Joel | | Baker's desk? A—Well, it is out | in the general office, three offices | | away from Mr. Baker's office. | | Q—And you are located where in | | the city of Indianapolis. A—123 E. | Market, Q—For the record, you | quainted with Joes Baker? Sir. | Q—Well acquainted with him?

are acA—Yes, |

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