Indianapolis Times, Indianapolis, Marion County, 15 January 1937 — Page 15
- was found dead at his home at 5:30
: Civil War Veteran Fought in
FRIDAY, JAN. 15, 1937
JAMES F.BIRD
Deaths Among Indiana
Residents
IS DEAD AT 91; RITES ARE SET
13 Battles; Saw Lee’s Surrender.
JAMES F. BIRD, New Augusta, a Civil War veteran, who died yesterday in a nursing home at 1427] N. Delaware St., is to ‘be buried inj Crown Hill Cemetery following services at 2 p. m. tomorrow in the Wald Funeral Home. He was 91. Mr. Bird was born in Shelby County, Kentucky, and served with the Union Army during the Civil] War. He fought in 13 battles and was present at th= surrender of Gen. Robert E. Lee. He was a member of the Christian Church, Robert H. Chapman|t Camp 10, G. A. R., Daughters of the Civil War and the Bennett Circle, G.A.R. He is survived by his wife, Mrs. Clara Bird; a son, Frank, Indianapolis; daughter, Mrs. Minnie Lake, Parsons, Kas.; brother, David, Wichita, Kas.; 11 grandchildren, and 11 great-grandchildren.
PATRICK BARTON, 2636 N. Meridian St., prominent in Democratic, business and Catholic circles here,
Pp. m. yesterday. Mr. Barton, who was 69, had been in failing health for more than a year. He formerly was in the grocery and saloon business here. -He was born in County Kerry, Ireland, Jan. 6, 1868, and came to
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He later married Nora Pendergast, aiso a native of County Kerry. Survivors include the wife; six daughters, Anna, teacher in No. 10|s school, Mary, nurse at St. Vincent’s Hospital, Nora, assistant superintendent of nurses at St. Vincent's
Veronica, Butler University student; four sons, John, , State police detective; James, Student at S. Mein-
Mrs. Mar, ma amd
vivor:
Survivors* Mrs. Letha Bergen; Mary Gustin
vivors: daughters.
vivors: Sons. daughters, Tompson and Mrs. Bffie Searing.
vivors: James: daughters, Mrs. George Hittle and Eileen:
Mary; parents. Mr.
Son, and
Survivors: Alonzo, Albert, ers. Wade.
Survivors: William; sister, Mrs.
Husband, Dwigns 5 and Hubert: daughter, Inez James.
Joseph: ig ri hter, Mary:
Viola; Daughters: Aline Schamihorn and Mrs.
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liam Meace: the United States at the age of 19.}2
Brother,
ters, ton, Bishop.
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ANDERSON—MTrs. Elizabeth Fletcher, 77. Survivors: Husband, Samuel; daughters, E. Kimberlin, Mrs. "Alice Thumrs. Margaret Jones. Dorothy Julia Thomas, 17. Mother, Mrs. Flossie Thomas ANDERSONVILLE—Henry Cooksey. 89. Wife, son, Oliver. Saaghter. stepdaughter, Mrs.
Mrs. Sur-
Sur-
ANGOLA—William E. Iddings, 71. irs
Wife, sister, brother and Sur-
BRAZIL—Ernest O. Proctor, 60.
vivors: Wife, Amy: sons, James, Mack and Ernest; daughter, Mrs. Roy Fleisher.
76. _Surand Elzie; Frances
Mrs. Mary Frances Lawson, , Elmer, John Mrs. Ellen Poff, Mrs.
BROOKVILLE—John W. Stirn, 64. Sur-
Yiyors Sons, Earl, Roy and Arnold; daughers, Wood, brothers, William, Lewis. Henry and Fred;
Mrs. Florence Smalley, Mrs. Nora Misses Esther and Thelma Stirn; Sunman and Mrs.
isters, Mrs. Martha
Anna Schuneman.
CALUMET—Edmund C. Nichter, 48, SurWife, Eleanor: sons, Maurice and
sister, Rose Nichter. Anthony Sikora, 39. Survivors: daughter. Mildred: son, Richard: d Mrs. John Sikora; sis-
Wife.
an er. Victoria. COLFAX—P. M. Garland, 87. Survivors: Note: daughters, Mrs. E. B. Taylor Mrs. N. H. Lipp. COLUMBUS—Mrs. Lurina Wade, Jusband, Cleveland; sons. Bygone and David: daughSmith and Margaret
Mrs. Harol
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FL ENARY oy Haldean LeFevre, 46. Wife, Madge; sons, Ned and brothers, Jain and Charles; Henry Bae 55. Survie
Mrs. Ehizaheih James. Donald,
Ludwig. Survivors: Son,
sisters, Mrs. D Patrick Wife,
Survivor Mrs.
Kerby ie Jean Jordan. S¥ANSYILLE ~ Msgr. Francis William Perrett, 82. survivors: son, Jack
am Kingsbury, 72. Mrs. Mary Medlicott, Mrs. Agnes Billings, Mrs. Mabel Jones; Russell and Jack
aude E. Tinker, 65.
67. Survivors: Wife, hters, Mrs. Willis Whitledge Wiltshire: sons, Harold and
Mrs. Violet Ballou, 29. and, Carl; nts, Mr. . Mrs. nd Mrs. Joseph Robinson.
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FRANKLIN—A. J. Engler, 78. David.
Ryves
will uth Morell, Slarence, Revel,
Survivor:
nd Mrs. Je
Walter.
Survivors: Husand Mrs. WilCharles Harp
Survivor:
FT. . WAYNE—Charles Richardson, 69. urvivors: Wife, Alura; son. Harry. daughMrs. John Barbier, Mrs. Carl Gar- . Rose Weeks and Mrs. Harid Frank -Ensch, 31. Survivors: Parents, and Mrs. Adam Ensch: sister, arl Ensch: Hy Clarence. ied ‘Watkins, IS.
Caroline Berning. 78. Survivors:
Husband, Henry; son, Henry J.: daughters, rs. Heuer;
. Ernest brother. William Korte.
Mrs. Margaret Daley, Survivors:
+ | John;
Miss | J.
Ella Snyder.
Walter Boswell; Daughter,
sister, Mrs. Basil Saskida, 61. Survivor: Mrs. John Ssawiski. Frank C. Forster, 41. ® 2 »
J dd — Mrs. Martha Jane Brown, 178, Survivors: Brother, Albert Cline; stepson, Roy Brown: stepdaughter. Mrs. Millard Shompsg Annie Maria Ston Survivors: Mother, Mrs. Sarah eh PL Harry Stone. GREENFIELD—William Edwards bins, 65. Survivors: Wife, Gania, ers, Elmer and Charles Robbins. HAMMOND—Rudolph Kamocsar, 48. Mrs. Florence Wiéning, 36. Survivors: Husband, Walter; son, ugene; mother, Mrs. Charles Martin; sisters, Mrs. William Konow, Mrs. H. Kalb, Mrs. A. Phelps, Caroline and Arlene Martin; brothers, Charles, Paul and Harold. HUNTERTOWN-—MTrs. Myrtle Jetmore, 42. Suryivors: Husband, Jasper; son Henry; daughter, Beulah and an adopted daug. fer, Mrs. Ruth Shoda. HUNTINGTON—Mrs. Marion Buckles, 78. Survivors: Daughters, Mrs. T. D. Feigel and Mrs. Walter Schick. JEFFERSONVILLE—Henry McElroy, 13. Survivors: Sons, es and John; daughters, Mrs. Lee Crud Cora and Elizabeth; brothers, Thomas, Charles and Houston: sisters, Cora and Lou Mrs. Anna Hutsell, ‘80. band, Charles: LA PORTE—Mrs. Catherine Williamson Short Hockney, 75. Survivors: Husband, brothers, Samuel, Isaac and John Williamson. LAWRENCEVILLE MIS Husband
Lewis, 30. Survivor: LEBANON—Mrs. Sarah A. Mangus, 65. Survivors: Husband, George; daughter, Mrs. Joe Miller; sons, Lloyd Tomlinson, Eyerers, Oren and Howard Mangus. Eliza Long, 94. Survivors: Georse and Willian; 3jsten, Mrs. Meyer; brother, W. en. LOGA SPORT Mrs. Senn Fettig, Soa Husband, Joseph; Mrs. Alice Smith; ‘brother, Martin Altmeyer. James M. Johnson, 69, Survivors: Wife, Emma; sons, Robert and’ Howard; daughters, Alda and Mrs. Helen L. Harnish; brother. Howard; sister, Mrs. Zanna
Keever. Walter Sievers, 69. Survivors: Wife, Dora; daughters, Mrs. Mabel Briggs and Mrs. ‘Thresa Army; son, Marion, The Rev. Michael J. ord, 65 Survivors: Brother, Charles; sister, Mrs. Margaret Timmons, ’ 2” ”
MARKLEVILLE—Manila Quentin Eubank, 77. Survivors: Brother, An; sisters, Leslie 5. der and Mrs. Nan Koose: son, Claud B nk. Mrs. Ellen hank, 89. Claud Eubank. MICHIGAN = CITY—John Cassidy, 73. Survivors: Wife, Carrie; daughters, Mrs. Conde, Mrs. Leo La Forge, Mrs. Edward Kendall, Mary and Frances; sons, Hugh, William, Edward and Paul; brother, ose rik Maria C. Hays, 59. Survivors: Sons, Benjamin, Clarence and Paul; daughters, Mrs. Minnie Wilson and Ethel: Mrs. Emma Linegar and Mrs. Susan May.
MILTON—Lindley Hussey, 86. Survivors: Daughters, Mrs. John DuGranrut, Mrs. I. L. Harmeier and Miss Louie Hussey; sons, William, Charles and Robert; sister, Mrs. brother, Elwood Hussey. MUNCIE—Mrs. Dora Edna Hiatt. vivors: Husband, Chester; sons,, Elm Ralph and William Myers and Allen Hiatt:
Robbroth-
Survivor: Hus-
Raymond
Sons, AH
58. daughter,
Survivor: Son,
Jennie Moore;
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sisters, |
PERU—Charles J. Hodson, 50. Survivors: Wife, Dora; sons, Darrell and Laurel; daughter, Ruby; brothers, Dr. C. P. Ben, Sherman and R. O.: sisters, Mrs. Roy Melton and Mrs. Lena Gates. James Reeser, 73. Survivors: Sisters, Mrs. Lee Shirling and Mrs. Della DuBois: brother, Charles PORTER—Joseph Brown, 77. Survivors: Brother, James; sisters, Anna, Mrs. Niles Highwood, Mrs, Carrie Soper and Mrs. Jane Brewer: daughters, Mrs. Josie Ragle and Ethel Brown. Charles Clifford. 40. Survivors: Sister
Mrs. Lois Schlueter; brothers, Frank and Claude.
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ROCHESTER—John Herbick, 74. vivors: © Wife, Elizabeth; daughter, Herman Steininger. RUSHVILLE—Mrs. Hester Ellen Harton, 1. Survivors: Hishand, O. M.; sister, Mrs. Williard H. Am SHIRLEY —Mrs. ihe Norman, 177. SOUTH BEND—Mrs. Elizabeth Rarrack, 75. Survivors: Daughters, Mrs. Raymond Scheuer, Mrs. J. R. Beyrer and Mrs. William A. Butler: taster, Mrs. Lena Kelsey; brother, John § Mrs. John K° Hinge, 83. Luther Bonn 50. Survivors: Corinne, ant daughter and brothers and sisters rs argaret rN "Brad , 71. Survivors: Son, Adlie; daughter, Yevina. SPEARSVILLE—James Dallas, 70 vivors: Wife, Agnes: Sons, a : ter. Floyd and Mauric Bienes. SULLIVAN—Joh vivor: Wife, Ruth. Ww. Eaton, : TAYLORSVILLE—Mrs. Mamie Fiddler, a Survivors: Son, Edwin: brothers, WilPo ane Zrede c reen; sister, Mrs. THORNTOWN—Mrs, ai
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SurMrs.
Wife, several
SurChes-
86. Sur-
Sarah Hardy, 84. Daughters. Mrs. Lillie Waggonrs. Lena Veach; sons. Thomas Andrew Hardy; brother, Allen
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VINCENNES — filln A. McAndrew, Survivor: Niece, Mrs. Roy Leonard. Fortune LeRoy, 70. WARREN—John A, Doversber 7 Survivors: Daughters, Mrs. Ei 2 and Mrs. Ruth Smyth; sons, Ezra and Paul; er Mrs. Frona Wisemiller. WABASH—Ross Lefforge, 68. Survivors: sa Mrs. T. A, Frantz; brother, Dr. Carl Lef forge. WATERLOO—MTrs. Survi . daug M
66.
ec Mrs. Her ella Folios, half-sisters, Mrs. SWranton and Mrs. Jennie Warner.
WOLCOTT—Daniel Farney, 84. Survivors: Sons, Manson. Eli and Aaron; daughter, Mrs. Phoebe Bahr; three sisters, Martha Zehr, Mrs. Louise Stoller and Mrs, Yolen Steiner; brothers, Aaron and Solo-
INSURANCE OFFICE STAFF ANNOUNCED
George H. Newbauer, Hartford City banker and insurance man, is to become State Insurance Commissioner Feb. 1 succeeding Harry Mec-
"THE INDIANAPOLIS TIVES
HOUSING DRIVE TO OPEN HERE
Home Show, Inc., Will Give Dinner to Start Campaign.
A Nation-wide campaign for better housing is to open here Monday night with a dinner in the Indianapolis Athletic Club to be given by the Indianapolis Home Show, nc. Twelve major cities are included in the plans for a 90-day education-
al campaign, indorséd by the Manu-.
facturers’ Housing Promotion Council. Sound construction methods are to be stressed throughout the campaign. The Indianapolis Home Show in the Manufacturers’ Building at the State Falr Grounds, is to be held April 15 to 26, according to J. Frank Cantwell, managing director for the show. Mayor Kern, Home Show directors, affiliated business presidents, civic groups and Federal Housing representatives are to attend the dinner. J. Ralph Fenstermaker, Home Show president, is to be master of ceremonies and will introduce Indianapolis architects who are to design the 1937 model home.
MILK PRICE PETITION TO BE HEARD FEB. 10
Hearing on a petition of the InAoteaion Milk Producers’ Association, Inc., for an increase in the price of milk has been set for Feb. 10 by the State Milk Control Board. The petition asked that the base price of Class 1 milk be increased from $2.54 to $2.65 hundredweight, and that Class 2b be raised to conform with the present Class 2a price. The association pointed out that higher costs of production necessitated the increases.
Funeral services (re to be held at 3 p. m. tomorrow in the Shirley Brothers Funeral E ime for Elmer Schad, 1421 E. Ver nont St, who died at Methodist I )spital yesterday following an c¢ jeration. Mr. Schad, who was 43, was treasurer of the Stafford Eng ving Co.
‘Y’ SCHOOL 10 OPEN COURSE IN AVIATION
Ground school cla: ies in aviation are to open Monday in the Y. M. C. A. trade schools. The classes are to meet each Mond: y, Wednesday and Friday from 7:3! | to 9:30 p. m. for 20 weeks. The course is desi: hed for those who plan to take liepartment of Commerce examinati ns for pilot’s or mechanic’s licenses and for those who desire greater f: miliarity with aviation principles, o ficials said.
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daughter, Pearl Hiatf; sisters, Mrs. Nora. Clain, Governor Townsend an-
nounced today. Mr. Newbauer announced that John D. Cramer, Lafayette, would continue as chief deputy commissioner. The commissioner’s secretary is to be Miss Katherine Maddox, Hartford City.
-rad Academy, Tom and Patrick. = - LA Husband. Thomas: son, James: daughters, | g Funeral services have not been |Mrs. J. I. Farrell. Mrs, L. C. Burry. Mrs. | SHIfer Zid Mrs Kirby Duncan. = Bohs. completed, but, probably. will be EF rowaven, Agnes Daley and Mrs. J. Melvin, Norm an, and Leroy: Sisters, Mrs. S m an rs enn arheld Tuesday at SS. Peter and Paul |" pr, wAYNE—Harvey Henschen, 22, Sur- | rell: brothers, James, Grover and *Russell Cathedral, of which was a member. Eley.
vivors: Parents, Mr. and Mrs. Henry WILLIAM HENRY LOHSS, 1501 NEWCASTLE—Walter S. Winship,. €0.
Survivors: Son, Richard: sisters, Mrs. Les=ter Brooks and Mrs. Heriy Downey. Ambrose R. Sliga 76, Survivors: Daughter, Marguerite; ATA Nellie Sligar;
Be John and Jesse Sligar. \ is€i Wife, Ocea: RTH SALEM—Mrs, Fliza Ann Long, | 1N€ New icommissioner is at presie, 94 i
2 ony : Sons. W. J. and George: | ent . director of the state packers Wife. Zlster, rs. Ida Meyer: brother, Taylor and stock yards division.
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are two sons, Dr. Wendell White, Los Angeles, and D. Roy White, Huntington Beach, Cal. MISS ELIZABETH M. BRENNAN, 1210 E. New York St., is to be buried in Holy Cross Cemetery following services at 9 a. m. Monday in the Holy Cross Catholic Church. Miss Brennan, who was 67 was a life resident of Indianapolis. She attended the Catholic Woman's College, Reading, O., and was a member of the Holy Cross Catholic Church and its Altar Society, the Living Rosary Society of St. John’s Catholic Church and the Third Order of St. Francis. Survivors are a brother, Richard, and sister, Miss Margaret Brennan, both of Indianapolis.
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Hepschan: Jig. Rajon. Survivors: Son. avi - rors: Union St.. former South Side merch- ee ern, Junker, Frank af ant and lifelong resident of Indian- ters, Mrs. M. EB rady. Mrs. Dora Quinte apolis who died yesterday at Methi Hospital, is to be buried in . Wem brother Concordia Cemetery tomorrow fol- Ells E, Miller : 25. > Sufuivors: Wife, =a “71 Vv avi lowing funeral services at 2 p. m. RE "Arifer: brothers. Riley: Perry ohn 2nd : sisters. Mrs. Bertha Lightfoot a Mr. Lohss was born in Indianap- . Elsie Powers. 7 olis and attended the/public schools. | Husband. Henry: son. Hen i: Jr.: daughHe was married to Miss Flora Rug- fers Mis, Pred Sommedeln $Y enstein of Indianapolis Aug. 12, Is. Jlarsaret Daley, a, Survie: 1908. He was a member of St. Mrs, a I. Farrell, Mrs. I C. Burry. Mrs. Paul's Evangelical Church. Mr. F. J Sullivan, Agnes Daley and Mrs. J. Lohss was in business with his|B FRANKTON—James Keaster, 90. : I. Snyder, 50. Survivors: Survivors are the widow; his | moines Mrs, Ells Huffman-Snyder: wife. mother, Mrs. Herman Lohss; two Mrs. Clara Clore-Snyder; daughter, Mrs. sons, Paul H. Lohss and Walter G. Bohss, all of Indianapolis; four brothers, John Lohss, Greentown; Edward Lohss and Gustav Lohss, Indianapolis, and Louis Lohss; two Francisco, and Mrs. Frieda Kosfeld, Minneapolis. FRED J. KUENZLER, 1417 Kennington St., who was injured fatally when struck by an automobile Wednesday night, is to be buried in St. Joseph Cemetery tomorrow folin the E. E. Gross Funeral Home. He was 175. Mr. Kuenzler was born in Augsburg, Germany. He came to the United States in 1885 and lived in New York until 1895 when he came to Indianapolis. Society, the Ben Hur Life Association and the Alamania Society. He was a brewer for the Lieber Brewing Corp. for 20 years. Survivors are the wife, Mrs. Francis Kuenzler; a daughter, Mrs. Kate Moss, both of Indianapolis; a brothsister, Miss Katherine Kuenzler, both of Germany. MRS. SARAH A. MANGUS, who died of pneumonia yesterday at the home of her son, Oren L. Mangus, city detective sergeant, 1841 River- | side Dr., is to be buried in Boone in the Old Union Church at 2 o'clock. She recently had returned home | from California after a visit with | her daughter, Mrs. Myrtle Tomlinson, Yuba City. She was 65. ! Other survivors are the husband, | Everett of Indianapolis, and a daughter, Mrs. Ruth Miller, New Ross. | MRS. MARGARET KILE, 2700 | Arlington Ave., who died of pneu\monia. Wednesday in Robert Long [Elospial, was to be buried in Hurri-
June Smith. : Survivors: in the home. He was 50. Mre. Caroline Berning, Survivors: Dawson. brother, Gustav Lohss, until 1930. sisters, Mrs. Paul Wampner, San . lowing funeral services at 2 p. m. He was a member of the Bavaria er, John Kasper Kuenzler, and a County tomorrow following services | George; two sons, - Howard and cane Cemetery near' Franklin fol-
Avoid so far as possible the places where germs are most likely to be spread; overcrowded cars and public meeting places; stuffy, poorly ventilated rooms.
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|today in the Harry -W. Moore funeral home. | Mrs. Kile, a resident of Indianlapolis for 30 years, was 53. She was lborn in Whiteland and was a mem‘ber of the Wallace Street Presbyterian Church-and Ben-Hur lodge ere. | Surviors include the husband, George; grandson, Gene Slater, Indianapolis, and a sister, Mrs. Emma eVore of Franklin. MRS. BELL E HUDELSON HITE, widow of the Rev. Levi White, a former pastor of the Conregational Church here, died ednesday in the home of her aughter, Mrs. D. Leigh Colvin, | ew York, according to word reeived here by friends. She was 80. Funeral services are to be held at :30 p. m. tomorrow in the McMullan Funeral Home in Westfield. Psa is to be there also. P Survivors besides the daughter
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beware of all coughers and sneezers; breathe through the nose, get fresh air but avoid drafts or chilling.
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Above all, avoid catching colds. They lower your resistance. At the first sign of any cold, take Bayer Aspirin and remain indoors if possible until all symptoms of your cold are gone. Gargle with Bayer Aspirin dissolved in water at the first touch of sore throat due to cold as. i this will relieve the soreness and soothe the irritation.
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