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TUESDAY. OCT 2. !*U I HE LABOR PARTNER LABOR wants to be more than silent partner to industry and government In the recovery setup. At the American Federation of Labor convention in San Francisco, the executive council calls the country bade to the original conception of the New Deal as Government. Capital and Labor. Inc. To make this hrm effective lor recovery and reform, the council asks the NRA be made permanent, expanded to include service and farm workers, and equipped with independent enforcing machinery. It wants the codes reopened by petition of labor as well as employers to insure re-employment and higher real wages; honest enforcement of section 7-A: an actual voice for workers in compliance and administration. “The worker must no longer be a mere part of the industrial equipment of the country,” says the council, "but an active and effective participant in the major economic developments." Without some changes, NRA may become an instrument for exploitation instead ol social reconstruction. But if it wants NRA to determine hours for industrial industries, it is Inconsistent m demanding a blanket thirtyhour week bill. The council has well-merited praise for 1 the new National Labor Relations Board and most of the special labor boards. Since President Green accepted the automobile settlement the council's strictures of the automobile labor board seem unfair. The council is sound In supporting relief, social security, adequate 1 public works and protection of free education, j By opposing inflation and insisting on a balanced budget, it displays economic poise. The federation this year Speaks with an I authority won by new strength of members ! and leadership. Within the federation, certain weaknesses persist. There are too many unnecessary strikes, too many jurisdictional disputes, and racketeering in certain local unions. Many of its friends want the federation to centralize its powers and exercise disciplinary functions. Unfortunately, the A. F. of L as a whole ! often is Judged by the sins of its minority, j For selfish reasons. If no other. It should clean house. i BASEBALL IS KING PRETENDERS to the throne may rise to brief glory* and pass on, but baseball re- j jnams king of American sports, truly the j national game, first in the affections and Interest of the American people. From March to October the diamond sport reigns supreme. And even through the long cold winter, its fans avidly seek every morsel of news concerning their ball-tossing heroes. By millions they jam into major and minor league and semi-pro parks during the summer, with the grand climax coming in the world series. Interest in baseball may be waning, but the figures don't show it. The season just closed was one of record profit in many cities. Millions play golf, but even the greatest of golf matches draw galleries that are dwarfed by the throngs which pack even minor league stands. One of the most torridly fought tennis tourneys in recent years drew a gate recently that would be a fair week-day crowd at mo6t major league oaseball parks. The America’s cup race, magnificent event though it was. stirred comparatively little Interest among the rank and file of sporting lans. Prize fight and .wrestling fans are legion, but no one seriously considers either pastime a rival of baseball as an attraction. Basketball has its devotees, but they are far in the minority, taking basketball far and wide over the nation. Football, it is true, is a magnet for mammoth throngs—but for only eight or ten Saturdays in the year, while a winning baseball team pulls fans past the tumstitles for 154 games a season. America is singularly blessed with clean sports, ail of which have their place in the scheme of things. But there is only one national sport, without even a close .rival, whether played in a magnificent major league plant or on a sandlot back of the warehouse—and that's baseball. If there be doubters,*let them watch the crowds before world senes scoreboards and be convinced. THE BIG BAD WOLF THE big bad wolf ol federal regulation stalked out upon the floors of the nations stock exchanges yesterday, but he failed . to fnghten either the bulls or the bears. This seemed a trifle strange in view of ail of the terrifying stones about the big bad wolf, and In view of the recent tendency of bulls and bears to fnghten easily. This month five years ago the bulls and bears were at each other's throats, both lusting for the blood of the lambs. By the end of October. 1929. the bulls had lost much of the TAt accumulated in the boom period and had ‘retreated in panic before the advance of the hungry bears. Then the American people began learning about what goes on behind the Stock ticker. “ How well they learned remains to be seen. But at least they learned enough to force ; Congress to create the securities and exchange commission aa a policeman of the market plaeaa Certain practices by which insiders manipulated the markets for their own advantage now are forbidden. Margin restrictions, lenient but standard and applicable Jo ail without : discrimination, will become effective two weeks henca. The SEC has yet to work out many ocher important regulations, including rule* j

to control shortselling and the activities of floor specialists. The future orderliness of the markets will depend in part upon how wisely the SEC drafts its rules and how honestly it enforces them. But pnees will continue to rise and falL Men still will try to Ret rich quick. No law new no body of men haa the omniscience to keep a fool and his money from parting. PROTECT THE CHILD THE fiendish murder of little Lillian Gallaher in Detroit has taught that city a lesson that should stand out in flaming letters before officials of every other city in the country. It L? the lesson that children sent forth from door to door to solicit funds or to sell chances or merchandise ever are in danger of failing into the hands of degenerates. It was on such an errand that Lillian Gallaher went to her death. A few minutes after leaving home to sell punchboard tickets for a school benefit, she was seized by the fiend who took her life, stuffed her body into a trunk, and then fled. Detroit fully realizes the menace at last, and Police Commissioner H. A. Pickert has called for an ordinance to put an end to such activities of children. Appalling as the cost is, the death of Lillian Gallaher will not have been in vain if it can be the means of saving the lives of other children exposed to like peril. DON’T PITY THE FARMER IT Is a roseate vision that is spread before the American farmer. Ease and prosperity will be this portion. No more will he know back-breaking toil and hardships and mortgages. So say those who look askance at the policy of paying the farmer for not raising crops or livestock or something else, instead of making him toil from dawn to dusk, with the hot breath of the wolf forever scorching the back of his roughened neck. But it seems a little hasty to consign the farmer to such a fate. Years of hard training hardly will be forgotten, merely because a little manna has come from Washington. He has become inured to labor. There still will be the cows to milk, the steers to feed, the horses to be curried, the tractor to be tinkered with, the wood to chop, the postholes to be dug, the chickens to be pampered, the hay to cut, the garden to weed—and then it’ll be bedtime. No, we need not lie awake nights worrying about the awful fate that is about to befall the farmer. If he ever finds any leisure time, hell know how* to take care of it, without sitting around brooding about how easy life has become. RADICAL THEORIES IS the United States going radical? Is this country being ushered into Socialism through the back door? Every political discussion you hear these days hinges around those questions. But nobody knows the answer. And one of the reasons is that people forget to ask first, What is radical? What is Socialism? That depends. Let's dig into the dusty files of the library of congress and retrieve a forgotten document. It is the Socialist party platform for 1912. The Socialist party then was radicalism par excellence. Socialists were then what “Reds” are oday. The Socialist platform of that pre-war campaign of twenty-two years ago starts out with the familiar Socialist thesis that there must be war between the classes, and that Socialism must replace the present capitalist economic system in toto. But, in the meantime, here are some of the demands proposed pending the day; Public ownership of railroads, telegraph and telephone lines, wireless telegraph (sic), express and all transport lines, grain elevators, stockyards and distributing agencies, mines, quarries, oil wells, forests, and water power. Conservation of natural resources; reclamation; development of water power projects. How much of that is coming true today, every day's newspaper will tell you. Collective ownership and democratic management of the banking and currency system was demanded. Government relief of the unemployed “by the extension of all useful public works” was proposed. In industry, a shortened work day with a day and a half of rest each week for every workman (the ten-hour day, or at best the eight, was standard in 1912). No child labor under 16 years of age. Minimum wage scales. Unemployment, old age, accident and disease insurance at employers’ expense. The political demands were even more interesting. They included a graduated income tax. increase in the corporation tax and inheritance taxes. Equal suffrage for women. Collective ownership of patents. Initiative, referendum, and recall, and proportional representation. Abolition of the senate (this was just before direct election of senators) and no more presidential veto. Abolition of the “usurped” power of the supreme court to declare laws unconstitutional. Easier amendments of the Constitution. Creation of a department of labor (one of Wilson's first acts on being elected). A department of education. Curbing of the injunction power, and calling of a convention to revise the Constitution. Those were the important planks of the most radical platform presented to the people in 1912. You may judge how radical it sounds today, and how far we have come along the road it points out. THE FORGOTTEN CHILD T TNTIL now the New Deal has held no card for the child worker on the big industrial farms. Thanks to the Jones-Costigan law and the agricultural adjustment administration, a beginning is being made in facing this neglected social problem out in the sugar beet fields. In Michigan and Colorado hearings are under way on proposals of the AAA that contracts between the beet sugar interests and the government prohibit labor for all workers under 14 years of age and that the labor of children under 16 be regulated. The new law gives the government power to impose wages and welfare conditions for children in its contracts with the growers. If the proposed protection for child workers u. achieved. Representatives Jones of Texas and Senator Costigan of Colorado will share with Secretary of Agriculture Wallace credit for the reform.

Liberal Viewpoint BY DR. HARRY ELMER BARNES

THE close of the eighteenth century was marked by a great revolution which brought autocracy to an end in France and prepared the way for the downfall of autocracy or feudalism in many other countries of Europe. Today, there are many who predict that we are on the eve of another revolution period which will shatter the system of capitalism and nationalism. Professor William L. Langer of Harvard university is editing a series of twenty volumes, presenting vividly the evolution of modem society from the close of th* middle ages to the growing spirit of revolt in our own day. l The first two volumes to •>€ published, dealing with the French revolution and the succeeding reaction now are before us. Professor Brinton gives us an excellent review of the French revolution which overthrew for the time being the old order in France. (“A Decade of Revolution.” By Crane Brinton. Harper. $3.75.) It embodies the latest scholarship and the story is told in a clear and lucid fashion. Professor Artz gives an equally excellent account of the swing-backs t 6 reaction after 1815. (“Reaction and Revolution.” By Frederick B. Artz. Harper. $3.75.) His volume will provide material for reflection on the part of our presentday revolutionists if they hope to avoid the disastrous backwash which has usually followed on the heels of past revolutions. a a a MR. LEWIS COREY has written a thorough account of the weaknesses of contemporary American capitalistic society, predicting the collapse and anticipating revolution. (The Decline of American Capitalism. By Lewis Corey. Covici-Friede; $4.) ' It is comparable, in a general way, to the literature of criticism which preceded the French revolution, but none of this eighteenth century critical literature possessed any of the elaborate documentation to be found in Mr. Corey’s volume. It is a challenge to American bourbons and New Dealers alike, which can not be dismissed lightly. The Marxian note which runs through it will lessen its value and convincingness in the opinion of certain readers. But this is certainly no ground for refusing to face the vast mass of relevant and disconcerting facts which Mr. Corey has gathered with care and put together in cogent fashion. ‘The reaction to the situation, which Mr. Corey so thoroughly describes in his treatment of the crisis of contemporary capitalism, will take one of three possible forms: (1) Blind reaction refusing to reckon with the facts or with experience; (2) bold experimentation to better conditions without entirely relinquishing capitalism; (3) thorough-going communistic revolution ending all vestiges of capitalism. a a a MR. ROBEY S book is a splendid example of blind reaction, advocating, 'believe it or not, a return to the principles of Harding, Coolidge and Hoover. (Roosevelt Versus Recovery. By Ralph Robey. Harper. $2.) The old argument about deflation, a balanced budget and the like are trotted forth, but in a very spritely fashion. The advocates of social credit furnish a good example eff those who would try to save the day by grave modifications of capitalism instead of completely abandoning it. Mr. Holter has written a clear introduction to the social credit scheme, a proposal which can not be ignored by the student of contemporary economics. (The ABC of Social Credit. By E. S. Holter. Coward-McCann. sl.) Communism represents the effort to make a clean sweep of everything which savors of capitalism. We ordinarily look upon Communism as having its only important center of strength in Russia, but General Yakhontoff tells us of the enormous growth of Communism in China, the creation of a Communist government of 80.000,000 Chinese set up in the heart of Russia, a Chinese Communist party second only to the Communist party in Russia, and the development of a Chinese Communist army which has defied the efforts of nationalist generals to crush it. Here is an account of development which may hold within it the most momentous consequences for the west as well as ior the far east. (The Chinese Soviets. By Victor A. Yakhontoff. Coward-rMcCann. $2.75.)

Capital Capers BY GEORGE ABELL

THE international golf tournament held the other afternoon at the Chevy Chase Club between American and English women golfers was literally “all wet.” It started magnificently under a pale blue sky flecked with white clouds. Then the white clouds grew black. A breeze sprang up. The sun vanished and a few drops of rain spattered on the links. The large and fashionable gallery which tramped about the greens looked anxious. Massive, chubby-faced Sid Ronald Lindsay, the British ambassador* who had heroically puffed after his countrywomen for more than a mile, turned up his coat collar. “Here it comes!” said someone. Down it came—a cloudburst that gushed from heaven like a cataract. The crowd scattered and ran. His Britannic majesty’s ambassador in the lead, plodding over the soggy field. Women golfers, caddies, diplomats and officials splashed merrily after him. When Sir Ronald panted into the sheltered colonial portico-of the club, he looked as if he had been swimming. His well-tailored tan suit resembled an Annette Kellerman. Water trickled from the brim of his straw hat (“Now I see why they call them boaters in England,” grinned a friend), oozed from the soles of his oxfords, dripped from his curling mustachios. “Ha . . . just a bit of a squall!” he remarked cheerily as he shook himself like a great St. Bernard. Drenched women golfers glanced at his excellency somewhat sulkily as he lit a cigaret with supreme contentment and prepared to return to his embassy for a pot of tea. a a a ENIAL Representative Ross Collins of MisT sissippi, defeated by Mr. Bilbo for a seat in the United States senate, has changed neither his political philosophy nor his ideas about the United States army. Jaunty Mr. Collins breezed into Washington the other day as unperturbed as a vice-president on a fishing trip. Asa member of the military affairs committee of the house, he used to wrangle with army chiefs about his plan for greater mechanization of United States forces. His idea was that there should be more niachines, fewer horses. Yesterday he revealed that his slogan still remains: “Less horses for aviators.” One of the first things Mr. Collins, did on arrival was to amble over to the library of congress and proudly gaze upon the famed Gutenberg Bible which was purchased through his efforts. “We wish you were back with us,” exclaimed friends who talked with him. “Oh, I'll be in town occasionally,” drawled Collins, with his amicable smile. man WHO said that Pat Hurley, former secretary of war, is a Virginian? Pat made it quite clear that, despite his penchant for fox hunting, Warrenton social activities and an estate near Leesburg, he does not regard himself as a Virginia squire. “I was born in Oklahoma,” he stated, “and Oklahoma will always be my state. I'm going back there soon to campaign for the Republican ticket.” The golden glint is still in Pat’s mustache. He preserves his debonair manner. His doublebreasted blue suits are as immaculate as of yore. But one sees him seldom at any Washington gathering. When he isn’t leading the life of a country gentleman near Leesberg, he's campaigning in Tulsa. Bets are on as to what will finish first —the Bolnia-Paraguay war or NR A reorganization. But we won't make bets our grandchildren might have to collect. t L

THE INDIANAPOLIS TIMES

(Times readers are invtted to express their views in these columns. Make your letters short, so all can have a chance. Limit them to 250 words or less.) a a a BELIEVES PLACE OF WIFE IS IN HOME Gy J. P. B. In The Times of Sept. 29. A reader writes, “In the name of everything that is respectable why pick on the married woman.” Eliminating the “respectable” part of it, if the woman in question hasn’t plain, common, ordinary horse sense enough to know why a married woman should not work perhaps I can enlighten her. In the first place nature took care of the fact that the function of a married woman is to bear and rear children and take care of her home and her family. If any married woman does just that and does it properly she will have all of the employment she possibly can take care of. In the second place, any married man who would let his wife work can’t entertain very much respect for either himself or her and it isn't long before the working wife loses respect for him. In the third place the only reason that women are employed at all is because they will work for less than it takes to hire a man, and every time a married woman takes a job she is cheating her husband out of a chance to get a raise in pay. In the fourth place, if every married woman employed today were forced to confine her employment to keeping her youngsters off the streets and to taking proper care of her home it would serve to lessen the juvenile court cases of both boys and girls and increase the value of life as a whole. This procedure also would serve to lessen the unemployment problem. a a a ANOTHER VIEW OF UTILITIES* TAXES * By S. E. Test. In the Sept. 26 issue of The Times, “A Consumer” points out quite correctly that the money paid as taxes by the local electric light and power company comes from its customers. The money paid as taxes by every other manufacturer in Indianapolis also comes from the consumers who use its products. Likewise the money paid as taxes by every lawyer, doctor or other person rendering: service comes from those who receive the benefits of the service. Consequently, in this matter “A Consumer’’ is correct, but trivial. “A Consumer” might well have pointed out the enormous and rapidly increasing burden of taxes, particularly those that are indirect, which have been imposed by governmental agencies. On can not buy a gallon of gasoline or a package of cigarets or anything else without paving from one to twenty taxes levied by federal, state and local governments. Within a very few years the portion of the total income of the people of the United States that has been swallowed up in taxes has increased from 10 to 25 per cent. At present, 25 per cent of all the country earns goes into the control of politicians and is expended by them. The taxess they are collecting from the motor car and gasoline industries alone exceed ail the money paid for electricity for lighting all the homes, stores, shops

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THE WHITE FLAG OF VICTORY

Support Asked for

By Mrs. B. B. McDonald. At the last meeting of the North Side Federation of Clubs three representatives of the park board, A. C. Sallee, J. E. Perry and Andrew Miller, upon invitation of the club, appeared before the organization and explained the project planned by the park department, to dredge Fall creek and remove the sandbars, where possible. The department anticipates beginning the project in the near future. In the course of his address, Mr. Sallee explained that some months ago the park board had applied to the federal government to supply certain materials, which had they been giveh, would have permitted the completion of a larger project of not only dredging Fall creek, but widening of the stream and beautifying of the banks and boulevard, thereby making the drive along Fall creek a show place of the city. The request for the federal government to supply materials was not granted and now* the park board proposes to begin a tempo-

and streets in the entire United States. There are not only enormous taxes paid now, but there are huge deficits to be paid in the future. For example, the share of Indianapolis in the deficit of the federal government since July 1 is an amount of money great enough to pay for lighting all the homes in the city for more than six months. “A Consumer” suggests that it is a “half truth” to give the amount of taxes the electric light company pays without pointing out that the money for its taxes ultimately comes from is customers. But his assertion that what a community having a municipally owned and operated plant loses in taxes is made up by lower rates for electricty, is not even a half truth, for it is directly contrary to general experience. There are nearly 2,000 municipal plants in the United States serving communities ranging from villages to large cities. The federal census figures show that the average rates charged by municipal plants are more than 10 per cent higher than those charged by commercial plants. In Indiana there is a corresponding difference in favor of the nonpolitieally controlled plants. According to the federal census report of 1932, the business of the privately controlled companies of the country increased 10.3 per cent between 1927 and 1932, while the business of the politically controlled plants increased only 1 per cent. These figures are significant, and so is the fact that in this five-year interval 396 municipal plants went out of business entirely. a a a CAN’T SEE ROBINSON AS VETERANS’ FRIEND Br Veteran. The more truck I read in your Message -Center about these exservice men who are rallying to the support of Arthur Robinson, the more I become convinced that the brave boys who went overseas returned a bunch of blathering idiots. I hate to do it, but someone must. The boys have lost their balance. Sure, we want the bonus. Sure, we want pensions for the men and widows who deservs them. But

[1 wholly disapprove of what you say and will l defend to the death your right to say it. — Voltaire. J

Fall Creek Project

rary project of removing the sandbars from the creek bed as a flood prevention measure. The removal of the bars also will relieve the stagnation of the stream and attendant odors. Under the proposed temporary project, the park department does not plan to remove the large sandbar near the Delaware street bridge, because such removal might cause the crumbling of the retaining walls, which then would not withstand the strain of high water. Mr. Sallee further explained that the machinery and labor would be supplied by the park department and that the materials necessary for the project might be paid for out of the gasoline tax fund. This temporary project will be executed at no additional cost to the citizens of Indianapolis and will accomplish a much-needed improvement on the north side. It is hoped that every interested citizen will express his approval of this project by means of letters to the park board or through letters in this column.

we who have retained some sanity don’t want to do anything drastic in the face of a critical economic situation, which is facing the government. , / I am afraid that too many veterans have been swayed by the demagogic utterances of men who urge them to forget their patriotism and to work for themselves, for their own pockets. What good will it do a veteran to line his own pocket and see his friend and neighbor starving? Not so many of the veterans are in dire need. The ones who are say little about it. It’s the soldier boy with the job and the home who's ranting and raving. a a a PROPOSES PIG AS G. O. P. EMBLEM Bv William Lemon. I believe the time has arrived when the G. O. P. should substitute a pig in place of the elephant for its emblem, for when it was in power, it hogged the ring. It accuses the Democrats of trying to destroy the Constitution. The average man who is out of a job, ragged, hungry and penniless, cares little about this silly chatter. What he wants Ns a job. The sacred eighteenth amendment which was passed over the late Woodrow Wilson's head by a Republican congress, was destroyed by the Democratic party. The G. O. P. is even dumb enough to censure the most popular man in our country, Franklin D. Roosevelt, a man who is an international figure. Why not confine their activities to local issues, such as the Democrats cleaning up their Stephenson, Jackson, Duvall and Coffin-made debts, even up to paying off the mortgage on an old dilapidated courthouse. It evidently takes the dumb nerve of a “Li’l Arthur” for any of their speakers to appear before a Negro audience after the reign of terror of the Ku-Klux Klan. Still, Republicans do it and appeal to the ghost of Lincoln, when they should appeal to the ghost of a Caesar drunken with power and greed. Those wishing a change had far better turn their local government over to mom third radical group

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than to ever again trust the Republican party, as long as it is controlled by the old Coffin faction, unless they want to once again witness a parade of the “hooded knights.” a a a BUTLER ACCUSED OF PROFITEERING By An Ex-Marine. In The Times of Sept. 29, reference was made to profiteering of Smedley D. Butler, by hobnobbing with the hoi polloi. Asa former service man I wholly agree with ex-private, and further state for the last year Genersi Butler, has milked the ex-service men of approximately SI,OOO a month. National headquarters of the Veterans of Foreign Wars offers the services of General Butler to various units throughout the country. Terms are as follows: National headquarters will bear transportation expenses; local unit must agree to pay $75 a speech plus hotel and other incidental expense. General Butler usually is booked four or five times a week, which nets him a handsome return for his supposedly generous, patriotic interest in the men who served under him. There are at least twelve state departments of the Veterans of Foreign Wars who have refused to cooperate and will not allow or tolerate the biased mud-slinging partisan speeches of the general. a a a ASSERTS KLAN WOMEN GAVE CADLE FLAG By A Timf* Reader. I read Mr. Cadle’s letter in regard to the flag which he received, which he said did not come from the Hoosier Capital Klan No. 12. Well, I happen to know it did come from the klan women of No. 12, because I am a klan woman and helped on that same flag. Yes, it is true that a great many of Mr. Cadle’s choir are klan women and like myself, I don’t think any of them are ashamed to say so. I wonder what became of the nice letter that was sent with the flag or rather given to Mrs. Cadle, which she said she would read and didn’t. Now, I wonder why Mr. Cadle was ashamed to acknowledge one of the most beautiful gifts from the klan outside of the Bible that could be given him. Yes, it is true God doe3 work in many ways to reveal the truth and I am glad that I found out where Mr. Cadle stands.

THE POET

BY EUGENIE RICHART Bewildered by experience, He improvises shnil laments. Words outlast flesh; therefore ha tries To find his comfort in the wise. He locks himself in an ivory tower. Finding no proof against the power Os the earth's potent wizardry. “Oh, what,” he cries, “is love to me?” But no thought can stir him like a kiss. And he protests bitterly, knowing this. He wages forever his futile wars. Concerning himself with the distant stars, Seeking always, desiring much, Anything lovely he can not touch.