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If Seem to He HEYHTO BROUN TWTEW YORK. Aug. 17—1 was in court a week or w so ago while a young man was being tned for his life. The nature of the case mas best described bv an attendant, who said: This is one of those misdemeanr murders." The defendant drove trucks when he could get a Job. which was only occasionally. and he went into a dice game with two friends of approximately his own economic status. They were playing for the highest stakes in the world. Each man came to the point where he was willing to risk all he had. And with $4 50 lying on the cellar floor a dispute arose as to whether the dice had been thrown properly. Somebody picked up a length of lead p:po and when the police arrived they found a dead man to deal with. I heard only part of the

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be reprimanded severely and then turned loose to ao as he pleases. But theie are many cases in which it is quite evident that the defendant is by no means an habitually antisocial person. I have no right to speak with authority for any one else in the hall, but I gravely suspect that our old friend the average ritizen is quite capable of killing somebody given ihe proper provocative set of circumstances. I have no criminal record as yet, and I would just as soon not begin now. but I must freely admit that on several occasions I quite possibly might have kilPd some friend, or casual acquaintance if only a deadly weapon had been handy. I don't shoot dice, k but if you substitute poker I must admit that but for the absence of a convenient section of lead pipe I might have been sitting in the spot occupied by the unfortunate young man whose trial I witnessed. 0 0 0 The Judge f* a Prophet ACCORDINGLY. It shocked me Vhen the jury • was sent out of the room and the judge denied a motion to dismiss the indictment for first degree murder. And I had a right to be shocked because a few minutes later I met the judge in his chambers and he said, ‘ of course, this isn't a first degree case, but I'll charge the jury carefully to see that they don't arrive at any such verdict.” "You see. Mr. Broun.” he continued, “a lot of the penalties set by law are too severe. You can t get a conviction because the average jury doesn't want to send a man to the chair or even put him in a position where he can'get forty or sixty years. I m always accepting lesser pleas because I m afraid that holding to the major ones may mean having guilty men walk free without the penalty whatsoever. The judge turned out to be a prophet because mv friend, the crapshootor. eventually was acquitted by the verdict of the twelve good men and true. I think it would have been monstrous and fantastic to hate sent him to the electric chair, but I am not so sentimental about violent losers that it seemed to me reasonable that hp should go scot free. I rite the episode as evidence in favor of one of my favorite contentions which is that America is adopting precisely the wrong tactics in its effort to combat the crime wave. I read speeches and sermons and leaflets all of which begin by crying out that conditions are terrible and that the only remedy lies in sterner judges and stiffer sentences. B B B More Lenient Judges f N the contrary I think that there should never J be such a thing as a mandatory sentence even the case of first degree murder. I would have a lighter code and far more lenient men upon the bench. . After all. the complaint runs that an insufficient number of persons indicted for crimes ever come to spj-ve sentences, ts you want to make punishment more sure it stands to reason that the penalties ought to be less prodigious. When a defendant s life is at stake almost any jury will lean over backwards in giving him the benefit of the doubt. No juryman wants to run the risk that new evidence will be discovered three or four months after the defendant is dead. This is one of the chief reasons why circumstantial evidence is so largely thrown out the window. And in spite of the mystery story writers it still remains one of the best varieties of evidence which can be presented. I never have served on a jury. The authorities don’t like to take newspaper men. In any capital case I would pay very little heed to witnesses who identified the defendant. People are always making mistakes in such matters. Quite requently. fnends have assured me that they saw me at places where I was not to the best of my knowledge and belief and I ought to be easy to spot. But when I. or anybody else, is found standing over the murdered man with a smoking revolver in the right hand that ought to be important, no matter what the scenario writers or the dramatists may say. • Copvrleht. 1934. bv The Timrsi

Today s Science BY DAVID DIETZ

ROBOT scientists will take off for the stratosphere within the next few weeks, broadcasting by ladio their observations of cosmic rays to real scientists upon the ground. Plans to send aloft these automatic cosmic ray recorders have been completed by Dr. Arthur H. Compton, world-famous authority on cosmic rays, at the University of Chicago. The new device represents a year's work on the part of Dr. Compton and Professor J. M. Benade of Lahore. India. Sending aloft pilot balloons equipped with automatic recording devices has been done a number of times However, the records made by such balloons are of no value unless the apparatus is recovered after the balloon has returned to earth. What Professors Compton and Ber.ade have done Is to add an automatic radio transmitter to the instruments attached to the balloon. Consequently, all they need do is tune In on the balloon. The new device, it is believed, will obviate the necessity of stratosphere flights by aviators for cosmic ray studies a a a IN the gondola is a large insulated steel •bomb.” filled with argon gas. Technically, this is known as an ’ionization chamber." Cosmic rays, striking the bomb, go through its walls as easily as grasshoppers go through a chicken-wire fence. The cosmic rays influence the electrical state or ionization within the chamber. These changes in turn are recisterrd upon a device known as an electrometer. The needl* of this meter has a small mirror attached to it. Movements of this mirror control the amount of light falling upon a photo-electric cell which in its turn controls the signals sent out by a shore-wave radio transmitter. These radio waves are received upon ticker tape with a recording short-wave radio receiver upon the ground. Compton and his assistants, reading the record, are able from these to tell what the cosmic rays are doing. man PERHAPS the reader's reaction will be that Cartoonist Rube Goldberg never thought of a more complicated gadget. But it works and obviates the necessity of aviators risking their necks. Professor Compton feels that a large series of stratosphere records of cosmic rays should be made. The occasional flight by aviators does not give nearly as much information as the scientists feel they need. Accordingly, he is making plans to send up the robot broadcasters from spots all over the northern hemisphere from the equator to the Arctic circle. The balloons, It is believed, will rise to heights ranging from eight to fifteen miles.

testimony. The defe idant asserted that he was attacked by the other two players and struck in self-defense. Concerning any sueh flareup the precise truth is difficult to determine. but it seemed to me quite obvious that the jury was not railed ujon to deal with a liardened criminal who would always be a potential danger to society. Asa matter of fact murder, although listed as a capital crime, is not necessarily the most important transgression from a social point of view. Os course, I am not contending that every murderer should

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AUSTRIA-KEY TO EUROPE’S PUZZLE

Fate of Continent Again Rests With Oft-Besieged Nation

Tbi* It the first of four stories that tell in brief the history of Austria from its bejinnin** In the days of Rome, through the centuries of its rise to treat power, and then its crash in World War defeat, a background study which will aid in understandint the critical situation in central Europe today. BY WILLIS THORNTON NEA St.vice Staff Writer TJDAY Austria holds the key to the fate of Europe. It has held it for 2,000 years. And though the hands are weakened and feeble now, the key remains in them. Because Austria is where it is, it must remain what it is and always has been —the fellow who is "in the middle" between opposing forces greater than he. Austria sits at the crossroads of Europe. The best route from north to south, from the Baltic to the Mediterranean, always has been that through the Brenner pass of the Alps—directly through Austria. The best route from west to east, from Europe to Asia, always has been that down the valley of the Danube—directly through Austria. So when Germanic tribes of the north pressed south in their great invasions, it was usually in Austria that they did their bitterest fighting. And when Turk or Magyar came pressing westward toward Europe, it was in Austria that the issue was decided. So it has been for 2,000 years—so it is today. 000 IT is this same squeeze between a restless, thwarted Germany on the north and a reinvigorated, expanding Italy on the south that has Austria in so terrible a position today, and makes her once again the key country of Europe. It was much the same 2.000 years ago, when the Roman legions were campaigning farther and farther from Rome and throwing up their armed camps in the distant wilderness of England, Germany, Asia Minor, Spain. Hardy legionnaires plunged north vard into the forests along the Danube, but- there they were halted by the wild Germanic tribes north of that river. One of the strongest Roman camps was built on the Danube, and called Vindcbona. Today that camp is the great city of Vienna, shaken by the shock of arms as Italian and German glower at each other across t#e Danube as they did 2.000 years ago.

_ The DAILY WASHINGTON MERRY-GO-ROUND By Drew Pearson and Robert S. Allen—

NORRIS, Tenn., Aug. 17,—The lean, taciturn folk of the Tennessee valley don’t like being called a "laboratory.” They want to be let alone. This is the country where an early rugged individualist carved these words or. a tree: "D. Boone —Killed a Bar.” But the cards are stacked against them and there’s nothing to do but submit to courses in bee culture and parliamentary law. The strange thing is that there is little opposition. In a crossroads store in that, part of the valley which next year will be under sixty feet of backed-up water from Norris dam. the storekeeper drawled:

‘No, the TV A ain't stirred up much trouble here. We've got to move out. but they ain't morn a small majority of two or three in this town what's agin it.” The reason for acquiescence is two-fold. 1. TV A talks with money, both in buying properties in the reservoir areas, and i.i employing thousands of valley men on the two dam construction jobs—at Norris near Knoxville and at Wheeler near Muscle Shoals. 2. TV As prophets are soft-ped-aling the laboratory talk, urging a policy of self-determination. a a a IN the early days. Director A. E. Morgan and his staff of college trained, energetic young men got themselves labeled as "daniyankees with fancy notions.' The amazing thing is that the epithet has disappeared. They have not evaporated in the face of the pressing need of finishing a big engineering job In fact, the biggest construction job that is going on here is social. It may have come out of a textbook on sociology, but it has come out. It is a going concern. TV A crusaders get in their best cracks in the brand-new town of Norris, two miles from the dam. where the workers live. Here it is easier to sell the idea of a • broader life” than in the homes scattered about in the valley corn fields. Take the case of Art Lipscomb, who operates a "bulldozer" on the morning shift. For five and a half hours he and his machine scrape stone from handy piles for the big jaw of the electric shovel. Quitting at 12. he rides to Norris, takes a shower bath, puts on fresh clothes in his dormitory room that is equipped with an electric coolair vent, and strolls over to the cafeteria. a a u A QUARTER buys him a meal —fixed price paid in advance for a generous trayful He sits with his hat on his head and has no compunctions about the toothpick at the end of the meal. Strolling out he stops at the bulletin board. Notices invite him to attend courses in radio, shorthand. bee culture, poultry farming. English. His work is over for the day, he has earned five dollars and a half, there is nothing else going on. He decides to take up something. Shying at English and shorthand. he thinks radio might be worth while. It doesn't cost anything. He signs up. TV A policy is full of the missionary spirit. But it is justified as a practical, hard-headed policy. Officials reason this way: 4 Here is the Tennessee valley using only two-thirds of the electric power which existing private plants can generate. W’e are coming in to generate a whale of a

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South of the Danube the Romans settled and colonized their provinces of Raetia, Noricum and Pannonia (now parts of Yugoslavia, Hungary and Rumania). But north of the Danube they could not conquer. Austria was the border-ground. 000 WHEN the Roman empire fell apart, the Austrian territory was held by the German tribes, dominated by the western Frankish empire established by Charlemagne. But immediately it became the battleground of a thrust from the east. In the year 907 fierce hordes of Magyars from what is now Hungary overran the country and swept out the German rulers. Not until 955 was King Otto the Great able to drive them back to the eastward, and again Austria was the battleground. Today another King Otto, pretender to the throne, is being sought by one faction to rule Austria.

lot more. We must increase consumption. "How? By bringing in big industry? No, that would make trouble in competing sections. By increasing domestic consumption? Yes. But look at some of these shacks. If you put an electric washer in there you'll never get your money out.” a u u HENCE TVA is faced with a problem of long range social planning to increase living standards. The Tennessee valley has the people. And TVA teaches radio to Art Lipscomb so that when he goes home he can make a living for himself on a higher scale and be a good customer for TVA pow'er. That is an oversimplified statement of what is really a very diverse and complex program, a program involving social experiments rather far removed from business expediency. (Copyright. 1934. by United Feature Syndicate. Inc.) $30,000 DAMAGES ARE ASKED IN CAR DEATHS City Railways Sued by Administrators of Three Estates. Three suits demanding damages of SIO,OOO each for wrongful death, were on file today in county courts against Indianapolis Railways, Inc. Plaintiffs are Edward Davis, administrator of the estate of John Davis: Philip Davis, administrator of the estate of Lena Davis, and Margaret Sherman, administratrix of the estate of William Sherman. The complaints allege that John and Lena Davis and William Sherman were injured fatally June 27 when an automobile driven by John Davis was in collision with a street car at Washington and Blackford streets. 7.000 TROOPS READY FOR ANNUAL REVIEW Indiana-Kentucky Guardsmen to Take Part in Event. By Time* Special CAMP KNOX. Ky„ Aug. 17.—The full strength of the Thirty-eighth division, national guard, more than 7.000 in number, will march in annual review here tomorrow before Major-General Albert J. Bowler, Fifth corps area commander. Major-General Robert H. Tyndall, division commander, will lead the maneuver. A feature of the review will be the First cavalry, mechanized, the only regiment of its kind in the United States. Many visitors from Indiana and Kentucky are arriving at the fort for the division ceremony, which will include national guard units from both states.

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Again Austria was German and about 976 was first named "Ostarrich,” or "The Eastern Realm.” The present name Austria comes down from this and even down through very recent history Austria has been thought of as the easternmost outpost of the world of western Europe. The pre-war Viennese had a saying that "Asia begins at the Ringstrasse” (Vienna's most beautiful boulevard). 0 0 0 THE Austrian kings of these times were the Babenbergs, a house that ruled for many years, strongly supported by the German states to the west, because they were the best barrier against Hungarian and Magyar invasion. Regensburg, Passau, Salzburg, Vienna, were all important towns then, and today you find them still in the news of the Austrian conflict. And the Starhemberg family had fortressed castles in Austria

STATE EXAMINATIONS FOR JOBSJO BEGIN Vacancies Will Be Filled in Employment Service. Competitive examinations to fill future vacancies in the Indiana state employment service will be held Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday in Indianapolis, Gary, Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Evansville and New Albany. . Positions for which examinations will be conducted include state director, manager and supervisor and their assistants, interviewers, statisticians and clerks. Salaries range from $936 to $4,000 a year. As vacancies occur in the employment service they will be filled from persons who qualify on these examinations. Application blanks or further information may be obtained from Ford P. Hall, department of government, Indiana university, Bloomington, Ind. Professor Hall is state representative of the United States employment service of the department of labor. CARILLON PROGRAM SET David L. Neafus Will Play Bells at Cathedral. A carillon program will be presented at 7 Sunday night at the Scottish Rite cathedral, North and Meridian streets. David L. Neafus will play.

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then, long before the Hapsburgs were very important. From these Starhembergs is descended the present minister of defense, Ernst Ruediger Starhemberg, who almost became chancellor of Austria during the last few weeks, and who still commands her army. It was in 1273 that Count Rudolph of Hapsburg was crowned Roman emperor. He thrust eastward through Austria and beat Ottokar, the Hungarian king then in possession. Rudolph made Austria and Styria definitely part of the German empire of this first Hapsburg and his descendants. 000 During the later middle ages, Austria was torn with internal (usually religious) strife, ravaged by the black plague, and under continual threat of collapse because the Turks now menaced her on the east. They threatened to cut off- the trade ’to Asia through Vienna

THE NATIONAL ROUNDUP 000 000 By Ruth Finney

WASHINGTON, Aug. 17. —NRA is to be reorganized in the same whirlwind style it used on industry. There are two reasons for pushing this task ahead of all others on the administration’s fall program. One is the campaign; the other is the short time remaining before the recovery act expires. . . So far, New Deal opponents have directed most of their campaign fire against AAA because of the drought’s dramatic possibilities, but the administration does not expect this to continue. It realizes that NRA is more vulnerable than the agricultural administration. It wants to make a start at correcting some of its more obvious faults before the inevitable onslaught gets under way.

It also wants to experiment with different forms of organization before it writes new industrial legislation to send to the next congress. The time for such experimenting is short. While NIRA does not expire until June 16, administration officials want to get their legislative recommendations before congress as 6arly as possible in the winter session. They realize industry will be uneasy until agreement finally is reached as to its permanent relationship with government. They also realize that several long-drawn-out fights over the new legislation are probable, particularly over collective bargaining clauses. Industry will try to remove them altogether or to write into them provisions barring the closed shop and sanctioning company unions. Labor wants to sanction the closed shop and bar company unions.

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which had been her life-blood since the Crusades. Conflict with the Turks, especially during the time of their military greatness under Sultan Suleiman, was continual. Again Austria was the buffer that protected western Europe from the east. The Mohammedan invasions were repeatedly halted at the gates of Vienna. Belgrade and Budapest, now capitals of the new nations of Yugoslavia and the Hungarian Republic, fell to the Turks, and were for years under their domination. But not Vienna. Vienna remained western. Gradually Austria, expanding its territory, was becoming a leading factor in the Holy Roman Empire and the councils of western Europe. Its period of greatness was opening before it. NEXT—A war that lasted thirty years, and how a great empire was built up out of separate peoples who disliked eaeh other.

npHE first experimental reorganization may take place immediately after next Tuesday’s meeting at the White House, at which members of the emergency and executive councils will discuss NRA’s future with the President. Donald R. Richberg, general counsel of NRA until he became executive secretary of the two councils, has been working on reorganization plans for the last six weeks. Apparently he intends to recommend, as General Johnson did some weeks ago, that a board take over administration of NRA. In all probability, this will be a full-time board, not a supervisory one of cabinet members. Early in NRA’s history a cabinet board was organized to watch over it, but it soon ceased to function. Whether the general, whose personality has become identified so closely w : ith NRA, will leave it entirely, or will serve as one member of the new administrative group, remains to be decided. There is little chance of his regaining as executive officer under a policy-making board. a a a REORGANIZATION of NRA probably will mean little immediate change in industrial codes. President Roosevelt never has exercised the power, granted him in the recovery act, of making arbitrary .changes in cooes once they are in effect. The administration is convinced that voluntary compliance can be secured only when a code represents agreement between industry and government, not mandate. However, all codes expire when the recovery act expires, and the new legislation replacing it probably will contain limitations forbidding price fixing, except possibly in natural resource industries or in specified emergencies. LUDLOW OBJECTS TO OUTSIDE PWA BOSSES State’s Own Engineers Qualified to Supervise, He Says. By Time * Special WASHINGTON, Aug. 17.—A protest against the assignment of outside engineers and inspectors to Indiana projects was lodged today with the public works administration by Representative Louis Ludlow. In writing to E. K. Burlew, head of the PWA personnel, Mr. Ludlow stated: “I will be most appreciative if you will look into this matter and advise me what the facts are. We have a considerable list of approved inspectors and engineers who are Indiana citizens. It is my belief that they should be employed on these Indiana projects.”

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Fair Enough ml Mil BATON ROUGE. La.. Aug. IT—Under command of Huey Long, the Louisiana state legislature is meeting in special session at this time to pass such laws as may be necessary to deliver to the dictator the municipal government of the city of New Orleans. Huey's tired of Washington and the United States senate and is coming back home to elect himself Governor again in the next holding of the solemn referendum, which, no doubt, he can do very easily, God sparing him. He has not had a drink

since the adjournment of congress in Washington. Drams never did him any good. He often overspoke himself when he was looking through the bottom of a glass and on one memorable occasion about a year ago in a dressy but necessarily exclusive club on Long island, he was popped in the eye by one of the members for a breach of manners. The senator went on to Milwaukee, where he appeared the next day wearing a shanty on his eye, claiming that he had been ganged by a crowd of low characters. But it never was necessary to gang Huey. In a

physical fight conducted according to the American tradition, he could not lick a lien butterfly with a flit gun, and the accepted explanation of the famous battle of the gents’ room is that he spoke out of turn at a moment when he did not have his bodyguard at his elbow, and was socked In the eye, even as any one else, 000 Rodi/guards Are Cheap THE Kingfish is only 40 and is about as well off physically as most men of his age, but does not think it advisable to engage personally persons who desire to pop him on the eye. He has discovered that mercenaries can be hired for moderate sums, and at the expense of the taxpayers to represent him in such contests and therefore refers such challengers to his bodyguards. He calls them his thug men. Huey owns the state legislature and the Governor, but the city of New Orleans and practically all the daily newspapers of the state have been a bit fractious. Therefore, through his Governor, O. K. Allen, Huey called the statesmen in from the swamps and forests to ratify his ambitions by legislative enactment. His program, when adopted, will deliver New Orleans to the state administration and Huey, of course, controls the state. It also will impose punitive taxes on the papers. Incidental to this program is a Seabury investigation of the city administration of New Orleans which will be very embarrassing, if not politically fatal to the city administration. New Orleans always has been famous as a center of gaiety which is a euphemistic way of describing a wicked city. There were public brothels and gambling houses which could not have existed without the tolerance of the city officials, and when Huey wished to move in and seize the voting machinery of the city by force of arms all he had to offer by way of pretext was a scandalized discovery that an infamous condition had been allowed to develop. 000 Two Shots Arc Fired HIS troops, ordered out by his Governor, Mr. Allen, were to close these resorts and seize the election book so that der Kingfish, in an impartial investigation of his own, might cross off all names which did not rightfully belong there. The soldiers have lazed around for a few weeks instead of drilling as they are supposed to during their annual boy-scouting season and fired two shots in the course of the entire war to date. The first one was accidental. A soldier’s musket slipped out of his hand and went bang. The other shell was exploded Tuesday evening when a sergeant, grown weary of it all, walked into a hot tamale resort and fired one round with his pistol to see if it would work. It worked A short time later when a reporter and photographer from the hostile press arrived to check up on the accident, they were conquered by the military forces. The casualties wc' one pair of pants, the photographer’s, torn in the course of duty. The action is described in detail, in the expense of the owner of the wounded pants. Der Kingfish’s war is a long and complex story, but it might surprise you to learn that the ordinary citizens such as you meet on trains and just anywhere. do not share that loathing for him which is expressed by people at a distance who form their opinions from reading of the newspapers and political reviews. 000 He's a Good Lawyer HUEY is recognized even in Washington as one of the smartest-sleeve statesmen this country has developed and a first-class lawyer. He has a lowdown familiar way of orating to the ordinary, folksy type of citizen who is flattered easily, and he sometimes goes off into the far country of his state and sleeps in his clothes, right on the cabin floor with the humblest families to demonstrate his humility. Arising in the morning, all rumpled and towseled and bleary-eyed to water his face and eyes under the pump and partake of whatever there is for breakfast, he sells himself beyond challenge as the lriend of the people in the vicinity. Moreover, he has bribed them with concrete roads all over the state, free bridges instead of toll ferries, and free text books for the schools. Like Bill Thompson, in Chicago, although he has taken care of his friends out of the puDlir. funds, he has delivered certain appreciable results which help to explain his complete command of the state department. It would be much more easy to denounce and scold der Kingfish if his political opponents were in a position to peer down their noses at him, but they aren’t. He can show the roads and bridges and school books and. in the present fight against the city administration of New Orleans, he has adroitly put the city fathers in a position of defending or apologizing for the notorious existence of brothels and gambling joints. They existed when he was Governor, to be sure, and of course they always have paid graft to the local political administration. But Huey orates about the purity of young girlhood and that gets them. Well, this story is just getting under way. There will be more tomorrow and for some time to come. (Copyright. 1334. by United Feature Syndicate. Inc.i

Your Health —BY DR. MORRIS FISHBEIN

SOME people have the vague notion that there are special diets for every disease that afflicts mankind and that a good many diseases can be cured by diet alone. This impression arises, no doubt, simply because the satisfaction of hunger is one of the fundamental disorders of mankind. Actually, there are a few major diseases in which the prescription of a specific diet is absolutely essential. In the majority of diseases, however, general diets are prescribed, such as soft diets, rough diets, high protein and low protein, high carbohydrate and low carbohydrate, or high fat and low fat diets. It is also possible to increase the amounts of calcium or of iron or of other mineral salts by selection of certain food substances. Any good diet must, however, have suitable amounts of mineral salts and vitamins. a u a THE main diseases in which doctors find it necessary to prescribe diets are diabetes, overweight and underweight, inflammations of the kidney and, more recently, epilepsy. There are. of course, some cases in which it is believed that the restriction of salt may be of value and there are some who place a great deal of emphasis on having diets that are very low in acidforming substances.

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