Indianapolis Times, Volume 45, Number 256, Indianapolis, Marion County, 6 March 1934 — Page 3

MARCH 6, 1934_

DILLINGER BOUGHT WAY OUT, HAD NO NEED FOR ‘WOODEN GUN,’ INFERS MARY KINDER ‘Reached Some One on Inside,’ Says Girl Who Recalls Gangster’s Activities Prior to Tucson Capture. BY HELEN LINDSAY Tlmei Staff Writer Any whittling ability that John Dillinger may have is unknown to Mary Kinder. And Mary should know, for she traveled across the country with Dillinger, Harry Pierpont, and other members of the gang for weeks.

“I never knew Johnnie to take the time to whittle out a wooden gun,” Mary laughed. “He always was moving faster than that.” Though .she admits she is guessing. just as any ordinary citizen does. Mary doesn’t put much stock in the story that Dillinger effected his escape with a wooden gun, carved out as he sat in his cell in the Crown Point jail. “It looks as if Johnnie had gotten to someone on the inside with srme money. Now. I don't know. But when he came through St. Louis, the police there told me that if he had come there, and offered them money, they W’ould have taken it, and let him go. And I guess all officers are alike.” Would Like to Attend Trial Mary has made no definite plans to go to Lima for the trial of her lover, Harry Pierpont, alleged "trigger man” of the gang. “Sure, I'd like to go, and I'm just waiting to hear from his lawyers and mine, to know whether they think it would be safe,” she said. “But if I went, and something were to happen, they'd grab me again, saving that I had something to do with it.” And Mary wouldn't be surprised if "something were to happen.” By “something," she indicated she means a delivery, or an attempted delivery, of Pierpont, Makley and Clark from the jail at Lima, where they are held pending trial on charges of slaying Sheriff Jess Barber. “Johnnie and Harry think so much of each other, there’s nothing they wouldn’t do to help each other,” she continued. "I guess every one is expecting .Johnnie to try to do something to get Harry and the other boys out.” Doesn’t Like Quiet Life Released from the Marion county jail only last week, where she had been held on charges that she had aided members of the gang in their escape, Mary admits that she is bored with having nothing to do.” "I wish I could be where I knew' what is happening to them all,” she said. “I sit here and wonder about Johnnie—if he's being careful. or taking the same foolish chances that he took before he was raptured. "There was nothing that Johnnie missed that he wanted to see. He enjoyed the movie of the Three Little Pigs.’ and watched the different movie houses in Chicago to see where it would be shown next. ‘Come on,’ he'd say, ’Let's go there; I want to see the ’Three Little Pigs' again.’ ” The last day of the World's fair in Chicago, Dillinger returned to the Clarendon street apartment,

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where police attempted to catch the gang, with a cotton stuffed figure of one of Walt Disney's famous pig characters. He carried it into the apartment with an armload of other souvenirs of the fair, Mary said. Mingled With Officials ‘Harry and I returned from a visit to Harry’s mother’s home, to learn that Johnnie had been to the opening hockey game in Chicago,” Mary recalled. "No one was looking for a neat, immaculate, well-dressed man as one of the Dillinger gang, and all of the boys always kept themselves looking well. The police and city and state officials flocked to that hockey game, but Johnnie went anyway.” It is chances of this sort that Mary is afraid will endanger Dillinger in his second flight from the law. "We all took chances,” she admitted. "When w r e drove into a town, Harry would ask policemen for directions to hotels and roads. One night I looked out our hotel window and saw’ a policeman standing on the sidewalk across the street. I didn’t think anything of it, but the next morning we had a good laugh. We had selected a hotel just across the street from the police station.” Only twice during their adventures eluding the police were they frightened. Both instances occurred in Miami, according to Mary. Saw Group of Policemen "Harry and I came dowm to the lobby of the hotel in an elevator, and saw several policemen standing in a group,” she said. “He walked over and turned his key over to the desk and we walked out. "In front of the hotel there were other policemen and a squad car. We were uneasy until we learned that a young man had committed suicide by jumping from a hotel window.” Another time, according to Mary, Pierpont saw’ an Indiana car parked in front of the hotel. It bore a card which he thought said ‘ “Indiana State Police.” "He parked our car in front of the hotel and started in to warn me,” Mary said. “Then he went back and looked at the sign on the car again. It said,* ‘inspected by state police.’ ” Tucson Capture a Surprise The capture in Tucson w’as a surprise to Mary, though she said they all knew’ they would be caught some time. “But I ddn’t think it would be done so quietly,” was her comment. "I didn’t like Tucson, and insisted that w r e not stop there. They all called me ’the kid,’ and Booby Clark went over and laughed when he told the other girls that he

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An unwilling companion of John Dillinger, "No. 1 outlaw,” in his flight from county jail in Crowm Point. Ind., here recites the story of his thrilling experience. Edward Saagers, garage man. feet perched on stove (above), is telling his townsmen how the bandit forced him to drive the sheriff’s car in his dash for liberty.

Conser Avenue Work May Be Started This Week

WOMEN’S CONSUMERS LEAGUE HEAD NAMED Mrs. Lenore Russell Will Lead Campaign for NRA. Mrs. Lenore Russell, Greenfield, has been appointed state chairman of the Indiana Women’s Consumers League, which will conduct an education campaign to back NRA. The appointment was announced by Fred Hoke, Indiana director of the national emergency council. Chairmen will be appointed for each of the twelve congressional districts and organization wdll proceed in each county, he said. All services will be voluntary. guessed we’d have to go on, as the kid didn’t like Tucson. "They all thought of it after they were captured. ‘lf listened to the kid,’ ” one of them said, ‘ “w r e wouldn’t have been here.’ ” The capture in Tucson came through a policeman impersonating a representative of a bakery. "There was nothing unusual in that.” Mary said. “We always were greeted when we moved into anew house by organizations welcoming us to the city. In Chicago, we received letters from the mayor, telling us he was glad we had come there, and if there was anything we didn’t understand, to call on him and he would be glad to explain it to us. “Johnnie always got a big kick out of those welcome letters and visits. He would laugh and say, Wouldn’t they be surprised if they knew they were welcoming the famous Dillinger gang to their city?’ “I guess Johnnie is getting a kick out of this, too. In spite of being on the run, he's probably had a big laugh out of the story of his escape with the aid of a wooden gun. 5 -

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Construction Depends Upon CWA Officials, Says Board Head. Construction of Conser avenue, from Thirty-eighth street to Fortyfourth street, is expected to be started this week, provided final approval is forthcoming from CWA officials, Walter C. Boetcher. president of the public works beard, announced yesterday. Tentative approval earlier had been granted by the CWA. but the project was delayed when it was discovered the park commissioners in office in 1924 had agreed to pay Crown Hill cemetery $4,500 for the necessary right-of-way whenever it should be built. In a series of conferences the cemetery held up a waiver of this sum requested by the park commissioners board until it obtained assurance that a boulevard would be constructed which would be of sufficient permanence to insure the cemetery it w’ould not face assessment for anew street within the next few years. The boulevard will be seventy feet wide, It will be given a treated surface which will improve under passenger -traffic, Mr. Boetcher stated.

Indianapolis Tomorrow

Kiwanis Club, luncheon, Columbia Club. Lions Club, luncheon, Washington. Twelfth District Legion, luncheon, Board of Trade. Purdue Alumni Association, luncheon, Severin. Mutual Insurance Association, luncheon, Severin.

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Herbert Youngblood (above) was taken with Dillinger in his break from the Lake county jail at Crown Point when the outlaw locked all the jail guards in a cell. HOSPITAL HEAD OI\I TRIP Methodist Superintendent to Speak at Wichita Today. The White Cross center of the Indianapolis Methodist hospital will be the inspiration for a similar guild to be formed in Wichita, Kan. Dr. John G. Benson, superintendent of the Methodist hospital, will address a women’s rally in Wichita today, outlining the plans for the guild's formation. On Wednesday, Dr. Benson will speak in Abilene, Kan., to members of the Kansas State Methodist Conference.

NAZIS RAPIDLY PREPARING FOR WARJISJJLAIM Hitler Posing as Friend of Peace. Flemish Author Tells Audience. German Nazi preparations for war are going forward rapidly while Adolph Hitler poses as a friend of peace, according to Pierre Van I Paassen, Flemish journalist, who i spoke last night to a meeting of 1 more than 600 persons of the Indianapolis Zionist district in Beth El Zedeck temple. Prisons in Germany are packed with Pacifists whilp Hitler asks for five years of peace in which to prei pare for war, according to Mr. Van Paassen. The speaker said further that Hitler’s position rapidly becoming a desperate one with exports off, business conditions worse, his promise unfulfilled and his followers droping away from him. Mr. Van Paassen urged Palestine as a refuge for German Jews, pointing out that other countries to which they may flee from Nazi outrages already have difficult unemployment problems which only , would be aggravated by a large influx of emigrants. Rabbi Elias Charrv also spoke, urging support of the Zionist movement. Cantor Myro Glass sang his new composition, "A Silent Protest.” Daniel Frisch presided. PERSECUTION VICTIM CLAIMS OLDEST FLIER Major Ocker Charges He Was Grounded Without Cause. By United Press FT. SAM HOUSTON. Tex., March 6. —Attempts to picture Major William C. Ocker as the victim of persecution by other officers were continued today by the defense at Major Ocker’s trial by court martial. Oldest army flier in point of service, Major Ocker is accused of making derogatory remarks about Lieu- | tenant Colonel Henry B. Clagett, Kelly Field commandant, who preI ferred the charges. Major David N. W. Grant of Randolph Field testified that flight sur- ; geons at Kelly Field had been in- ! structed to find Major Ocker. who I was taugh to fly by the Wright | brothers, physically unfit for flying.

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ELECTED QUEEN

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Miss Janet Jerman. Greensburg, was elected queen of the 1934 Butler indoor relays yesterday. She is the daughter of Elmer C. Jerman, superintendent of city schools at Greensburg. Miss Jerman is a member of Pi Beta Phi sorority. Kappa Delta Pi. and Scarlet Quill. Members of her court of honor will be Marie Collins, Butler Independent Association; Florence Condrey. Delta Zeta: Margaret Mattingly, Delta Gamma: Mozelie Ehnes, Alpha Chi Omega; Florence Rathert. Kappa Delta; Frances Wysong. Zeta Tau Alpha; Virginia Fosler, Kappa Kappa Gamma; Grace Barnett. Kappa Alpha Theta, and Avenelie Brenneman. Delta Delta Delta.

MICROPHONES TAKEN FROM FEENEY OFFICE DAY BEFORE BREAK

For several months, radio stations WKBF and WFBM have had microphones installed in the office of Commissioner A1 Feeney of the state safety department. They were put in after ten criminals escaped from the Indiana state prison at Michigan City so that any man hunt could be described over the air. But days have been rather dull and there was nothing exciting to broadcast. Wire charges were going on. So last Friday both stations decided to cut out that expense. They took out the microphones Friday afternoon. Saturday morning John Dillinger escaped from the Crown Point jail.

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FARM BUREAU GROUP OPENS MEETING HERE Co-Operative Association to Select Directors of Districts. Stockholders of the Indiana Farm Bureau Co-Operative Association. Inc., opened their annual meeting today in the Claypool. Directors from Districts 1,3, 5, 7 and 9 and a director at large were to be selected at the meeting. “The total business transacted in 1933 is more than that of 1932. The 1933 business was approximately $2,224,000,” said Everett Jeannes, sec-retary-treasurer. The session this afternoon was to be devoted to finance. Dr. Abram S Woodard, pastor of the Meridian Street Methodist church, and William Aufranc of the Ohio Livestock Producers Associa- | tion. were to be the main speakers ; tonight. Tomorrow's program will consist of elections, reports of committees ! and talks. William H. Gray, director of the first division, will preside over the various sessions. Stockholders in the state organization are the county farm co-op-erative associations. TRUCK DRIVER HURT IN CRASH WITH AUTO Victim’s Condition Is Reported Critical at Hospital. A collision between a truck and an auto today at Thirty-first street and Graceland avenue resulted in a possible skull fracture and internal injuries for Ed Tansey, 57, of 2403 North Gale street. Tansey was taken to city hospital. His condition is critical. According to witnesses the truck driven by Tansey collided w’ith an auto driven by Robert O. Pettiford, 36, Negro, of 2624 Shriver avenue. Pettiford was not arrested. School Chief to Speak Grover Van Duyn, assistant superintendent of the state board of public instruction, will address members of the Rockville Road Civic Association tomorrow night at the Garden City school on "The Home and the School.”