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FORMER PASTOR IS MURDERED HERE; PROBE UNDER WAY Wabash Man, Father of Two, Student in Embalming’ School, Is Shot to Death in His Auto. ROBBERS BLAMED FOR TRAGEDY Valuable Ring Missing, Police Declare; Body Is Discovered in Car, Motor Still Running. Shot to death, the body of Gaylord V. Saunders, 35, student at a local embalming school and former Wabash (Ind.) pastor, was found early today in his car, parked at Fortieth street just east of Meridian street. Death resulted from a bullet wound in the back of the head. The bullet, from a .38-caliber weapon, penetrated the brain and shattered the front of the skull, Dr. John E. Wyttenbach, deputy coroner, reported, after conducting an autopsy. Mr. Saunders had been staying with Joseph Mathers, another embalming student, at 1725 North Meridian street, and, according to Mr. Mathers, had been partly intoxicated most of the time for the last several days. •

Mr. Mathers told Dr. Wyttenbach that last night he remonstrated with Mr. Saunders alH>ut drinking, and the latter left the house about midnight. Mrs. Marie E. Morel, operator of the rooming house where Mr. Saunders had been living, told police that after Mr. Saunders left the house last night, she heard him arguing with two men in front of the house. In reconstructing the crime, police believe Mr. Saunders may have picked up two companions in his car, one sitting in the rear seat and shooting him, perhaps while the car was being driven in the country. This latter possibility was given credence since none of the residents in the vicinity of where the car was found reported hearing a shot during the night. Theory Is Substantiated Further, officers said, if Mr. Saunders had been shot where the car was found, his body probably would have slumped over the wheel Instead of falling to one side. The position of the body indicated it might have been pushed under the wheel after death occurred. Theory that Mr. Saunders was slain by robbers was substantiated by other students of the embalming school, who said he wore a valuable diamond ring, which was missing, together with his wrist watch. They said he also carried large sums of money mo6t of the time. His empty purse was found near the body. Mr. Saunders had been a student at the Indiana school of embalming, located in the new Indiana university dental school building, since last September. Preached Last Sunday Mr. Mather said the murdered man had resigned the pastorate of the First Methodist Episcopal church at Wabash, Ind., his home, last Sunday when he preached his farewell sermon. Mr. Saunders is survived by the widow. Mrs. Naomi Saunders, and two sons, William, 13, and James, 10, living in Wabash. j The body was discovered about 6:30 this morning by Mrs. Emma B. Herd. 3947 North Meridian street, who first noticed the car. its motor riming, when she arose about 4:30 a. m. On her way to catch a bus, Mrs. Herd saw the body in the front seat, and called police. Whisky in Car Officers found Mr. Saunders’ body under the steering wheel, his head lying on the right side of the seat. He had a bump over one eye, and a gash on the back of his head. On the floor of the back seat was his hat and a pint bottle half full of whisky, officers said. They reported his purse was found lying on the running board of the car, indicating he may have been robbed after being shot. Mrs. Saunders, who had been in Indianapolis to visit her husband for several days, returned home Wednesday. She was notified of his death this morning. Police this afternoon were planning to question a young woman whose name and telephone number were found on a piece of paper in Mr. Saunders' pocket. IT. S. Postoffice Robbed By Timr Special BOSWELL, Ind.. Feb. 2.—Yeggmen blew the Boswell postoffice safe last night and escaped with $l6O in cash and about SSO in postage stamps.

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SI 30,000 LOOT OF DANDIT TRIO Du Pont Pay Roll Seized by Gunmen; Teller and Guard Held Up. By United Peer* PENNS GROVE, N. J., Feb. 2. j Four bandits robbed the Penns I Grove National bank today, and escaped with $130,000, state police reported. Four youthful bandits held up two employes of the bank. The bank employes, Harold Anderson, a teller, and William Waddington, guard, were taking the: money from the postoffice to the bank for the bi-monthly pay roll of the Du Pont plants at Deepwater and Carney’s point. As they neared the bank a small sedan swerved toward them and two men leaped from the car. “Stick ’em up and don’t make any trouble.” Anderson said one of j the men told him. The man grabbed the bag containing the money. Covering the bank employes w r ith revolvers, the two bandits rejoined two companions in an automobile and sped toward Philadelphia. Hourly Temperatures 6a. m 23 10 a. m 28 7a. m 23 11 a. m 30 8 a. m...;. 24 12 (noon).. 31 9 a. m 25 1 p. m 38

Wounded Man Confesses Slaying , Detectives Say

Grand jury investigation of the i slaying of Mrs. Grace Lackey on I Jan. 8, in which officials claim a purported confession by Charles j Chapman, who is in city hospital ! with a bullet wound in his head, w T ill j be sought by Prosecutor Herbert E. Wilson, he said today. The purported confession, obtained by John Dalton, criminal court investigator, and John Dugan, prosecutor’s investigator, late yesterday, is written in Chapman's own handwriting. In it, it is stated that he killed Mrs. Lackey, with whom he had been living at the Carson avenue where the tragedy occurred, after a quarrel. “Early in January, on a Saturday afternoon. I went there.” the purported confession relates. “On Monday night (Jan. 8> Grace I (Mrs. Lackey) and I had an argument, and about 10 o’clock I shot

U. S.-Japanese Peace Pact Is Hope of New Nippon Ambassador

The vital question of relations between the United States and Japan, and the possible trend they may take in the future, are disrusse& frankly in the followinc notable interview with Horishi Saito. ambassador-designate to Washington. who sails for the Tnited States tomorrow to take up his important post. BY FREDERICK Kl'H Tnited Press Staff Correspondent (Copyright. 1934. by United Press) LONDON Feb. 2.—A Japanese American understanding for peace in the Pacific was urged today by Horishi Saito, newly appointed Japanese ambassador to Washington. In a frank, nonpolitical discussion of problems of the Pacific. Mr. Saito revealed in an exclusive interview with the United Press the trend which he hopes future relations will take. He emphasized the following major points: 1. A nonaggressive understanding could be reached, perhaps with Russia included. 2. There is no danger of a war between Japan and Russia. 3. Japan would like to see the immigration barrier removed and to be placed on the same basis as

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COLLEGE STUDENTS TO GET U. S. AID Part-Time Jobs for 100,000 Goal of Hopkins. By United Prexx WASHINGTON, Feb. 2.—Relief and Civil Works Administrator Harry L. Hopkins today arranged to give part-time jobs to 100,000 needy young men and women to enable them to attend colleges and universities during the second semester now beginning.

Grace Lackey three times and then shot myself with my oyn .25 automatic pistol once.’ The alleged confession added, “I do not know what I did with the gun after the shooting occurred.” The statement removes a mysterious element injected into the case by statement of Deputy Coroner E. R. Wilson that the evidence convinced him a third party had shot both Mrs. Lackey and Chapman. Relatives of Chapman employed an attorney and private detective to make an independent investigation. While there is little hope that Chapman will recover. Prosecutor Wilson said the purported confession will be placed before the grand jury for an indictment on which Chapman would be tried in event he recovers.

European nations in the United States. 4. The United States probably will recognize Manchoukuo eventually. 5. Japan does not menace United States trade and does not intend to monopolize the Manchoukuo market. Sitting in the glow of a crackling fire in the delightful living room of the Japanese embassy, Mr. Saito discussed the broad outlines of Japanese-American relations, although he explained that as am-bassador-designate he would be unable to deal with political problems. He did consent to review the general situation, however, after recalling the fourteen years he already has spent in the United States, alternately in Washington, New York and Seattle. He will sail tomorrow on the Brengaria and intends,*a month of two after presenting his credentials to President Roosevelt, to return to Tokio for conferences with his government. He mentioned, incidentally, that any conversations regarding naval

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Upper—Miss Genevieve Bryant, 4167 Park avenue, playing “Me and My Shadow” with the docile marmota monax (groundhog to you in the statehouse museum. Lower —“Me-Groundhog!” a real one, owned by Russell Gladden, 131 South Emerson avenue, trying to duplicate Miss Bryant’s feat on a sidewalk. o u ALL good groundhogs saw their shadows—today, Whether they’ve gone to the Happy Burrowing ground, where all good groundhogs go, or really bite through photographer’s gloves as “Me—Groundhog” did as they got a glimpse of themselves. Which means that Indianapolis is headed for the last roundup of snow and frost in one six week’s splurge of winter. That is it means it if you believe in the efficacy, of woodchucks as soothsayers of sunshine and snow. But J. A. Armington. local metorologist, chucks the yearly woodchuck wheeze into the backalley with black cats, Fridays the 13th, and the promenade beneath ladders or the breaking of a shaving mirror. tt tt HE tried to thwart Monsieur groundhog with the forecast of “increasing cloudiness,” but at 9 a. m. an imperfect debut was made to a weak spotlight for Old Sol. “I’m taking no sides. Let him have his day. There’s no cold wave in sight,” graciously offered Mr. Armington as a compromise ■with legend. , But one just couldn’t help giving Monsieur of the Mole family a sideswipe at his prognostications by forecasting a five-degree rise in temperature for tomorrow over this morning’s lowest temperature of 20 degrees. Meanwhile, “Me and My Shadow” crawled back into-v a glass show case and holes with a wellknown raised tail razzberry for weather forecasters, governmental and amateur. Times Index Berg Cartoon 18 Bridge 13 Broun 17 , Classified 26,27 Comics '• • • • 29 Crossword Puzzle 16 j Curious World 29 Editorial 18 Financial 28 Food Section 21, 22, 23 Hickman. Theaters 17 Our Gang, a Series 17 Pegier I 7 Radio 8 Sports 24,25 State News 9 Unknown Blond 29 War Pictures 19 Woman's Pages 12,13

issues will have to be postponed until after his visit to Tokio. He has been absent from his country for three years on diplomatic missions. With regard to a Japanese-Amer-ican understanding ,Mr. Saito emphasized the necessity of friendly relations. (It will be recalled that Foreign Minister Koki Hirota in Tokio repeatedly has announced that an effort to develop the most friendly relations with the United States is a keystone of his policy and that United Press dispatches from Tokio have pointed out that Mr. Hirota some months ago sounded out Washington on the possibility of a “Japa-nese-American treaty of amity” which would recognize in concrete fashion the reciprocal nature of the very important commerce between the two nations. Washington, however. so far has not evinced an immediate desire for such an agreement.) Asked whether he favors a Japa-nese-American non-aggression pact, Mr. Saito said, “I realize that the

D. S. TO INVESTIGATE INDIANA’S POWER RESOURCES, LAY PLANS FOR HYDROELECTRIC PROJECT

Reign of Terror Mob Ended , Police Claim; Fugitive Trio Punks ’ Fear of Death in Chair Lurks in Eyes of Pierpont, Dillinger, Makley and Clark; Hamilton, Burns and Fox Called ‘Small Fry.’ By United Preat 1 , CROWN POINT, Ind., Feb. 2. Anew indictment against John Dillinger, charging him with the murder of policeman William O’Malley in an East Chicago bank robbery, was returned today by a Lake county grand jury. Judge William J. Murray ordered the gang leader arraigned next Monday. Prosecutor Robert G. Estil said that the altered charge was obtained to insure that a death penalty would be inflicted if Dillinger is convicted. BY BASIL GALLAGHER Times Staff Writer The swift lariat of Arizona law which dropped so suddenly around the necks of four “terror mobsters” in Tucson a week ago marks the last roundup of Indiana’s most fearsome band of outlaws.

With John Dillinger, Harry Pierpont, Charles Makley and Russell Clark imprisoned and facing execution, police today expressed little fear that John Hamilton or John Burns, bandits still at large, would attempt reprisals. Police based their claim on the admissions of Pierpont and Mackley that the planning and execution of all the “jobs" perpetrated by the terror mob were done by the four men brought back from Tucson this week. To use the words of Captain Matt Leach, the rest of the mobsters were merely “small fry.” Dillinger and Pierpont, according to Captain Leach, were really the “brains,” with Pierpont taking precedence over the much-publicized Dillinger as the actual leader of the mobsters. Today while Pierpont, Makley and Clark languished in solitary confinement behind the red brick walls of the state prison at Michigan City, John Dillinger waited for the Lake county grand jury to return the “air-tight” indictment which will bring him into the very shadow of the electric chair for the murder of patrolman Pat O’Malley during an East Chicago bank holdup. Pierpont Labeled Killer Tall, blond Harry Pierpont of the cold, piercing blue eyes, soon will be taken to Ohio to answer for the murder of Sheriff Jess Sarber in Lima, 0., when the gang went to the small prison there to release Dillinger, under arrest for the Massachusetts Avenue bank holdup. Although Makley, Clark and other gangsters were present when the aged sheriff was killed in cold blood in the small Ohio jail, it was Pierpont, according to Captain Leach and Philip Lutz, attorneygeneral, who fired the fatal shot and kicked the prostrate body of the old man as he lay dying on the floor. And so Pierpont, the acknowledged leader of the gang which created a reign of terror in a score of states and looted ten midwestern banks of more than $250,000, like Dillinger, stands veritably in the shadow of death today. There is a possibility, according to prosecuting attorneys, that Makley and Clark may “beat the murder rap,” as the mobsters so neatly phrase it, when the Ohio jury deliberates on the slaying of the sheriff. But there also is a distinct possibility that these men also may perish, according to state and county officials, because of the recent unwillingness of both courts and juries throughout the United States toward allowing desperate criminals of the terror mob type to circumvent the law by legal loopholes.

American people dislike commitments which suggest foreign entanglements, so perhaps it might not j be feasible to put such an accord j in writing, but it would be desirable to have an understanding of some sort, in that spirit. “The existing 1922 four-power treaty between Japan, the United States, Great Britain and France,” he continued, “for maintenance of the status quo in the Pacific, also was framed so as to avoid any suggestion of an alliance. “Even a three-power non-aggres-sion treaty might be effectuated among the United States, Japan and Russia, if Japan's position and motives in the far east were recognized and appreciated.” Replying to a question regarding the immigration issue Mr. Saito said candidly: “Naturally, we would like to see the Japanese placed on the same basis as any European country. We have been glad to notice a strong movement in the United States, notably in California itself, in that direction. I am well aware, of course, that this problem rests in

Reports that John Hamilton, gang member, was dead were laughed at by Captain Matt Leach and Chicago police today. The vstatement that the gangster was killed during the holdup of the East Chicago bank was made by Pierpont and Makley during the long ride from Tucson to Michigan City.

“Merely a “cover-up” to take the “heat off him,” was the way Captain Leach regarded the story which the prisoners told of having thrown the gangster's body in the Calumet river when he died following the holdup. “Some day soon,” Captain Leach added, “we will arrest Burns and Hamilton and thus end the whole gang. Meanwhile, you may be sure the “terror mob” as a gang is through. No reprisals will come from Hamilton or Burns, who are just a couple of “punks.” And Mary Kinder, the 100-pound “gun moll,” with the enigmatic smile and the undying love for her man, Pierpont, is behind the bars in the Marion county jail charged with aiding the prisoners to escape from the state prison. “I had a good time” Makley says behind the bars in Michigan City.” We lived like kings for four months anyway.” But his remark is an idle boast. Fear of being “burned” lurks in the eyes of all the “terror mobsters.”

Nonchalant Mary Kinder Granted Hearing Delay

Smiling and nonchalant, Mrs. Mary Kinder of terror mob fame, appeared in criminal court today before Judge Frank P. Baker, who postponed her formal arraignment long enough to allow her attorney to study the charges. Mrs. Kinder, 25, confessed lover of Harry Pierpont, alleged trigger man of the John Dillinger gang, is under indictment on charges of aiding Pierpont after his escape from the state prison by obtaining shelter and clothing for him. Mrs. Kinder, accompanied by her mother, Mrs. Shirley Patterson; her attorney, Miss Jessie Levy, and William M. Fogarty, attorney, appeared before Judge Baker. “An appearance is entered for Mrs. Kinder, but I haven’t had a chance to read the indictment,” said Miss Levy. “I don’t want to cause any unnecessary delay, but I would like some time,” she added. “Hasn’t Mr. Holmes (Ira M. Holmes) been appointed attorney for Mrs. Kinder?” interjected the judge. She didn’t know anything about that, Mrs. Kinder said. Miss Levy explained she was act-

the hands of congress rather than the administration.” The ambassador declared his belief that when America understands the “healthy development” of the new state of Manchoukuo, .and Japan’s purposes in Manchuria, the United States eventually will recognize the new state. “Manchoukuo is undergoing a healthy development,” he said. “The American people in time will realize that Manchoukuo is contributing to peace and security in the far east. I believe that recognition will come naturally when this development is appreciated in the United States.” He scorned press reports of an imminent Japanese-Russian war and said decidedly: “There is no such danger. We do not want to fight the Russians and I don't think they want to fight us. The political situation does not warrant a conflict. Morover, the latest news from Tokio, foreshadowing resumption of regotiations for Manchoukuo's purchase of the Chinese Eastern Railway from Russia, indicates a tendency to adjust amicably all question* pending between Japan, Manchoukuo and Russia.”

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Federal Proposal Offers Chance to Draft Long-Range Program, Slash Rates; Two Possibilities Open. HOLDING COMPANY ABUSES CITED Generating Plants on Wabash, White Rivers Reported Feasible; Steam Units in Coal Fields Also Proposed. BY WALKER STONE Times Staff Writer WASHINGTON, Feb. 2.—An opportunity for Indiana to work out a long-range program for utilization of its electric power resources is offered through the nation-wide power survey now being conducted by the Federal Power Commission. With a fund of approximately $240,000 to spend, tha FPC is setting up a staff of engineers and market analysts to examine available data and report on the electric power resources of the nation and the probable future market for electrical current in all sections of the country.

The FPC as yet has not directed its attention to the power possibilities in the midwest, where the business of manufacturing’ and distributing electrical energy has grown up over the years without plan or correlation. However, it is likely that before the survey is completed the states of Indiana, Illinois and Ohio will receive special attention. In these POLICEMAN SLAIN, 3 SHOT BY BANDIT Youthful Quartet Obtains SIO,OOO Loot. By United Prext, ■ ( NEEDHAM, Mass., Feb. 2.—A policeman was slain and three other men were shot today when four young unmasked bandits, all armed, held uP the Needham Trust Company in the business district and escaped with SIO,OOO in cash. The policeman, Forbes McLeod died of a stomach wound. Names of another policeman and a fireman were placed on the danger list. A bank employe, the fourth victim, probably will recover. Two bank employes, taken as hostages to protect the fleeing robbers, later were freed, unharmed.

ing as Mrs. Kinder’s attorney and that she would like the court’s permission for Mrs. Kinder to talk to Mr. Fogarty. “Harry wanted me to say a few things to Mr. Fogarty,” put in Mrs. Kinder. “Harry' Pierpont,” she retorted when Judge Baker asked “Harry who?” “We’re not concerned with Pierpont here,” said Judge Baker. “All I know is that he’s a gangster and desperate fellow.’’ Judge Baker finally consented to Mrs. Kinder conferring with Mr. Fogarty, who formerly was the employer of Pierpont’s sister. Judge Baker ruled, however, that a jailer would have to be present. A huge crowd jammed criminal court as time neared for the appearance of the sweetheart of the gunman Pierpont, whose exploits for months baffled the police of the midwest. Judge Baker did not set a date for Mrs. Kinder's formal arraignment, but indicated it would be held in two or three days. She was taken back to jail to await arraignment.

He emphasized Japan’s desire to maintain the “open door” in the new state. “We understand that Manchoukuo meticulously will observe the open door policy,” he said. “Japan is entirely in agreement with that and has no intention of monopolizing the Manchoukuo market. We want that part of the world stable, orderly and peaceful.” He dismissed suggestions that Japanese trade competition, which created serious tension with Great Britain, is or will became an acute question between Japan and the United States. “It is true,” he said, “that at one time there was some talk in America about Japan’s competition in minor fields such as rubber goods, electric bulbs and bric-a-brac, but our trade relations are complementary, centering largely on our purchases of American raw cotton and our sales of silk to the United States. Nor is there sharp commercial competition between us in third countries, where we normally 3ell different commodities.”

HOME EDITION' PRICE TWO CENTS Outside Marion County, 3 Cents

states, electricity rates are exceptionally high, and it generally is reasoned that the consumption of power can not be stimulated further until some method has been worked out whereby the rates can be reduced. In those states, the abuses of giant | holding companies that have seized ! control of the small power distribu- | tiot? agencies for stock-jobbing purposes have been especially flagrant, Tl.e only state in which the FPC’s power survey staff already is at work is New Hampshire. That is due to the personal interest taken by Governor Winant, who lost no time in soliciting the aid of FPC. Governor Winant, aided by a militant state power commission, has I taken steps to make immediate use i of whatever facts are disclosed by 1 the FPC experts. Two Possibilities Offered The New Hampshire state administration is aggressively intent upon securing for the citizens and the industries of the state their lowest possible power rate. If and when the FPC experts tackle the power problem in Indiana, it is likely they will direct their attention to two possibilities. First will be the possibility of ' generating cheap hydr oe 1 e ctric ; energy on the upper branches of the Wabash and White rivers. Exhaustive surveys of the power pos--1 sibilities of the Wabash and White rivers already have been made by army engineers in connection with flood control studies. A voluminous report that, on the whole, takes a favorable view of the economic feasibility of extensive hydroelectric development of those two streams is now in the files of the chief of engineers. The topography of the hills of southern Indiana, where the east fork of the White river rises, was found by the army engineers to be particularly well suited for construction of large reservoirs that will be useful both to impound flood waters and generate water power. Steam Plants Suggested Second will be the possibility of constructing central steam generating plants in the coal belt of southeastern Indiana. In that region, a large number of once profitable coal mines either have been abandoned or now are operating at only a fraction of capacity. With this cheap coal, it may be possible for a large steam plant to generate electricity at cost so low that it can be transmitted long distances and laid down at the gates of municipalities at a charge less than the cost of manufacture by the small local units. Cities like Evansville, Terre Haute and Vincennes would offer the logical markets for power generated at such a central steam plant, while Indianapolis might avail itself of energy produced at a hydroelectric plant located on either fork of the White River or on the upper reaches of the Wabash. Rates Census Outlined The public works administration allotted $400,000 to the FPC for three purposes—to examine applications ior loans for municipal power plants, to conduct a survey of the cost of distributing electricity, and to conduct the national survey of power resources and markets. Allowing for the cost of the first two undertakings and deducting administrative expenses of the latter, approximately $240,000 is available for employing engineers to go into every section of the country and compile data on power resources and markets. It is possible that an electrical distribution cost survey might also be made_ in some of the cities in Indiana, but as yet no Indiana community has requested a survey. With the view of supplementing the FPC's survey of power resources, markets and distribution costs, Civil Works Administrator Harry L. Hopkins recently has inquired into the feasibility of a census of electricity rates over th® country to see how the rates compare with the schedule of rates to consumers fixed as a yardstick by the Tennessee Valley Authority. Agitation for a rate census was started by Senator George W. Norris (Rep„ Neb.) and Representative John C. Rankin (Dem., Miss.), TV A backen.