Indianapolis Times, Volume 44, Number 164, Indianapolis, Marion County, 18 November 1932 — Page 22

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Talking It Over BY JOE WILLIAMS

NEW YORK, Nov, 18 —Not precisely the oldest in history,, the Yale-Harvard football rivalry still stands out as the most picturesque and most dramatic In America. Broadly amusing to impious outsider*, the fact persists that neither of these teams recognizes a defeat as such unless inflicted by the other. Thus it is that Yale and Harvard come up to their final game of the season Saturday—the fifty-first of their series—as emotionally keyed up as if they were battling for national honors. ~A. b r lef J* lanc • their records Is eufftclent to show that this Is hardly the case, "i* .5* ? 'J' on only on * * ai ne *ll season ?P and th*t troth a suo-normai Dartmouth Umm. Harvard was massacred by Artny. “P"* ,T e . re . beaten *>y Brown. Tne coldlfehnlc,arl * tate them as average run ot mine teams. Nevertheless there will be close to 70.000 5f, 00 i e i. tn th Vale bowl when the two rivals line up tor the kick-off. This Isn't quite a sell put. The fact Is there was a public sale of tickets this year for the first time in a decade. The mixed wool com--2"* "* re invited to come in and 1,1 In (tie with the royal raccoons. But 70 000. or even 60 000. will set a sea*?r *be east, and, considering one thing and another, it is an amazing total, it is doubly amazing when you consider the mediocrity of the teams and the absence of the championship allure. a a a YOU hear the technicians scoff: ‘ Yale and Harvard? Why,, they would be pushovers for Michigan, Brown, Auburn or Southern California. Those birds don’t play football.” a , yb *, not j But Yale and Harvard men, deliciously deluded, think they do and whenever they come together there is a ,t n VL ndou J Sobering of the loyalists, whether the teams are titanic or terrible makes little difference. It la still the Blue •gainst the Crimson. -T*- 1 * '*•, ot courM - * splendid thing, as fidelities In sport are measured, a thing that reflects credit on the universities ana the alumni. , After all, tradition and ivy clad fttadlum walls seem to represent a more secure investment than a poinf-a-minute lootball team recruited over night for box office purposes. I have noticed that when the point-a-minuters cease to click there ia nobody in the stands. Except among the undergrads and the old grads there is no great interest in which team wins Saturday's game, and for obvious reasons. I think Harvard probably rates a bit higher on the strength of its come back against Holy Cross last A Jter th . crushing rout bv Army. That the come back was organized mainly by reserves would seem to make the Crimson prospects all the brighter. man YALE won the annual game last year, when Albie. Booth executed a drop kick from the 14-yard line after one of his long passes, thrown to Barres, had put the team in scoring position. The kick came in the last three minutes of play and for that reason it was touched with the magic of drama. It was the last game for Booth and likeas*'. K* m e for Barry Wood, the great Harvard quarter hack. Dating back j da X ß, their personal rivalry started, Booth had never won a decision over Wood. The gods waited until the very last to deal the midget in Blue a winning hand. &b. ev were in a perverse mood that day •When the game ended, the brilliant Wood ™ s . wallowing in the mud on his own goal line with three Yale men sitting on fils neck, a position in which even hts Phi Beta Kappa key could do him little good. GAINER, CONRAD DRAW NEW HAVEN, Conn., Nov. 18.— A1 Gainer, New Haven light heavyweight, battled to a ten-round draw with Norman Conrad of Wilton, N. H„ New England champion, here Thursday night. Four Events on Tonight’s Card New faces are featured on tonight’s weekly grappling program at the Armory here. Four events are carded, the first starting at 8:30 p. m. Two newcomers will clash in the main event, when Tony Laborlia, Italian middleweight, hooks up with Chief Little Wood, Oklahoma Indian, in a two-falls-out-of-three ruckus. David Dooley be-whiskered middleweight and Carl (Loni Chaney, meet in .the semi-windup joust of one fall or 30 minutes. Another newcomer here. Jack Johns of Kansas, will test Ed Baker, local 165pounder, in the second frav, while in the opener two local Jack Scott and Omer Price, will tangle for one lall or 15 minutes. Wayne Vinson will Teferee.

State H. S. Title May Hinge on South Bend-Elkhart Tilt

BY DICK MILLER Although many state high school grid teams had their moleskins in the mothballs before the snow began to fall this week, one of the most important struggles in interecholast|fc circles is yet to be played. No more important contest could be arranged than the Central of South Bend-Elkhart game in South Bend Saturday for the championship of the eastern division of the Northern Indiana Conference. Both teams have won five games, each in their division without defeat. Coach Elmer Burnhams South Bend Bears, who were awarded The Indianapolis Times trophy ••Triumph” last year and generally •was recognised as state champions, has a record of nine wins and no ties for the present season. Coach Chelsea Boone has directed his Elkhart Blue Blazers through

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0 Hara Sans won their initial same of tfie season, trouncing Indianapolis Railny five, 42 to 17. Mack, with six field goals, and Sanders and Reath with four each led the scoring lor the winners, ■with Knelling. Sans floor guard, playing a fine floor game. The rivals were tied at 11-all at naif time. A fast-breaking offense in the last half gave Sans the edge. Sans tackle Anderson national guard team at Brookside gym next Wednesday. For games write H. L. Hustedt. 1130 North Dearborn street or call Ch. 4253-W. Rilev Cubs won three games this week, defeating Christamore Comets. Christamore Flashes and W. A. U. P. Cubs would like to schedule games next with teams having access to gyms. Cubs play in the 17-19-year-o!d class. Call Belmont 0117 between & and 6 p. m., ask for Harry Davis. Six teams will perform In the Em-Roe Commercial League, organised Thursday niht. Thgv are Printers. Pingans, Lee and jav. South Side Turners. Holy Cross, B. A O. Railroad. All games wIU be played Tuesday night ; gt Pensray gvm, the first game at 7:30, the second game at 8:30. ana the last same at 9:30. The league will open next Tuesday, and will play ten consecutive Tuesday nights. A list of all eligible players must be in the hands of the secretary by Saturday. Car Stone and Xlen Kline have been selected as officials for the league. The C. *. Pauley Printers defeated flicero Merchants in a hard fought game, 7 to 13. Saturday night. Paulevs will play HoosJer Athletic Club team and the Woodaide M. E. will play Peoples Motor Coach' at Pennsy gym For games with Paulevs write B. Thiesing. 243 South Temple avenue, or phone Drexel 3031 after p. m. and ask for Roy. A girlsteam is wanted to play Saturday night. Real Bilk, notice. Opening round of the Riverside Olympic Club Wednesday League was featured bv a hard-fought battle between Olympic Buddies and the Indianapolis Buddies with the Olympics winning. 13 to 10! Oyaipic A. C. dropped Question Marks,

HOOSIER ELEVENS SET FOR IMPORTANT TUSSLES

Purdue and I. UReady ‘Bucket’ Awaits Winner of Annual Classic at Lafayette. By Timet Special LAFAYETTE, Ind., Nov. 18. —’That ‘‘Old Oaken Bucket” will go on the blcck again here Saturday, and will be carried off by the highest scorer in Saturday’s Indiana Purdue gridiron classic. Hoosierland’s Big Ten twins were all set today for their annual pageant in Ross-Ade stadium at 2 p. m. Saturday. On paper, the unbeaten Boilermakers are decided favorites. But an inspired Crimson eleven, boasting a powerful 200-pound line, is expected to make the struggle one of th£ greatest of the long series. Great Lines Collide A slippery gridiron will work in favor of the down-state collegians, since it will hamper Purdue’s flashy running attack. Featuring the battle will be the struggle between two brilliant forward walls. Purdue has not been scored on through the line this season. Indiana battled Michigan's huskies to a standstill. The bone-crushing Horstman and fast-stepping Hecker and Purvis will carry the Boilermaker’s scoring hopes, with Hecker and Purvis and either Pardonner or Peelle handling the aerial display. Moss Gets Test Paul Moss, brilliant all-America candidate, will be on the receiving end of most of the tosses, and is expected to wage a great kicking battle with Edmonds and Jones, the Hoosier hooters. Billy Hayes, I. U. coach, plans to play a waiting game, and is starting a revamped back field strong on defense. Dauer and Sawicki will be at half backs, with the speedy Veller at quarter and the powerful’ Jones at full back to do most of the ball lugging. Opasik the passer, Stickann, Saluski and Babb, speedy half backs, and the plunging Edmonds will be held in reserve. Hold Final Drills Both teams will be at the peak for this game, although Indiana will miss Bill Rehm, star tackle, and Purdue may be forced to do without the full-time services of Paul Pardonner, star quarter back, due to injuries. Purdue had only a light signal drill Thursday, while Indiana indulged In a forty-five minute practice session in the snow. Purdue’s final hope of winning or sharing the Big Ten title will be at stake. The Kizermen must defeat Indiana to take advantage of a Minnesota tie or win over Michigan to figure in the conference flag picture.

Cruising in Sportland—with Eddie Ash

CHRISTY WALSH’S interview with Lou Little, Columbia university coach, and dramatizations of highlight plays from two games of Saturday, Nov. 12—the TulaneKentucky and Minnesota-Wisconsin struggles—will be among the features of the All-America Football Show to be broadcast tonight over the WABC-Columbia network, including WFBM, Indianapolis, 8 to 8:30. Musical selections by Rich’s band and Kostelanetz’s male chorus will include college songs of Utah, Nebraska, Texas Christian Louisiana State, Union, Oberlin, Columbia, Illinois, Princeton and Amherst. A final feature of the program will be Walsh’s list of All-

ten games without defeat, although they were held to a scoreless tie by Mt. Carmel, 111, comwtition against league rival* South Bend holds a slight edge on score comparison but this will mean nothing Saturday when the two teams clash, the outcome of which mav carry with it the state championship. Washington of East Chicago and Hammond are tied for the leadership of the western division of the northern conference with four games won and one lost. Emerson of Gary upsetting the Senators last week. 20-6, Waashington plffvs its city rival. Roosevelt, this week and coaoh Frank Cash is confident of victory while Hammond must tackle Horace Mann ofGary and things are not so bright for Karl Hufllne s bovs. In the event both win it is felt the title will be awarded Washington as it defeated Hammond two weeks ago in the only defeat for Hammond. Central of South Bend travels to White Plains. N. Y., on Thanksgiving to olav an intersectional tame and this will throw the settlement of the northern conference championship game between the two divisional winners until after that If South Bnd defeats Elkhart Saturday, Muncie is claiming the state title and wants a game with South Bend or any team of the north claiming the title. Coach Walter Fisher's Bearcats have been undefeated, but tied bv both Loganspert and Kokomo in a ten-game schedule.

21 to 14, while Crimson Cubs won from South Side Bearcats, 27 to 20. The Olympic Club League of eight teams will begin a fourteen-game schedule Sunday with the News Blue Streaks meeting the Bluestein A. C. club in the first game at 1 p. m. R. O. C. will battle Riverside Flashes at 2 p. m.; Woodside A. C. will clash with the Olympic A. C. at 3. and the Olympic Buddie will meet Question Marks. The Woodside A. C.s deny thev were defeated by the Central Avenue M. E. five as was announced Thursday. The A. C.s declare it was the Woodside M. E.s that plgyed the Centrals. It is said there is no connection between Woodside M. E.s ayd Woodside A. C.s. Dininger made eight field goals to lead the W I. Basketeers in a 24-'to-22 victorv over the W. A. U. P.s. For games with Basketeers call Lincoln 3997, or writ* Jack Ross, 1403 Nordyke avenue. The Mt. Gilead church has organized a fast net team to play road tilts. The team will be made up chiefly of former high school stars. Fast teams having ac- **£.* ‘ re , sskfd t 0 Ret in Touch “ a . , Tu J rl ”. R R 1 Mooresville, Ind. Mt. Gilead also would like to enter a league playing week-day night games.

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Oregon State and Fordham i * Collide in Eastern Feature

By United Brest NEW YORK, Nov. 18.—The outcome of Saturday’s intersectional clash between Fordham and Oregon State may give the football experts an indication of what to expect-if an eastern team plays Southern Primo Choice Over Santa By United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 18.—Two ring giants will clash at Madison Square Garden tonight when Primo Carnera of Italy opposes Jose Santa of Portugal in the ten-round main event. Camera, 6 feet 6 inches tall and weighing 260 pounds, is a 2-to-l favorite to beat Santa, who stretches 6 feet 8 inches and scales 251 pounds. The Italian “man mountain” is favored because he has campaigned more regularly in this country and has faced sterner opposition.

America ratings for games of Nov. 12. ft tt U The story of the longest gridiron run of the current is worth repeating here for Hoosier fans to guffaw over, It was a 200-yard run. twice the length of the regulation football Held aqd was made before a crowd of 30,000 at the MinnesotaWisconsin game. The spectacular run won’t go in the record books, however, because no points were scored—only a lot of laughs that helped warm the freezing spectators. After McGuire ran ninety yards for Wisconsin for a touchdown the Badgers and Gophers lined up again following the kick-off. Suddenly a scared rabbit darted from behind the Wisconsin end zone, speeded straight down the field one hundred yards across the Minnesota goal line, reversed and skipped its way back again straight down the field for a second 100-yard dash and across the Wisconsin goal line and, then out into the brush. The teams held up play and the crowd roared as the cottontail performed. ft ft ft CHARLIE GRIMM, Chicago Cubs’ manager, and William Veeck, Bruin president, have come out against the lowering of the player limit in the National League. They want it to stand et twenty-three. Grimm says the present limit is just right for any club that figures to be in the running, for it allows nine pitchers, three catchers, six inflelders and five outfielders. Therefore, any "depression” move to cut the size of squads will be fought hard by Chicago, and it’s a good guess no change will be made ft ft St Grimm is spending a ouiet winter. He does not go in for hunting and fishing and prefers to remain at his home, work around the house and obiain exercise by long walks. Naturally, he is on the lookout to bolster his team and bis club will supply the finances if he can swing deals for a star lefthanded pitcher and a slugging outfielder. Grimm seems to be satisfied with his 1932 mound regulars despite their poor showing in the world series. Bud Tinning will bp given a chance as a starting hurler next spring and Grimm has a hunch Lynn Nelson, recalled from the Coast League, will come through. ft ft ft IN the five years during which Dr. Spears coached football teams at the University of Minnesota, the Gophers never lost a game to Wisconsin. Now that Dr. Spears is coaching at Wisconsin, maybe the Gophers will not win any more games from the Badgers: Certainly the doctor got a good start toward turning the tables when his Badger eleven set Minnesota back recently, 20 to 13. The doctor’s team has lost just one game this year, and that to Furdue by a score of 7 to 6. HEINIE M ANUSH* Washington outfielder, may be seen back with the Detroit Tigers next year, it is rumored. He resides in De-

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California in the New Year’s Rose bowl classic. Fordham’s Rams gave the Pacific coast the most violent shock since the San Francisco quake by beating St. Mary’s Galloping Gaels, 14 to 0. The Gaels were one of the far west’s strongest teams. If Fordham can roll up a good score against the Oregon State Beavers Saturday, it may prove that the St. Mary’s result was no mistake and that eastern huskies, even fair teams like Fordham, are playing right smart football. Moreover, Paul Schissler’s Beavers have had personal combat with Southern California's mighty Trojans this season and held them to a 10-0 Trojan victory. Fordham is not the strongest team in the east. Coach Cavanaugh’s Rams were beaten 19-13 by Michigan State, and toppled 3-0 by little Boston college. Fordham’s record is not as good as that of Colgate or Brown, the two contenders who will battle it out on Thanksgiving day for the eastern championship and possibly the trip to Pasadena.

troit, was a batting pupil of the great Ty Cobb and was a popular Bengal a number of years ago. It is said Detroit fans never approved the deal that sent Manush away to the St. Louis Browns, who transferred him to Washington later. He is a fornjier American League batting champion. It is reported the Senators are willing to part with Heinie if the Tigers make an attractive offer. tt ft tt Charlie Schmidt, the old catcher who died in Arkansas recently, was one of the most courageous backstops In big league history. Injuries seldom kept him out of action and once he played through a world series with a broken finger. Schmidt was the first catcher to make four assists in a world series game, 1998, Tigers and Cubs. Schmidt also was the first receiver io start two double plays in one game of a world series, 1909, and the mark held up until 1921 when Wallie Schang tied it, playing with the Yankees. Schmidt was a particular friend and adviser of Ownie Bush when the little Hoosier went to the majors as a kid shortstop with Detroit.

Senator Hodge Is Sold for $1,600 at Harness Auction

Approximately 250 harness racing horses were sold during the threeday auction sale which ended Thursday at the state fairground. Prices dropped from last year’s figures, but the sale was reported a success. A successful bid of $1,600 for Senator Hodge, the brilliant 2-year-old prospect, topped Thursday’s prices, John Dagler, former Indiana trainer, now residing in Allentown, Pa., making the purchase. Three record members from the consignment of Doc Parshall also brought good prices, but brood mares and untested yearlings again were sold for low bids.

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THE executive committee of the American Association held an all-day pow-wow lasting into the night at Perry stadium here Thursday, discussed league affairs and organized important plans for the 1933 campaign. Measures discussed wfere of a retrenchment nature chiefly, but were not made known and will not be given publicity until a meeting of all A. A. club owners is held at Columbus, 0., on Dec. 5 in advance of the big winter convention of all minor leagues in the Buckeye capital Dec. 7, 8 and 9. The Perry stadium session was held behind closed doors. Members of the committee are shown in the above photo. Suggestions agreed upon by the committee will not become official unless the majority of A. A. club bosses accept them at the Columbus gathering. The league is harried by the situation at Toledo. where the Hens are in receivership and without much promise of attracting a backer, now that the Cleveland Americans have withdrawn support. The American Association hit anew low financially as a whole in 1932 and the magnates are bending all efforts toward recapturing attendance and paring pay rolls until the business depression lifts. Only three A. A. clubs escaped heavy box office losses this year.

Luzar Elected Purple Captain members of Washington’s city high school football ~•npionship'squad' were awarded y letters Thursday by Henry - :.-ie, coach. Louis Luzar, brilliant center, was elected captain by his team-mates for the 1933 campaign. Six- members of the Purple cross-country team also received letters at the banquet Thursday, given by the Minute Men, senior boys’ organization. The sweater winners were: Football—Warren. Burns. Mears. Myers. Dezelan. Baumbach. Minkner. Zunk. Brown Yovanovich, Findell. Otto, Luzar. Greely, Cherry. Howard. McTarsnev. Totton, MacDonald. RadcliSe. Fidget-. Kasnak and Cassell. Cross-Country—Kemp. Akens, Borski, Smith. Loeper and Mills. TOMMY SCOREsIkT O. SACRAMENTO. Cal., Nov. 18.— Young Tommy. 117-pound Filipino battler, scored a technical knockout win over Hillo Hernandez, 120, Mexico, in the seventh round here Wednesday.

Two of the best offerings booked here, Gregor Wilson and Scott Wilson, two star trotting youngsters, from H. W. Copress (Greenville, O.) stable, failed to arrive. H. M. Parshall paid S7OO for Hal Abbe, speedy 3-year-old, and Fred Egan of Lexington, Ky., bid S6OO for the juvenile Debutante. Charles Martens of Belgium purchased Volute, another 3-year-old, for $525, and Bertha’s Signal went to Ray Dahlinger of Dearborn, Mich., for SSOO. Taylor Thom was purchased by Charles Isreal of Kansas City for $4lO, and Bonnycastle was sold to H. D. Sheppard of Columbus for S4OO.

Wabash Is Tiger Foe Annual Battle Is Regarded Tossup; Wheaton Ends Career. By Timet Special GREEN CASTLE, Ind., Nov. 18.— Their past defeats this season foTgotten, Wabash and De Pauw will tangle here Saturday, and the winner will call the campaign a success. Both have met with several reverses and will enter Saturday’s action with the outcome regarded as a toss-up. It will be the thirty-sixth meeting of the Hoosier foes. They first met in 1889, Wabash has won nineteen tilts, De Pauw thirteen and three were ties. De Pauw will have full strength for the battle, which will mark the final collegiate appearance of Don Wheaton, one of the mid-west’s outstanding half backs. Five othei seniors will perform for the Tigers —Pope and Williams, ends; Shirey, guard, and Beler and Stout, reserve backs. Wabash will be handicapped ,by the absence of two or three veterans. Pete Vaughan, popular Scarlet mentor, has made several shifts in his lineup this week in an effort to replace H. Powers, Muller and Kutz, all on the hospital list. They may be able to see part-time action, however. De Pauw won the 1931 battle, 13 to 7, after one of the usual Tiger- ! Scarlet bitter struggles. Greyhounds to Play Anderson Indiana Central cagers open their home campaign at University Heights' gym Saturday night, facing Anderson college, whom they defeated, 49 to 15, in the opening tilt of the season last week at Anderson. Coach Harry Good expects to use his entire squad of twenty pastimers in the game. Spurgeon, Emig, De Jernet, Swan and Swank form the varsity lineup, while Eiler, McKenzie, Quackenbush and McCarty* are freshmen who have been outstanding contenders to date.

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He doesn’t get his name in the headlines, because his job is blocking. but Hilary Sawicki, huskyhalf back, is one of the steadiest and most dependable backs in the big group which Billy Hayes, Indiana U. mentor, will have available for Saturday’s game with Purdue. Sawicki is a junior, and will be at the right half back assignment at the opening whistle.

Indiana State Game Delayed By Times Special TERRE HAUTE. Ind., Nov. 18.— Indiana State's final football game of the season, scheduled here tonight with Evansville college, has been indefinitely postponed, A. L. Strum, athletic director, announced today. Snow, cold weather and road conditions were given as the reasons for the postponement. The game may be played next week, Strum said, but no definite date his been selected. COLLEGE GRID SCORES THURSDAY Heidelbere. 6. John Carroll. 0. North Texas Teachers. 20; Trinity. 0. Bacone. 27; Eastern Oklahoma. 7. Jefferson. 26; Phillips. 8.

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Irish ‘Fear’ Navy Crew Middies to ‘Shoot Works’ Against Notre Dame at Cleveland. NOTRE DAME NAVY. i Koskv L. E Murray Krause L. T Brooks * Harris L, G. * Reedev (Cl I Robinson C Harbold ! Oreeney • R- G Burn* ! Kurth R T Kane Host (C) R- E - Pray Jaskwhtch vj B Slack Koken L H Chung-Hoon Sheeketski R H Borrles Melinkovlch .... F B Campbell

By Timet Special ' CLEVELAND. Nov. 18. —It may be just another game to most fans, but to Hunk Anderson and his Notre Dame warriors, the battle with Navy here Saturday promises to be one of the toughest tussles of the year. Navy is at the peak of its form, after a slow start, showing surprising strength in its last two starts. Rip Miller, former Irish all-America star and now head coach of the Middies, has brought his squad to the top for the Notre Dame and Army games. Against the Ramblers, the Sailors are expected to rise to the heights and play brilliant, reckless and daring football. They will hscye a week’s vacation before the Army tilt and will “shoot the works” against the Irish. Notre Dame naturally is a heavy favorite. But Coach Anderson is worried about his running attack, which failed against Northwestern and Kansas and couldn’t click in scoring territory against Pitt. The N. D. mentor plans to take no chances, and will start his varsity lineup. Neither team is handicapped by injuries. The rival squads arrived today. More than 60,000 fans will witness Saturday’s tilt in Cleveland Municipal stadium. Kick-off will be at 2 p. m. eastern time (1 p. m., Indianapolis). BE A RsHrISH MAY" PLAY BERKELEY. Cal., Nov. 18.— University of California athletic authorities admitted today they were considering negotiations for a game with Notre Dame’s football team in 1933. Negotiations for the contest have not yet been definitely concluded, it was said.