Indianapolis Times, Volume 44, Number 141, Indianapolis, Marion County, 22 October 1932 — Page 8

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Talking It Over BY JOE WILLIAMS NEW YORK, Oct. 22—Word from the far west la that Pop Warner has a football team at Stanford this year and that any team that beats him will have to be good. Today, Pop Warner's team goes against Southern California in what probably i* the country’s stand out game of the day and the betting favors him for the first time in several years. You see. Pop Warner has not been having things all his own way of late, so when you hear that his team is picked to win over Southern California, national champions a year ago, it is significant. Moxtlv. I think it is significant of the fact that Poo Warner has Jmea himself un some football players. So many myths have been built un around Pop Warner that ncooie had begun to believe he could win without football players. In a wav. 1 thinic Pop Warner contributed to these myths. At anv rate I do not recall that he did anything to discourage them. I am referring, of course, to those histories of the game which depict Poo Warner as the founder, the hlglpnest and the last word. I believe the figures show that it has been six years since Pop Warner won a ball game from Southern California. That's a long time between snake dances. Witn all his black magic and sparkling genius he couldn t devise an attack that would win from a better team. So the conclusion must be accented, no matter how reluctantly, that Pop Warner is lust another football coach, legends often grow out of longevity. A similar example was Cornelius McGillicuddv. When he was winning championships in the prewar days he was .looked upon as a mircle worker. He not. only could lead players but he could make them. All he needed was a sufficient number of suits to go around. This was idiotic, of course, and as soon as McGillicuddv s stars moved to other cities his team did a nose dive that carried him to the basement of the Amertcan League. To climb back where he hao been before. McGillicuddv tried out, 300 players and spent more town half a million dollars. And in between times, managers you never heard of were winning world series honors. an n

YET I suppose it is possible to have the players, in football or baseball, and still not win. After all you can not go out there and do their thinking for them. I recall a couple of years ago when Southern California beat Stanford, 41 to 12, Pop Warner was quoted as saying: “The defeat didn't surprise me. This year’s team is the dumbest I ever coached —and I have coached a lot of dumb ones.” As everybody knows Pop Warner ts the originator of the Warner system. This is an intricate system involving A. B. and C. formations and there are the wingbacks, the unbalanced quarter back and all that sort of thing. If the fat headed sophomores can t get it, is it fair to blame the coach? I wouldn't know. But if I were on a college team and my coach came out in the newspapers and called me a half wit iwell what if it would be flattery?) I'd walk right up and sock him in the nose if it, was the. last, thing I ever did for my dear old alma mater. After which I would spend the rest of the season pegging grown up tomatoes at him from the 50yard line. ~ , I never heard John J. McGraw publicly arraign one of his ball players for making a boner. And Joseph Biceps Jacobs went far out of his way to justify the dumbest fight, ever made by a fighter when Max Schmeling lost to Jack Sharkey. a a a DESPITE the fact that the odds are against him. Howard Jones, who coaches the Southern California team, does not seem to be taking the issue with his customary seriousness. To those who are familiar with the Jones technic, this is bewildering. I mean to ask where are the detectives? On the eve of a major contest, Jones has been known to countenance the assigning of detectives to the whereabouts of his players. To see that nobody harms them? Well, not exactly. You see you never can tell about your players. 9-h-h-h-h! They may even give your plavs away. ' One of the Southern California plavers last, year happened to admit an admiration for the way football was played at Notre Dame. This provoked dark suspicions. Was this fellow a traitor? To be sure that he wasn't the coaching staff had him tailed by a detective. As I remember the details, the young man was kept prisoner as a safeguard against a betrayal to Notre Dame. I have had mv 3 cents sav about this charming little incident before. Someone informed me It was just a campus prank. Nevertheless, the parents of the boy demanded an apology from the university president, which I believe was forthcoming I don't recall ever seeing Jones' explanation of the affair. Possibly these things are beneath the dignity of a great college coach.

Important Tilts Today STATE COLLEGES Carnegie Tech vs. Notre Dame at Notre Dame. Indiana vs. Chicago at Chicago. Purdue vs. Northwestern at Evanston. Butler vs. Wabash at Crawfordsville Ihome-cominßi. Ohio Wesleyan vs. De Pauw at Greencastle i home-comine i Ball State vs. Franklin at Franklin (home cominßi. Earlham vs. Hanover at Hanover. Rose Polv vs. Evansville at Evansville. Indiana State Teachers vs. Charleston (111 i Normal at Charleston. St. Viator vs. Valparaiso at Valparaiso. OTHER GAMES Minnesota at lowa. Illinois at Michigan. Coe College at Wisconsin. Ohio State at Pittsburgh. Boston College at Marouette. Michigan State at Fordham. Drake at Creighton. lowa State at Missouri. Kansas Aggies at Oklahoma. Nebraska at Kansas. Armv at Yale. Dartmouth at Harvard. Navv at Princeton. Lehigh at Pennsylvania. Williams at Columbia. Syracuse at Penn State. Colgate at New York U. Loyola at Holy Cross. Southern California at Stanford. California at Washington. Washington State at Oregon State. Centenary at Southern Methodist. Auburn at Tulane. Georgia Tech at North Carolina. Georgia at Vanderbilt. V Mississippi at Alabama. \ Bavlor at Texas Aggies. Tennessee Polv at. Sewanee BELLIZZI SCORES TWICE

B;i Timm Special NEW YORK. Oct. 22.—'Two more victories were added to the sensational turf record of Little Dominick Bellizzi, young apprentice jockey, at the Empire City oval Friday. Bellizzi rode three winners on Tuesday and again on Thursday, and barely missed his third triple of the week Friday when Mama’s Choice finished second to Peacock Girl In the third race. The youth rode flagview to victory in the second race and Shoot in the sixth. BLUE RESERVES LOSE Bt/JTimc* Special LEBANON. Ind., Oct. 22.—Shortridge high school reserves filled an open date on the Lebanon schedule here Friday and dropped a 25 to 0 decision. The Tigers scored fourteen first downs, Shortridge two.

No Justice! Bu Timr Special Auburn. Ala.. Oct. 22, Some coaches get all the breaks —others none. When Alabama Poly (Auburn), one of the southland's best on the gridiron, lined up for action last week against Georgia Tech, the Auburn coach held Casey Kimbrell. ace half back, out of the game to rest him up for the important Tulane classic today. And Casey caught a cold sitting on the bench in the rain, which may keep him out of the lineup against the Green Wave.

A. A. CHIEFS FACE MENACING OPERATING PROBLEM

Heavy Salary Slashes, Short Season Planned Association Meeting in Chicago Believed Most Important in History of League; Toledo Situation Has Owners Guessing; Blues and Saints Seek Aid. By Timet Special CHICAGO, Oct. 22.—Bad news for American Association ball players was being put together here today when representatives of the eight clubs gathered at the Congress hotel for a special meeting to discuss ways and means to reduce operating expenses for the 1933 season. Player salaries will be slashed all down the line and the schedule probably will be reduced from 168 games to 154, shortening the season by two weeks. President T. J. Hickey announced before the league went into session that four of the club owners were in favor of a shorter schedule and that the eight club bosses expressed a unanimous opinion that, heavy pay roll cuts will have to be made.

Elston Takes Second Place By United Press LATONIA, Ky„ Oct. 22.—Gilbert Elston, brilliant young jockey now staging a comeback, today ranked second among American riders of 1932 in booting home winners^ He scored Friday at Latonia on Ridge Lady, his 163d triumph since Jan. 1. Hank Mills is leading the pack with 178 winners, while Silvio Coucci, young eastern apprentice, ranks third with one less than Elston. Elston came back recently after being out of action for several weeks due to serious injuries received in a turf accident. Vet Collegiate Coach Retires By United Press PRINCETON. N. J., Oct. 22. Kene Fitzpatrick, the “grand old man of track and field,” has retired as track coach and trainer of Princeton athletes after a coaching career of forty-two years, twentytwo of which were spent at Princeton. Fitzpatrick, who is 68 years old, expressed a desire to retire to a “less strenuous mode of life.” He was one of the pioneers in intercollegiate sports, and also served at Yale and Michigan.

Two-Year-Olds Tangle Oct. 29 By Times Special LATONIA, Ky., Oct. 22 Majority of racing interest in the turf world was centering on the thirteenth of the Kentucky Jockey Club stakes, although the classic is not down for decision until Oct. 29. Carrying an approximate value of $35 000, the event will be decided over a mile for 2-year-old sprinters only. Technique, who carried H. P. Headley’s colors to victory in the Breeders’ Futurity, holds favorite in the lineup. Other participants include Caterwaul and The Darb. Both will be shipped from the east to carry C. V. Whitney’s colors, while the remaining field will be made up of the star 2-year-olds of the season.

Central Raps Oaks Eleven Hi/ Timm Spec in l DANVILLE, Ind., Oct. 22.—50 l Leitzman's Danville Normal eleven snapped a four-game losing streak here Friday with a 19 to 3 triumph over Oakland City college in the annual home-coming struggle. The Oaks captured a three-point edge in the first quarter on Coots field goal from the 20-yard stripe. Allbright registered Danville's first touchdown with an off-tackle smash in the second period, and in the third quarter. Scudder gafloped fifty-five yards and Gross knifed through guard for two more markers. Gross counted one extra point. Set to Aid Trinity in Feature With St. Pats

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Ludv Stanfield IN the local amateur classic on Sunday, in the senior league division of the Em-Roe Football Association, Holy Trinity A. As will battle the St. Pat’s at Pennsy park at 2:30. The rivals are undefeated. Louis (Ludy) Stanfield, Trinity star, will be in action. Last Sunday, against Riverside Olympics, he intercepted a pass and ran eighty-five yards for a touchdown. helping his team win. 14 to 0. Perfect blocking by Joe Turk and Emmett Kinney paved the way for the long dash. . BASEBALL Polk's Milk and Omar Bakery nines tangle at Riverside No. 1 Sunday at 2 p. m. Skiles and Ziggler will form the Bakers’ bstterr, with Christopher and Atkins toiling for the Milk nine. Bakers have won nine of their last ten games. FOOTBALL Spades and Vagabonds clash Sunday afternoon at 2:30 at Spades' Aeld. Spades is Birt-Roe city champ-, and have not been defeated since 1930. A tough battle is expected.

Hickey admitted the A. A. attendance fell off 100,000 in 1932, and some observers assert the drop exceeded that figure. There also was a huge drop in gate receipts on account of the cut in price of bleacher seats. It was revealed that several of the magnates want player wages reduced as much as 25 pet cent. The situation at Toledo has the rhagnates guessing as a result of the Cleveland Americans withdrawing their financial support after losing about $50,000. It is said there is a chance, however, of Clevalnd taking over the Hens again if the Toledo receiver finds a way to reduce the amount of guarantee asked foi park rental and other operating items. Kansas City and St. Paul are other teams facing financial problems, although it is believed the Blues and Saints will be able to carry on. Both are endeavoring to connect up with big league clubs for backing. Taken from all angles, the A. A. evidently is in a precarious condition, and the meeting today is the most important in the history of the big minor circuit of the middle west.

Manual Aerial Rally Trims Tech in City Tilt, 12 to 7

Coming from behind after their east side rivals had counted in the opening minutes of play, Manual’s Redskins registered a 12-to-7 triumph over Tech in a city series encounter Friday. A sparkling aerial attack and brilliant play by Kleppe who also turned in a fine job of punting, gave Manual the edge in a thrilling battle. The victory snapped a twogame losing streak for Harry Painter’s south siders. Tech took a seven-point edge in the opening minutes of play when Pardue tossed a thirty-yard pass to

St. Pats and Holy Trinity in City Grid League Feature

An old gridiron rivalry will be reopened Sunday at Pennsy park, when St. Pats and Holy Trinity, two of the three unbeaten leaders in the Em-Roe Senior football league, tangle at 2:30 p. m. St. Pats have won three league starts, and the Trinities have won two and tied ohe. Lee and Jays also are unbeaten, but have been tied twice. Olympics, with one victory in three starts, battle the Lee and Jay eleven at Riverside. In the third senior loop tilt, R. O. C. and Ferndales tangle at Brookside No. 1. Three clubs tied for the Junior league lead also face hard tests. Holy Trinity Juniors and Boys

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IF the Purdue Boilermakers score against Northwestern today the modern record for consecutive football games played without being shut out will be toppled. The honor is held by Purdue and Notre Dame, each with thirty-five, the mark having been established by the Irish and then tied by Purdue last Saturday. The all-time noshutout record, including games thirty years ago, is held by Michigan. The Wolverines went from 1901 to 1906 before being blanked, scoring at least once in fifty-seven consecutive tilts. n tt It is said Tracy Cox, the local fistic pride, can not make the lightweight title limit of 135 pounds any more without off a leg.” The National Boxing Association has him rated No. 4 in its list of “first ten” lightweights, led by Tony Canzonerl, the champion. The Hoosier walloper evidently Is headed for the Junior welter class now. with a limit of 140 pounds. However, this division is of synthetic nature. The real welterweight division has a limit of 14* pounds. Cox has the punch of a welter, even when he was a featherweght, but he may be handicapped among the 147-pounders on account of a shortage of heighth. His scrap with Prince Saunders here Tuesday may determine whether he can take off tonnage and still box and punch. He was held to a draw by Saunders in a recent Chicago scrap and was bowled over once for a no-count knockdown. tt tt tt FRENZIED finance in the colleges has put a load around the neck of lowa university and other institutions of high standing. The professors were fooled by hoppedup prosperity, too. lowa built a $500,000 stadium seating 42,000 and a $500,000 fieldhouse to match during the nation-wide boom that followed the Florida corner lot and acreage crash. lowa City is .too short of population and is located too far away from population centers to tackle ventures of that magnitude. * n n The latest prominent baseball clubs to go into receivership as a result of unemployment are Toronto of the International League and Atlanta of the Sonthern Association. Toledo of the American Association Is an orphan again and is giving the '-ague directors sleepless nights. The situafion in the A. A. is said to be tense, but T. J. Hickey, president, said Friday the league positively will open next year, but he failed to offer a solution for the Toledo riddle.. Cleveland withdrew Its support and took awav all regular olavers except Butch Henline, catcher, and Pete Turgeon, infielder.

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Tracy Cox THE local indoor boxing season will open Tuesday night in the auto show building at the state fairground, and the featured performers will be Tracy Cox, Indianapolis’ hard hitter, and Prince Saunders, the highly-regarded Chicago Negro. They will meet over the ten-round route topping the Pontiac A. C. offering of thirty-six rounds, consisting of three ten-rounders and a six. A lot of heated rivalry has been stirred up in the Cox-Saunders scrap, owing to the close battle staged by them in the Windy City recently. In that match the decision was a draw, with Saunders scoring a knockdown for no count. Saunders is rated the better boxer and Cox the better puncher. Both are youngsters with much experience backing up their records.

Dischinger, lanky wingman, who galloped thirty yards to the goal line. Sommers sped around end for the extra point. Manual was forced to hold Tech on the 12-yard line a few minutes later, and then cut loose with a passing game. Walton tossed to Stuart for the first six-pointer in the second period, and the pair repeated in the third quarter for the winning marker. Both teams threatened again in the final period, but lacked scoring punch. Approximately 4 000 fans witnessed the game.

Club each have won two tilts and tied one, and will play at Pennsy park at 12:30. Wizards, also with two victories and a tie, face Riley Cubs at Riverside at 12:30. Brightwood and Ferndale Juniors are rivals at Brookside No. 1, while Crimson Cubs and Christamore tangle at Rhodius at 2:30. The City League bill, with all tilts starting at 2:30, pits Indianapolis Cubs against Beech Grove at Garfield, Oak Hill Flashes against Al's Service at Brookside No. 2, Spades against Vagabonds at Spades, and Midways against Bingo A. C. at Ellenberger.

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PRINCE SAUNDERS, flashy Negro boxer of Chicago, who will exchange punches with Tracy Cox at the Indiana state fairground Tuesday night, is rated one notch above the Hoosier mauler in one lightweight ratings published in the latest issue of the Ring, nationally known boxing magazine. Saunders is placed seventh, below Barney Ross, and Cox is given eighth position. Chicago fistic experts are picking Saunders to beat the Indianapolis pride in their second meeting, their first clash going to a draw. tt a a It is seldom that a “repeater” occurs in football, but Indianapolis has one grid lad who pulled the same heroics against the same team two years apart. Lndy StanHeld. a member .f the Holy Trinity A. A.s in the aenior division of the local amateur leagues, intercepted a pass last Sunday against the Riverside Olympics and sprinted eighty-five yards for a touchdown, the Trinities winning. 14 to 6. Two years ago Stanfield, playing with the same Trinities, intercepted a pass, ran the same distance for the same score against the same team in the last minute of play. Depression? what depression? Anyway, that is the way some people are going along. The other day the New York Yankees still had more than SB,OOO going begging of uncollected 1932 world’s series money on hand for the sixth game that wasn’t played. The fans owning those tickets apparently would vote for Babe Ruth for President. The Yankee business office has worked itself into a lather urging the customers to come in for their refund, but it looks as though the books will have to be kept open indefinitely. A ticket for a game that wasn’t played in the 1928 series showed up last week and a refund was made just the same. That was another fourstraight series, won by the Yankees over the Cardinals. Football Tilts on Air GAMES OF TODAY Carnegie Tech at Notre Dame. WKBF, Indian,'poll*: WSBT-WSAM. South Bend. Purdue at Northwestern, WBBM, WGN j>nd WMAQ, all of Chicago. '“'"’Army at Yale. NBC iWJZ) and CBS network. WLW, Cincinnati, will be included in the NBC chain on this broadcast. Dartmouth at Harvard, NBC (WEAF). Broadcast of eastern games will start at 12:45. midwest games at 1:45. Indianapolis Railways five would like to book a practice game for Mondav night with a team having access to a gym. Call Cherry 4395. ask for Crttchfleld, between -9:30 and 10:30 &- zn.

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Big Races on Laurel Card By Times Special LAUREL. Md.. Oct. 22.—Two important turf events, the Selima stakes and the Maryland handicap, were scheduled for decision here this afternoon. Eighteen star juvenile fillies were to participate in the Selima stakes, with a gross value of $30,000. Hal Price Headley's Technique held as a favorite to finish the mile gallop first. With ten eligibles named to start, the Maryland handicap for 3-year-olds and over, will carry a sio,ooo purse. The event will be decided over a mile and a quarter track. Gallant Sir, under the silks of Norman Church’s Norway stable, was the favorite despite a heavy impost. Grid Scores Friday COLLEGES Central Normal. 19; 'Oakland City, 3. Duke, 9; Wake Forest. 0. Emporia college, 6; Hays. 0. Salem, 15; Morris Harvey. 6. Warrensburg, 33; Wentworth. 0. Sul Ross, 14; Abilene Christian, 7. Missouri Valley, 14; Drury, 6. Central. 12: Culver-Stockton, 6. Montana Mines, 53; Montana Normal, 0. Jacksonville Teachers, 7; Rollins. 7 (tiei South Georgia Teachers, 8; Norman Park. 0. Wisconsin Mines. 26; Northwest. 0. Parsons, 13; Penn college iia.i, 12. Simpson. 41; Buena Vista, 0. McKendree, 20; Carbondale, 7. Oklahoma A. and M„ 14; Oklahoma City, 6. Bacone, 13; Northeastern Teachers, 7. Ruckhurst, 26; William Jewel, 6. Ellensburg, 14; Pacific Lutheran. 6. Pittsburgh Teachers, 12; Wichita, 0. Nebraska Wesleyan, 14; Doane, 6. Midland. 6: Cotner, 0. Birmingham Southern. 0; Centre, 0 (tie). King, 14; Lenoir Rhyne. 0. West Liberty. 26; Adrian. 0. Eastern Kentucky, 0; Union (Ky.), 0 (tiei. Detroit. 26: West Virginia. 13. West Virginia Wesleyan. 7: Duquesne 6 Temple. 14; Denver. 0. Dayton. 13; Marshall. 7. Georgetown Teachers, 19: Wittenberg. 7 John Carroll. 13; Mt. Union 0. Washington and Jefferson. 34; Xavier. 0. Baker. 7: Bethanv. 0. Loyola INew Orleans). 19; St. Louts, 0. St. Benedict’s. 58; Bethel. 0. Ottawa. 13: Kansas Wesleyan. 0. Oklahoma Baptists. 13; Phillips, 0. Western Union. 28; Nebraska Central, 0. Centre. 2: Birmingham Southern 0. Southeastern. 7; Central Teachers. 0. Washburn. 7: Haskell. 6. Phoenix. 18: Albuqueraue. 0. Southwest Texas Teachers. 12; Southwestern 'Texas!. 0. Stephen F. Austin. 13: Ouachita. 0. HIGH SCHOOLS Manual (Indianapolis i. 12: Tech (Indianapolis'. 7. v Bloomington. 12: Linton. 0. Lebanon. 25: Shortridge reserves (Indianapolis). 0. Horace Mann (Gary). 12: Emerson (Gary). 6. Washington (East Chicago). 14; Whiting. 6. Memorial (Evansville). 8: Central (Evansville). 0. Louisiana State Normal. 19; Lon Morris. 0.

Race Entries Saturday AT LAITREL First Race (claiming; 2-year-olds; five and one-hall furlongs! —Felrap, 112; Considerate, 112: Strolling Time, 109; Reservist. 112; Fair Crest, 109; Gala Time. 109; Pomposity, 112; Judge Judy, 112; Cruising, 112. Second Race (Maidens; 2-year-olds; mile and seventy yards!—Post Brigade, 112; Gambado, 112; Once, 112; Electric Gaff, 112; Inlander. 112; Even Stephen. 112; Band Wagon, 112; Pomposo, 112; Vote, 112; Union, 112. Third Race (claiming: all ages; handicap; six furlongs)—Evergold, 108 (a!Jack High, 128; Pair by Pair, 114; lalFinite. 105; Protractor, 105; Glorify, 98; Arras, 103; Okapi, lgO; Pilate, 120; Microphone. Ill; Springsteel, 109. (a)Geo. D. Widener entry. Fourth Race (claiming: 3-year-olds; Allies) —Two Tricks. 109; (alWelcoir* Gift, 110; (b)lseult, 114; (blßayagnes, 114; (alEasy Day, 119; (ciSunnv Queen,ll4; iciPonipalo, ill: Accent. 105; (diVolette, 118; Tickerv Tock, 114; Barnswallow, 119; (diStepsister. 107; Technique. 122; <b>Notebook. 114; Mintie. 110; letßrightshadow, 110; Swivel, 114; (e)Knights Gal, 114. (a)Greentree Stable entry. (bi Wheatley Stable & Belair Stud entry. (c) R. Coe entry. (and) V. Whitney entry. (e) Audley Farm entry. Fourth Race (claiming: 3-vear-olds: six furlongs!—Bovs Howdv. 105: Betty Derr, 116; Plumage. 113: Billv Jone*. 113; Come On 119: Thistle Ann. 118: Major Lanphier. 115. Fifth Race (handicap; 3-vear-olds; one and one-quarter milesi —Late Date, 100; Rehoboth, 105; Village Vamp. 95; Snap Back. 106: Mad Frump. 112; (alPolonaise. 104; Canron. 110; Dark Secret, 114; Gallant Sir. 117; ia(Osculator, 111. <a)W. R. Coe entry. Sixth Race (claiming; 3-year-olds; one mile and seventy yards!—Quarterdeck, 114; Miss Corinne, 108; Meridian Queen, 109; Jolly Pilot. 112: Justa Peak. 108; Hyman, 111; latLadfield. 114; Try It, 116; Speycrest, 110; Royal Ruffin, 120; Porphyry, 112; (aiUnencumbered, 107. (aiMrs. C. Chan and P. A. Markey entry.

Seventh Race (claiming: 3-year-olds; one and one-half milesi—Aunt Hopey, 105; Lucky Racket, 100: Just A King. 108; Misnomer, 113; Sam Pass. 113; Berber, 113; Battering Ram. 108: Ask Katie. 100; Kaffa, 105; Syriac. 118; Gully Jumper, 113; Little Stokes, 111; Golden Fairy. 105; Brandon Rose, 105; Angry Lass, 105; Gay Widower. 113. PLAN CHURCH LEAGUE Sunday School Basketball Circuit to Be Organized Monday. Plans for organizing a Sunday school basketball league will be completed at a meeting of team representatives Monday night in the Y. M. C. A., with Ross Clarke, physical director, in charge. Church teams expected to become I members immediately are Broad j Ripple Methodist; Memorial Presj byterian, Cicero, Ind.; Lutheran; Fountain Square Christian, New Bethel Baptist and the College Avenue Baptist. - WOODEN JOINS KAUTSKY FIVE The Kautsky A. C.s, last year’s stale independent champions, are hard at practice in preparation for the opening game of the season at Muncie early in November. Manager Kautsky has a fine hunchof former independent and college stars working out and hopes to announce his lineup the latter part of next week. Johnnv W'ooden. all-Americk floor guard at Purdue the last three seasons, will be with the club on week-end games. Early games have been booked with Jeffersonville. St. Louis Sugar Creeks and Akron Goodyear's squad, featuring Rex Moffett, former De Pauw star. Teams should address J. E. Matthews, 963 North Chester street or phone Cherry 4461-W. lor games.

Macks Cut Ed Rommel Vet Knuckle Ball Hurler Draws Unconditional Release. By Times Special PHILADELPHIA. Pa., Oct. 22. Another veteran has passed from Connie Mack's Philadelphia Athletics. Eddie Rommel, veteran righthanded knuckle ball pitcher, was given his unconditional release Friday by the veteran pilot of the A's. Rommel is a ten-year man, and since no major league club claimed him on waivers, he was entitled to his unconditional release. He has served with the A’s since 1920, and is about 36 years old. He started with Baltimore in 1917, but was released when injured. The next year he joined Newark of the International League. In 1920, he went to the A’s. His best year was 1922, when he won 27 and lost 13 for the seventhplace Macks. For the last three years he has been used as a relief pitcher. His best performance in 1932 was a seventeen-inning victory over Cleveland.

Pin Gossip BY LEFTY LEE Members of the Geisen Product ter m of the Washington League had the song book out after their series with Budweiser. and with good reason, for they rolled 3.010 and still lost two games, the Budweiser team counting 3,177 with scores of 1,091, 1,000 and 1,086. Scores of 600 were the rule rather than the exception during this set, Goodhue leading with a mark of 693 on games of 235, 224 r.nd 234. Bowen had 653; Kennedy, 664: Bohne, 639; Scherlng, 603; Eller, 608; Black, 628. and Hanna 619. Wheeler Lunch also won two games from Coca-Cola, a 629 by Wftnberly leading the Wheeler team to victory. Goldsmith tossed in a 605 count to lead the losing quintet. Bob Kelly, who has been setting a swift pace during the early season play, suffered a real „ slum P Friday night, rolling a mere 472. His teammates speeded up, however, and Schmitt Insurance won two from Hoosier Optical. Thomas was the reason Indiana Brake Service took three from Lilly Luggage, his total of 622 coming with counts of 178. 213 and 233. Newt Werner led City Candy to a triple win over King Indiana Billiards, the Candy team anchor rolling games of 218. 203 and 192 for a total of 613. A1 Streibeck. out for tne first time this season, showed a lack of practice, rolling a small 461. Johnson Chevrolet continued their good work in the City League on the Hotel Antlers drives, scoring 3,031 to lead the neid and win two games Irom Budweiser Coble, Meeker and Mahoney had totals of 643, 642 and 641 for Johnson, while Alford and Chrisney rolled 623 and 610 for the losers. Hotel Antlers found the pocket in their and pounded out a count of 1,140 that gave them a two-to-one edge over Welling & Cos. Koelllng stopped these boy* at 3,015 for the series, his 485 coming while his teammates were all over the 600 mark, Heckman rolling 649; Stemm, 645; Stevenson, 633. and Wheeler. 603. Rose Tire turned on Barbasol in the final to avoid a shutout at the har.ds of the speed boy. Don Johnson and Fehr led Baybasol with totals of 693 and 617, while Ray Fox and Bruder counted 644 and 603 for Rose Tire. . JJ? osier , came back with games of 1.014 and 1,020 after a poor start, but the Marotts also speeded up and copped the rubber by taking the final 1.034 to 1.020. Rassmussen rolled 638 for the Shoe team as Mills toppled 633 for Hoosier. American Legion games at the Antler drives resulted in a triple win for Mc-llvaine-Kothe and Haywood Barcus over Irvington and Bell Telephone, and an odd game win for Indianapolis Post from Bruce Robinson. With every member on the team passing the 500 mark the Geisen Product girls of the Block Optical League posted anew season’s record of 2,721. and won three games from Bowlet Cos. Geisen's games were 949. 890 and 882. Broich led the team with 585. rolling a real consistent, series, having scores of 192. 199 and 194. Dawson had 535; Pvle. 552; Fox. 547. and Kritsch. 502.

Miller and Maver had socres of 520 and 509 to offset a 545 by Burnett, and Geiger Candy took the rubber from Heidenreich Florists. Mueller’s 112 score was the reason Bowes Seal Fast lost one game to the Schenck team. McDaniels and Johns rolled 554 and 510 for Bowes, as Lawn counted 511 to lead the Schenck team. Lathrop and McKinnon rolled 515 and 514 for the Schndfder auintet, but their tram mates failed to help them and Hoosier Pete walked off with the odd game. Indianapolis Baseball Club sauad had Maas. Alexander and Shea hitting for totals of 534, 523 and 516. so they took two games from McGaw Insurance. The Kribs vs. Coca Cola match also resulted in an odd game victory, the Kribs team taking the Anal two. Withem. McAnlv and Tourney had totals of 503. 501 and 500 during this set. Two to one was the rule in the Central States plav. Coins and Commercials defeating catalogs and Baronials. Wray’s 602 topped this session. Insurance League results at Pritchett's showed Mutual Life and Western Adjustment taking three from Hoosier Casualty and Blue Goose, as Rough Notes and Indianapolis Life won two from Gregory & Appel and Reserve Loan. Appel starred during this plav. posting 233. 172 and 232 for a total of 637. Moore rolled 620 for runnerup honors. No 600 totals appeared in the A. C. E. S. series, Langbeins' 591 leading the Aeld. Team results showed a triple win for Jungclaus over Geiger-Peters, and a twogame win for Pierson-Lewis, Brant Bros, and the Star over Domestic Insulators. Architectural Club and Railroad Men’s Building and Loan. Harding street and Third Floor were “hot” during the Power and Light Company play, taking all three from Mill Street and Fourth Floor, as Fifth Floor wrestled victory from Morris Street two to one. The veteran Carter of the Harding Street team showed the boys a Aash of his old time form when he crashed a total of 618 with games of 202, 226 and 190. Next Friday night’s feature tilt in the Fountain Square Recreation League will be the battle between City Candy and Fall Citv Lager for the league lead, these teams being in a deadlock for top honors at present. City Candy had tneir entire team over the 600 line, during last night’s series. Behrens leading with 713 and Ward being the “dog” on 607. Their sheet showed games of 1.102, 1.085 and 1.051, a total of 3.238. Needless to sav Etahlhut Jewelers lost all three against this scoring, taking one on the chin in the Arst game "with a score of 1,035. Schoch had 650 for the losers.

Fall City won two games from Prima Beverage, but the scoring in this set was below par. a 596 by Hunt leading. Oeftering Coal also won two. the Martin Trucks being the victims. Tedrowe topped Gets, 612 to 606. to carry the honors in this set. Bennies Barbers also copped two from Indianapolis Toilet and Apron Supply, Tracy leading the winners with a count of 581.

Two-game wins ruled the big St. Joan of Arc League contests on the Uptown drives Blackwell, Eaton. Centennial Press. Four Thirty-seven and Duffy Malt Products defeating Barrett Coal. Pittman-Rice, Mis-souri-Pacific. Fagan Seed and General Tire. A 595 count by C. Murphy led the league. Scott Trucking was in form during the K. of C. play at the Delaware, rolling a total of 2,900 to take three from the J. J. Blackwell & Son quintet. The other contests were decided two to one, Penn Coal. Hoosier Optical and Pittman-Rice Coal defeating Quinn Grocery. Block Optical and Pinneran Grocery. Bill Sargent totaled 675 with games of 245. 220 and 210 to lead. Lee Foley had 652 and Johnny Murphy 627. HOPPE WINS FOUR TILTS Small crowds greeted Willie Hoppe, veteran cue star, in his two-day, exhibition stand, but the former champion romped through eight tilts without a loss at Cooler’s. He won four Thursday, beating Harry Cooler twice in balkline play, 150 to 24, in five innings in the afternoon, and 150 to 12 in four inning at night. Hoppe had high run of 101. He defeated Neal Jones, 35 to 5, in nineteen innings, and Lou Spivey, 35 to 17, in thirty innings, in tri-rail contests.

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Ed Rommel After ten years of service, veteran Ed Rommel, knuckle ball hurler. has been released unconditionally by the Philadelphia Athletics. Sports of Long Ago BY EARL M’KEE. IN this day of radio broadcasts of baseball games, especially world series contests, when even the smack of the bat on the ball can be heard, it may surprise presentday fans to know that out-of-town games of the Indianapolis baseball club in the Western League were automatically reproduced here thirty-six years ago. In the summer of 1896 the Grand opera house, which later became Keith’s, was leased by cne Chapman, who had a miniature ball field constructed on the stkge, taking up the entire space from wings to wings and from footlights to rear wall. This platform was raised at the back, about six feet, in order that occupants of orchestra seats might see the entire field. Dummies, dressed in appropriate uniforms, represented the players on the two teams, and they were mounted on unicycles, single wheels with pedals on each side to which their feet were attached, so that as they rolled along the track around the base lines their feet went through the motions of running. The ball was handled by a complicated system of wires, and a very satisfactory reproduction of an actual ball game was presented. A telegraph operator sat in the wings and received the story of the game, play by play, from the city in which the Indianapolis team was playing. Good crowds attended the make-believe games, which were advertised in the local newspapers as “Chapman’s Marvelous Automatic Baseball.” And, believe it or not, “ladies’ day” was advertised each week.

Indianapolis was leading the league that summer back in the nineties, the teams in the loop, on June 30, 1896, standing in the following order: Indianapolis, Detroit, Minneapolis, ‘Kansas City, St. Paul, Milwaukee. Grand Rapids and Columbus. And on that date the Indianapolis lineup was as follows: Hogriever, rs; Buckley, 3b; McCarthy, If; Stewart. 2b; Motz. lb; Wood, c; Shannon, ss; Phillips, p, and Hogan, cf. REMEMBER WHEN— When John L. Sullivan and Jake Kilrain boxed an exhibition at the Gayety theater on East Washington, and when Sullivan, in (he nineties, used to visit local theaters as the hero in the plays “The Man From Boston” and “A True American?” When roller polo enjoyed a popularity comparable with basketball of the present day, and every small town in Indiana boasted a rink and a team? When Carl Fisher’s craving for a smoke cost him the national balloon championship? Fisher's balloon, in which he and Captain Bumbaugh were riding, covered the greatest distance, but was disqualify because of a short stop down in Tennessee, when Carl descended, tied the bag to a tree and got out to take a few puffs. When basketball plavers wore rubber nose guards and padded pants? When old Battery A of this city ha*d one of the best football elevens In the country? BASKETBALL Indianapolis District Eoworth Leagues opened the Basketball season Wednesday night with games at the Broadway gym. Broadway Girls trounced Castletori Girls, 29 to 14. with A£nes and Alleen Peelle leading the scoring, while A. Beaver mads most of the loser's points. Franklin, last year’s champions, and Broadway, early season favorites, tangled in the feature contest. Broadway took a 10 point lead at half time and then withstood all rallies to win, 37 to 32. Shroeder was high scorer, and Lister and Coy. guards, starred for the winners. McGinnis and Stout made most of the Franklin points. Another favorite. Central Avenue, defeated East Park, 41 to 28. Liehr and Skomp, rival centers, tallied 15 points each. Indianapolis Buddies Club basketball team is arranging its schedule for the coming season, and would like to hear from srtong city and state teams desiring games. Write Abe Goldsmith. 1202 South Meridian street, Apt. 8, or phone Drexel 5244-R, at 6 p. m.

STEEL HOUSE INDUSTRY FORECAST DISCOUNTED Rg r Science Service PITTSBURGH, Oct. 22.—1n the face of a virtual epidemic of steel residences springing up all over the country, the United States Steel Corporation has decided that mass production of standardized steel houses will not become a big new industry. A survey of fifty-six new systems of steel construction invading the brick, mortar, and lumber industries was made before this conclusion was reached, F. T. Llewellyn, consulting engineer for the Steel Corporation, told the American Institute of Steel Construction, meeting here. Llewellyn believes, however, that houses of individual design, using standardized steel units, will furnish the chief demand lor steel for home building. He said the survey showed that conditions attending construction of residences have -little in common with those fields in which multiple production methods are applicable, such as in the manufacture and marketing of automobiles.

.OCT. 22, 1932

Ross Raps Battalino Chicago Pug Turns In Tenth Win in Campaign for Title. By United Press CHICAGO, Oct. 22. —Barney Ross, 22-year-old Chicago boy, was high among the leading lightweight contenders today after defeating Christopher (Bat) Battalino of Hartford Conn, former featherweight champion. in a ten-round bout in the Chicago stadium Friday night. Ross weighed 135. Battalino 135 S. Before a crowd of 11.349, which paid $21,463 to see the bout. Ross won the unanimous verdict of the referee and two judges. It was Ross’ tenth straight victory and placed him in line for a lightweight title scrap with Tony Canzoneri before the end of the winter season. Battalino as always, put up a, game exhibition, and never retreated before Ross’ steady fire of jabs, hooks and uppercuts. Ross cue loose with every punch in his power on more than one occasion in an effort to knock Battalino off his feet, but he never succeeded in doing more than slowing up the exchampion. After the bout it was discovered Battalino had suffered a broken nose, which handicapped him in the later rounds. Battalino did his best work inside. constantly pumping punches to Ross’ midriff. Charlev Retzlaff. 198. Leonard. N. D.. wa* pushed to the limit to win an eight-round decision from Jack Rooer. 194. California. Art Laskv. 192. Minneapolis, was awarded a technical knockout over Hal Murphv. 182. Springfield. Mo., in the fourth round of a scheduled six-round bout. Paul Dazzo. 127. Chicago, won an unpopular six-round decision over Jack Sharkev. 125. St. Paul. Johnnv Phagan. 147. Chicago Negro, won. a close four-round decision over Harvey Carothers. 148. Moline, niinois. Davev Dav. 128. Chicago, outpointed Jo# Bosak. 126. Chicago in four rounds.

•e. u.. t. BY CHRISTY WALSH Member all America Board of Football. (Reg. U. S. Pal. Office) NEW YORK. Oct. 22.—Fitzhugh Lyons, big Negro end, forward pass receiver and place kicker. Is the Hoosier state’s representative this weqfc. in All America Ratings made up of ten players, who were outstanding in college games of Oct. 15. Lyons, with Indiana university, helped defeat lowa, and his allround work was a feature of the Crimson's 12 to 0 victory. Each player mentioned in weekly ratings will receive a card of merit from the All-America board of football. The most recent ten “selects” follow: rw* PICK UP AGATE ’Ggßufi SANDER Washington State —Here is a triple threat man whose passing, kicking and running combined to humble California's "Golden Bears" last Saturday and who. according to Ed Hughes. San Francisco Chronicle, is the greatest football stylist on the PaciAc coast. NEWMAN Michigan—With two touchdown passe* thrown, this phenomenal quarter back defeated the old rival. Ohio State, almost single handed. Newman is a Ane runner ana a quick thinking pilot. He has come back to glory after a poor season last year. JORGENSEN St. Mary’s. Cal. Recovered fumbled punt on 9-yard line; blocked another punt for safety; place-kicked two points after touchdowns and piled up stubborn offense all afternoon. HELLER Pittsburgh—He started the Arework* against Army with a glorious 55-vard sweep for a touchdown. He followed this with a pass, half the distance of the Aeld and Pitt scored again. He was in ther# going places from start to Anlsh. ROBINSON Minnesota—His spectacular pass grabbing against Nebraska, gave a close victorV to Minnesota. "For the third straight year.” says Charlie Johnson of the Minneapolis star, “Robinson is defensively superb and I consider him the best pas* receiver since Bert Baston.” OLSON Northwestern—Gaining 30 per cent of th* entire yardage of his team against Illinois. Olson carried the ball twenty-six times for an average of four yards. Olson s tremendous punting and pounding of the line made him the outstanding performer.

AI.PAUGH Denver University—Colorado Aggies were considered two touchdowns better, but Denver held them to a tie and Alspaugh was the chief reason. LYONS Indiana.—ln the lowa game no other player on the field was more important than Fitz Lyons, great Negro end. He place-kicked for three points and scored another after touchdown. He sparkled on. the receiving end of three passes. His uncanny leaning catches will confound any kind of pass defense. summerff.lt West Point—This fighting captain spent part of his time in the Armv line and the rest in the Pittsburgh backfleld. Plav after play he was in there smashing interference. rushing the kicker and hauling down the Pittsburgh ball carrier. GAILUS Ohio State—Bud Shaver of the Detroit Times rates Gailus as the best lineman in the Big Ten—so far this year.. Michigan was unable to gain through his side of the line, and in Shaver s opinion, the Buckeye guard was the best player on the field. (Copyright. 1932. bv the Christy Walsh Syndicate.! 2 AMENDMENTS UPJDR VOTE Income Tax and New Bar Rules Before State. Levying of an income tax and more drastic regulation of bar admissions are proposed amendments to the state Constitution to be voted on Nov. 8, election officials reminded voters today. The first proposed amendment, requiring three-fourths of the state's total vote, would amend state laws to permit the legislature to levy a tax on incomes, now a controversial issue. The second proposed amendment, backed by bar associations, wuld change existing laws to admit all voters of good moral character to practice, but would strengthen the present examination system. East Tenth M. E, Knights, members of the Indiana Junior Conference, wish to schedule games with city and state teams. Write Ralph Gale, 1207 Congress avenue. Heath Memorial church needs three more church teams to complete the league for this year. Strong teams are urged to call Cherry 2746. ask for Mr. Groves, between 1 and Ip.m.