Indianapolis Times, Volume 44, Number 129, Indianapolis, Marion County, 8 October 1932 — Page 1

—This Is Your Column You Say It Be Your Own Columnist; Page One Is Wide Open for Your Views.

Editor Timm — SEVERAL days ago, in reading the editorials of your paper, the writer was much impressed with your article. Fun Without Money." This id"a surely will be received gratefully by many who have had to cut down or entirely do aw'ay with recreation they need now more than ever before. Slowly there seems to be filtering Into the minds of the people the necessity for permanently changing their habits to conform with present conditions. Let us hope we will learn to become neighbors again. The brotherhood of our church has been working along that line for the last, year. The monthly meeting has been thrown open to all and a large part of our program has been given over to entertainment. Last month we had a large crowd when we had as speaker Frank Hamilton, a spy during the war with the French Foreign Legion. His message was well received. At our next meeting, Monday, Oct. 10. we will have a. free movie. One of our members has a movie machine and he will give us an evenings entertainment of good, clean fun. L. T. JESSUP. Rethlchcm Lutheran church. ntta Editor Times— I SEE by the paper that the prodigal son of lowa has returned. When he w'as yet a great way off. his father 'the Republican party) saw him, and ran. and fell on his neck, and kissed him, and said to his paid servants, Bring forth the best robe of centralization of government pow'er, and put it on him, and put a ring of royal monarchy of Hamilton’s type on his hand, for this is my son." Now his elder sons w'ere in the field, or had been. They heard the music and dancing and went into town, and asked one of the paid servants what these things mean. The servants said, thy father has killed the fatted calf, because the brother has returned from England, and the elder sons w'ere angry and .said: “Lo. these many years do w'e serve you, neither transgressed we at any time thy commandments; and you never gave us a break, but now this son w-ho has put the yoke of bondage of England and the international bankers upon us, has taken our home away from us. gets the fatted calf. We will not stand for it; w'e will parade. You say it. Tabor street.. READER.

it a it t'd it nr Timm — AFTER rending comments in . this column. I have comp to the conclusion that instead of being headed “Your Column." it should be called the “Howl Column." That is all Its contributors seem able to do in this land of plenty. One of the readers complains about, our policemen. I dare say if said reader would himself stand on a corner all day in a downpouring rain, performing the duty of guiding these Hoosier geese across the street, he would do more thai use profane language. I am no lover of policemen, but why not remember they also are human, even though paid by us taxpayers. Whom the average citizen wants to hear from is not these bonus squawkers. political mud slingers and tax ouchers, but sensible, tolerant. cheerful individuals who can spill something into our depressed ears and befuddled brains except the blues. A DISGRUNTLED TAXPAYER. a a a yd it or Timm — I WOULD like to join with F. S. Haskett in regard to Mr. “Patriotic," who was to yellow to wear a uniform during the war, and too ashamed to sign his name to the article hr wrote in which he called the ex-service men gold brickers and windbags. I class this man and Talcott Powell as worse than enemies an,ri they should be treated as such. Mr. Patriotic has plenty of nerve now, since the war has been over fourteen years. We arp not asking for anything except what is due us and the bonus is part—just a small part—of what the government owes the ex-service men. We ex-service men are deserving of more than ever wp will get. C. A. MASSEY. a a a f Hit nr Times— YOUR paper ever has been fearless and straightforward, so I come for help to you and others whot write for this column. I always have taught my two boys that cowardice is one of the worst sins. I have urged them to have convictions and not be afraid to stand up for them. My oldest son, knowing that my preference for the Democratic party, when its candidates are fine, strong men, asked me if I was go,ing to vote for Roosevelt. He said. “Mother, the boys at school say he Is a coward because he is afraid to say what he thinks about the bonus. You always have said that you hated cowards." Why doesn't Roosevelt come out boldly for what he thinks on that question? Is this hesitancy an indication that he will be afraid of many other questions which he will have to decide after he is President? How can I answer my boys’ question? Wouldn't it be better to have a man who stands out fearlessly for his convictions, though he knows it will cast him the election, than a man whom the boys can term a coward, because he is afraid of what he might say will cost him votes? Will some other Roosevelt aupporter help me here? MRS. W. A. S. North Illinois street.

The Indianapolis Times Fair and somewhat warmer tonight, becoming unsettled with showers Sunday; cooler Sunday night.

VOLUME 44—NUMBER 129

CITY TO ORDER EVACUATION OF HOOVERVILLE Speed Arrangements With Realty Owners to House Evicted Families. CONDITIONS ‘TERRIBLE’ Immediate Removal Urged by Health Officer; Fears Epidemic. Evacuation of Hooverville and Curtisville, mushroom towns on the banks of White river populated by evicted families, will be ordered by city officials, as soon as arrangements are completed for housing, it was learned today. It is planned to provide houses rent-free through the co-operation of property owners, providing that arrangements can be completed for paying taxes on the houses, according to Walter Clarke, towmship trustee’s counsel. "If funds of the township trustee ran be used legally to pay taxes on the property, the ow'ners will be willing to donate their use,” Clarke said. "They feel it is better to have the houses occupied than standing idle this winter." Decision to order the abandonment of the tin shacks and driftwood hovels w’as reached by city officials after sanitary conditions in the settlements w'ere found to be "deplorable.”

Deplorable Living Conditions Last w 7 eek a fourteen-foot well supplying the towns with water was ordered sealed after analysis showed the presence of bacteria. Few of the occupants of the shacks have made any provision for cold weather, and fatalities during the winter would be almost impossible to avoid, according to Dr. Herman G. Morgan, secretary of the health board. “Conditions under which those people are living can not be tolerated," Dr. Morgan said. "For their own safety, as well as the health of the entire city, the almost perfect facilities for breeding disease which exist there must be eliminated. Previous plan for improving living conditions in the settlement while permitting it to remain on the river bank was declared impractical by Charles R. Myers, president of the board of safety. In Overflow Zone “It is not unusual for the river to overflow beyond the point where the homes are located.” he said. “High water this winter and next spring would drive them from their homes at the worst passible time. We plan to provide for them before an emergency arises.*’ Approximately thirty-five families, homeless because of evictions for nonpayment of rent, now are living in the settlement. Among the group is one widow with a family of eight children, and there also are a num ber of other children of school age in the group. According to the board of health, there are seven expectant mothers in the settlement, as well as several cases of disease which necessitate immediate hospital treatment. Await Final Action Proper treatment and care of these persons is impossible under conditions in the towns, because of lack of proper shelter and sanitary facilities. Dr. Morgan said. Several conferences were held this week in the office of Mayor Reginald H. Sullivan, attended by Morgan, Myers, Clarke, Chief Mike Morrissey and William H. Book of the Chamber of Commerce. Determination of the date of evacuation awaits final decision c the housing of the families. It is probable that assistance will be given the families in the removal of their belongings, Clarke said. VOTE COMMISSIONERS NAMED BY LESLIE Gause and Spencer Again Are Given Two-Year Terms. Attorneys Fred C. Gause and William W. Spencer. Indianapolis, have been reappointed state election commissioners it was announced today by Governor Harry G. Leslie. Gause is a Republican and Spencer a Democrat. Terms are for two years. The Governor is the third member of the board. J. Otto Lee, clerk of the state printing board, is secretary. Leslie also announced reappointment of Chesleigh tDolly* Gray, 3332 North Pennsylvania street, to the state board for registration and examination of engineers. Gray is district manager of the American Aggregates Corporation. Term is for three years. ORDER RATE SLASHES Agree Light Cost Reductions Are Announced in Six Towns. Agreed electric reductions in six small towns were approved by the public service commission conference Friday afternoon. Estimated reductions are as follows; Miami. $958.23; Cassville, $80.76; Hobbs. $417.21; Curtisvlllq, $325.99; Emporia. $382.35, and Lincoln. $178.44. All are served by the Traction Light and Power Company.

Tarzan the Untamed BY EDGAR RICE BURROUGHS

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Those slick movie makeup masters of Hollywood have gone one step slicker. The newest art and it’s a sensation with filmdom’s fair ones—is varnished hair. Keen as they are about the new' fashion. Hollywood stars aren’t yet shellacking their owm tresses. A lacquered wig does the trick—and you can pick your color. Myrna Loy displays here an unusual model of Spanish design.

BATTLE TO REACH TAX COMPROMISE

Bright Spots

By United Press Reading Company reported September revenue freight loadings of 106.232 cars, against 101,085 cars in August. Rockwood Mills of Rockwood, Tenn., increased employes wages 10 to 12 per cent. Dodge Brothers, Inc., reports retail deliveries of passenger cars during week ended Oct. 1 increased 3.9 per cent over preceding week; truck sales increased 2.9 per cent in same week, Steinway <fc Sons report its piano sales during September in New York increased 10 per cent over September last year. Philadelphia <fc Reading Coal and Iron Company recalled 900 workers to its Shenandoah (Pa.) colliery. OCEAN PLANE WRECK FOUND American Nurse Tragedy Near Azores Revealed. B;/ I nitrd Pie** GENOA, Oct. B.—The wreckage of the airplane American Nurse, missing on a trans-Atlantic flight from New York to Italy, was sighted near the Azores, Captain Mackey of the British steamer Jumna informed the British consul-general today. The captain said he recognized the plane by symbol or sign letters. F. M, ADAMS DEAD Ex-State Senator Widely Known in Indiana. Frank M. Adams, 48. of Rockville, former state senator, died Friday in his home. Death was caused by heart disease. Mr. Adams was widely known in Indiana, and was actively engaged in Republican politics for a number of years. The widow, and a son. Frank M. Adams Jr., survive him. Roy E. Adams and William Ray Adams, cousins, live in Indianapolis. Funeral sendees will be held at 2 Sunday in Rockville. Burial also will be there. FUNO DRIVE OVER TOP Richmond Oversubscribes $70,000 Quota by $3,000. B;i T nitrd Press RICHMOND, Ind., Oct. B.—Community Fund workers throughout the state were cheereed today by reports- that Richmond oversubscribed its quota of $70,000 by $3,000.

TRUCK DRIVER IS HELD IN SCHOOL BUS CRASH

B;i T nited Press LEBANON, Ind.. Oct. B.—Charges growing out of a school bus accident near here, which caused serious injury to six pupils, were expected to be placed today against Milton Winn. 24. driver of a truck that collided with the bus. Winn, who was injured slightly, was taken to the Boone county jail, but later transferred to a hospital. Officers said they feared violence

INDIANAPOLIS, SATURDAY, OCT. 8, 1932

$2.75 Rate May Be Fixed: Would Mean Heavy Cuts for Schools, City. Marion county’s tax adjustment board started its final session today seeking * a compromise rate which, if adopted, will mean drastic budget reductions for the civil city and school city. Failure to agree on a compromise rates of $2.75 or $2.90 leaves only one alternative—enforcement of the $1.50 tax limit. Walter C. Boetcher, board chairman. declared he believed the board would compromise differences and fix a rate “that would not cripple government.” Definile Stand Taken Hope ofe reducing the county rate of 41.25 cents on each SIOO taxable property apparently has been abandoned. Four board members have taken a. definite stand against cuts in the county budget. These four, Boetcher. Charles C. Grossart. county auditor, and Councilmen John Newhouse and Charles O. Resener are will to declare an emergency and fix the rate at $2.75 or $2.90. A fifth member. Nicholas H. Noyes, treasurer of Eli Lilly and Company, also is believed inclined toward compromising at such a figure. Support $1.50 Rate Opposing them are Leo K. Fesler and Albert E. Uhl, who, failing to put through a suggestion for a rate as low as $2,196 for Center township. are supporting the $1.50 rate. Officials of the city, school city and county have appeared before the board and defended their budgets. School officials appeared Friday and pleaded that “schools can not operate on less than a $1,087 levy, - ’ as tentatively fixed by the school board. The adjustment board has approved all township rates less than $1.50. These are: Center, outside the city. $1.3176; Washington, outside, $1.2175, and Decatur, outside, $1.20. HOGS ADVANCE 15 TO 25 CENTS AT YARDS Cattle, Calves Nominally Steady; Sheep Unchanged. Hogs advanced 15 to 25 cents this morning at the city yards, prices on the bulk. 150 to 325 pounds, ranging from $3.90 to $4.00. Early top was $4.05. Reason for the advance was the light supply and a small demand from many quarters. Receipts were estimated at holdovers were 307. Cattle were nominal on receipts of 50. Vealers were steady at $6 down. Calf receipts numbered 100. Sheep were quotably steady or up to $5.50 for ewe and wether lambs. Receipts were 100.

against him if any of the injured children die. All the injured children and three others, including William Land, driver of the school bus. who were hurt, were brought to Witham hospital in Lebanon. / * The children were pupils at the Perry central consolidated school and were en route there when the crash occurred, while the bus was stopped at the home of Emery Green to pick up two pupils.

The ape-man hero of the African jungles . . . fighting ever alone with knife and spear and bow and arrow’s as his only weapons . . . now swings into action in a terrain sw 7 ept by machine gun bullets and heavy shells. An imaginary Red army, sweeping the world into new conflict, has dispatched a force to British East Africa. . . . There Tarzan. remote from affairs of men, finds himself swept into fighting fury as his home is ravaged.

FRAUD LAID TO S. W. STRAUS BOND COMPANY Temporary Receivership Is Ordered: Enjoined From Further Deals. ‘VICIOUS,’ IS BRAND Giant Investment Firm Says Mortgages Back of Securities Weak. BY OTIS PEABODY SWIFT United Pres, Staff Correspondent NEW YORK. Oct. B—S. W. Straus & Cos., real estate bond mortgage firm, said to have sold a billion dollars worth of bonds in its more than fifty years’ history and having 200.000 customers today, has been ordered into temporary receivership and enjoined from further dealings in secuirties. The application for receivership, made by Attorney-General John J. Bennett, charged the banking and securities house with "fraud on the public generally.” Receivership action was taken by Supreme Court Judge J. Alfred Norton in Brooklyn. Joseph Lazarus, assistant to Bennett described the firm’s activities as “vicious and reprehensible.” He alleged salesmen of the house were given bonuses for inducing purchasers to take issues in default, and that bonds w'ere sold on properties w'hereon taxes and interest w'ere unpaid, without knowledge of the purchaser.

Fraud Is Charged He charged that salesmen represented the house as a first mortgage institution when bonds sold were , backed by second, third and fourth mortgages. Justice Norton ruled in part: “I am fully satisfied upon the record before me that the defendants permitted an unsuspecting public to purchase the so-called ‘Straus bonds’ in the belief that tlv,, de- • fendant, S. W. Straus * Cos., Inc., was issuing same as a direct obliga- : tion and in consequence was responsible for the payment thereof. “After the defendants’ many years of intensive advertising to the effect, that they issued real estate j mortgage bonds that were first liens in every respect, it readily can be j understood that a heterogenous public might well be misled into believing that it actually was purchasing first bond mortgages, when in fact the security received was one of a junior lien. Tragical, Says Judge “A further charge is made that at least since January. 1928, these defendants sold hundreds of thouj sands ts dollars and perhaps an aggregate of millions of dollars’ worth of real estate bonds to the public at a time subsequent to defaults in th° payment of interest and principle of the mortises or in payment of taxes upon the mortgaged property. “These bonds were represented as being in good standing at the time of the sale to the public. “It is tragical to say the least to compare the practices as engaged in by the defendants with the glowing representations of good faith set forth in the particular circular issued b ythe defendants. “Defendants maintain that the injunction should be denied since they are usin gtheir best energies to aid the bond holders in the reorganization of defaulted property. No doubt these efforts are commendable as evidencing partial atonement. Subsequent repentence and subsequent attempted atonement, however, do not condone a prior reprehensible conduct falling within the proscription of the statute. Received Many Complaints The state’s proceedings against S. W. Straus X Cos. have been carried on through the late summer anly early autumn, when Deputy Attorney-General Joseph, who drew the initial complaint, asserted that $300,000,000 worth of Straus bonds were in default, and that he had received complaints from purchasers who had asserted they had lost $500,000 in bonds of the concern. A statement by S. J. T. Straus, chairman of the board, had. on Aug. 24, emphasized that the firm has been in business for “more than fifty years.” that it had "conducted its business along the highest ethical lines" during that entire time. He denied charges then made and said that "after- a full and fair day in court it will be found that the company’s course of business deserves credit rather than censure.” , New York Stocks Opening m <Bv Abbott. Hopoin <& Cos.) —Oct. 8— Am Can 48 U Johns Manville. 20' 2 Atchison 42>a Lie &: Mvers 8.. 61 Anaconda 9 3 4 Montv Ward... II 7 * Am For Pwr 8 NY Central. ... 22 3 Am Tel 4: Te!. . 104' j'N American . . 28' Auburn 42VNatl Cash Rea.. 11 Cons Gas .... 55 3 Penn R R 15 Bvers A M 14V, Packard 3 ! Case J I 42’-. Radio IV* Ches A- Ohio 20' 2 Cons Oil 6'* Fox Film A... 3 Std Oil of N J 2*'2 Gen Foods .... 28'. Texas Corn ... 12 Gillette 133, u S Steel . . . 3*H Gen Mot 14 Unit-ri Corn 9 Gen Flee 13 3 . tin Carbide . 2H. Gold Du** .. . . 1S 7 Vanadium 14 Gen ‘to Tk Car 16 W>sf inehouse El 29 Int Nickl* 8 Woolworth ...33 3 . Chicago Stocks Opening (Br Abbott. Hoppin 4t Cos.) Oci. 8— Cities Service .. 3 5 Con* Chi pfd . 17 Cord Corp .... 4 Natl Sec com .. 3 < Cont Chi com.. 1 ;Ot & Indus pfd. 4

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Purdue and Indiana Face Big Ten Gridiron Foes

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Above—John Husar. Purdue tackle. Below Don Vellcr. Indiana back.

Three Guesses YOU will find loads of entertainment and a good measure of instruction in the bright new daily “brain teaser” starting Monday in The Times. Each day, three questions and answers in pictorial form will test your knowledge of a thousand and one facts you may have thought familiar —to discover you don’t know the answers. Watch for this daily feature.

HOPE FOR ARMS PARLEY GROWS France Accepts 4-Power Conference Plan. Bn United Press LONDON, Oct. B—France today accepted the proposal, originating with the British government, for a four-power armaments conference dealing with the German demand for arms equality. The conference appears more likely to be held as a result. COOL WAVE HELD OFF Temperatures to Slide Late Sunday, Is Forecast of Armington. Delay until Sunday night in arrival of a cool wave expected to force temperatures down several degrees below normal tonight, was forecast today by J. H. Armington, United States weatherman. Weather today and tonight wil be fair with the mercury reaching to higher levels than in the last four days. Armington said. Unsettled conditions bringing showers will arrive Sunday, he predicted. In the Air

Weather conditions at 9 a. m.: South southwest wind, 16 miles an hour; temperature. 57; barometric pressure, 30.24 at sea level; ceiling, clear, unlimited; visibility, 12 miles; field, good.

Hourly Temperatures 6 a. m 46 8 a. m 53 7 a. m 47 9 a. m 59 10 a. m 61

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Notre Dame Will Swing Into Action at South Bend Against Haskell. Football held complete command of the Hoosier sport world today, with twelve Indiana colleges, including the “big three." in action. Important Big Ten tussles, both of which may have bearing on the final outcome of the 1932 pennant campaign, faced Indiana and Purdue. Bill Hayes’ Crimson warriors invaded Ohio State, underdogs, but confident. Don Veller is the I. U. sophomore find at quarter back, a triple threater who may be turned loose on the Buckeyes today. Purdue's battle with Minnesota at the Gopher camp brings together two of the outstanding title choices. The Boilermakers are slight favorites. John Husar. veteran tackle, is in for some rough treatment when" he attempts to stos Jack Manders. 210-pound Gopher full back, and Pug Lund, sensational sophomore ba'l toter. Another powerful Notre Dame eleven made its debut today at South Bend, with a warmup tussle with Haskell Indians. Other Hoosier .games: Indiana State vs. Valparaiso, at Valparaiso. Grand Rapids Junior vs. Manchester, at North Manchester. Rose Pciy vs. Wabash, at Crawfordsville. Franklin vs. Ohio university, at Athens. O. De Pauw vs. Miami at Oxford. O. Bluffton vs. Earlham, at Richmond. Butler vs. Cincinnati, at Cincinnati <night game). Other games of interest to Indiana and midwestern fans are the Northwestern-Michigan classic at Ann Arbor, expected to draw 70.000 and to produce some of the greatest football of the season, the lowaWisconsin fray, and Chicago's tussle at Yale, marking the return of 70 year-old Coach A. A. Stagg to the scene of his undergraduate conquests.

Foreign Exchange

ißv Abbot Hoppin & Co.' —Oct 8— Open S’erlmg. England 3 Franc France *383 • Lira. Italy 0512 3 - F ane. Be'gium 1392 Mark. Oerm’nv 2380 Guilder, Holland 4035 Peseta. Spam 0329'2 Krone. Norwgv 1742 Krone. Denmark 1795 Yen. Japan 2362

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SAMUEL INSULL IN SPAIN, SAY MADRID POLICE Staying at Capital in Role of Tourist: Not Registered. Hotel Claims. OPEN CANADIAN FIGHT Brother Martin Will Ask * Liberty on Bail at Hearing Today. Bu f niti and Press MADRID. Spain. Oct. B—The chief of Madrid police told the United Press today that Samuel Insull, former Illinois utilities magnate under indictment, was staying at the Ritz hotel in Madrid. Officials at the hotel, however, said that “no one registered under the name of Insull’’ was a guest there. The statement of the chief of police was that Insull was staying at the Ritz as "a tourist.” He said the Madrid police had no order to arrest him. , Martin Insull Fights BY GEORGE J. MARDER United Pres, Staff Correspondent BARRIE, Ontv Oct. B.—Martin J. Insull. held here as a fugitive from justice ppnding extradition to Chicago, began his fight for freedom on bail today with a hearing scheduled before Judge Dudley Holmes shortly after 10 a. m. Arguments between Ontario representatives and Insull attorneys were expected to center on three points; on whether Judge Holmes, as Simcoe county judge, has jurisdiction to grant bail in an extradition case; the amount of bail, and thp adequacy of surety. It was understood that anyone signing bail for Insull, if the court permitted it, would have to own property in Canada sufficient to cover the amount. Whether Insull had such signers was not known before the hearing opened. Edward Bayly, deputy attorneygeneral of Ontario, represents the state of Illinois. J. c. Mcßuer and J. R. Boys represented Insull. The former Chicago multi-mil-lionaire was reported ill. Mrs. Insull visited his cell Friday night with Dr. E. C. Wainright of Orillia. Mrs. Insull was very pale and her lips twitched. Extradition papers for Insull w r ere not exnected here for tw'o weeks, due to the routine of passing through Washington and Ottaw r a, before a hearing on the case can be %ield. That would indicate that Judge Holmes would order Insull held another eight days after the first order expires Oct. 14.

CHARGE BANDIT USED SMALL WATER PISTOL' Loot Is Found in Porket of Suspect. Police Say. Captured by police Friday night after he is alleged to have staged one robbery and failed in another, a toy pistol bandit suspect is held today on charges of robbery and vagrancy. He is Frank W. Jones, 19. Negro of 2108 North Capitol avenue. Shortly after he frustrated attempt of a bandit to rob him at New r \ ork and Blackford streets William F. Labbetter, 715 East Twenty-fifth street, taxi driver, appeared at police headquarters, w here he identified Jones as the alleged bandit. Jones was nabbed bv a police squad, apparently while fleeing from the holdup scene, as suspect in § holdup a few 7 hours before of James Williams, 801 West Twentysixth street, another taxi driver also w-as robbed of a small amount of rash, several keys and a penc‘l. Policp said the loot was found in Jones' pockets. A small water pistol was found in the suspect’s pockets, police said. AUTO MECHANIC DEAD John G. Welsh, 111 Several Weeks, Is Taken at Home. John G. Welsh, 38. an automobile mechanic and a resident of Indianapolis all his life, died Friday night in his home, 1134 English avenue. He had been ill several weeks. He attended Holy Cross school, and was a member of St. Patrick's Catholic church. Funeral arrangements have not been completed.

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