Indianapolis Times, Volume 43, Number 164, Indianapolis, Marion County, 18 November 1931 — Page 11

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CAUTION URGED TO CUT RISING TRAFFIC TOLL Marion County Fatalities Reach Ghastly Total of 150 This Year. WINTER DANGERS CITED Plea to ‘Lose a Minute, Save a Life,’ Renewed to Curb Crashes. Despite warnings and educational -ampaigns to halt the number of automobile fatalities in the county 150 persons have lost their lives in traffic accidents since Jan. 1. This is the heaviest traffic toll ever recorded in the county in a corresponding period. Within the next few hours or days probably other lives will be added to that ghastly toll, death's tribute on the altar of recklesc driving and speed. Police, newspapers, schools and civic organizations, so far, have found themselves powerless to stop the offensive of death by automobiles. With less than six weeks remaining in 1931 the forces seeking to halt that mounting toll today organized to throw additional strength into campaigns. Hazards on Increase The. last few weeks of this year •will demand more careful observance of traffic regulations. Rain, early darkness, snow and sleet add to the hazards of automobile driving and walking. An example of this was recorded on police and hospital list; Tuesday night. One man was killed and more than twelve other persons injured In accidents occurring during the heavy- rain. Continued disregard of motorists for preferential streets and changing traffic lights stands out as one of the chief causes of accidents. This morning before 7, between Sixteenth and Washington streets, on Capitol avenue, thi'ee motorists shot their cars across the preferential street without hesitating for the intersection. Stop Signs Ignored At Indiana and Capitol avenue motorists continually disregard the stop signs which give Indiana avenue the right of way. When a police officer is not on duty at the intersection pedestrians and motorists who observe the law are nothing more than targets for reckless drivers. The same condition prevails at the other angle-avenue intersections near the business district. In September, The Times opened a two-week campaign pleading with motorists and pedestrians to “LOSE A MINUTE AND SAVE A LIFE.” The campaign primarily was started to protect children returning to school after summer vacation. The campaign resulted in many demands for continuance. It was broadened and lasted an additional three weeks. Safety Drive Renewed However, in view of the increasing list of casualties. The Times again will stress, the warning: “LOSE A MINUTE AND SAVE A LIFE.” During the September-October campaign, The Times made the prediction that unless the rate of accidents was reduced 160 persons would die before 1932 from automobile injuries. Today the figure is but ten below that forecast. Neither you nor The Times wants It to be an actuality. Think, walk, talk and drive the rules of safety and halt these wholesale deaths! • RAIL INROADS FOUGHT Rivers, Harbors Supporters Oppose Any Federal Regulation. By United Press WASHINGTON. Nov. 18.—A call was issued today for mobilization here next month of rivers and harbors supporters to defend their interests against alleged railway efforts to extend strict federal regulation to highways and inland waterways. Former Senator Joseph E. Ransdcll. Louisiana, summoning delegates to the national rivers and harbors congress, of which he is president, to Tpeet here Dec. 8 and 9 predicted "a battle royal” over the transportation question in congress. STUDY CONTEMPT CASE Hofstadcr Committee May Cite Millionaire New York Builder. Bu United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 18.—The Hofstader legislative investigating committee was to decide today, on a contempt citation against Fred E. French, millionaire builder, who refused to say if he had retained for $25,000 the law’ firm of a Tammany leader because of its "influence.” The committee also w-as to vote on a resolution introduced by assemblyman Abbot Low Moffat asking the ejection from public hearing of Senator John J. McNaboe because of “insulting and impertinent interference” with Counsel Samuel Seabury. ABDICATION IS DENIED King Carol Not Giving Rumanian Throne to Son. Announcement. Bu United J'rts* LONDON, Nov. 18.—Reports that King Carol of Rumania had resigned in favor of his 10-year-old Crown Prince Michael, w-ere ridiculed today in official circles in Bucharest. The reports were current in Berlin Tuesday night. The United Press correspondent at Bucharest was informed officially that the rumors were unfounded.

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Coma, Maybe By United Press MARYVILLE, Mo., Nov. 18. George Wilmes, Nodaw’ay county farmer, has his worries, but insomnia is not among them. A tornado swept across Wilmes’ farm while the family slept. It wrecked his barn, blew down the windmill, ripped shingles from the roof of the house, and shattered windows. But it failed to disturb the slumbering family. And they didn’t discover the damage until they awoke today.

INDICT WOMEN, JUDGE ORDERS Baker Charges Perjury at* Arson Trial. Indictment of two daughters on a charge of perjury for alleged false statements in the arson trial of their mother was ordered today by Criminal Judge Frank P. Baker. The women, Mrs. Ruby May and Mrs. Estel Wheat, both of Crawfordsville, according to Baker, changed their testimony today in criminal court, where Mrs. Flora Tate, the mother, was being tried. According to evidence given Baker, the women made affidavits Oct. 28, 1930, that Mrs. Tate threatened to burn her home at 2212 Morton street, afterward leveled by fire. The women testified today the statement was untrue, and was made "because we had a spat with mother.” Mrs. Tate was indicted on charges of first degree arson and burning personal property to collect $1,500 insurance. Baker instructed George Coogan, deputy state fire marshal in the arson division, to place the perjury evidence before a grand jury at Crawfordsville. BLAZE SWEEPS SCHOOL; 8 FIREMEN OVERCOME Six Alarms Bring More Than Score of Companies to Scene. By United Press PITTSBURGH, Nov. 18. Six alarms brought more than a score of fire companies to the Homewood school where flames were discovered just before school was to have opened today. At least eight firemen were overcome and a dozen- others were driven back by smoke, believed laden with chemical fumes, which swept from the basement of the structure. The flames burst through to the third floor as firemen directed a dozen streams of water into th structure. Women entering the building to clean the rooms before classes assembled discovered the fire. ARRANGE AFFAIR IFOR LEADERS OF PATRIOTS Officers of G. A. R. and Allied Groups to Be Honor Guests. Annual reception for national and department officers of the Federated Patriotic Societies allied with Grand Army of the Republic of Indiana will be held tonight at 8 at Ft. Friendly, 512 North Illinois street. Guests of honor will be: Joseph B. Hcnninger. national aide de camp. G. A. R David Kinnev. department senior vice-commander: James Stevenson, department chaplain; J. Warner, chief of staff: James Clark, department color bearer. all of the G. A. R.; Mrs. Edna E. Paulev. national treasurer. Women s Relief Corps: Frank C. Huston, commander-in-chief. Sons ol Union Veterans: Mrs. Lillian Ball, national treasurer, and Mrs/ Emma Finch, auxiliary to Sons of Union Veterans: Mrs. Lulu Hartzoa, department inspector. W. R. C.: Mrs. Anna Davis, department registrar, and Mrs. Emma Ackers. Coresoondina secretary. G. A. R. auxiliary; Mrs. L. Enex. press correspondent. Daughters of Union Veterans: Mrs. Mildred Skinner. press correspondent, and Mrs. Lida McGuire, department chief of staff, auxiliary to Sons of Union Veterans. Mrs. Harry Emmons is in charge of arrangements. Mrs. Mary Haley is president of the federated societies. INDIA NA7iLUNOIS~TO SPLIT GRID RECEIPTS Northwestern-Purdue Fray to Aid Both States, Leslie Told. Gate receipts from the PurdueNorthwestern game on Soldiers’ field, Chicago, on Nov. 28 will be split between Illinois and Indiana, Governor Harry G. Leslie was notified today by officials of the Big Ten. "The proportion Indiana receives will be in ratio to its population as compared to Illinois,” Governor Leslie declared. Funds will be used in relief work being done by the Governor’s committee on unemploy- | ment relief. “Poorer sections of the state that have been unable to provide local funds will receive benefits from the bulk of the football fund,” John H. Hewitt, chairman of the committee, said. 125 STATIfFINANCE MEN CONVENE HERE Semi-Annual Managers’ Meeting Is Opened at Lincoln. Approximately 125 delegates were ! in attendance today at the seven- ! teenth semi-annual managers’ meeting of the Indiana Association of | Personal Finance Companies at the | Lincoln. Business session was opened by ! Joseph P. Stratton of Sullivan, president. Speakers for the day were H. E. Arnett, Marion; F. A. Carlson, Shelbyville; Professor Fred V. Chew, Indiana university; George Farrington, Sidney Sullivan, Irvin Wesley, Charles R. Parker, P. A. Hancock and R. F. Hartz, all of Indianapolis. Hartz, first vice-president, was toastmaster at the noon luncheon in Lincoln room.

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Child and Half-Brother Who Lured Her From School Held in Watseka, 111. Cora Hunt, 12-year-old school pupil of Livonia, Ind., and her halfbrother William, who abducted her from a school near their home Friday, were taken into custody early today by Watseka (111.) authorities. Arrest of the girl and William Hunt ended a search for them which was spreading throughout the midwest and which was centering in Indianapolis and Danville, Ind., today. Sheriff Milton Trinkle of Salem received word of the arrest of the couple from the sheriff at Watseka and was to go to the Illinois city this afternoon. William Hunt will face charges of abducting his halfsister when he is returned to Indiana early Thursday. Father Is Relieved Informed of the arrest of the child and William, Otto Hunt, father of the couple and eight other children, cried: "God, I’m glad they found them, I was worried to death.” None of the family will accompany rrii-.kle to Watseka. According to information received at Salem, the girl and William Hunt, 28, were found near the Illinois city. They admitted their identity and immediately were placed in jail. Search for the child started Friday, after William went to a rural school, near Livonia, and asked her to return home, because her mother was ill. When neither of them went to their home, Salem authorities opened the search. Several times recently, William Hunt is said to have threatened the lives of members of his family and parents of the girl believed he might have slain the child. Police Here Aid Search Indianapolis police took up the search Tuesday afternoon, when E. L. Johnson, R. R. 9, Box 349, reported having seen a girl and young man on state road 29 near Emerson avenue who answered description of the missing couple. J. W. Watson, proprietor of a plumbing shop near Danville, said a man and a girl, answering description of the missing duo, had sought to obtain a pair of overalls from him late Tuesday. He said when he refused they walked toward Terre Haute, along the Pennsylvania railroad tracks. The abduction charge against William, believed mentally unbalanced, was filed by the father. Mother Tells of Terror By United Press SARONIA, Ind., Nov. 18.—Mrs. Otto Hunt, a 46-year-old farm mother, tearfully related today the persecution her son William inflicted upon her family, and then in the next sob prayed that he would return home safely. Eagerly Mrs. Hunt, mother of ten children, awaited word from William and his half-sister, Cora, 12, arrested today in Watseka. 111. William left the home near here in a fit of anger last Thursday morning and lured his sister away from school. The crippled mother, worn with years of heavy farm labor, related in detail the story of her son’s career of crime. She told of the constant fear in which he kept the family, sometimes threatening to kill them. Long Career of Crime Twelve years ago, Mrs. Hunt said. William stole a bicycle. Her husband sacrificed a ripening tomato crop to keep him from being sent to the reformatory. Two years later he was sent to the state penal farm for stealing clothing. Twice he was sentenced on two occasions to the Lawrence county penal farm, both times for theft. After that, Mrs. Hunt continued. William threatened the family on numerous occasions. Tried to Kill Father "Last week,’’ she said, “he attempted to kill Pap because he asked him about some apples he had taken from an orchard. I started for a neighbor’s to call the sheriff and he shot at me. Then he threw a stone at the house, barely missing little Henry here,” she said, pointing at one of the numerous small children. “Another time he made us all stay in the house, threatening to kill us if we came out,” the mother related. "One day he chased Pap all over those hills. Pap had a broken leg and its hard for him to get around.” Mrs. Hunt told of threats her son made against Cora. She said he often coaxed her to run away with him. SCHOOLBOY EDITOR TO TALK FOR PRINCIPALS Warren McDermed to Speak at Tenth Annual Conference. Warren McDermed, a senior at Arsenal Technical high school, and associate editor of Staff II of the Arsenal Cannon, will speak on "The High School Paper” before the opening session of the tenth annual high school principals' conference at

Indiana university Friday morning. The conference will e x tend through Friday and Saturday. First session will be held in the Bloomington high school auditorium. Six other high school pupils, representing high schools from various parts of Indiana, will speak on other extracurricular activities.

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INDIANAPOLIS, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 1931

ROAD BOARD SPLITS OVER NEW POLICY Leslie May Take Hand in Squabble Over State Cement Purchases. DECISION STILL PENDING Commissioners Reported to Be Evenly Divided on Matter. Once again a split and a fight in w’hich Governor Harry G. Leslie may take a hand looms for the state highway commission. Possibility of conflict between commissioners lies in the proposed adoption of anew policy whereby the state no longer will purchase the 1,500,000 to 2,000,000 barrels of cement used annually for construction, but will leave the matter of purchasing all materials, including cement, up to each individual contractor. So far, no definite decision has been made. Director John J. Brown of the state highway department offered this comment: “Under present conditions, we are proceeding with caution.” Commissioners had discussed the matter at a meeting Tuesday afternoon, and today they were busy with delegations and did not expect to get back to the subject, Brown said. Compromise Is Reached But a sort of compromise has been reached in that advertisements are being prepared for 400,000 barrels of cement for the first of the 1932 paving program. These bids will be received with first paving bids on Nov. 24. The paving will be around $2,000,000 and about ninety miles. William H. Titus, chief engineer, explained that it was necessary to have cement for these projects furnished by the state as that was the understanding upon which bids will be based. What the future policy on cement purchases will be, neither he, Brown nor the commissioner would commit themselves absolutely today. But from the comment, it appeared that Chairman Albert J. Wedeking and Commissioner Arthur P. Melton favor the new plan of letting the contractors make their own purchases, and Commissioners Arthur Sapp and Robert Boren favor retention of the present scheme for state purchase in large quantity. Price Only One Factor All are agreed that by receiving the 400,000-barrel bids a definite idea regarding price trends may be gleaned. This data will be used in determining the future policy, it was said. But price is only one factor which will play a part in what may turn out to be another major engagement between material forces and their alleged friends on the highway commission. Wedeking long has been labeled as a "black-topper,” and some of the cemeht boosters smell a mouse. They point out that to decentralize the purchasing might be an attempt to dissipate the cement forces further than they are now. On the other hand, it was pointed out by a highway official that in all likelihood the 400,000-barrel bidding will show the cement industry still (or again) united. Brown admits that if the contractors furnish the cement it will require increased supervision to see that state specifications are fully met. Getting Lower Prices He also said that the constant contention of black-top men that bids announced on concrete paving never includes the cement used is another factor which brought about consideration of a policy change. When cement was around $2.25 a barrel and all bids were about alike the matter of change never was discussed. But cement is down to as low as 65 cents or less now and last year bids differed materially. State contracts always have contained a clause whereby any fall in price levels were reflected in state purchases throughout the year. But one of the Wedeking arguments is that reports have come to the commission that contractors are getting lower rrices than the state. “If they can buy it cheaper the etaet should get the advantage in lower bids,” the commission chairman commented. $5,000 Damage in Blast PORTLAND, Ind., Nov. 18.—Damage to her home from an explosion caused $5,000 loss when Mrs. Harry Wood attempted to light a stove from which gas was leaking. Mrs. Wood was uninjured.

LAUNDRIES MOURN HOME WASHING GAIN

“Women who haven’t labored over a washtub in years are doing their own washing today,” members of the Indiana Laundry Owners’ Association agreed at their semi-an-nual conference here today at the Columbia Club. While business of power laundries decreased 15 per cent the first six months this year, and is expected to show an even greater decrease the last six months, an optimistic view w r as sounded by members who see better days ahead. "We have been hard hit by economic conditions, and particularly by the recent mild weather,” said President Bud Fridlin, Kokomo. "In addition there is too much competition in the business. "But we have touched only a small portion >of the business available, not more than 25 cent, and the

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Harry Dunn and the Marion county courthouse, a big problem he has had “on his hands.”

BY BEN STERN Get out your old adding machine, a pad of paper and a sheaf of pencils, for that is what is required to tell the story of the Marion county courthouse. If you haven’t an adding machine use an abacus—that’s one of those "doofunnie's” the Chinese use for rapid calculation. And when you get through with your statistical compilations you probably will wonder why the county grand juries didn't do a little investigating and indicting in the more than half a century from 1870 until the present. The second term of Harry Dunn as county auditor expires Jan. 1, and he will be succeeded by Charles Grossart. If Harry has done nothing but redeem from hock the courthouse

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FORM VETERANS’ ORDER More Than 100 to Be Charter Members of Society. More than one hundred veterans of the Indiana Branch Society, First division of the United States army, are expected to register on the society’s charter at a meeting at 8 Monday evening in the Board of Trade Building. Announcement of the meeting, which will include election of officers, was made by Earl T. Bonham, president pro tern. Eligible men who desire to become charter members must have their names in by Nov. 23, date for closing of the charter, Bonham said. AUTO HEADS TO MEET Dodge, Plymouth Officials Confer With City Dealers. Factory plans for 1832 will be disclosed by Dodge and Plymouth Motor Car Company officials at a conference here today with Indiana dealers, sponsored by Capitol Motors Company, new distributors. The session will begin with a luncheon at the Indianapolis Athletic Club, with J. M. Bloch, Capitol Motors Company president, presiding, Approximately seventy-five dealers were to attend. Tries to Die by Poison Despondent over domestic difficulties, Mrs. Martha Eagan, 27, of 2002 Ashland avenue, swallowed poison Tuesday night in a suicide attempt. She was returned to her home after being treated at the city hospital.

next few years should • show a big increase. "The day of the home laundress is passing, and the next few years will find few of today’s young women willing to earn their living taking in washings. The present slump is only temporary, caused in part by regular laundry customers diverting thenbusiness to home laundresses w-ho need work, forgetting that hundreds of power laundry employes are' dependent on work for a living.” Harmful effects of cut-throat competition, and a plan for frequent get-togethers to exchange efficiency ideas were discussed at an open forum session. The annual meeting will be held May 5 and 6 either at Bloomington or Kokomo, the city to be decided on later today.

in the eight years of his service as auditor, he deserves the thanks of the Marion county taxpayers. Harry’s records reveal that the 1870 county commissioners determined Marion county needed a courthouse. Such a construction job meant plenty of contracts and patronage, so, like all county commissioners, past and present, they decided that was excuse enough to do a little building. Bond issues totaling $1,350,000 were voted to pay for constructing and furnishing the new courthouse. Being generous-hearted boys, and feeling that the people could afford to pay, the interest rate was fixed at 10 and 8 per ce^|. The commissioners, imbued with the Gothic spirit in architecture, specified spires, towers, cupolas, columns and everything possible to

Newsie’s Nearsightedness Brings Arrest and Whisky Seizure. A news vendor at the northwest corner of Pennsylvania and Market streets does not see very well, and today he stumbled into the greatest mistake of his life. Striding up to a parked car, the youth opened his newspaper sack, which was slun.< over his shoulder, leaned into the car and whispered: “Slip ’er right there, pal; slip 'er right there.” From the car came a booming voice: “Slip what, where?” The youth squinted and peered at three in the car. “Oh, my God,” he moaned. "This ain’t the car; it’s the one behind it.” The trio of occupants piled from the car and leaped to the running board of the one parked behind theirs as it pulled frem the curb. - Behind the front seat thejP found twenty-four pints of corn whisky, and, behind the wheel, Robert Gollada, 26, of 1102 North Capitol avenue. At police headquarters Gollada said the whisky sold for $1 a pint and he had been in the business two weeks. The three men who were told to “slip ’er there” were Sergeant Wayne Bear and patrolmen Sam Ritter and Ed Moore, one of the police department’s booze squads. RENEW FALSE ALARMS Pranksters Undeterred by Council Action: 442d Call Sounded. The first false fire alarm since the city council increased penalties was tapped out Tuesday night from a call box at Maryland and Leota streets. This made the fake alarm total for the year 442, establishing a record in the history of the local department. City councilmen Monday night placed maximum punishment for persons guilty of turning in false alarms at six months in jail and S3OO fine, or both. RUM SEIZURE CLAIMED Cops Raid Home of Clarence Boatman; ATege Whisky. Alky Found. Raiding nome of Clarence W. Boatman, 545 East Thirty-first street, police say they confiscated three pints of whisky and two ounces of grain alcohol Tuesday night. Sergeant John Eisenhut said Boatman was not home when the raid was made, but word was left with relatives for him to appear at headquarters^

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make the building an elaborate affair. So successful were they that today the courthouse is as obsolete as a Brush automobile and as hard to keep Mean as a kindergarten class turned loose in a mud patch. It finally was erected. For a few years the bonds were redeemed. Then politics intervened, as it has a custom of doing, and the debt lingered on, interest was paid on the dot, but the bonds were not redeemed —merely renewed. When Dunn became auditor Jan. 1, 1923, he took a look at the books and was aghast. * Fifty years had elapsed since the original bonds were issued, and of the $1,350,000 the county still owed SBOO,OOO. In addition, $2,000,000 had been paid as interest. "I decided right then and there that the debt should be reduced,” Dunn said. Reduced by $200,000 By saving balances remaining in the county treasury he was able, by the end of 1925, to reduce the debt $200,000. He did the same in 1926, and again in 1927. This cut the total owed on the courthouse, exclusive of interest to $200,000. But Old Man Politics, the original Hoosier pioneer settler, stalked upon the scene. It seems that Omer Hawkins, sheriff in 1927, wanted a road patrol. Dunn was lined up with the commissioners against such added expense, and so the county council declared that as a retaliatory measure Harry couldn’t make any $200,000 payments on the debt. That was to get even. But annual payments of $40,000 could be made and the debt was cut down that way. When Dunn Dec. 1 signs away another $40,000, the debt on the courthouse will have been reduced to SBO,OOO, and should be wiped out Dec. 1, 1933. Valued at $2,000,000 Interest on the original and renewal bonds issued by that date will have totaled $2,645,450 and the courthouse which started out as a $1,350,000 project will have cost the taxpayers almost $4,000,000. Today the obsolete, white elephant structure with the land upon which it is erected, which includes a city square in a valuable downtown location, is valued at $2,000,000. The equipment was appraised in 1926 at $84,927. The intrinsic value of the records contained in the building is estimated at $2,706,000 and in event it would be necessary to replace them, clerical hire would total $730,000, Dunn says. The next time Mr. or Mrs. Taxpayer passes the courthouse, take a look at the dirty, grimy building it took sixty-three years to pay for —that is, if Grossart finishes the bond redemption started by his predecessor, Harry Dunn. BETTER BUSINESS SEEN Three Encouraging Developments Cited by U. S. Bureau. By United Press WASHINGTON, Nov. 18.—A restoration of business confidence has been vindicated by recent developments in the domestic business situation, according to the department of agriculture’s analysis of the price situation for November. The summary listed the encouraging developments as: The organization cf the National Credit Corporation to strengthen banking conditions; a rise in certain commodity prices such as cotton and wheat, and a rise in industrial stock prices. Receivership Unsettled By Times Hyecial KOKOMO, Ind., Nov. 18.—Alter being informed that Charles T. Parson owned mortgage certificates of the closed Peoples’ Trust and Savings bank, Circuit Judge Joseph Cripe declined to appoint him as receive/. **

SMASHING ALL TARIFFS, FORD BUSINESS CURE We’d Be Better Off With None, He Says; Predicts Prosperity Return. ‘READY TO GO TO WORK’ Flays Hoarding and Avers Americans Have Lost Independence. BY RAYMOND CLAPPER United Press Staff Correspondent (CODVrißht. 1931. bv United Press in all countries. Reproduction in whole nr In part prohibited.) DETROIT, Nov. 18.—Henry Ford foresees the coming of "real prosperity”—not "feverish, speculative false prosperity, but real prosperity such as you can keep.” In his opinion, as expressed to the United Press in an exclusive interview, it will be such as "to make all previous prosperity look small.” He does not look for "recovery.” but for something better, and ne hopes “we don’t recover the old system” with a "bigger and better panic in, say, 1940.” incidentally, he expressed the view that business men would be better off, if there were no tariffs anywhere We have quit looking for Santa Claus, he says. We have quit waiting for miracles. We are ready to go to work. And we are making progress. "If we quit waiting for miracles to happen—and I think we have Quit —that is a long step forward,” he asserted. Always Is Painful "I am sure we are making progress and progress always is painful. If you want my opinion, ten years from now there will be much real prosperity—l do not mean feverish, speculative, false prosperity, but real prosperity such as you can keep, ; such as to make all previous pros‘perity look small.” "What is the outlook?” he asked repeating my question. "It depends whether you mean tomorrow or next year. Things will go along. Millions of people have steady work. There are parts of the country where they haven’t heard of the depression.” "We’ve learned something—no one now believes that we ever can avoid work. "There is no Santa Claus. The stock market is no substitute for daily labor. No one gets rich speculating in stocks. I know there is a belief that there were some lucky ones—but there wern’t. Use It or Lose It "Hoarding , . . there is another thing we have learned something about. We should have known better than ever to attempt it, with the example of Germany and other countries before us. There is a law of nature which says, use or lose. "If you don’t use your arm, you finally lose the use of it. It is the same with money. The American dollar is as sound as a nut now, but it w’ould not continue to be sound if everybody hid it away.” Ford feels that the average American has lost his independence. Our old American self-reliance has become flabby. And I don’t mean workingmen only. Business men, too, have fallen into the habit of having things done for them. That’s what a tariff does. "Business men would be better off if there wasn’t a tariff left anywhere in the world. Business would stand on its own feet.” "What about the man who can’t find a job?” I asked. Work for Everybody "There is work in this country for everybody,” Ford answered, “The work is here. The trouble is to connect it with payment. I believe there is a law that if a man does the work that he sees needs doing he will not lack for support. All work is paid for in one way or another. But a man must be a self-starter. The trouble is that so many are waiting to be cranked. There is a sense in which wages may become a dole, if they weaken a man’s initiative, The cities attracted many people who now are going back to the land. It is a good sign. On the land you do things yourself. You don’t wait for someone to hire you to do them It is that spirit of individual initiative that we need.” “I refuse to indulge in the ballyhoo about boom times, around the corner. Things will improve as soon as we improve. People do seem to be feeling more hopeful. I think one reason is that they have quit looking for Santa Claus. They know that everything is all right with the world except our human system of distribution, and the improvement of that is in human hands. Everything else works well.” NEED 25 LETTERS~TO SPELL NAME OF FISH And It’s Only Six Inches Long Says Hawaii Legion Head. "In the Hawaiian islands you can catch a muku-muku-nuku-nuku-apaai, ’ Adna G. Clarke, American Legion department commander of Hawaii, said today. "But it wouldn’t be good for much of anything, even a fish story. This fish is only about six inches long.’ Clarke, who is attending the American Legion commanders’ and adjutants’ conference in Indianapolis, teaches military science and tactics at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu. Drawing a deep breath, he said, “During the World war, I was chief of the pictorial section of the historical branch of the war plans division of the general staff of the United States army.” A title with a man like that ought to be good. “It means that I censored military pictures, ’ Clarke explain^.