Indianapolis Times, Volume 43, Number 154, Indianapolis, Marion County, 6 November 1931 — Page 22

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Talkj NG It Over BY JOE WILLIAMS

NEW YORK, Nov. 6.—1 have noticed that all the football experts manage to bat around .800 (at the very least) picking winners, and I have come to the conclusion that either the football expert is a very superior sort of wizard or else he has a very soft dodge. 1 am not prepared to say which is the true state ot afTairs but in glancing over the schedule of Saturday s games, 1 find a number of gridiron tussles, as I believe they are called, the outcome of which seems as obvious as Mahatma Gandhis knee cap. What X mean to say is that I am pretty sure I can pick them myself, and In order to make the operation seem reasonably adult. I would guarantee to pick them blindfolded, while juggling four silk hats. Os course there are usua'.iy four or five games on the schedule that call for profound and energetic guessing, but when these do not come off as per predictions they are blandly and anctuously marked down as upsets, form reversals and the malignant effects of the Hawley-Smoot tariff. Now let's take a look at some of the games that are to be played Saturday: Yale plays St. Johns. Well, at the risk of losing mv standing in the community as a prophet X am willing to take a long chance and go out on the limb and string with Old Eli. Cornell or Alfred? HMMMMMM. Let’s see. Heads or tails? Heads and It’s Cornell. That was a tough one. Maybe those football dopesters don’t have such an easy time of It at that. Now what? Syracuse and Western Reserve. Another tough one. Aside irom rolling up a total of 198 points, beating Florida. Penn State and Michigan State, and maintaining a clean slate since the start of the season Syracuse hasn’t done very much. On the other hand. Western Reserve is one of tiiose teams that fight to the last ditch, with their backs to the wall, weeing the red badge of courage and. like Decatur. are always for their country, right or Hoover. The only trouble with Western Reserve is that they never win any ball games. Even so and nevertheless and in the face of all the testimony to the contrary as well as the grand old dope, yours truly is going to take another rash gamble here and pick Syracuse. tt n n THIS is the first time yours truly has gone in for football exporting, but he is asking no quarter and giving none, and if his predictions in these three games fail to stand the acid test of time, he will beman enough to say along with whoever caid it first, “Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and make mine a cigar this time.” As I sav this looks like a soft racket and I could go on for hours ai a time picking the Yales over the St. John ses and the Cornells over the Alfreds ‘jut—well, sooner or later X would get down to the tough ones, and maybe in some strange manner I'd miss two or three and this would bring mv average down to .850 or something like that. They tell me when a football expert drops below .850 they throw him right out of the league and 1 should sav It serves him tollv well right. There are only about four games in the country that mean anything Saturday, and If you can ring up the winning numbers on all four of them you are an expert Indeed. New York university against Georgia at the Yankee Stadium. I'll have to go for Georgia in this one. Harvard vs. Dartmouth. Give me a ticket on Harvard. Northwestern against Minnesota. Any team that’s good enough to tie Notre Dame shouldn’t have any trouble with Minnesota. Southern California and Stanford. It won't be a contest. Southern California, of course. Don’t sav I didn’t tell you. lOWA WARRIORS LEAVE JSfi United Press lOWA CITY, la., Nov. 6.— After a forward passing and pass defense drill, thirty-five lowa gridders entrained Thursday night for Lincoln, where the Hawkeyes meet Nebraska Saturday.

Educators Suggest One-Day State Title Cage Tourney

An old discussion was revived at the state board of education conference Thursday night, involving an overhauling of Indiana high school athletics, particularly basketball. A. L. Trester, commissioner of the Indiana High School Athletic Association, attended the executive session of the education board

Independent, Amateur Football Gossip

A capacity crowd is expected at Brookside No. 2 Sunday when Oak Hiil Flashes meet Indianapolis Clubs in a game that may decide first place in the Ern-Roe City League. Flashes now share the lead with Spades. Oak Hill is favorite in advance dope, but Cubs are planning a surprise attack. Both teams will practice tonight. Tigers, after defeating their north side rivals last Sunday, will attempt to make it two straight in the win column when they meet R. P. C. Juniors in an Em-Roe Junior League game Sunday. Brightwood will tackle Holy Trinity in a feature battle Sunday at 2:30 p. in. Both teams are in top shape. Brooks, center; Slvder and Scotten. guards; Harry and Mann, tackles; Smith and Dickey, ends and H. Net?. K. Hornning. W. White and Buckshot in the back field, will be the Brightwood starting lineup. Irvington Troians will meet St. Pats Sunday at Pennsy park at 2.30 p. m Practice will be held Friday night at the home field at 7:30. Following players must, report Wood. Bottema, Hoilett, Rusie. Schneider. Gates, Hunt, Gallagher. Virt. Rousch. Rattan. Solzer, Gray and Collins. The R. P. C. football has a permit for Riverside park gridiron for Sunday and desires to schedule a game. Call Riley 9067 and ask for Mitchell PopchefT. The Ex-Collegians Negro football eleven wants a game for Sunday. The Collegians ■were scheduled with the Midways at Douglas park, but Manager Tinkley canceled the date. The club went to extra preparations for the Midways and is anxious to see action. Write Jack Hannibal 60West McCarty street, or call Drexel 3401. Boxing Relief Plan Studied Organization of Governor Harry G. Leslie's committee to study the advisability of helping promote an all-star boxing show for the purpose of providing funds for unemployment relief was completed Thursday. Lee Bays, Sullivan, was named chairman of the committee; James I. Veach, Indianapolis, secretary, and John Hickey, Terre Haute, treasurer. If the show is held. Indianapolis is expected to be the site. Wellknown matchmakers will be interviewed on the subject of promotion. Whether the program will be headlined with boxers of national prominence, or with bouts involving the most prominent Indiana boxers, including several state champions, was left for future decision. MAKES A GOLF ACE Dr. Lacey L. Shuler, member of Highland Golf and Country Club playing at Meridian Hills course, turned in a hole-in-one on tha 134yard No. 6 hole.

THREE PURDUE REGULARS OUT OF CENTENARY FRAY

Two Line Stars Out Kizer Stresses Defense Against Gents’ Speedy Attack in Practice. Hu Time* Special LAFAYETTE. Ind., Nov. 6.— With three varsity pastimers on the sidelines with injuries, Purdue’s Boilermakers face a severe test in their intersectional battle with Centenary here Saturday. The Gentlemen from the southwest have been beaten but once this season, bowing to the strong Southern Methodist machine two weeks ago. Among their five victims are Baylor and other sectional foes. Centenary boasts spectacular open running and passing attack, and Coach Noble Kizer has had his squad hard at work on defensive formations this week. In Thursday’s final brisk drill session, Kizer polished the Boilermaker attack in a short scrimmage. With Calvert and Letsinger, regular linemen, definitely out with injuries, Merz probably will start at end Saturday, and Westerman will hold down Letsinger’s guard post. Paul Pardonner, speedy sophomore, will be seen in the quarter back assignment with Jack White, veteran ace, on the injured list. Kizer devoted considerable time Thursday to the improvement of blocking on scoring plays. Purdue’s passing plays also were given a long trial.

4,696 Hoosier Youths Play on 99 State H. S. Football Squads

Nearly 5,000 high school boys, all holding physicians’ certificates stating they are physically fit to play football and parents’ certificates permitting them to take part in the game, are on file in the offices of state high school principals, A. L. Trester, commissioner of the Indiana High School Athletic Association, said today. Recent criticism of the operation of high school sports programs by

100,000 to See Irish-Penn, Gopher-W ildcat Struggles

BY GEORGE KIRKSEY United Press Staff Correspondent CHICAGO. Nov. 6.—New football laurels await Notre Dame and Northwestern if these two powerful gridiron machines —ranked the best in the mid west—continue their undefeated campaigns in Saturday's crucial battles. Pennsylvania comes out of the east with an undefeated team to engage Notre Dame at South Bend and Minnesota comes down from the northwest to dispute Northwestern’s claim to Big Ten supremacy in a home-coming game at Evanston. Close to 100.000 spectators will sse

Thursday, in defense of the I. H. S. A. A. The state education group attacked the plan of title play last year after reports of drinking and other bad conduct among students attending the tourney in Indianapolis had been received. Action was dropped when Attorney-Gen-eral James M. Ogden ruled the board’s powers were limited in bringing witnesses to proceed with the investigation. Among the board’s suggestions were proposals to reduce the present state finals tourney to one day and limit the number of season’s games to sixteen. A one-day tournament would eliminate most of the social problems of the meet. William Wirt of Gary said. Other charges made by the board included overemphasis of a team's victory record and too much attention to varsity athletes with loss of attention to physical education for all high school students.

Early Basketball

Indiana National Bank basketball team defeated Blue Demons Thursday night. 41 to 12. The accurate passing and shooting of Harris and None featured the offense, while Turney and Mann starred on defense. The winners are pointing for their game -with Reserve Loan and Life next Tuesday in the Bankers-Insurance League For games eall Dr. 2157-W. or write the Indiana National Bank. R. Harris. Final basketball meeting will be held at Central Christian Church at 8 p. m. Monday to draw im the schedule for the coming year. There are openings for two girl teams and three boy teams. All Sunaay School managers interested are invited to attend. Teams interest in securing access to ole Butler gym call J. E. Baldwin. Irvington Reserve Loan Life Insurance five would like to book a game for next Tuesday oi \\ ednesday night with some team having access to a gym. St. Joseph, notice. Cal! George Sunkel. Drexel 3794, ring 4. Brooklyn Spades desire games with city and state teams in the 18-20-year-old class. Spades have open dates in November and December. Write or call Kenneth Suddith, Brooklyn. Ind. Fisher Independents have organized £ fast traveling squad and would like tc book road games. Write Dallas Miller Fishers. Ind. Circle City Basketball League, with six church teams entered, will play a series of three games each Wednesday night starting Nov. 18 at 7:15 p. m. at East Tenth gym.

Thursday Fight Results

AT WATERBURY. Conn.—Dave Shade. California. 159. debated A1 Gainer, New Haven Negro. 168 ilOt: Billy Donohue. 161. knocked out Mike Toronto, Bridgeport. 169 (41. AT PATERSON. N. J.—Sid Lampe, 123. Baltimore, defeated Walter Chapman 127 Elizabeth <Bl. AT MUNCIE —Peewee Jarrell. Mishawaka welterweight, outpointed Herb And-rson Muncie. ten rounds. Luis Caroentero Toledo bantam, defeated Kid Woods Indianapolis. ten rounds. AT EV \NSVILLE—BiIIy Frick. Evansville. outpointed Harold Fariss. Marshall 111. lightweight in ten fast rounds: f.arrv i Kidi Kaufman. Louisville middleweight defeated Harrv Curtis. Flint. Mich AT VINCENNES —Nick Breeiio. Herrin (111.* welter, won judges' verdict over Frankie Stevens. Boston, ten rounds. Johnnv Nasser. Terre Haute, knocked out Dale McClelland. Lawrenceville, in the semi-windup;

Busy Man

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Clarance Munn

He’s the only “quintuple” threat guard in captivity. Munn of Minnesota is a great defensive guard and a stellar blocker who runs interference with the best of ’em. He also does all the punting for the Gophers, throws a lot of passes, drops back to carry the ball every now and then, does the place-kicking for extra points, and in between breaths, finds time for captain duties. He’s a busy man, this all-America candidate, who is a home-loving married man besides.

officials and persons in various sections of the state, due to a few serii ous injuries and one fatal accident during the present football season, I were the objects of Trester’s statement. ! “There are 4.696 boys taking part in ! football practice and playing programs in ninety-nine schools who are members of i the I. H. S. A. A..” Trester said. “Each ; boy was examined by a physician and ob- | tained written consent of his parents be- • fore he was permitted to play. Trester said the questionnaire sent out \ recently, seeking accurate information of injuries sustained by boys playing football

these two conflicts, features of Saturday's mid-west program which includes three Big Ten games, four intersectional battles and a Big Ten-Big Six duel. Approximately 50,000 are expected at the North-western-Minnesota game, which to all intents and purposes will decide the Big Ten title, and more than 40.000 are expected to see the Notre Dame-Penn struggle. The biggest crowd in the midwest is expected for the Ohio StateNavy game at Columbus, where some 60,000 will be on hand Two southwestern teams, Arkansas and Centenary, come north to meet Chicago and Purdue, respectively, in two intersectional games. lowa plays Nebraska at Lincoln. Besides the Northwestern-Min-nesota game, the Big Ten schedule calls for conference competition between Michigan and Indiana at An n A or and Wisconsin and Illinois at Urbana. Michigan and Wisconsin are favored. Another mid-west intersectional game brings together Marquette, ocaten only 1/ Detroit, and Washington & Jefferson at Milwaukee

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THE INDIANAPOLIS TIMES

7 Bouts in Hall Arena Christner and Schwake Top Bill Tonight; Other Features Offered. One of the heaviest mitt entertainments of the indoor season is promised at Tomlinson hall tonight when the Washington A. C. pre- ; sents two nationally known heavy- | weights, K. O. Christner and John Schwake, to head a bill calling for | forty rounds of milling. Sprinkled through the card of ; seven bouts are several new T comers jto local fans. Action will start at 8:30. In addition to the Christnerj Schwake heavyweight feature, big fellows also will clash in the semiwindup of eight rounds, Marion Youngstaffel meeting Chet Shandel. In other bouts will appear middleweights, welterweights, feather- ; weights and flyweights. The complete program: Ten Rounds—K. O. Christner. Akron. O. vs. Johnny Schwake, St. Louis.. Heavy- 1 weights. Eight Rounds—Marion Youngstaffel, Vincenes. vss. Chet Shandel.. Heavyweights. Five Rounds—Joe Wolcott. Boston, vs. Rosy (Kid) Baker, Anderson. Middleweights. Five Rounds—Randall Clore. Crawfords- | ville. vs. Jimmy Burgess. Indianapolis. ! I Middleweights Four Rounds—Lee Bradv. Indianapolis. ! ; ys. Benny Glerm, Indianapolis. Welter- j weights. Four Rounds—Billy Watson, Indian- j apolis. vs. Bobby Vernon, Indianapolis. Featherweights. Four Rounds —Leonard Chapman, In- j dianapolis. ys. Leo Lanigan. Indianapolis. ; Flyweights. Officials—Referees. Heze Clark and Jim- ! mv Coolev; judges. Claude Wolff and Walter Williams; timekeeper, E. L. South: announcer. Harry Geisel.

how the injury was received, who paid the bill for medical attention and other information that later will be used in arriving at an insurance premium amount, also will be used to cover injuries received in basketball. Trester said the I. H. S. A. A. is interested in insuring all high school athletes. The figures showing there are ninetynine schools and 4,696 boys playing football, show's an increase of three schools and 450 boys over last year. Shortridge of Indianapolis wrestled the lead in numbers from Technical, the local north side school having 127 bovs out this fall against 68 last year. Tech has 110 playing this fall, against 125 last fall. Manual jumped from 71 last year to 92 this fall. Broad Ripple from 27 to 33 this vear and Washington, with 80 boys out last year, dropped to 75. Out in the state, Horace Mann leads the Gary schools with 86 boys while Logansport has 82 out for the grid sport. Central of South Bend has 95 boys out and Mishawaka, with 90 out in 1930. dropped to 66 this fall. Central of Evansville leads the pocket city with 68. while South Side leads in squad numbers in Ft. Wayne with 75.

Wabash Tries Out Reserves Itij Times Special CRAWFORDSVILLE, Ind., Nov. 6. —After making many shifts during this week’s practice, it is believed Coach Vaughan will present anew Wabash lineup when the Little Giants face the strong Franklin eleven here Saturday. Vaughan cut out heavy work Thursday and only light drill was carded today. Four changes in the Wabash line ere forecast and one in the back field, with Gingerish replacing Radford. Engel, Swartout and Meese are expected to remain in the balltoting department. Franklin is the favorite. NORMAL RIVALS MEET TERRE HAUTE, Ind.. Nov. 6. Indiana State Teachers college observed home-coming today, and one of the largest crowds of the season was on hand to see the Teachers battle Ball State in the rivalry grid tussle tonight. Both teams were reported in top shape.

ON AIR SATURDAY C. S. T. 12:45—0hi0 State vs. Navy, "TAM. Harvard vs. Dartmouth, NBC network, including W’FLA. WSM. WEAF. WOW. WCAE. WLW. WGJ, WEEI. WFI. W'DAY and KFYR. 1:30—Ohio State vs. Navy. CBS nettrorrk. including W'ABC. WPG. W'HK. WFBM. WXYZ, WSPD. KMOX. CFRB. I:4s—Northwestern vs. Minnesota. WCCO, KYW, WGN. KSTP. Kansas vs. Ames. WOI. Alabama vs. Florida. WBT, WGST. WDSC. W'TOC, WQAM, WREC. WLAC. 2:oo—Notre Dame vs. Pennsylvania. WKBF. WBBM, WSBT.

Teams Clash for All-City Grid Honors High school pupils and prep grid followers gathered at Delavan Smith field this afternoon to view the important battle between Manual and Cathedral elevens. The all-city high school title was at stake, Manual already having won the city public high school crown. Kick-off was set at 2 o’clock and an overflow crowd was, expected to be on hand. Both teams were reported in shape for a hard game. The rival machines have posted outstanding records this fall by playing alert and aggressive football. Coach Harry Painter's Manual warriors are the surprise local eleven of the season and were expected to offer a real fight today despite the fact pre-game opinion favored the Irish of Cathedral to capture the afternoon laurels. QUAKERS LOSE - CENTER RICHMOND, Ind., Nov. 6.— Coach Ross today started search for a center candidate to replace James Stanley of Muncie, reserve, who received a broken leg in scrimmage Thursday. Hull will be the only pivot available for duty Saturday when the Quakers go to Ohio for a game with Bluffton.

Amateur Three-Cushions j

WALTER RAMSEY LOSES ST. LOUIS. Nov. 6. —Walter Ramsev. Indianapolis. Thursday lost to Harold Wills. University City. Mo., in the southern division, southern sectional amateur threecushion cue tourney. Score was 50 to 37. in seventy-seven innings. Ramsey has won two tourney matches. Best high run was a five bv the Hoosier. Gene Deardorff. St. Louis, took the tourney lead bv, downing L. M. Dieckmeyer Thursday. 50 to 45. in 109 innings. CHAMPION IS UPSET CHAMPAIGN. 111.. Nov. 6.—ln the northern division of the southern sectional three-cushion tourney. Walter Schweitzka. Chamnaign. Thursday downed Frank Fleming Champaign, national amateur champ. 50 to 34. in seventy-one innings. Harry Hagen. Decatur. 111., defeated George Sheffer. Champaign. 50 to 41. in seventy-six innings. Hagen and Jones of Indianapolis are tied for tourney lead. CHICAGO HOPES HIGH lip United Press CHICAGO, Nov. 6.— Coach A. A. Stagg said today his Chicago Maroons will enter the Arkansas game Saturday with the strongest team Chicago has had isnee the Michigan game, when injuries first began to weaken the team. Gene Buzzell, half back, will be out of the game with injuries, however. BLUE YEARLINGS WIN Shortridge frosh footballers nosed out Cathedral yearlings Thursday, 6 to 0, Riger’s late touchdown giving the Blue the victory margin. MANUAL FROSH WIN Manual freshman, led by Hoyt and Hutton, defeated Washington yearlings at the south side field, 13 to 6. Both teams turned in topnotch performances.

Tigers Defend Clean Record Against Ohio

By Timrs Special GREENCASTLE. Ind., Nov. 6. De Pauw's hopes for an unbeaten campaign will be in the balance when the undefeated Tigers collide with Ohio university Bobcats, three-times champions of the Buckeye conference, here Saturday. With the exception of a 7-to-6 setback by Indiana U. at the start of the 1931 campaign, the Bobcats have not lost a game in three seasons. Defense has been stressed through-

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out the week by Coach Gaumy Neal in preparation for the battle. Don Wheaton, flashy ball toter, will not be in the Tiger starting lineup. Neal said today, but will be held in reserve. Miner Myers, veteran guard, is out with a knee injury. TECH, MANUAL TIE A touchdown in the final minutes of play gave Tech freshmen a 6-to-6 tie in a hard-fought grid tussle with Manual at the east side field Thursday.

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Wrong Again SOUTH BEND. Ind.. Nov. 6. —When Frank Carideo. twice all-America quarter back, departed from Notre Dame last season, football followers remarked: “There’ll never be another Carideo." Well, they were wrong. Notre Dame has three more Carideos. They are Fred Jr., freshman quarter back, a brother of Frank; Angelo Jr., a cousin, who also plays on the frosh squad, and James, another brother, who does not play football. All are from Mt. Vernon, N. Y.