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Suicide in 24 Hours I Vas Warning Given by St ary Faith full Cunard Line Doctor Speeds Across Ocean With Letter From Beauty, Victim in Death Mystery; Other Clews Followed by Authorities. c tarr Faithfull s life. In story and pictures, on Page 10. (CoovrUht. 1331. bv United Press) \ORK, June 18.—A letter which Dr. James Carr, ships doctor of the steamer Franconia received from Starr Faithfull under date of June 4 indicated that she ‘fully premediated suicide within twenty-four hours” of the date of its dispatch, according to Cunard line information given Detective Inspector Herbert R. King of Nassau county today. King, in announcing this, did not, however, give any direct quotations from the letcr the girl sent Carr. Moreover, he admitted that there still are angles in the case which do not make a letter of this moody, overwrought girl necessarily conclusive that she took her own life.

Meantime, Dr. Carr himself was on the steamer Laconia hound for Nets York and ready, according to King, to go before the grand jury to aid the authorities in their efforts at clearing the mystery of Starr’s death. But, he made it clear in a wireless message to the United Press, that he expects a. release from these “obligations” which a doctor like a priest must keep to those who confide in him Helped in Dark Moments Carr, long in the British line service', helped her tremendously in some of her darker moments, the family has revealed, and they say that she vas stunned and hurt when he sharply told her May 29 that he did not want hci coming to his cabin on the Franconia. At that time, the girl advised him, according to the Falthfulls, that he never would see her again. But the Faithfulls say this was not a suicide threat. Carr may know, too, of some hitherto unidentified men who met her on the Franconia on May 29 before she was put ashore from a tug in a drunken state. His knowledge of the girl, said Carr, was due to his professional status, though the Faithfull family says that they and he had met on a social footing. No Thought of Suicide The United Press learned today that the girl had talked of suicide sometimes, but never convincingly. However, the family says that she was in an unusually bright and cheerful mood when she left home two weeks ago Friday—not to return Suicide, they say, evidently was the last thing in her mind, and such a theory docs not explain the bruises on her body, the sand In her throat, or the only partial drugging with veronal. Her stepfather, Stanley Faithfull, was closeted again with authorities at Mineola, while others of the family announced that they had been advised private detectives were shadowing them. Checks Starr's Movements Meanwhile, Martin W. Littleton, Jr., asistant district attorney, has been conducting an investigation here for the last two days in an effort to check up on the girls movements from the time she left home on Friday, June 5, until she met death in the sea. No information lias been given out on the exact nature of his investigation, but it is known that a blond girl employe of a Fifth avenue store, who is supposed to have lunched with Starr on the day she disappeared, is being sought. Search also continued for two men known only ns Jack Greenaway and Bruce Winston, though! to be actors. Charles W. Anderson, a Greenwich village artist, also has been questioned about liis knowledge of the girl. He told police he had hired her on one occasion several months ago to pose for him. but that he had not seen her in some time. He will appear before the grand jury Friday. ‘POST' 2 DAYS EARLIER Magazine Will Appear on Tuesday Instead of Thursday Hereafter. By United Press PHILADELPHIA June 18.—Tire Saturday Evening Post will change its release days from Thursday to Tuesday, effective next week, it was announced by the Curtis Publishing Company today. The magazine has been distributed on Thursdays since 1898. It was explained that the change will be made In order to give two more reading days in the week of issue. The company also announced that the release dates on the Ladies’ Home Journal and the Country Gentleman will be set forward, beginning with the August issues, the former to the second Friday and the latter to the third Tuesday preceding the month of issue.

Costly Trials By United Press VALPARAISO, Ind., June 18. —Porter county has totaled its bill against Lake county for the two trials of Virgil Kirk-land-Arlene Draves case and will ask payment of $6,598.97, according to County Clerk Mae London. Os this amount Jurors received $2,821.10. Special deputy hire and board and room for Jurors aggregated $2 200

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8,000 STICKERS PAID FOP, IN'3O 140.000 Issued, but Few Are Forced to Pay. Checking figures on 140,000 traffic stickers issued to motorists who violated the city’s traffic law during 1930, Captain Lewis Johnson head of the traffic department, today announced that fines on 8,000 had been paid. He said records showed 25,000 had been issued to corporations which can not be held liable under the city ordinance and 75,000 were placed on cars of out-of-town persons or Indianapolis residents who gave foreign addresses. Police were unable to locate 15,000 persons; 4,900 stickers were placed on cars, the titles of which were made out in more than one name, and 5,100 were destroyed by the offenders. He said he believed about 7,000 stickers had been “fixed” by political and friendship "pulls” during the year. PANTAGES JURY SPLIT ‘Hopelessly Deadlocked’ and Dismissal Is Asked. By United Press SAN DIEGO, June 18. —The jury trying Alexander Pantages and three others on morals charges was "hopelessly deadlocked” at 10:30 a. m. today, when Foreman William Sutnner asked that it be dismissed. Judge L. N. Turrentine instead gave the jury additional instructions and ordered it to resume its deliberations for a few hours. "We have remained unchanged in our balloting since we began our deliberations.” Sumner informed the court. “I can’t see any agreement. The three ladies on the jury are worn and tired, and we ask a dismissal. ’ BANK BUYS BUILDING Indiana National Purchases Old Cathedral. Purchase of the old Scottish Rite cathedral. 29-35 South Pennsylvania street, by the Indiana National bank for approximately $200,000 was announced today following ratification of the sale by Adoniram Grand Lodge of Perfection. The eight-story building is immediately south of the bank, and the first floor may be used to extend ■quarters of the bank, the remainder being rented. Since it was abandoned by the lodge in 1929, when the new cathedral was erected, the old building has been vacant. It was erected in 1894. DOX REACHES BRAZIL Huge Flying Boat Arrives at Bahia After Refueling. By United Press BAHIA. Brazil. June 18.—The Dornier DOX arrived here from Natal at 10:05 a. m. today after a halt at Maceio for refueling.

POOL TICKETS ARE SEIZED; ONE FINED

Denying baseball pool and horse race tickets they had in their possession were for gambling purposes!, four men today found an easy road to travel in municipal court today, only one of them being fined. Thomas Bennetetti, 205 McKim street, proprietor of a cigar counter at the Hotel Edwards, was charged with keeping a gaming device, police alleging they found a package of baseball tickets, three punch boards and another alleged chance game in his possession. He told Municipal Judge William H. SheafTer that the baseball ticket had been ‘‘left there by a man'' and that a baseball board was used to “stimulate trade." Shcuficr withheld judgment aft-

ARTHUR SAPP SELECTED FOR ROADSBOARD Huntington Man, Former Head of Rotary, Is Leslie Choice. MURDEN QUITS BERTH Governor Denies Trouble With Peru Man; Business Called Reason. Arthur H. Sapp of Huntington was appointed a member of the state highway commission today by Governor Harry G. Leslie. He succeeds Jess Murden of Peru, known to state leaders as the "little

Governor,” whose resignation was accepted. Announcing the name of Sapp, past president of Rotary International, and chairman of the state school aid commission after the 1929 legislature session, Governor Leslie said: "Now r , I believe I have a commission with which no one can find

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fault.” No Trouble With Murden Leslie explained that Murden’s business matters required all his attention, and declared that he had had no differences with the Peru man. Announcement of the Sapp appointment was made by the Governor to members of the highway commission at a meeting attended by Albert J. Wedeking, chairman: Robert Boren, Fountain City, and A. P. Melton of Lake county. Murden did not attend the meeting, but John J. Brown, state highway director, was there. Leslie pointed out that with Melton, an engineer, and Sapp, a lawyer, as members he now has a wellbalanced board. Regrets Murden Departure "I deeply regret that Jess resigned, because he w r as an able member of the commission and devoted much of his time to the conduct of its affairs,” declared the Govenor. That no rift had developed between Leslie and Murden was evidenced by the fact that when Mur-, den loft late Wednesday for his summer cottage on Lake Manitou, where many closed commission conferences have been held of great importance to the state, he took with him for a short vacation Robert and Dick Leslie, the children of the Governor. The resignation came as a surprise and when Murden w'as asked Wednesday noon by newspaper men whether there was any truth in a rumor that he was giving up his post he answered: "Why should I?” Appointed by Jackson Appointed by Governor Ed Jackson on April 17, 1928, Murden’s term had ten months to go. For months he has been the focal point of the steady fire. His favoring of "black top” road material had attracted state-wide attention and during the senate investigation of the highway department’s failure to collect millions in federal road aid funds, the "little Governor” was the target, A little more than a month ago the statehouse reverberated to the reports of a battle between him and Highway Director Brown over the question of ousting William J. Titus as chief engineer of the department. An "armed truce” was maintained after Brown rushed into the Governor's office and shouted his ultimatum: "If Titus goer,, I go also and then ” The result of the threat was muffled, but it resulted in the Governor interfering in the interest of peace. BABY CHOKED TODEATH Head Caught Between Uprights of Bed, Child Perishes, His head caught between uprights on the bed, Jackie Lee Jaynes, 7-weeks-old, son of Mr. and Mrs. Marion Jaynes, 831 Washington avenue, choked to death Wednesday afternoon. Mrs. Jaynes told Coroner Fred W. Vehling she had nursed the baby at 10:30, and when she returned shortly after noon the child was dead.

er Deputy Prosecutor Ed Brennan recommended the action. Grover Harding, 530 North West street, was discharged by Scheaffer on a gaming charge but was fined $5 and costs for operating a gift enterprise. Police said they saw him handing baseball tickets to another man who fled. Others discharged were John Allen, Negro, 218 West Walnut street, and Mike Lanoff, 1397 Kentucky avenue. Two slot machines were confiscated by police and federal agents today when they raided a place at 3200 South Meridian street, operated by Frank Spaaorcia. He and his wife, Gertrude, were arrested. Police said a smidl quantity of liquor was lound.

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Top Photo—Billy Cossell, who was in death's bed, promises as he sits up with his daddy, Charles Cossell, that he’ll never swim in creeks and unsupervised beaches again. Lower Photo—Waiting for word of Billy’s condition sit his two mates on Billy's porch. Left to right, John Long and Joe Vollmer.

LINDY TO FLY GREAT CIRCLE Route Will Be by Hudson Bay, Alaska, Aleutians. By United Press NEW YORK, June 13.—Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh announced today he would take the northern great circle route on his flight with Mrs. Lindbergh to the Orient. ‘‘That will take us,” he said, "tq Hudson bay, thence to Point Barrow, Alaska, thence over Bering Strait and the Aleutian islands, and thence along the coast of Asia to Tokio and other cities and to Peiping. I can not say now where else we will go. "I shall test my plane for load within a few days, but I don’t want to carry any more weight than is absolutely necessary. For that reason, I shall arrange to have gas supplied at some point on Hudson bay and at Point Barrow and perhaps elsewhere. “My Lockheed plane is now at College Point, being fitted with pontoons. Mrs. Lindbergh and 1 are looking forward to the experience with immense anticipation. ’ He said they would share the piloting, but that he probably would do most of it. Lindbergh would not discuss the possibility of a soio flight from the Orient back to the United States. GET $50,000,000 ORDER Glass Company Given Huge Contract by Genera! Motors. By United Press NEW YORK. June 18,—A contract for its glass requirements for the next seven years, involving more than $50,000,000, has been awarded to the Libbey-Owcns-Ford Glass Company by the General Motors Corporation, it w'as announced here today. This order was believed to be the largest In the history of the glass industry. Mining Engineer’s Wife Dead "WASHINGTON, June 18. —Mrs. Johns Hays Hammond Sr., wife of the famous mining engineer, died at her home today. All members of the family were present except' Richard P. Hammond, who is in school in Paris. Mrs. Hammond ! had been ill several weeks.

Small Boys ‘Put On the Dog ’ for Hoover CLIFTON FORGE, Va., June 18.—A dozen small boys and their tw'o dogs hold President Herbert Hoover’s interest while the presidential special made a brief service stop today at Hinton, W. Va. About 200 people were there and the small boys, one with red hair, several with knickers dropping down to their shoe tops, crowded close in around the rear platform to get a close look at the President. One of them held his dog up to see the President and to be seen by Mr. Hoover. “What kind of a dog is that?" Mr. Hoover asked, leaning over and smiling. “Alaskan dog," the red-haired bov replied Bashfulness overcame the lads and several further attempts by Mr. Hoover failed to elicit coherent responses. “I guess we ought to start a dumb school," the President finally said as he waved a farewell to the boys. At the head of a large crow’d here was a large Negro, dressed in a stovepipe hat, Prince Albert coat, light checked trousers and huge cigar. Trailing at his heels were a dozen Negro children. Mr. Hoover spotted a small boy in overalls and baseball cap. “School out?" Hoover asked. “Yas, sir,” the boy replied. “This isn’t occasion for serious address, but is nice to see you all,” Hoover said. “Good trout fishing around here." a man shouted “That the most encouraging thing I've heard this morning,” Hoover said.

BY ARCH STEINEL Thankfulness bundled up with prayers and "Gosh, I’m glad,” stood on the porch of 914 North Pershing avenue today because death had looked an 11-year-old boy in the eye, held him as its own for five minutes, and then passed by. The thankfulness came from the parents of William Cossell, 11, of the Pershing avenue address, and the "goshes” from hfe buddy playmates, who aided in saving him from drowning in Eagle creek after he had been in the water five minutes. As for William in his bed at home, he does not remember "death’s arms clasped upon him. "It was just black. That's all. But I’ll be all right. I’ll be out playing tomorrow.” tt tt tt BUT his parents say it'll be quite a few tomorrows, for they don’t want to take a chance of a relapse due to exposure. The near-drowning occurred when William with John Long, 10, of 912 North Pershing, and Joseph Vollmer, 770 North Pershing, went to the home of William’s uncle in the 3900 block on West Vermont street to do a little "mud-crawling” in Eagle creek. The youths could not swim. "Some big boy came along and wanted us to go in and see how deep the water was,” explains John. w u ‘•t ii TELL, Joe and I wouldn't W go, but Billy said he would. He got in and went under. Joe and I formed a chain with our hands and tried to pull him out. We slipped and lost him. We tried to find a\tree limb to throw him, but we couldn’t find one we could break off. Then’s when we ran for help.” John said. Five minutes elapsed before the boys could find someone who coi'ifi swim. John Weekley. 29, of 510 North Tibbs avenue, a fisherman, answered their call and after difficulties brought the boy ashore. Police first-aid restored life. He was taken to the city hospital and returned to his home today. "We ain’t going swimming no more this year. No sir-ree,” promise his playmates, as they make hourly trips to William's home to inquire as to his condition. PROFESSOR IS KILLED SAN FRANCISCO. June 18.—Dr. Guido Vilvaldi, 26, recently a guest professor of philosophy at Harvard university, died today from injuries suffered Wednesday in an elevator.

PROBERS HINT ‘BALL PLAYING’ WITH[POOR AID Graft Charges Lead to Assertions Politics Ruled Relief. SCAN CAMPAIGN FUNDS Grocers and Coal Dealers Helped Mrs. Harding in Her Race. BY SHELDON KEY Charges that feeding the poor was used as a political handball by Mrs. Amelia Harding, former Center township trustee, brought anew angle today in the state board of accounts’ probe into charges of wasteful distribution of poor aid funds. Grocerymen and coal dealers, several of whose accounts have been under scrutiny of the state board, contributed more than $2,200 toward Mrs. Harding's unsuccessful campaign for re-election last fall. This was disclosed by an examination of a report on campaign donations received for the general election, Nov. 4, 1930, filed in the county clerk’s office. Grocer Gives $250 One grocer, H. J. Boston, 349 Market house, who delivered poor relief baskets to two courthouse employes receiving large salaries from the county, advanced $250 as a campaign gift to Mrs. Harding. A coal dealer, Bert Hitzelberger, whose poor relief bills were questioned by county commissioners, gave Mrs. Harding a check for SSOO. A large portion of coal for poor familics in Center twonship during 1930 was delivered by this company, county commissioners declare. Tile state board of accounts probe disclosed instances of two to four tons of coal delivered to single families during December. Expenditures for Mrs. Harding’s campaign, which totaled $2,173.42, were high in comparison to other candidates, the report discloses. Contributions for her totaled $2,244. Sent Food to Friends The state boar dos accounts inquiry has revealed that Mrs. Harding, disregarding the county's already burdensome poor relief debt, had food baskets sent to her friends. One of these was a deputy sheriff and the other a present deputy county treasurer. After a two months’ check of Boston’s poor relief bills commissioners allowed him a claim of $17,104.36, deducting $10.74 for poor relief sent Fred Fox, deputy sheriff, and $14.32 for groceries given the family of Arch C. Phelps, deputy treasurer. Food and coal dealers and their contributions to Mrs. Harding’s campaign as listed by her political agent, Sumner Clancy, and filed in the clerk’s office are: A. W. Buescher, Weber Milk Company official, $140; H. J. Boston, $250; Jesse H. Mount, grocer, 1404 Prospect street, $100; W. B. Peak, grocer, 1638 Washington street, $240; A. M. Corey, grocer, 1840 East Forty-sixth street, $130; Bert Hitzelberger, coal dealer, $500; H. B. West, baker, $150; Foster Puntanney, grocery, 2001 Shelby street, $150; E. L. Flanagan, grocer, $100; W. R. Lee, grocer, $250; J. A. Solton, grocer, $150; F. Colman, grocer, SIOO.

RUTH TO START HOP Prepares for Takeoff on Flight Today. By United Press NEW YORK. June 18.—Ruth Nichols, holder of the woman's airplane altitude record, was preparing to leave the Floyd Bennett airport at Barren island today on the first leg of her trans-Atlantic solo flight attempt. Weather reports received late Wednesday night offered the prospect of clear skies at least as far as St. John, N. 8., but she was advised she probably could not safely negotiate the journey to Harbor Grace, Newfoundland, from which she plans to begin her ocean hop. Hourly Temperatures 6 a.'m 66 10 a. m 80 7a. m 69 11 a. m 82 Ba. m 75 12 inoom.. 84 9 a. m 78 1 p. m 85

TOOK PRISON 'RAP,’ NOW ASKS DIVOKCE

Serving part of a two-to-four-teen-year prison sentence, she says was to shield her husband, was more than a wife's love could endure, so today she was in superior court four fighting for a divorce. Mrs. Frances Boyd declared she was taking the “rap" for her husband, Clarence A. Boyd, when she was sentenced in criminal court April 12, 1930 on a forgery charge. Governor Harry Leslie intervened eight months later and paroled her from the Indiana State Woman's prison. She is seeking divorce on grounds of cruel and inhuman treatment, charging that her husband choked, kicked and beat her. The husband is charged with being irritable, quarrelsome and sullen during the last three years. ] Mrs. Boyd went to prison

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Minister Is Hanged in His Church by Kidnapers; Rescued Rope Stretches, Texas Pastor Stands oil Tiptoes for Hours to Cheat Death; Saved When Wife Worries Over His Failure to Return Home. By Ur.'.ttd Press DALLAS, Tex., June 18. —The Rev. B. P. Brown, 30, supply pastor of the North Dallas Baptist church, was found today hanging by a rope from a ceiling fan in the church. He was cut down alive. Brown said he was kidnaped shortly after midnight and taken to the church. He owed his life to the fact that tha rope was new and stretched, permitting his toes to reach the floor, although keeping him in agony for almost four hours. Police blamed members of the congregation for the kidnaping and declared it was the outgrowth of controversy between two factions.

STRIKERS AND GUARDS BATTLE Fight With Gas Bombs, Picks and Crowbars. By United Press ST. CLAIRSVILLE, 0., June 18 A series of pitched battles between strikers and mine guards occtirred in an outburst of disorder in the Belmont county coal strike area today. One man was injured seriously and three persons were arrested in the disturbances. The most serious disturbance occurred at the Florence mine Martins Ferry, where mine guardr employed tear gas bombs, crowbars and pick handles to repulse the pickets. One striker was seriously hurt by head blows inflicted with a erdwbar. He was taken to a Martins Ferry hospital. One striker was arrested. Further outbreaks were feared from a country-wide strike meeting scheduled for late today by the national miners’ union at the Bannock mine. Other disorders were reported at the Blaine mine, where two men were arrested, but no one was hurt. At this mine, presence of pickets caused 30 per cent of the workers to retire and join in the strike. A minor clash followed the walkout, but no casualties occurred.

SLAYER JIUNT TURNS Jackson Murder Still Is Mystery for Police. Search for the slayers of Lafayette A. Jackson, head of the Standard groceries, returned to Indianapolis and southern Indiana today, after detectives and witnesses failed to identify three suspects held in Chicago Wednesday. Chester Jackson, son of the slain grocery head, told county law enforcement authorities it was his belief a motive other than robbery was the cause of the slaying. From several sources in the last twenty-four hours, it has been rumored that the gunmen were hired for the murder. Chester Jackson j quoted one of the bandits as saying, (“Let him have it,” as he directed his gunfire at Mr. Jackson. YEAH, THEY DO SELL IT IN FUNNY PLACES Dry Agent Says He Bought Drink at Steam Bathhouse. | Liquor is sold in odd places these days, police and federal agents say. In proof, Sergeant John Eisenhut today offers records to show that Wednesday night he and federal agents raided a steam bathhouse at 320 East Vermont street, after it I was alleged an agent purchased a * drink there. Madam Julia Brooks, proprietor : of the bathhouse, was found ill in bed and police obtained a statement from her. Her daughter, Mrs. j Nettie Brooks McCain, 1470 North Pennsylvaia street, was arrested and bound over to the federal grand i jury. Police said they found several alcohol and whisky bottles on the ' premises.

after she pleaded guilty to forging contract papers in connection with her husband’s radio shop. These contracts, totaling approximately $6,500, were sold to a commercial acceptance company, testimony in court revealed today. Last December Mrs. Boyd appeared against her husband when he was tried in criminal court for conspiracy in the forging case and discharged. The court held a wife and husband could not conspire under the Indiana statute. The husband is not contesting the divorce suit, but is asking Judge Clarence E. Weir for custody of their three children. The wife also is asking custody and demanding sls a week for support of tho children, oldest of w hich is aged eleven.

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Mr. Brown was strangled badly by the rope. He was found by police after they had been notified by Mrs. Brown of his failure to return from the Adolphus hotel, where he supplements his ministerial earnings by serving a3 baggage clerk, “I work at the hotel every night; until 12 o'clock,'’ Mr. Brown said today. "Last night I took the bus for my home as usual. When I got off, across the street from the church and started to walk to my home, a few hundred yards away, a man ran up to me and said ‘lf you run I’ll shoot you dead.’ Halted by Gunman "He had a big nickel-plated pistol in his hand and a handkerchief face. Tie made me go with • the seclusion of a deep s. ..uow beside the church building. "Then he pushed me through one of the windows into the basement, and made me go upstairs into the main auditorium. Three other masked men were waiting for us. "Two of them grabbed me and stripped off all my clothes. Another produced anew rope. “ Have you any dying request to make’?” one asked, "my first intimation that they intended to kill me.” They then looped the rope around his neck and carried the nude preacher to his pulpit, where he remained suspended for four hours. Tie Rope to Pulpit They tossed the rope over the ceiling and tied it to the pulpit. Brown was hoisted two feet into the air. Another captor brought a chair and placed it below the preacher, just a fraction of an *nch below his toe. Brown struggled to reach It, but could not, he said, and the kidnapers chuckled and departed. Slowly choking in the darkness. Brown tried to reach the chair again a few minutes later and was surprised to find that he could. The rope had begun to stretch. Teetering at the end of the rope, just able to support himself with his toes and keep from choking, he stood there in the darkness, suffering agonies at the thought of what might be in store for hi* if his strength gave way. Mouth Is Taped Strips of adhesive tape were plastered across his mouth before he was hoisted into the air. It was less than four hours that he hung suspended from the ceiling, but it seemed endless as he waited, not knowing whether he would be missed or not. When the preacher failed to come home at his accustomed time, Mrs. Brown became alarmed and notified police. Inquiry at the hotel showed he had left as usual and then the search led to the church. Mr, Brown's groans quickly led the police to his side. The preacher was so exhausted tha/ he was compelled to take to his bed. Mr. Brown revealed he received a threatening letter, written in pencil on wrapping paper yesterday. It read: "Would you kill your best friend to remain pastor at North Dallas? "This is our way of torturing your heart. We could cut your heart out and drink your blood and love it.” He said that he had received other hostile letters.

Golfers on Air

Radio fans will hear school boy golf champions tonight over station WFBM between 7:30 and 7:45, Herbert Allen, 13, of School 67, grade school champion, and Edwin Beeson of Manual, and Walter Chapman of Tech, who fought it out today over the South Grove links for the sixth annual Indianapolis Times Interscholastic golf crown, will be interviewed by The Times Golf Editor. Tune in and listen to the boys tell about the shots that most thrilled them. Hear them tell about the grueling matches they have played in all week. "Herby” Allen will tell you this was the first tournament he ever played in, the grade school championship conducted by The Tin.es along with the high school championship. Get the low-down from Chapman and Beeson on their 36hole match today for the high school championship Don’t forget Tune in on station WFBM at 7 36.

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