Indianapolis Times, Volume 40, Number 133, Indianapolis, Marion County, 24 October 1928 — Page 3

OCT. 24, 1928

AL ROLLS UP SLEEVES FOR SMASH TO CLOSE CAMPAIGN

STARTS SWING IN EAST SET TO ‘BURNT FOES ‘Just Beginning to Fight;’ Stakes Hopes as in Past on Windup. HITS BOSTON TODAY Rousing Tour of Atlantic Seaboard Mapped for Remaining Weeks. BY PAUL R. MALLON United Press Staff Correspondent ALBANY, N. Y., Oct. 24.—With a lourish of his brown derby, Governor Alfred E. Smith bade goodjy to Albany today, setting out on the final tour of his presidential campaign. The special train of the Democratic nominee left here at 10 a. m. .in the road to Springfield, Worcester and Boston, Mass. The Governor was accompanied by Mrs. Smith and their daughter, Mrs. Emily Warner. Other members of the family will meet them when they arrive in New York Thursday. “Just Beginning to Fight” A'changed campaign demeanor could be noticed as he gathered up his papers for the final trip. The speech of his Republican opponent, Herbert Hoover, in New York Monday night, charging Smith with socialistic tendencies on farm relief, prohibition and water-power, had an unmistakable effect upon the “happy warrior,” his friends said. His papers burned with replies he expects to make in Boston tonight answering the Hoover speech, according to those who share his confidence. In his historic campaigns for the governorship Smith never has begun to fight until the last two weeks. With shrewd political fervor he always has bided his time. He regards the latest Hoover speech as the first real statement of issues from the Republican candidate —something which he may tear into as he has always torn into the arguments of his political opponents. 138 Votes at Stake The movements or his departure on this new adventure seemed entirely disassociated from the early part of his campaign. In his two swings through the west he had a luxurious train of eleven cars, the only chartered train a presidential candidate ever has used. Now ho has ordered only his private car St. Nicholas, owned by his friend William F. Kenny, the Brooklyn contractor, two ordinary Pullman cars for newspaper men and a club coach for the mimeograph' machines. It was as if he had just removed his coat, after a display, and rolled up his sleeves to go to work. In the thirteen days before election night, he expects to greet millions of people in Worcester, Springfield, Boston, Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, Waterbury, New Haven, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Newark, Trenton, Brooklyn and New York city. These citizens have 138 electoral votes, enough to swing almost any election. No Family Aflair This last thrust is to be no famiyl affair either. Only Mrs. Smith and one daughter, Mrs. Warner, will accompany him. There will be a continuous line of speeches and parades across the vital territory, beginning this morning with tenminute stops at Worcester and Springfield, Mass. A brass band will be playing the Democratic nominee’s campaign song, “The Sidewalks of New York,” as he arrives at South station at 3:30 p. m. Governor Smith will be taken on an automobile parade, terminating at the Parkman bandstand on Boston Common, where he will make the first of four scheduled Boston speeches. His other ad - dresses will be given at Mechanics building, Symphony hall and the Boston arena. At the arena, wbsre he will make his principal address, the Governor will be introduced by Mrs. Francis B, Sayre, daughter of the late President Wilson. This speech will be broadcast by a national network of twenty-seven radio stations. The time schedule for the next two days follows: Leave Albany at 10 a. m.; arrive Springfield 1 p. m.; arrive Worcester 2:35 p. m.; arrive Boston 3:50 p. m. Leave Boston Thursday 10:30 a. m., arrive Blackstone (R I.) 11:30 a. m. for parade through Providence; arrive at Hartford 4:05 p. m. (two-hour stop); arrive Waterbury 7:05 p. m.; arrive >erby Shelton 7:45 p. m.; arrive New Taven 8:21 p. m.; arrive Bridgeport "':56 p. m.; arrive South Norwalk :30 p. m.; arrive New York City 3:30 p. m.

. 'URTIS AND ROBINSON TO SPEAK IN INDIANA inning Mates of Both Parties to Be Heard Next Week. Vice presidential candidates will ’ heard in Indiana text week. Senator Joseph Robinson, will peak at Evansville next Wedneslay night; at Logansport Thursday \fternoon, Nov. 1, and at Ft. Wayne Thursday night. Senator Charles Curtis, will make his third invasion of the state Monday, speaking at South Bend. RADIO WINNERS NAMED Indianapolis and Gary Contestants Are Victors. W. Bromley House, 3003 Graceland avenue, and Miss Mary Studebaker Smith of Gary won the state audition contest of the Atwater Kent foundation, Mrs. Frank B. Hunter state chairman, announced today. The winners were selected from the vote of the radio audience over WKBF last wee& from the Severin.

Boss Vare on Job Again

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Recovering from a recent serious illness, Republican boss Bill Vare of Philadelphia is taking an active part in the political campaign. Here he is pictured in a wheel chair, in which he gets around to the meetings, , attended by a physician.

Urge Hoosier Clubwomen to Support College Bill

Departmental Reports Made at Club Federation Sessions. Hoosier clubwomen were ur&ed to support the all-time health unit bill, the junior colleg bill and the bill providing so rs’tate co-operation in the Shepperd-Towner maternity act by Mrs, Ella B. Kehrer, of Anderson, chairman of the department of legislation, at the convention of the Indiana Federation of Clubs at the Claypool today. District and department reports comprised most of the program today. Mrs. Kehrer urged clubwomen to fight dangerous legislation and visit the coming session of the general assembly frequently. Miss Forba McDaniels, secretary of the Indiana Bankers’ Association, in speaking on the subject of "Women and Money,” said women, who until recently had bee regarded only as spenders, had come to occupy a very important position as earners and investors. Luncheons were held by the Book-Lovers and the Conference of the department of legislation at noon. Reports were continued this afternoon. A dinner was to be given by the American home department at 5:45 p. m. at the Woman’s Department Club house, 1702 North Meridian street. A concert will be given by the De Pauw university choir this evening.

HELD FOR ROBBERY 'Diamonds’ Prove to Be Glass in Court. Diamonds in a ring and stickpin which he bought from Harry Hardackre, 28, of 1850 Holloway avenue, Monday night for $55, were just glass, N. Everest Newton, 27, of 701 Vi East Eleventh street learned in municipal court today. Newton charged that Hardackre, Mrs. Anna Earls, alias Miss Bobbie Wilson, 423 East North street, and Paul Edson, 21, Apt. 6, 232 Massachusetts avenue, beat him, stole the diamonds and about $125 and threw him from an automobile early on Tuesday at Twenty-first street and Arlington avenue, after they had had liquor. Hehad valued the ring and stickpin at $350 in his report to police. Hardackre admitted selling Newton the ring and stickpin, but said Newton lost the money in a craps game. Hardackre and Edson were bound over to the grand jury by Municipal Judge Jaul C. Wetter on robbery and grnad larceny charges and Mrs Earls was held for grand jury action on a robbery chcarge. N. Y. DAILY NEWS ASKS SMITH VOTES Tin United Pres* NEW YORK, Oct. 24—The New York Daily News today urged its readers to vote for Governor Alfred E. Smith for President in an editorial which called prohibition the only issue of the campaign. The News editorial, after pointing out the excellence of both Hoover and Smith as executives and expressing a belief that the views of the two candidates failed to disagree widely enough on any other question to make real issues, said Hoover would stand for prohibition laws as they now exist, and that Smith would use executive influence to bring about their modification. Dogs Registered as Voters ATLANTIC CITY, N. J„ Oct. 24. A pet parrot, dogs and house cats and men and women long dead are registered as voters here, according to charges by Prosecutor Louis A. Reppetto.

BURY HOOSIER AUTHORFRIDAY George Barr McCutcheon to Rest at Home. ftp United Press NEW YORK. Oct. 24.—The body of George Barr McCutcheon, novelist, who died of heart disease while at luncheon Tuesday with friends, will be taken to Lafayette, Ind., his home town, for burial Friday. McCutcheon, although he had been under treatment for the last eighteen months, died unexpectedly. He was stricken while conversing at his table. Excusing himself, he left the room and was found a moment later in a state of collapse. He succumbed before a physician could reach him. The author, who was 62, amassed one of the largest fortunes ever made by an American writer through bis books, among which were “Graustark” and “Brewster's Millions.” SUNDAY TO SPEAK Famous Evangelist at Cadle ' Tabernacle Tonight. A few choice epigrams about the presidential candidates are expected to be exploded by Billy Sunday, evangelist, when he delivers a temperance lecture in Cadle Tabernacle at 7:30 tonight. Tabernacle authorities said Sunday is being brought here by a committee headed by the Rev. Charlie Stewart, permanent evangelist of the tabernacle. Sunday was to arrive at 2 this afternoon from Memphis, Tenn., and to depart at 9:50 tonight for New York. His lecture will begin promptly at 7:30. The lecture will be free. A band will escort Sunday from the Hotel English to the Tabernacle at 7:15 p. m. stumpstump¥oi\T STATE FARM RELIEF Meeting’s Chairman Charges Robinson Is “Overly Pious.” By Times Special NOBLESVILLE, Ind., Oct. 24. Farm mortgage indebtedness in Indiana amounts to nearly $140,000,000, almost three times what it was prior to the world war, Albert Stump, Democratic nominee for United States senator, told Hamilton county voters at a rally here Tuesday night. “This should be evidence of the inequality of economic opportunity which is discriminating not only against the Indiana farmer, but the farmers throughout the United States,” Stump said. Ridiculing Arthur R. Robinson, Republican candidate for re-election as United States senator, for his “pious” stand on prohibition, State Chairman R. Earl Peters told the crowd that while Robinson was arguing from pulpits for enforcement of the Volstead Act, his law firm represented in higher courts of the state more bootleggers than any other ten law firms in Indianapolis. KILLS SELF FOR LOVER Fearing Invalidism if Wedded, She Commits Suicide. By United Press PARIS, Oct. Vi. —Rather than marry the man she loved and so saddle him with a wife who eventually would become an invalid, 29-year-old Maria Berthelot of St. Jean Kerdaniel, near St. Brieuc, ended her life.

THE INDIANAPOLIS TIMES

CLUB BATTLES BUS REROUTING ON NJERIDIAN Petitioners Ask Riverside Line Be Switched to Butler U. The Appian way, the Rue de la Paix and other famous streets and highways in ancient and modern history today were cited by Attorney Walter Pritchard to show public service commissioners why buses shouldn’t run on North Meridian street. Pritchard appeared before the commission to represent the Hoosier Motor club. The club, whose business offices are on North Meridian street, is objecting to a petition of the Peoples Motor Coach Company to operate buses there. “I object to comparing foreign countries with America,” David A. Watson, petitioners’ attorney, declared, and this 100 per cent Americanism brought the Appian Way to an abrupt terminus. r Butler Needs Cited The petition is based on alleged needs of Butler university and Shortridge high school students and residents in the vicinity of the new Butler for adequate transportation. Necessity of handling crowds attending games at Butler stadium and the field house also was emphasized by the petitioners. At present the street cars discharge passengers seven blocks from the place. While Pritchard sought to show that North Meridian street should be kept as a restricted highway for tourists and pleasure vehicles, numerous witnesses testified to the necessity of opening it to bus service for the sake of citizens and students. Among them were President Robert J. Aley of Butler, Emsley W. Johnson, Superintendent James Tretton, of the Indianapolis Street Railway Company; George Marott owner of the Marott hotel apartments, and Miss Nan Warren, Butler senior. Aley declared that the bus service was needed, but he was rather non committal in regard to Meridian street.

Promises New Busses Tretton handles the People’s Motor Coach Company traffic since purchase of that company by the street railway company. He told commissioners that if the petition is granted eight new busses will be placed in operation in ten days. The petition for rerouting Riverside busses on Meridian instead of Delaware street to Thirtieth street was presented after conference with Mayor L. Ert Slack, he said. This petition was involved in the hearing as well as the new Butler route. Smiley Chambers of the city legal department appeared and went on record as contending that the city authorities have the right to accept or reject the commission routing. Johnson and Marott both pointed out that business is going north on Meridian street and the bus line is needed. Johnson is a Butler trustee. Few Against Petitioners About fifty or more citizens, half of them women, attended the hearing, which continued this afternoon. Not more than six, all of whom were men and Meridian street property holders, sought to take the witness stand against the petitioners. The proposed new Butler bus route would proceed from the Circle up North Meridian street to Thirtysixth, west to Kenwood avenue, north to Thirty-ninth, west to Capitol avenue, north to Forty-sixth, west to Sunset avenue, north to Forty-ninth and then east to Capitol and return. Taking the Riverside buses off Delaware street would leave the Central and Keystone lines there, thus relieving congestion, it was pointed cut. BOY BRUISED BY CAR Lad, 6, Struck by Auto While in Front of Home. Fred Tegler, 6, of 1040 Harvey street, was bruised on the legs late Tuesday when he ran into the street near his home and was struck by an automobile driven by Frank Moore, 3311 Carson avenue. Police said the driver was not to blame. An automobile driven by Mrs. Emma Mcßride, 325 Chester avenue, struck Otto Hayward, 27, of 1353 East Minnesota street, at New Jersey and Prospect streets late Tuesday, police said. The officers took Hayward home. MUM ON MEETING Safety board members and Mayor L. Ert Slack today declined to comment on a two-hour secret session in the mayor’s office Tuesday. Board members went into a closed door session with Slack after the regular board meeting Tuesday to discuss “general matters of the department.” It was denied that a shakeup in personnel is contemplated. The board is known to have carefully checked the activity of a number of policemen and firemen with the view of eliminating the inefficient members.

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FLOYD COUNTY CHEERS DAILEY CLEANUP CRY Throngs Line Streets for Parade at New Albany; Speaks at Rally. Bn Timrs Special NEW ALBANY, Ind., Oct. 24. Thousands of Floyd county voters extended a welcome to Frank C. Dailey Tuesday night and cheered his pledge to rid the statehouse of “the Republican machine which broke faith with the people and cast a blot on the state’s good name.” Streets were lined for blocks as the parade headed by the nominee proceeded to the packed theater where Dailey’s address climaxed the rally. Roscoe H. Lewis introduced the nominee as "the next Governor of Indiana.” Champions Home Rule Dailey was applauded w’hen he voiced opposition to the interference of boards and commissions in matters of local government. The state board of tax commissioners, one of the objects of Dailey’s attacks, just had informed New Albany officials that it would not permit erection of a proposed engine house, following a remonstrance against the proposition by the Chamber of Commerce. The project would have cost approximately SB,OOO. “Three men in the statehouse should not be permitted to tell a local community what public improvement it can make and how much it may spend,” Dailey declared. “I favor the principle of home-rule.” Leslie Pledge Ridiculed He ridiculee the last minute promises of his opponent. Harry G. Leslie, for a political clean-up, and asserted Leslie alienated honest Republicans when as speaker of the house in the 1927 legislature he blocked legislative investigation into charges of corruption. He again expressed his confidence of election, saying it would be accomplished with the aid of conscientious Republicans “who were driven from their party by false leadership.”

IMPROVE SIX ROADS AT SIOO,OOO COST Plans Are Filed With Marion County Auditor. Plans for improving six county roads at an estimated cost of SIOO,000, were filed by County Surveyor Henry R. Campbell with Harry Dunn, county auditor, Tuesday afternoon. They are: Capitol avenue from Southern to Troy avenues, one-half mile, concrete, $16,287; Camden street, from Norwood road to Thompson road, one-half mile, gravel, $4,183; East Seventy-ninth street from Allisonville road to Keystone avenue, one and one-half miles, gravel, $16,980; resurfacing Hanna avenue between Shelbyville road and Sherman drive, one mile, $23,500; East Forty-second street from Shadeland avenue to Pendleton pike, three-fourths of a mile, gravel, $5,800, and Ninetieth street from Spring Mill road to Whitehead road, one mile gravel, including bridge over Williams Creek, $27,000. Get rid of hounding creditors. Deserving people can easily borrow necessary money to pay their bills. Repay in small monthly installments. See the money to loan ads for complete information.

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OF COURSE ‘THIRTEEN’ IS NO DICE NUMBER Shooters Yell for “9,” Cops Throw “13” In. “It’s ninety cents I shoot. Come on dice, come nine," was the plaintive cry which came from a house at 538 Agnes street Tuesday night But Sergt. Curtis Barge and squad heard the cry and made it thirteen. Thirteen came out, under arrest on gambling charges. Two of them were women. Mrs. Vivian Gamon, 23, Negro, who lives at the house, was charged with keeping the gambling house. LESLIE UNDER FLAG He’ll Speak* Under Auspices of G. 0. P. Chairman. Under auspices of George V. Coffin, Seventh district Republican chairman, and a codefendant in Governor Sw Jackson’s bribery trial last spring, Harry G. Leslie, Republican nominee for Governor, will make five speeches in Indianapolis Thursday night. At Coffin’s headquarters today it was announced Leslie will be escorted from one meeting to another by Alf O. Meioy, United States marshal, and Omer Hawkins, Marion county sheriff and Coffin’s successor to the Marion county Republican chairmanship. It was Hawkins, Democratic campaigners charged this week, who accompanied D. C. Stephenson, former klan dragon, to Dayton, O. in 1925 to implore the return of bolting Democratic state senators. The meetings to which Leslie will be whisked for brief talks are: Druid’s hall, 1315 South Meridian street; Eighth ward, 962 North Meridian street; First ward, 2001 Winter street; Twelfth street and Senate avenue; and P. H. C. hall, East and Michigan streets. Municipal Judge Paul C. Wetter will preside at the Druids’ hall meeting. Other speakers at the hall wil linclude Ralph E. Updike, seeking re-election to Congress, and Lloyd D. Claycombe, candidate for state senator. Frank J. Milholland, Eighth ‘ward chairman will preside at the North Meridian street meeting where other speakers will include Frederick E. Schortemeier, secretary of state; Harry E. Yockey and Updike.

PROSECUTOR NOMINEE TAKES RAP AT REMY Murray Promises Appointment of Able Deputies. Appointment of deputy prosecutors able “to cope with the best criminal lawyers,” was the promise Raymond F. Murray, Democratic nominee for prosecuting attorney, gave voters Tuesday night at a meeting at 1666 South Delaware street. The quotation was from Prosecutor William H. Remy’s speech of Monday night when Remy indorsed Judson L. Stark, Republican nominee for prosecutor. “This causes me to wonder,” Murray said, “why the prosecuting attorney did not use his chief deputy in the corruption probe cases, instead of spending thousands of dollars of tax money for special counsel. Hoosier Dies in New York HUNTINGTON, Ind., Oct. 24. Williamson Barnhart, vice-president of the National Surety Company, is dead in New York, according to a message received here by his parent, Mr. and Mrs. W. S. Barnhart. He was formerly a newspaper man here.

‘COPS'LL GET YE EF YE DON’T WATCH OUT’ Police Chief Warns Halloween Pranksters Against Property Damage. “Have all the Halloween fun you want but don’t damage property or molest citizens or you’ll be arrested.” Police Chief Claude M. Worley today issued this warning to pranksters, young and old. The chief posted an order to the entire police department to be on the lookout for Halloween depredations and to make arrests in all cases where there is property damage. “I don’t want to do a thing that will spoil the fun of the younger generation, but we can not permit vandalism. There are plenty of ways to observe Halloween without being unlawful. “In fact, we are going to help all the folk have a good time. We will be glad to furnish a police detail to handle traffic or act as guards at large neighborhood or civic gatherings. We will have the downtown district amply protected Halloween. The men will work on twelve-hour shifts that day, to provide extra men to handle traffic and watch for pickpockets during the evening.” The chief’s order to his men: "With the approach of Halloween my attention has been called to several depredations on the part of boys and gangs of young persons. I have no desire to detract from the pleasure of the younger generation, but it is very necessary that you use stringent methods to prevent destruction of property or the molesting of our citizens. “Break up the comer gangs. Stop the soaping of tracks, windows and automobile windshields. "Request citizens to call headquarters when gangs of boys bent upon youthful pranks are observed in the neighborhood. “Make arrests in all cases where there is property damage.” The state law against malicious destruction of property provides a penalty of a fine of twice the property damage to which may be added as much as a year in Jail. UTILITY MERGER TOPIC Indianapolis Federation of Civic Clubs will meet Friday night at the Chamber of Commerce to hear a report of the utilities committee on the proposed merger of the T. H. I. & E. Traction Company and the Northern Indiana Power Company. A. L. Portteus, chairman, said several members of the utilities committee had been out of the city and had little opportunity to study the question.

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MODEL TRAFFIC PLAN STUDIED DY COUNCILMEN Confer With Safety Leaders and Motor Club on New Ordinance. Adoption of the Hoover model traffic ordinance with modifications to suit local needs was contemplated today by city councilmen. Headed by Chairman Robert E. Springsteen, the council safety committee discussed the growing traffic problem with street car, Hoosier Motor Club and Indianapolis Safety Council representatives Tuesday afternoon. The model code was drafted by a national committee under direction of Herbert Hoover, when he was secretary of commerce. There is a national movement to adopt the city traffic regulations all over the country, to provide uniform rules. Todd Stoops, Hoosier Motor Club manager, expressed some dissatisfaction with the pedestrian regulation on Washington street. “Elimination of right turns on downtown Washington street would tend to congest north and south traffic,” Stoops said. “Lack of police to enforce our present regulations is one of our biggest problems.. Too many folks have the idea they don’t have to obey the rules and scores use the streets for garages all night,” Stoops declared. Secretary of State Frederick Schortemeier, representing the safety council, urged adoption of the Hoover code. “We should have uniform regulations. I’d like tc see elimination of left turns and no parking on Washington between Delaware and Senate avenue, but that is a personal idea,” Schortemeier said. Want Turns Abolished Springsteen said he had received numerous letters favoring abolishment of the right and left turns of street cars and automobiles in downtown Washington street, so the pedestrian regulations can be lifted. Pedestrians then would be permitted to move with motor traffic. This plan would enlarge the street car loop, gradually expanding the business district, in the opinion of councilmen. Springsteen suggested extending the loop south to Maryland and Georgia streets or > building of a track on New York street, with north side cars looping on Ohio. “That wouldn’t permit people who ride the street cars to come down I to Washington street. That’s where they want to go,” interrupted I Councilman Herman P. Lieber, himself a Washington street merchant. . “I knew I’d get a rise out of Lieber,” said Springsteen, smiling. Provincial, Says-Nicholson James P. Tretton, Indianapolis Street Railway Company general superintendent,pointed out that the convenience of the 275,000 hauled daily by the railway was a matter to be considered. “Yes, you and the Merchants Association would object,” suggested Meredith Nicholson. “It is a provincial idea that all street cars have to go to Washington street. This has a tendency to throttle the town,” Nicholson declared. Lieber and Fi*ed W. Connell, safety board president, then engaged in a tilt over downtown parking regulations. Springsteen announced the committee w'ill continue deliberation at another session.