Indianapolis Times, Volume 40, Number 48, Indianapolis, Marion County, 17 July 1928 — Page 4
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Shooting to Kill Banditry having reached the stage of boldness where life and property are unsafe upon the public highways, the necessary and inevitable response of organized society is shooting to kill. It is not a pleasant situation —nor a pleasant task. It is a reflection upon the good sense and the two thousands of years of civilized life that such a course is ever necessary. But banditry could have been expected and prophesied. No one should be surprised that errant and bold youths take their guns in hand to violate laws and resort to the very primitive methods against which organized society itself is a protest and an answer. We have been breeding bandits these last few years by some new and strange developments in our governmental life and the things which have happened in this State and in this city could be expected to bring forth nothing else. We have, to begin with, picked the laws we ourselves choose to regard and follow. The big majority of citizens have taken to themselves the l'iglit to select for themselves the written statutes they choose to follow. That was because we have believed that law meant order and character. That was because we have followed the belief that by passing a law we could change the ; entire outlook of society and make>pen good through fear. We have laws which the majority, or at least a very large portion of society does not regard as morally binding. We have made crimes out of acts that are perhaps sinful. And the answer was that those in very high places disregard these laws openly and flagrantly. That has produced a disregard for all law. If the banker or the judge or the merchant picks his law, what shall be expected of the ignorant, perhaps degraded, type of human being, who also sees nothing particularly wrong in using a gun and a mask to get what he wants? An~even greater factor has been steadily increasing disrespect for courts and the machinery for the enforcement of law. Crime has become a comparatively safe business, with fewer hazards for failure than the starting of a corner grocery. Even the criminals who are caught still many chances to escape punishment. Lawyers have introduced technicalities that bewilder the officials who represent the State. Delays in trials and in decisions on appeals delay the hour of penalty, if it is ever paid. More than that, the government has been built by throwing the votes of a very small group of the undesirables into the conflict between elements who want the decent things, but who are divided by slogans and party labels and appeals to prejudices. We have a government, in many instances, founded upon the trickeries and the skill and the zeal of the underwold at elections. There is a very definite connection between the bark of the bandit’s gun and the vote of a repeater, the vote of dead men, the vote of the eal of the underworld at elections. We are now shooting to kill. That seems to be the only way out. But after we have shot and killed and temporarily frightened off the pack of wolves who prey, we might take time this fall to spend an hour cm election day in an attempt to see that we have a government that is not built on the votes of those who produce bandits. We plight even forget prejudices and hates and party names and decide that we will have a government that produces justice, not guns. We may even return to a government by ballots instead of bullets. A Warning to Young Fliers The rapidly increasing popularity of the airplane has caused the Guggenheim Fund for the Promotion of Aeronautics to issue a word of warning to young men who want to learn how to fly. It quotes Colonel Lindbergh on the subject, as follows: “There are many schools that advertise that they ■will teach a novice how to fly an airplane. Some of them give the course for SIOO, usually turning out the student as a finished pilot after about ten hours In the air. “ r ~’en hours of flying will not make anyone a pilot, and SIOO will not buy a good course in training. The man or woman who wishes to become a pilot should be prepared to spend at least SSOO for training, and some agreement should be reached whereby the use of a plane for practice may be obtained after the course has been completed. "A great many serious, aviation accidents occur because of pilots who are turned out of cheap schools without sufficient experience to meet emergencies.' If the aviation bug has bitten you and you are thinking of learning to fly, you had better think over this advice from America’s greatest flier. A promoter has bought John D. Rockefeller’s birthplace and will move it to Coney Island for exhibition as an object lesson. Folk seeking object lessons probably can find a healthy one whenever they pass a gasoline station, too. The champion female rolling pin thrower is reported as one of the many curiosities Washington, D. C., possesses. NO’W can some city please produce the champion husband? .
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Failure’s Rough Hands
“Although I have perhaps achieved more than the average person at my age, still what I have achieved is so very far from what I wanted to achieve that life is'not worth living.” After writing a note containing these words, Henry Druckliev, middle-aged New York real estate broker, killed himself by sending a revolver bullet into his head. . It is tragic to reach middle age and find that one’s dearest ambitions can never be realized; tragic enough to make many people besides this real estate broker think of suicide. Yet it is the inevitable lot of all of us. Our reach, invariably, exceeds our grasp. We can never quite do the things we want to do. This inevitable disparity between the desires of the spirit and the capabilities of the flesh is at once a curse and a blessing; a curse because it brings suffering and tragedy, and a blessing because it is the mainspring of all human progress. Never a young man began life without high hopesA boy in his ’teens looks ahead to certain triumphs. He will be a better man than his father; the stumbling blocks that trip others will not trip him. He feels his own expanding powers and is sure that they will carry him through to any goal he seeks. In the fullness of time the boy becomes a man and finds it isn’t so easy as he imagined. Life is more complicated than he thought. One by one he sees his towering air castle dissolve in the hard light of every day experience, and at last, no matter how successful he has become, he has to admit that he has not gone as far as he once expected to. This is always a painful awakening, made endurable only by the fact that it comes very gradually. Yet most of us survive it. The men who commit suicide are the exception. We learh to discount the notes drawn by our high expectations. But always, fortunately, we remember what we dreamed. Always we have in the back of our minds a picture of what life might be like if he had not failed. We are persuaded, thereby, that the world is potentially a better place than we have made it, and that we ourselves are, at bottom, better men than we seem. We must be; cannot we dream gorgeous dreams? So, in the midst of our disillusion, there remains a spark of deathless optimism that persists quite irrationally. H makes us receptive; and now and then, when some man greater than the rest of us comes along, shows us a great deal and demands that we follow It and stop worshipping Baal, we obey. And when It is over, although we have not followed as far as we intended, we find that we have, after all, made progress. Fuhiy the “Flopper” There are many strange jobs in this modem world, but few are any stranger' than the one by which Irving Fuhr of New York made his living. • Fuhr was a “flopper.” He explained to New York authorities, who are conducting an investigation into the tactics of ambulance-chasing lawyers, that he specialized in falling over obstacles on sidewalks, stairways and hallways. He could fake a very bad fall and pretend to be seriously hurt; a lawyer who hired him would sue, or threaten to sue, the firm responsible for the obstruction, and tidy damages would be collected. Part of the time Fuhr worked for a straight salary of $775 a week. Part of the time he free-lanced. It was a fine graft while it lasted, he told the investigators. The lawyer who gave Fuhr a salary Is in prison now, however, and Fuhr may find himself going there to join him. For the heartless officials have decided that “flopping” is not quite an honest way of making a living. A man fined $1 in a New York court for traffic violation had only a $5,000-bill and a SI,OOO-bill on his person. Probably he was just on his way to buy a couple of sandwiches and a glass of ginger ale at a night club.
David Dietz on Science Star’s Brilliance Varies
IF you will observe the star Delta in the constellation Cepheus every night for four or five nights in succession you will discover for yourself one of the most interesting facts of astronomy. We must assume that by now you know how to find Cepheus and the stars composing it. Delta lies just above the five-sided figure formed by the principal stars of the constellation. Delta, you will discover if you follow the suggestion made, does not shine with a constant light. Its bril-
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that it has a period of five days eight hours and forty-seven minutes and thirty-nine seconds. It is a remarkable and amazing fact that this star is so accurate in its changes that it could be used as a clock. At its minimum, it has a magnitude of 4.9. At its maximum, it is three times as bright, having a magnitude of 3.7. * The study of variable stars was begun by David Fabricius, a Dutch astronomer, in 1596. Undoubtedly the ancients had noticed the existence of variable stars. But apparently they received no serious study until the time of Fabricius. At the beginning of the nineteenth century, three of the most famous astronomers devoted much of their time to the study of both double and variable stars. They were Frederick Wilhelm Bessel, F. G. W Struve and Sir William Herschel. All three were born in Germany, but Herschel lived most of his life in England and so is known as a British astronomer. Struve did most of his work at Pulkova Observatory in Russia and so frequently is classed as a Russian astronomer. These three men, as much as any others, laid the foundations for present-day astronomy. Herschel was the discoverer of the planet Uranus. Bessel was the first to succeed in measuring the distance from the earth to a star, although the problem was solved at about the same time by the Scotchman, Henderson,. > .
M. E. TRACY SAYS: “Savage as the Russians May Be in the Criticism of General Nobile’s Conduct and of the Still Unproved Desertion of Malmgren, They Have Earned the Right to Make It.”
CIVILIZATION is separated from the jungle by only two or three weeks. If you doubt it, read the record of the Donner party or of a dozen shipwrecks. Hunger can do a quick job at repealing our law and religion. It is easy enough to play the hero in a swivel chair. Most men can be brave and self-sacrificing when there is no need. All of us preach that the captain should be last to leave his ship, but it takes the captain to prove it. That is were Gen. Umberto Nobile falls short. It is inconsequential to argue that most of us might have done as he did under the circumstances. The chances are that we would have, but leadership calls for something different. General Nobile will not go down in history among the great pioneers. n m Criticism of Nobile Savage as the Russians may be in the criticism of General Nobile's conduct and of the still unproved desertion of Malmgren, they have earned the right to make it. Men who have risked their lives to save others for no reason in the world except love of humanity, can afford to talk. When the Russians declare that the time has come for Nobile to speak they are within the bounds of propriety. The Russians have gambled with death to rescue men whom they owed nothing except v/hat the laws of common decency demand. Those same laws apply to General Nobile. If he had a right to leave before the last man was saved the Russians had a right to remain at home, and so, too, did Roald Amundsen. We are not dealing with silly sentiment here, but with a conception of conduct which forms the bedrock of civilized life, which spells the difference not only between man and other animals, but between man and his primitive ancestors. All that we are, all that we have and all that we hope for rests on the idea that strength must bear the heaviest burden, wealth pay the highest tax, and leadership assume the greatest risk. Scrap that idea and there is nothing left but the caveman’s code. an tt Defy Fatal Maladies The census bureau reports that the rate of infant mortality for 1927 was the lowest ever recorded in this country. Such condition was not brought about by strong men playing safe, by doctors using their knowledge to avoid danger or by healthy people running away from epidemics. We have reduced the ravages of disease, not only among infants but among adults, because men and women dared to expose themselves to fatal maladies not alone to aid and comfort their fellow beings, but to discover preventives and remedies. If the baby born today has a better chance It is because unlold numbers of people work to make it better at the risk of their own lives. a u o Population Is Older The reduction of infant mortality means more than a better chance for babies. It means that we can keep up our population without imposing such burdens of motherhood on women as were once necessary. Two hundred years ago, or even 100, a family of six was necessary to 'meet the death rate. Today we are meeting it with families of four. Not only that, but we are developing a saner social, political and economic structure, no matter what some folks say. The average age of people living in this country is much higher than it used to be, which means that the average intelligence is better, the average judgment more mature and the average experienc greater. Those who call this a day of "flaming youth” have failed to consult the record. Asa matter of cold figures, young people represent a smallelr percentage of the total population than they ever did. Dr. Ira S. Wile, noted psychiatrist, who has just completed a study of the subject, says that there are proportionately half again as many persons over the age of 50 as there were in 1870. In 1870 persons under 30 years of age represented more than 67 per cent of the? total population. Now they represent only 5a per cent. In 1870 persons over 40 represented less than 20 per cent of the total population. Now they represent almost 27 per cent. Those who think youth is running things to a greater extent than ever before are fooled. We may average younger in spirit, but we are older in years. a a St Crime Wave Unchecked Considering the sucess we have enjoyed in the battle against disease, our failure to reduce crime is rather appalling. One finds it hard to reconcile our wealth, energy and ability with ihe fact that we have more murder, theft and crimes of violence than any other civilized nation. The Baumes commission finds comfort in the fact that New York City had only 278 homicides 'ast year, while it had 289 the year before and 308 the year before that. The figures look good, until one temembers that London had only about one-tenth as many homicides during the same period, and that while every case was solved in London hundreds went unsolved in New York. We fight disease with science, but we continue to fight crime with talk and politics. The result 3peaks for Itself. .
liance changes from night to night. A star of this sort is known as a variable star and the time it takes to go from its minimum brilliance to its maximum and back again to minimum is known as its period. Astronomers have made a careful study of Delta and find
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BY DR. MORRIS FISHBEIN Editor Journal of the American Medical Association and of Hygeia. the Health Magaiine. r T'HE most sensitive of all the vitamines to heat is vitamin C. This is the vitamin that prevents scurvy. As pointed out by Dr. Walter H. Eddy in a recent discussion of nutrition, whereas one gram of raw cabbage daily will prevent scurvy in a guinea-pig, twenty times that amount of cabbage, if the food is boiled for an nour in an open kettle, is required for scurvy prevention. Four grams of canned cabbage daily is protective, although the canned cabbage also has been boiled. The fact Is that the canned cabbage is heated in air-tight cans.
(Abbreviations: A—ace; K—kin*; Q—queen; J—jack: X—anv card lower than 10.) THE only occasions in which the partner of the doubler may remain adamant and refuse to bid is when holding a hand that is so strong that the doubler may be set, as when holding over a suit bid of diamonds the following hand: Spades X Hearts X X Diamonds K J 10 X X X X Clubs XXX. Or over a no trump bid when holding a strong hand as: Spades Q J 10 Hearts A J X Diamonds K J 10 Clubs K 10 X X. A business double is made for the purpose of setting opponents. Its object is to collect penalties. It is generally inadvisable to make a business double unless you are reasonably certain of setting by two tricks. In determining the possible number of tricks you can make take the following facts into consideration: 1. If you hold a freak hand your opponent may hold a freak distribution. 2. If you are blank in a suit opponents may be blank. 3. If partner has made a preemptive bid you may nol? possibly make a defensive trick out of partner’s hand|. 4. If partner has made a Jump assist, count the hand for little defensive value. 5. A two-suited hand is a danger signal for a double. 6. If partner has made a secondary bid do not expect to find any defensive values in partner’s hand. 8. If opponents have a frame and your score is clear, it is more advisable to set by 200 points than to make the frame. If the score is frame-frame, bid for rubber unless you can set by 400 points. Redoubles may be either business or informatory. A business redouble should seldom be made and then only if you are absolutely certain of your ground—certain you are in the position t) safely double any rescue bid that may be made by opponents. Re-doubling is to be discoifraged as a rule. The informatory re-double is made on two occasions, illustrations thereof being as follows: 1. First hand bids no trump, second hand doubles. You as third hand, if holding a no-trumper, may re-double to inform partner of your strength. 2. First hand bids no trump, second and third hands pass. Fourth hand doubles. First hand re-doubles. This is an SOS to declarer’s partner of the great necessity of making a declaration. (Copyright, 1928. by the Ready Reference Publishing Company)
Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be sued.— Gen. 9:6. „ nun BLOOD, though it sleep a tune, yet never dies.—Chapman.
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Evidently the factor that is involved in the destruction of the vitamin is exidation. Heat sufficiently high will destroy vitamin C, and heat for long periods of time will destroy the vitamin. Access to air or oxidation during the heating process is the most serious of all the factors in its destruction. If minute amounts of copper are present in the vessels used in heating food substances, the vitamin destruction will take place much more rapidly. This is due to the fact that the presence of copper will speed up all oxidative reactions. The use of copper kettles in the preparation of tomato pulp produces more dstruction of vitamin C than if heated in tin-lined kettles. Furthermore, the tomato pulp, after heating, will be found to contain small particles of cupper. The vitamin A content of butter can be reduced markedly by heating
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Ft. Wayne Journal-Gazette Some inquiry into the business affairs of Alfred Lowenstein, Belgian magnate who disappeared from his airplane over the English Channel, casts grave doubt upon the magnitude of his fortune. That is not surprising. Nor will it be surprising it more minute investigation should reduce the value of his holdings below the $25,000,000 now stated as the worth of his estate. The Belgian banker and exemplar of big business was popularly rated among the three or four wealthiest men in the world. His fortune was said to be the “third iargest.” Rockefeller and Ford were set ahead of him and Andrew W. Mellon, American Secretary of the Treasury, was put next below him. Lowenstein evidently enjoyed his repute as a man of prodigious wealth. He did most things with immense flare of circumstance. When he recently visited the United States he had a retinae of secretaries, servants and flunkeys and a baggage train that gave him all the appearance of royalty upon a visit of state. The fortunes of most wealtny men are overrated. It is almost
Mr. Fixit Attention Called to Children Who Play in Streets.
Let Mr. Fixit, The Times’ representatlire at city hall, present your troubles to city officials. Write Mr. Fixit at The Times. Names and addresses which must be Riven will not be published Attention of Frank Owen, accident prevention lieutenant, was called to two'groups of youngsters who make the street a playground today by Mr. Fixit. Dear Mr. Fixit—There is a group of small boys who play ball every evening about 5 or 6 on the sidewalk at Maple Rr. and Kenwood Ave. I have seen many narrow escapes when the boys chase the ball into the street. Frequently autos have to apply the brakes quickly to prevent striking the boys. I love to see the boys play ball, but it is nerve wracking to watch it at a dangerous place. There should be a law against playing ball on sidewalks or streets. R. D. C. Lieutenant Frank Owen said he would attempt to locate the leader of the gang which plays ball on the sidewalk and try to persuade them to use a city playground in the neighborhood. Owen said he Would point out the danger of the pastime in the thickly traveled district. 1 Dear Mr. Fixit—We have some boys in the neighborhood of 1300 Roach St. who play ball in the street. They bat the ball up on our porches and it is necessary to stay in the house to avoid being struck. J. X. Owen said he wruid ask the group to find a convenient piayground, whore the.r lives vill be safer and the neighbors will not be
at higher temperatures if a current of air bubbles through. Vitmin A, hov/ever, is more stable than vitamin C, and it seems doubtful that ordinary cooking sources, although oxygen, if present, will destroy vitamin A from animal sources. Vitamin B is slowly destroyed by the application of heat, but the presence of alkalis destroys it much more rapidly than does the presence of acids. Therefore, the use of water in cooking green vegetables may be injurious to the vitamin B content. Evidence is as yet not available regarding the manner in which vitamins D and E may be destroyed. Apparently these vitamins are much more stable and difficult to ruin. Unfortunately, we do not yet know about most of the vitamins the minimum necessary to preserve and advance human life, nor how much the average human being gets in his usual diet.
solely in America that exception to this is found. It is the popular thing to speak of John D. Rockefeller and Henry Ford as billionaires. That quite probably is not an exaggerated view to take of their holdings. Some multimillionaires who were associated with the elder Rockefeller in his great oil enterprises had estates quite beyond the popular estimates. But some of the supposed great fortunes of continental Europeans are measured by the face value of their paper currency and that is a good deal like counting stage money. South Bend Tribune Elimination of the Federal excise tax on automobiles is seeminly not to be the last development in the campaign to equalize the tax burden on the automobile owners. Thomas P. Henry, president of the American Automobile Association, announces that his organization will seek a fair basis of motor taxation and the “uses to which such taxes shall be applied." In addition, he urges members of the association to work for abolition of toll charges on roads and bridges because those charges bar Americans from the heritage of free highway communication and transportation. Another problem which is receiving attention of the association lies in automobile insurance. A committee has been appointed to investigate and make a fair appraisal of arguments for and against compulsory automobile insurance. The report of this committee will be awaited with interest by those who realize that an aiinsured automobile owned by a citizen whose other property holdings are negligible puts an unfair burden on other automobile owners who rely on insurance to protect their own interests ancN those of their neighbors. Toll highways and toll bridges are subjects worthy of consideration by the American Automobile association. They .run counter to the trend of 'the times, but it has not been established that they can be dispensed with without working hardship on investors who must be given fair treatment. That they must go eventually is a foregone conclusion because they are archaic institutions, out their elimination is not going to be accomplished without travail. The American Automobile Association , with approximately 760,000 members is equipped to render valuable service in the solution of this and other problems affecting America in this automobile age. Why is Ohio called the "Buckeye” State? Or; account of the large number of horse chestnuts, popularly called buckeyes, found there Has Gene Tunney any sisters and brothers? He has three sisters and one: brothef. His father is dead but his mother is still living.
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BY LUDWELL DENNY. WASHINGTON, July 17.—Administration critics interpret demands of Governor General Stimson for revision of the Philippine land and corporation laws as additional proof that the Republican party has no intention of acting on the independence pledge given the islands by the Jones law. Stimson’s appeal was made at the opening of. the island legislature and published by the War Department here today. This appeal is used by Democrats in connection with the failure ol the Republican platform of last month to commit the party on the future of the islands, as evidence that American capital is planning large scale exploitation of the Philippines under indefinitely prolonged American rule. The Democratic platform declared for immediate independence. The present limit on the size ot land holding is objevtionable to American corporations, which claim that larger land units are required for profitable development. This applies especially to rubber and sugar. Stimson was formerly secretary of war and latterly President Coolidge’s special representative to Nicaragua to arrange for peaceful elections under American Marines. He was appointed successor to the late General Leonard Wood last winter. His present demands are in line with the Wood policy, to which the native leaders objected. tt st tt IN opening the native Legislature, Stimson directly attacked charges of critics that his program would enable American capital “to institute economic serfdom” of the Filipino people. “It would be hard to conceive a more serious error,” he said. “By exciting an unfounded fear, these critics would block the only avenue toward economic, and therefore, political independence of these islands. “The Philippine Islands today stand in much the same economic situation as the United States stood 140 years ago. We in America were then possessors of the boundless resources of a great continent, but we were poor and lacked means to develop those resources. “We borrowed freely from Europe, including many countries with whose political institutions we had no sympathy and even held in profound distrust, ts America in economic serfdom today? “At the present rate with which the agricultural lands of these islands is being distributed among their people. It will be 400 years before that great asset, that great guardian of the people’s stability, is fully put to use. This is not conservation; this is waste.” tt a u THERE are two other major planks in the Stimson platform which are objectionable to the Filipinos. One is a proposal to deduct $125,000 annually from the money which for years the United States Government has been turning over to the Philippine government for it to apportion. This action, according to the natives, implies a lack of confidence in the insular government, ar) d is an additional step toward bringing the islands more completely under American rule. The other proposal is for the appointment of Governors of the Moro Mohammedan provinces by the American Governor-General without the consent of the Philippine Senate. This also is opposed on the ground that it decreases Filipino home rule. At the request of Stimson, both of these proposals were introduced as bills in the United States Congress. They failed to pass in the last session because of Democratic and Progressive opposition. Pedro Guevara. Philippine resident commissioner here, then issued a statement that: “Congress once more has shown in an unequivocal way its devotion to the people’s will and this friendly attitude will undoubtedly strengthen the faith of the Filipinos in America.” o a ts IN the native legislature which has just opened, the NationalistaConsolidato bloc retains control. Manuel Quezon Monday was reelected president of the Senate. Sergio Osmena was re-elected majority floor leader, and Manuel Roxas was re-elected speaker of the lower house. In a Scripps-Howard interview in San Francisco on the eve of his departure for Manila after a long illness, Quezon said: “Asa result of this uncertainty as to their present and future status the Filipinos are discontented, and the economic development of the islands is being retarded to that extent. If we are to have independence let us have it now; If we are to remain under the American flag let us know under what terms, whether as a protectorate, a dominion, or some other form of home rule.”
This Date in U. S. History
July 17 1777—Vermont constitutional convention met. 1354—First party of emigrants sent by the Massachusetts Emigrant Society reached Kansas, i 1862—Postage and other stamp: made legal tender in amount; less than a dollar. 1898—United States Flag hoisted at Santiago. Are Bacteria animal or vegetable? The true character of bacteria was long in doubt but now they are generally regarded as the lowest forms of vegetable life. Their nature is still controversal to a certain degree. Does our alphabet have the same number of letters as the Latin alphabet? The Latin alphabet is Identical with the present English alphabet with the omission of u and w (for which v is used), and J, y and z.
