Indianapolis Times, Volume 39, Number 168, Indianapolis, Marion County, 22 November 1927 — Page 12

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PLAYING AFIELD

-With Billy Evans

MANY an all-American football candidate is often overlooked simply because the college he attends lacks national prestige. Recently in discussing this phase of football, I stressed the fact geographical location had much to do with putting a star over in a big "/ay.

Athletes attending a college located close to the bigger cities of the United States unquestionably have a much better chance to become famous. I offered Spears of Vanderbilt as an example of a truly great player

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who was being lost in the shuffle, simply because he was playing in a southern city, far removed from the big news centers. u tt tt No football writer can see over ten games during the season, therefore in passing judgment on all sections of the country, he must be guided by expert advice. tt tt tt RECENTLY I received a mighty interesting letter from one of the leading football authorities of Texas, giving me some mighty interesting and valuable data on the grid game in that section. My Texas operative for whom I have the greatest respect relative to the ability of players and teams, writes me thusly: “If there was ever an All-Amer-ican football player, Joel Hunt of the Texas Aggies is that person. He is the greatest player the Lone Star State has ever turned out.” tt tt tt If Joel Hunt is a better player than Bo McMillan, I am willing to go on record as saying that no All-American would be complete Without him. tt 44TF you would like some proof A other than mine as to Hunt’s remarkable ability,” says my informant on the Texas situation, “I offer the names of Bennie Boynton, who was all-American star while at Williams, and Derrill Pratt, famous big league ball player of other days, who starred at Alabama and helped coach while at Michigan. “In talking with Pratt, he said he thought Friedman was the greatest passer the game had ever produced until he saw Hunt in action. Pratt, who now winters in Texas, has been watching Hunt all season. “Bennie Boynton, who now officiates in'the important Texas games, recently sized up Hunt as follows in a conversation I had with him: ‘He’s the greatest football player I have ever seen.’ Don’t forget Boynton starred in the East.”

Local Team in Net Conference The newly organized Indianapolis Flashes have entered the Indiana Junior Basketball Association it was announced today. Other cities represented in the league are Shelbyville, Muncie, Newcastle, Kokomo, Huntington, Ft. Wayne, Anderson. Two teams will represent each of the cities in the conference, one in the 125-pound class and the other in the 110-pound class. Local quintets will be coached by J. S. Johnson, formerly of Shortridge and Butler. The Indianapblis fives will open the season against the Shelbyville Ramblers ThursdV night at the Twenty-Second and Broadway St. gym. LOCALS - AT LAWRENCE Southpaws, Pro Grid Eleven, to Play Thanksgiving Day. Indianapolis Southpaws, local pro football club, will play the Lawrence Acorns at Lawrence Thanksgiving day. The 'game will start at 2p. m. Southpaw management has announced that two more games probably will be played this season, one with the College Cubs being tentative. All members of the Southpaws are requested to call the manager at Lincoln 8367 after 6 p. m. or address Eddie Dempsey, 404 Massachusetts Ave.

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The Century Billiards and OefterlngLitzelman team won three games from the McCaslin Bros, and Pritchett's Recreation as the Falls City Lager and Lucky Strikes copped the odd game from the Florsheim Shoes and Century Alley Five. Goodhue of the Lucky Strikes rolled tme consistent games ants led the field •with a total of 657 on counts of aiu, 224 and 223. Other boys to crack the 600 mark were: Haagsma, 622. Fultz, 607, And Harrigan, 614. * Bailey’s Realtors were the on 's’ cl 'i b win three in the Recreation league 40 ..tth, Gii>ware alleys, the Crystal the Try-Me. H. s J “}J 1 nnv a oo dwin stepped States Auditors. uonn y t w g tn out in front of the i ju fQr he Wiled JK; me Lovick 6 ’had 3 601; Nordholt, total of 670 zwelsler. 619: Holtz, 6191 C. HWhoU 616 Thirty-three games SVtter*than 200 were rolled, the #46 df Goodwin’s being high. . vnrkev team won three from the Murphy and Ochiltree teams in Jone*, Murp y . t the Indiana illey? Hie.lfinTed P, |/ this loop wlth gam's of 179, 201 and 163, a total of 666. *t the I A. C. aUeys the Service Club League games resulted In a three-time win fnrThe No 3 and No. I teams over the !?„ r a and No 4 boys. No. 2 took two of th°eir 8 three from the No. 5 outfit. Gavin turned in high game in this loop with 211. The Evangelical League games at the Illinois alleys showed tne Pirates, Giants and Reds turning in a three-time win over the White Sox, Browns and Indians, while the Cards, Senators. Yanks and Athletics cooped two from the Cubs, Mud Hens, Tleers and Dodgers. Meyer had games of 236 148 and 235. for a total of 6ft, which was high. Schneider had 616 and Ziegler an even 00*. High single game went to Schneider when he rolled a great 266 in his first try. The Jud's Mena Duds and G. C. Murphy won three from the Freeman Bros, and Quality the Johnson Paints and Maytag Wys won two-out-of-three irom the W. K. Stewart and Lyric Men’s Shop in the Retail Merchants League games at the Capitol alleys. Schell- led the hoys over the three-game route with oounts of 197, 191 and 215 for a total of 608. Webb turned in the best single game, a 243 hia second try. t.

Captain Drury and His Trojans Depart to Tackle Notre Dame

Wabash and De Pauw Split With Butler in Football Over Scene of 1928 Games Three Athletic Directors Fail to Agree on Future Grid Arrangements and Annual Rivalry Battles Appear to Be Off.

By DICK MILLER Wabash College and De Pauw University football teams, ancient rivals of Butler University, will not appear on the Butler football card in 1928, according to an announcement made by George “Potsy” Clark, athletic director at the Irvington school, today. Clark made the startling revelation after returning from Crawfordsville, where he met with W. L. Hughes, athletic director at De Pauw, and Harry Scholler, director of athletics of Wabash, Monday night, Clark, in commenting on the differences, stated that Scholler demanded that Butler play in Crawfordsville next year or there would be no game, and also play home and home games thereafter. Hughes offered to come to Butler next year, but said Butler would have to play at Greencastle in 1929, thereby effecting what is called a round robin arrangement among the three schools. On this arrangement Clark said he offered to play home-and-home for a guarantee of $3,000 with privilege of 50 per cent of the gate. This proposition was refused by both Hughes and Scholler, Clark said. Another proposal that Butler play at Wabash for SSOO next year and Wabash play here in 1929 for the same amount also was refused by Scholler, Clark said, the Wabash director stating the financial end did not enter into the affair. “We take the stand that collegiate athletics are not to be played on the commercial basis and our student body and townspeople foel that they have made just as many trips to Indianapolis as they should to see the Wabash-Butler teams in action. “Crawfordsville merchants are demanding that we play one big game here each year, preferably Butler and De Pauw alternately. The way we have been playing, with practically all our games away, is not doing justice to anybody, team, students and others.

“From the financial standpoint, Wabash has played in Indianapolis on a guarantee of SSOO and a privilege of f>o per cent and we have offered the same terms to Butler. Athletic Director Clark mentioned the $3,000 arrangement, but did not state it definitely. We would not accept it anyway. “Insofar as we are concerned, the annual Butler-Wabash game is off, and we have not a thing more to say.” Athletic Director Hughes of De Pauw was to discuss the question this morning, but Greencastle officials let it be known there would be a statement later in the day. Clark said he always has felt that the location of a football game had little to do with the outcome. He pointed out the times Illinois has defeated Ohio at Columbus, Ohio,

—Looking ’Em Over —

Illinois finished the Big Ten standing with a percentage of 1.000 . . . Minnesota closed with the same percentage. . . But the title goes to Illinois . . .You couldn’t get away with that in baseb&ll. it tt tt The Gophers lost out by a “mar” which is football’s term for “tie.” tt tt n KNEW WHEN TO TIE Coach Zuppke of the Illinl outgeneraled the Northern Giants . . . His “mar,” inflicted by lowa State, does not show in the conference standing. n tt '• CRACKERS ABOVE PAR And still Georgia remains undefeated and untied . . . And, let us hope, also undeflled.

The Whiskers and Models won three from the Tails and Bky Pilots in the Lions’ League games. Templeton of the Whiskers copped high score with a count of 202 in his middle game. The Optimist League games at the Central alleys Monday night, found the Gian f s In good form, and as a result the Pirates were forced to take a three-time drubbing. The Cards, Braves and Cubs took the odd one from the Reds, Yanks and Indians In the other contests of this loop. Mundt led the field when after a start of 196 and 137 he came back with the high single game of 255 to total 588. The Lutheran League games at the Uptown alleys resulted in a two-time win for the Browns and Greens over the Grays and Beds. Brlnkmeyer rolled best In this set, having games of 168, 170 and 198 for a total or 536. At Pritchett’s alleys the Reformed Church League held, their weekly session. The Eighth, Bears, Baracas and First Tigers won three from the Trinity, Second Reformed, Carrollton Cubs and Klets as the first Owls and Carrolton Indians copped two from the Immanual and St. Paul's Reformed. The Eighth team rolled some fine ten pins, having games of 947. 993 and 899, for a total of 2.839. Cray led the individuals with games of 214. 176 and 224. a total of 614. L. Holt had 61 on counts of 21, 166 and 234. NOWACK ILLINI CAPTAIN Tackle and Star Kicker of Urbana Eleven Chosen ’2B Pilot. Bu United Press ' i CHAMPAIGN, 111., Nov. 22.—Albert (Big Butcfi) Nowack, tackle and star kicker of the University of Illinois football team, 1927 Big Ten champion, has been named to captain the 1928 eleven. The varsity "I” was awarded twenty-eight players. TAKE FINAL DRILL STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Nov. 22. The Penn State squad completed its final workout Monday and was to entrain today for [Pittsburgh, where it will meet the Pittsburgh Panthers Thanksgiving day.

and also the year-in-and-year-out arrangement between Wisconsin and Chicago, who play at Chicago each year on a split basis. Clark said he regretted the two ancient State rivals of the Blue and White would not appear in the new Butler stadium next year, and pointed out that Butler officials had been planning on accepting Scholar's demand that Wabash play the dedicatory game there.

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Three Yale Men Awarded Places On Mythical All-Eastern Team Eastern Sports Writers Chose to Disregard Bruce Caldwell in Making Annual Football Selections.

BY FRANK GETTY United Press Sports Editor NEW YORK, Nov. 22.—Yale wins three places, Army two, and Penn, Holy Cross, Dartmouth, N. Y. U., W. and J. and Pitt, one each on an allEastem football eleven based upon a consensus of opinion of Eastern sports writers.

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Some teams remained hogtied right up until the finish. it tt it WHY BRING THAT UP? Texas Welch has two more playing years at Purdue . . . Voice from Bloomington: Sir! u It it All of Gene Tunney’s efforts to appear scholarly have been wasted Coolidge told him he looked like a movie actor. tt tt tt Even Presidents choose to wise crack occasionally . .~. There are countless varieties of actors. it it it NOT EASILY FOOLED Quiet Cal said the last prize fight he attended occurred fifteen years ago . . . The old boy is smart. nun \ In mentioning the movie resemblance Coolidge did not name the actor he had in mind Thus leaving the field open to press agents. f ' tt tt tt KEEN KUTTER KAL The heavyweight champ kept cool with Coolidge, however, and responded by saying the President had a keen mind . . . Three to one Gene votes for A1 Smith. tt tt tt TRUTH WILL OUT ’ Tunney hastened to reply that he made no claims of being an Actor . . . That reply was superfluous. tt tt tt Lady Godiva is going to ride again at the fine arts ball in Chicago .. . .. Dust off the cheaters, boys!

Manual Pictures on Circle Screen , tonight is “Manual night” at the Circle theater where the second annual scholastic week program is in progress. Special motion pictures of the Manual football team, the coaches and other features will be incorporated in the special grid movies made last week. Wednesday Technical photos will be showll and Thursday Cathedral, The high school pictures are shown as part of the program which includes the photoplay, “The Drop Kick” featuring Richard Barthelmess. Monday night the Shortridge pictures were shown and Saturday night the Boys’ Prep photos were run off.

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Pitt Is Chosen for Coast Came New Year's Day \ Bu United Press PALO ALTO, Cal., Nov. 22.—The University of Pittsburgh has been chosen as the football opponent* for the Stanford University team in the annual New Year’s game at Pasadena. / The announcement was made public today following a meeting of the Stanford faculty athletic committee and the athletic board of control. Offers had been tendered the Army and Navy before Pittsburgh accepted. The game will mark the secoijd time Stanford and Pittsburgh have met on the gridiron. In December, 1922, the Eastern team met and defeated Stanford in the Palo Alto stadium.

The seasonal sport of selecting these mythical teams has been complicated this fall by the fact excellent football me erial was scattered far and wide, nd a number of the smaller colleges had players entitled to recognition umong the best of the year. Nearly all of the Eastern sports writers who contributed their selections to the United Press consensus chose to leave off the name of Bruce Caldwell of Yale, who, until his ineligibility, was considered the outstanding hail back of the East. The following outstanding Eastern stars of 1927 received the most votes for their respective positions on first and second all-Eastem teams: siott E rKßfc Position. Second Eleven. Scott (Yale) E Lenzer (Penn.) 5?W e <**“> • T - Fitzgerald (Tulti Webster (Yale) ...G... Miller (Amherst! Cervlnl "(Holv Y ci*l r " Gr, **t y <Georretn) cervlni (Holy Cr.).G Burke (Navy) Hake (Penn.) T Quarrier (Yale) Born (Army) ;..,.E Fishwick (Y&let Connor (NYU) ...§.. McPhail (Dsrtm ) Marsterg (Dartm.) H Carle (Arms! Am„ C . h t H. Wittmer fprlnceton) Amos (W.&J.) F Briante (NYU) This is the first time in some years three Yale men have been accorded places on a mythical allEastem eleven. Nearly every man on “Tad” Jones’ Eastern championship eleven was mentioned by one writer or another as worthy of a place in the late November limelight. , Princeton, with one of the strongest teams in the East, had no outstanding stars. Harvard did not land a man on either the first or second team. CORNELL STUDENTS RALLY Bu United Press ITHACA, N. Y., Nov. 22.—Cornell students prepared for a rally tonight before the team entrains for Philadelphia where they will meet the Pennsylvanians on Franklin field, Thanksgiving day. The regulars were due for a short limbering-up exercise before leaving.

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Southern California’s Crack Eleven Has Impressive Scoring Record. LEADER IS PHENOM Morley Rated Coast’s Best; Williams Injured. Uu United Press . __ LOS ANGELES, Nov. 22.—The University of Southern California team, outstanding eleven on the Pacific Coast, departs tonight for Chicago to battle with the strong Irish eleven of Notre Dame at Soldiers’ Field next Saturday. Leading the Thunderinc Herd is Capt. Morley Drury, credited as the fastest and shiftiest player of the Far West. Best in History The Red and Gold team is the strongest in the history of the institution. For the 110,000 fans who jam Soldiers’ Stadium, Drury will center their interest in the western team. Southern California presents an essentially offensive team, and Coach Howard Jones, brother of Tad Jones of Yale, has built his power plays around the bulk of “The Drury.” Drury stands almost six feet. He scales 190 pounds. And he combines this height and weight with speed and a peculiar hip motion. The combination permitted him to gain 203 yards from scrimmage in the California game and to total 165 yards against Stanford. All-American Type He is the sparkplug of an eleven which has scored two or more touchdowns in every contest during the past two seasons. He is the coast’s bid for all-American honors and the coast’s hope for a victory over Notre Dame. Trojans eyes will be facing east, flashing determination, but their thoughts are bound to travel back now and then to the hospital cot in Los Angeles where Don Williams, the never-failing back field star, lies with a back injury that may mean that his grid days are over. Williams was injured in. the .final quarter of the Washington State game Saturday after he contributed his usual sensations, including a run of seveflty-one yards for a touchdown. Williams is a junior and was rated as the probable 1928 captain. Full Back Records To overcome the Williams calamity came the announcement that Edelson, full back, probably would be back Saturday after three weeks absence with injuries. The Trojans are worrying about only two things—the condition of Williams and the weather. They expect to beat Notre Dame if the wintry blasts are not too strong in Chicago. The Californians are well posted on the Irish methods for they have had Notre Dame scouted since the Georgia Tech game. In other words the Trojans are posted on everything Coach Rockne used against Tech, Minnesota, Army and Drake. CUBS MAY TAKE ‘KIKI’ Chicago Nationals Believed Ready to Arrange Big Deal. Bu United /’rest CHICAGO, Nov. 22.—Possibility that Hazen “Kiki” Cuyler, star Pittsburgh outfielder, might be wearing a Chicago Cub uniform in 1928 was seen today. It was believed the Cubs would parr with a prize pitcher and another player or two dn exchange.

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Army, Navy Get Set for Service Tilt i Cadets 2-to-1 Favorite to Win Saturday Fray at Polo Grounds. 22.—The Army and Navy are putting on the finishing touches for their thirtieth annual football game at the Polo Grounds Saturday. There was no public sale of tickets and those few pasteboards which have drifted into the hands of speculators are quoted at SSO each. The Amy is a 2 to 1 favorite in the early betting, but these odds are' expected to shorten when the MidMidshipmen sail up Broadway Friday. The Navy hasn’t done so well this year, but there is no telling what the Navy may do in this battle for blood. There’s strength in the Navy eleven, but thus far this season the Midshipmen have wasted their opportunities right and left. On paper, Army with its victory over Notre Dame the ouststanding claim to fame, looks like the better team. The Cadets beat Notre EJame, 18 to 0, while the Irish sunk the Navy, 19 to 6. , The Army has won fourteen, the Navy twelve and three of the service tilts have ended in ties. Last year’s game at Chicago before 110,000 spectators resulted in a spectacular 21-21 deadlock. Douglas Boxing Bill Is Revised The withdrawal of Shifty Calloway from the Douglas A. C. boxing card, to be presented Wednesday night at the Douglas Park rink, has resulted in a revision of the program, and Johnny Milton of this city will meet Buddy Swanegan of Marion in the feature battle. These two originally were scheduled to tangle in the semi-windup. Anew bout added will show IC. O. Smith and Kid Taylor, a pair of welters, fighting a six-round number. . . All boxers on the card will weigh in at the Douglas rink Wednesday night at 6:45. Kid Edwards has been selected as referee for all bouts..

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Former Champ Buried; Tributes Ring Over Grave * Bu United Prcss ATLANTA, Ga., Nov. 22.—A former champion of the world was buried Monday with the tributes of white and colored ringing over his grave. Eight thousand persons had crowded into the city auditorium ito hear the funeral services for Theodore (Tiger) Flowers. Negro leaders lauded the former middleweight champion as a hero, as did white men of Atlanta who had known him. Bishop R. A. Carter of the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church officiated.

N. D. Hospital List Is Cleared

Bu United Press SOUTH BEND, Ind., Nov. 22. Johnny “Butch” .Niemiec, Notre Dame half back who was injured in the Drake game last Saturday, was to return to the Notre Dame line-up today, as the Irish prepared for Southern California. Voedisch, end, returned to the team Monday after a week’s rest. He suffered an injured knee in the Army game. Coach Rockne sent his eleven through its first Monday scrimmage of the season yesterday. Four teams practiced a defense built to stop the charges of Capt. Morley Drury and the Thomas Brothers. Spirit has risen to its greatest height! in years, and the slogan “Beat the Trojans” is printed on every corner of the campus and in South Bend. Few of the regulars saw much action against Drake and all were in finb condition today.

Irish Vs. Penn State

Bu United Press STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Nov. 22. Football relations between Penn State and Notre Dame University will be resumed next year when Knute Rockne brings his Irish east to battle the Nittany Lions. State will meet the Irish on Franklin Field, Philadelphia, Nov. 3, under the complete schedule for 1928 announced today. „ HAUSER NAMED PILOT Bu United Press • LAWRENCE, Kan., .sov. 22. Harold Hauser, end, has been named captain of the University of Kansas football team for next year.

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City League Contests at Hoosier Gym Big Four Vs. Polks; Chain "Vs. Fort in Wednesday Net Games. The majority of the teams in the City Basketball League are beginning to hit their strides and some close and hotly contested battles appear to be in the offing. A doubleheader is scheduled to be played at the H. A. C. gym Wednesday night when Big Four meets the Polks Milk quintet and Diamond Chain faces Ft. Harrison. By a strange coincidence both teams in the first tilt are tied for first place while both clubs in the wind-up are tied for the cellar berth. The individual scoring race is as exciting as ever and the players are putting up a real race for the honors. The first ten: Nelson (Bl|? Four) 32 gutchison (Polk's Milk) 29 oward (Big Four) 28 Smith (Diamond Chain) 25 Jessup (Pennsylvania) 24 H. Harmeson (Hoosier A. C.) 23 Erdman (Ft. Harrison) .. 21 E. Harmeson (Hoosier A. C.) 20 Hagen (Pennsylvania) 19 L. Kempler (Diamond Chain) 18 Kilgore (Pennsylvania) 18

Boxing Tonight in Armory Ring

AUSPICES AMERICAN LEGION Ten Rounds—Billy Peterson, Detroit, vs. Jimmie Klump, Newport, Ky.; 165 pounds Eiaht Rounds—Howard Mitchell, Cincinnati, vs. Danny Budd, Terre Haute; 133 pounds. Six Rounds—Casey Jones, Indianapolis, vs. Marty Lee. Indianapolis; 132 pounds. Six Rounds—Freddie Wallace. Indianapolis, vs. Kid Mitchell, Indianapolis; 116 pounds. . ... Four Rounds—Johnny Better. Louisville, vs. Eddie Schubert, Indianapolis; 145 pounds. First bout at 8:15. Relerees, Grammel and Webber. Timekeeper, F. Skinner. BASKET GUIDE ISSUED Annual Spalding Book on Sale; Rules in Detachable Form. The 1927-28 Spalding Basketball Guide is on sale at the local Spalding store, 136 N. Pennsylvania St. The book is a £42-page affair and contains the official basketball rules codified and adopted by the joint rules committee. Sections in the book are granted each State and conference. The rules are separately bound la detachable form.