Indianapolis Times, Volume 39, Number 148, Indianapolis, Marion County, 29 October 1927 — Page 6

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Speed the DayAlacrity and speed should characterize pending court action to determine who’s who in our present mayoralty tangle. And while today’s court proceedings before Superior Judge J. M. Mibier may termine the issue as between Mayor pro tern. Claude E. Negley and John L. Duvall’s choice, Ira L. Holmes, there yet remains the quo warranto proceeding brought by Joseph Hogue in which Walter Myers may join. This newspaper holds no brief for any of the four men who may or may not be entitled to succeed Duvall. It is interested, however, in seeing the passing and positive annihilation of Duvallism and all it stood for. This newspaper is vitally interested for the good of Indianapolis in having the various issues clarified and letting the municipal city function and function properly. The country today has its eyes upon Indianapolis and is waiting for the answer. In this connection it is not amiss to say that the citizens in general will watch with more than passing interest the refusal of men standing to serve the city by. not accepting places on the various official boards when tendered. If Indianapolis is to take its proper place among the real ctiies of the Nation, and there is no reason why it should not, some men will have to sacrifice their time and money to make it possible. It is the duty of the good citizen to serve when called. It is the duty of the good citizen to drop his own affairs and serve on a jury at small pay for the good of the community. He should willingly serve on a board though the pay amounts to virtually nothing. Today, more than ever before, Indianapolis needs men in its official \family of the highest standing and unquestioned integrity. We find no fault personally with those serving now. One thing is certain—lndianapolis is going to have anew mayor and it is more than reasonable to suppose that that new mayor will want to be surrounded with the men he thinks best fitted, and with whom he can work best. Granting that some changes in the official family will be bound to take place it is the hope of all citizens that partisan affairs will be forgotten, that golf games will not be permitted to interfere, that a business responsibility will be placed on the shoulders of a partner, colleague or subordinate and that personal affairs will suffer for the good of the community at large.With the elimination of Duvall and Duvallism let us have an end to bigotry and fanaticism. With the end of Duvall and Duvallism let usj have an end to partisan factionalism in which the city of Indianapolis has been the loser and greatest sufferer. With the end of Duvall and Duvallism let us have a united city where racial hatreds will not be known, where bigotry and fanaticism have no place, where the greatest good for the greatest number will be paramount. The world will soon see our better side and with that sight will come more factories, bigger pay rolls, more business, better home life and lower taxes. In truth, “ ’Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished for.” Honkers Maybe the fellow who honks his horn the loudest and longest in any given traffic jam is the most important person in that crowd—but we doubt it. If you’re nervous and your car should happen to stall in any city street and a couple of these honkers get behind you, may Heaven help you! You can’t hear yourself think for these impatient, annoying ’•pests. The slightest delay brings them out in a raucous chorus. They may not be going anywhere, indeed, most often they’re not, but they want to get there just the same, and you would think they are bent op missions of life and death to hear the imperative blasts. There are other ways of showing selfishness that &re not so blantant and asinine as this. You are just one little car in a traffic jam and all the honking in the world can’t help you out of it. When you’re caught, the best thing to do after all is to accept the situation philosophically and “pipe down.” If motorists the world over devoted the same assiduous energy to learning how to drive that they lend to the button of their horn, there would be fewer accidents. And less wasteful and nerve-jangling racket. Irony—and Justice Grim irony tinges today’s news. In a courtroom in Washington an old man hears from the unwilling lips of his son-in-law evidence that may end his desperate hope of escaping prison sentence. In Oklahoma City announcement is made of distinct honor paid to a younger man whom the old man had once threatened to ruin. ~*v * * * Into the modest little office of Carl C. Magee, publisher of an Albuquerque, New Mexico, newspaper, there strode the lean, powerful figure of Albert B. Fall, U. S. Senator and boss of the State. A fist was banged down on the editor’s desk and an ultimatum waa issued. The editor would stop asking questions about the public land office or would be driven out of the State. The editor didn’t stop asking questions. He asked

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them a little more pointedly. The effort to drive him out of the State began. Senator Fall’s resources and resourcefulness seemed, for a time, sufficient for the job. The publisher's resources were slight although his resourcefulness was not. He found his credit at the bank cut off, but his credit with his readers was unimpaired. He explained what was happening and his readers came forward with funds. But it was an unequal fight. The publisher turned to the Scripps-Howard organization for aid. He got it. His struggling newspaper became a member of the Scripps-Howard newspaper family, and he continued to turn his questioning mind on affairs in New Mexico. One thing he questioned was a sudden access of prosperity on the part of the man, now a cabinet officer, who proposed to ruin him. He never was driven from the State, but he journeyed voluntarily to Washington to report to thd Senate committee then investigating Teapot Dome, what he had observed of this new prosperity. This proved the connecting link in the fragmentary evidence being collected by the Senate committee. It was the beginning of the end of the monumental conspiracy whereby two oil multimillionaires, Doheny and Sinclair, had succeeded with Secretax-y Fall’s assistance in seizing Government oil lands worth hundreds of millions of dollars. The end came two weeks ago when the United States Supreme Court caused the return of the last of these properties to the people. * * * Carl C. Magee, whose experience as editor and publisher in Albuquerque—the above being merely one episode—had been one of the dramas of American journalism, yesterday was named editor of the Oklahoma City News. The News is one of the most important of Scripps-Howard newspapers, but the concern feels honored by his acceptance of the place. Fall’s case is with the court and jury. His situation at the moment appears desperate. There is no pleasure in this fact, however, for Magee, as he expressed his feeling to the present writer. His battle with the former Secretary of the Interior was purely impersonal. He was fighting corruption and he considered his fight won when the stolen oil lands were restored. A Landlubber’s Advice When a feller’s father was a Magruder and his mother was a Kilpatrick and his profession is to fight and his hair is red, what the tarnation is one to do about it if he just doesn’t know when to break olf a row? It probably was some such embarrassed query as this that Secretary of the Navy Wilbur posed himself in the case of the doughty Rear Admiral Magruder, commanding at the Philadelphia Navy Yard and lambasting the naval administration, so to speak, in press and pulpit. His answer to his own poser is unusually interesting not only because of its originality but because it may serve as a tip to the anxious parents of our flaming or otherwise obstreperous youth. What Secretary Wilbur did was not punish this critical son of the navy but yank him out of his job in the Quaker City and pull him back to Washington, there to sit and wonder what is going to happen to him next. This was not punitive, says the secretary, just administrative. So the next time junior pulls sister’s hair and makes her yowl, don’t punish him. Simply make him remove his skates, lock him in a closet without supper and intimate to him gently but firmly that he’ll be punished when he comes out if he doesn’t behave. This you will do purely as a matter of ordinary household administration. If you are any way dubious about how junior would feel after this “administrative” act of yours, just ask the admiral. * * * Admiral Magruder seems to have got away with his recent magazine article criticising the navy for being over-officered and over-organized. Following a moment of excitement, Secretary Wilbur announced he had asked the officer for plans and with that he considered the incident closed. “But,” the scrappy admiral afterward remarked to a reporter, “there is a rotten condition and I have exposed it. The navy is now spending $300,000,000 and getting $200,000,000 worth of navy.” And later, at a Knights of Columbus banauet: “They never have asked me for plans and I doubt if they will. If they do, I’ll give them something to think about.” “Please inform the department in categorical terms,” the secretary at once inquired by letter, “whether or not the words just quoted were said,” adding tastily: “Please acknowledge this letter upon its receipt and make prompt reply.” Making it categorical and snappy, as per request, the admiral replied with a yes. The rest is history. What will happen next no one appears to know, for while President Coolidge does not seem inclined to revoke Secretary Wilbur’s order removing the admiral from the Philadelphia Navy Yard, the secretary says he has “not yet determined what orders will be given” the officer. Recently Admiral Magruder predicted he might be sent to Guam. That, be it said, is a naval officer’s idea of the jumping-off place, midway between the middle of the Pacific ocean and nowhere in particular. Between us landlubbers, Mr. Secretary, here’s a tip"gratis. Keep the admiral right here in this country and furnish him all the help he may require to work out a scheme to save us 1100,000,000 a year by giving us a $200,000,000 worth of navy for $200,000,000.

Law and Justice By Dexter M. Keezer

A woman ate a chicken sandwich which poisoned her. She sued the restaurant proprietor for damages, claiming that in selling her the sandwich a guarantee was implied that it was wholesome and safe for human consumption. The restaurant proprietor resisted the claim for damages on the ground that poisonous effect of the sandwich was not due to negligence on his part. He claimed that unless it could be established that he was negligent in preparing the sandwich the woman could not collect damages. He said that he could not be held to guarantee all of the food products sold in his restaurant, and that if they were properly prepared he was relieved of liability. ‘ HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE THIS CASE? The actual decision: An Appellate Court in Indiana affirmed the jury award of S4OO of damages to the woman. The court said that the sale of food by the restaurant proprietor was accompanied by an implied guarantee that the food was wholesome, and if this proved not to be so he was liable for the resulting damage.

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M. E. TRACY SAY Si The Process by Which Indianapolis Acquired Its New Mayor Reads Like “The House That Jack Built.”

The inquiry now going on in Albany as to whether Mrs. Florence Knapp, former Secretary of State, conducted the New York State census of 1925 improperly, grows out of one of those delightful ventures where public money is fritted away to no worth while purpose. The question of whether pay rolls were padded seems rather unimportant compared to the question of why New York should spend $1,200,000 for counting noses between Federal censuses. Os course, it is a political game, and is recognized as such by everybody concerned. Lafayette B. Gleason, who directed the census and who is secretary of the Republican State committee, voiced no unique or original view when he said he regarded the census as a Republican affair because a Republican Legislature had authorized it. A less authoritative, but no less sincere confirmation of this view came from a young Democrat in the Bronx three years ago, who exclaimed when he heard of Mrs. Knapp’s election, “There goes my census job!” * * * Senator’s Debt to Science Senator Du Pont is one more man who can thank heaven that he lives in this day of scientific progress. If he had been born a generation earlier, had suffered from his throat affliction ten years ago, he would be a dumb, if not a dying man. The rapid advance of medicine, especially through the aid of other sciences, makes it possible not only to remove his larynx without too much risk, but to supply him with an artificial one. * * * House Duvall Gave Up The process by which Indianapolis acquired its new mayor reads like “The House That Jack Built.” , Paraphrased in the style of that immmortal jingle, it runs about as follows: This is John L. Duvall who resigned ; This is Mrs. Duvall, whom he appointed controller before he resigned, and who succeeded him as maj'or after ho resigned; This is Ira M. Holmes, whom Mrs. Duvall appointed controller before she resigned and who succeeded her as mayor after she resigned; This is Mrs. Ira M. Holmes, whom her husband left to guard the mayor’s office while he went out to breakfast; This is Claude E. Negley, whom the council had elected mayor the previous afternoon, but who could not get into the office on account of a police detail Holmes had summoned to guard it; This is the court that issued an injunction with which Negley : shooed away the police guard and took the office from Mrs. Holmes. * * * New Strife Forecast J. M. Kenworthy, member of the British House of Commons and formerly a member of the admiralty war staff, has written another book. It is entitled “Peace or War,” contained an introduction by H. G. Wells and will be published about the middle of November. According to advance notices the book describes the present naval rivalry, with its background of competition in oil, rubber, cotton and other raw materials; the state of mind prevailing in England and America which interpreted as favorable to war; the financial dominance of this country; the consequent jealousy of Europe and other circumstances which, in the author's opinion, forecasts strife. * * * Red—Tinged Horizon Commander Kenworthy not only beholds the shadow of conflict between England and America, but the possibility of it between England and Russia. Added to this, he visualizes national rivalries in the Orient as likely to precipitate a great struggle at any time. As he sees it, the horizon is tinged with red on every hand. # * * Key to World Peace Regarding the likelihood of a war between America and England, Commander Kenworthy writes: “The key to world peace is friendship between Great Britain and the United States of America. Will this friendship be endangered? And how can it be preserved?” Then it goes on to explain how the Washington naval conference of 1921 seemed to create a better understanding between the two countries, but how this feeling began to grow worse after the failure of the Geneva conference. Adding Fuel to Fire Is not the commander jumping at conclusions too quickly? Has the Geneva conference been over long enough for any one to appraise its effect on public opinion, and putting that aside, did its failure settle anything? It is possible to take any disagreement between nations and build‘a theory of impending conflict around it. Loose talk plays the same part here as it plays in the promotion of family quarrels. If men like Commander Kenworthy were as interested in peace and as apprehensive of war as they profess, they hardly would add fuel to the fire by broadcasting such hasty conclusions.

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(Anderson Herald) < Republican) We have in Detroit an amazing political situation today. There a candidate for re-election to the office of mayor is hoping to continue in office because of his . stand on the prohibition law. This DCirlnl np man - John w - Smith, says he does not yjjLtiui ut- be j ieve in the Eighteenth Amendment, fiance Os does not obey it himself and therefore the Law will not enforce it upon others if he is returned to office. What a spectacle! John W. Smith chooses to determine for himself which of the federal laws he will or will not obey. He is bigger than the American congress, the U. S. Supreme Court, or any number of State Legislatures. He, in effect says: “I am the law.” That is what a king, inflated with his self-importance, once said. Laws are made by majority action. The Eighteenth Amendment was enacted by a majority vote in the United States Congress and ratified by the Legislatures of thirty-three States. For any man to have the effrontery to say; “That shall not be law because I do not belief in it; I shall not obey it.” is to immediately disqualify him for any office in the minds of all persons who can think straight. When a candidate for mayor in one of the. nation's greatest cities has the audacity to strike at the very heart of our governmental system it is surely time for every voter to begin thinking of the rights that are guaranteed to him by the United States Constitution. To assail it in one place, and then try to get protection under it from another, is the height of hypocrisy. It is almost inconceivable that a man in his right mind would take such a stand as Mayor Smith has on any federal or State law. But to take that position in the expectation of winning votes is a form of mental corruption that is far more dangerous than Bolshevism. It is anarchy in practice. Will Detroit rally around the banner of such an un-American demagogy? Or will the citizens of that metropolis place him in political oblivion, or among the curiosities of the age, where he properly belongs?

You can get an answer to any question ol fact or Information by writing to The Indianapolis Times Washington Bureau, 1322 New York Ave., Washington, D. C.. inclosing 2 cents in stamps for reply. Medical, legal and marital advice cannot be given nor can extended research be undertaken. All other questions will receive a personal reply. Unsigned requests cannot be answered. All letters are confidential.— Editor. When was the Southern Railway chartered and organized? Chartered Feb. 20, 1894; and the company organized June 18, 1894. What is the highest mountain in the world? Mount Everest in Indo-China. It is 29,002 feet above sea level.' What are the four leadiyig- railroad centers of the United States? Chicago, St. Louis, Ms.; Buffalo, N. Y., and Minneapolis, Minn. What is “anti-disestablishmen-tarianism”? A doctrine of opposition to disestablishment; specifically of a State church. Is Arizona a mountainous State? More than two-thirds of the total area of the State has an altitude of 3,000 feet or over. What is fiber or reed furniture mads of? Fiber furniture is made of paper wrapped on wire; reed furniture is made of reed, a kind of dried grass. Os what church was Queen Victoria a member? She was a Protestant and a member of the Church of England. What is the meaning of the names “Esther,” “Thelma” and “Lydia?” Esther Is from the Persian and means a “star”; Thelma is from the Greek and means “Bloom,” and Lydia from the Greek and. means a native of Lydia in Asia Minor. I wish to serve a light luncheon or some form of refreshment to a group of four women and four men at my home. It will be an evening of musical entertainment, from 8 to 11 o’clock. Should coffee be served? If luncheon is chosen, what should be served? If refreshments, what would you suggest? Here are two menus for luncheon: 1. Consomme, creamed chicken, sweetbreads or tuna fish in pate shells, artichoke salad or celery hearts, Neapolitan ice cream and coffee. 2. Cream of celery soup, combination sandwich, Waldorf salad, orange ice or gelatine and coffee. As the entertainment is to last

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until late, the luncheon would be preferable, but if you should decide to serve only refreshments, the following combinations are suitable: Pineapple sponge, angel food cake, coffee; chocolate sundae, lady fingers, ginger ale. Who is the author of the phrase, "to err is human, to forgive is divine”? The most familiar form of the quotation is found in Pope’s Essay on Criticism. It is, however, an ancient proverb, found in the early Greek and Latin writers, and is translated and quoted in a variety of forms. Is “dove” a correct past tense of “dive”? In correct usage today the verb “dive” is regular, the parts being dive, dived, diving. In colloquial use, however, the old irregular past

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(Goshen News-Times) (Republican) “The cheapest man we hire at the city hall is the city manager,” says the mayor of a city where tho mayor's job has become merely nominal, and the manager runs nearly everything. That city manager gets $25,000 a year. It is a big salary. Many think it is too high. But a good many other citizens, particularly business men, seem to agree that he is easily worth every cent of it. For he is a good executive, and good executives come high. He can, and probably does, save that $25,000 a year many times over in awarding contracts, in picking subordinates, in adjusting salaries of hundreds of employees, and above all, in planning constructively for the present needs and future development of the city. “The shortest road,” says a motorist who does considerable touring, "is usually the best paved road, no matter how long it is.” Likewise it might be said, with reasonable allowances made, that the cheapest executive for any job. public or private, is the highest-priced man. (The Daily Oklahoman) (Oklahoma City, Okla.) Both Indiana and Alabama are making gratifying progress in the war their best citizens are waging to free their States from wide-spread crime. It is significant that the campaign for law enThe forcement in both States was begun p and for a long time conducted solely 1 ress by a free and fearless press. CorrupDelivers tion in Indiana government went unchallenged until a small band of fearless Hoosier editors resolved to expose and terminate the saturnalia. Mob law laughed at w'ritten statutes in Alabama until the Birmingham and Montgomery newspapers started a war for law enforcement that has sent a goodly number of recruits to the State’s penitentiary population. Both States owe much to the vigilance of a free and courageous press. Both Indiana and Alabama have worthy candidates for the prize annually awarded to the American newspaper that has rendered the most notable public service.

tense “dove” is still retained. Dived is better. ..How long did John L. Sullivan hold the heavyweight, championship? How long did Jack Dempsey hold it? Sullivan held it for ten years, from 1882 to 1892; Dempsey from 1919 to 1926. In what year were gold quarterdollars coined by the United States Government? They never have been issued by the United States Government. In 1870 and 1871 gold quarter-dollars were coined privately In California. What is an amethyst supposed to symbolize? Sincerity. Who wrote the Articles of Confederation? They wera drawn up by a committee; the manuscrip is in the handwriting of John Dickinson. Does Italy maintain public schools supported by the State? Yes. Who played the part of the , wounded soldier in the movie, “‘The Keeper of the Bees”? Robert Frazer. How tall is Charles Lindbergh? Six feet two inches. What is the harm of filibuster in Congress? The principal harm Is that it wastes time. On the other hand, filibusters have frequently been useful in preventing the passage of vicious legislation long enough for public opinion to be aroused and make certain of its final defeat. What is the value of a United States silver dollar dated 1801, fillet head, large eagle? These coins are valued at $1.50 j to $2. What is the value of 100,000 German marks dated Feb. 1, 1923? They are worthless. What does “mon cher” mean? It is the French for “my dear” (masculine form). What Is the altitude of New Orleans? Five feet above sea level. Who were the two children who took part in the photoplay “The Magic Garden?” Philippe de Lacy and Joyce Coat.

OCT. 29, 1927

Times Readers Voice Views

The name and address of the author must accorapnny every contribution, but on request will not be published. Letters not exceeding 200 words will receiv# preference. To the Editor: Why are the courts of our “No Mean City” taking a back seat when it comes to cleaning the atmosphere of the present political scandal? Perhaps, never in the history of a city has there been a condition parallel to our “Mayor” situation. If the matter is not officially settled very soon, it will complicate the legal affairs of our city for many months to come. Imagine one of our self-styled mayors signing a contract for building material, school supplies or street repairs—when he may be ousted tomorrow—and the next man in the mayor’s chair disregarding the legality of the contracts. To the outsider this “mayor affair” of ours is becoming funny. As one man on the street said to another, “What arc we going to do with all of the mayors over at city hall?” A READER OF THE TIMES. To the Editor: Women in street cleaning department? Why not! None of us permit trash and dlrfi in our own yards. We would not let filth remain in gutters, business and residential streets, either. Give the women a trial! STELLA ANDERSON. To the Editor: I noticed In the Indianapolis Star of the 18th that SIOO,OOO has been deducted from the assets of the J. F. Wild & Co’s State Bank—by an injunction filed by Frank T. Millikan, Robert I. Todd and John J. Appel, claiming the notes they gave to the above bank for SIOO,OOO were “accommodation notes without value received,” and therefore should be exempt from payment of same. Then why did they give these notes? To illustrate this transaction: Suppose A becomes an endorser on a note for B, and when the noto becomes due B is unable to pay the note, then tho burden of payment falls upon A as endorser, although A has received no value whatever—this transaction is merely an “accommodation” to B. These gentlemen claim it would work a hardship upon them to bo forced to pay these notes. If the notes were signed in good faith (which they evidently were, as they were accepted by the Slate Bank Examiner as part of the bank's assets), then the signers of these notes should be compelled to pay them. Do not these gentlemen realize the hardships brought upon the depositors of this bank, many of whom had all their savings in the J. F. Wild & Company’s bank? Then again, if Messrs. Millikan, Todd and Appel gava these notes in order to deceive the otatc Bank Examiner then they become parties to a conspiracy to defraud. JOHN ROBBINS. 517 East Twenty-Fifth St. A depositor.

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The waiter and the cook had a partnership. They worked together in a lunch car during the day and they shared the same cot at night. More than that, they shared the operating expenses of the cook's I none too demure Ford. The waiter was a lad of 18. At 115 he had been yanked out of school by his stepfather, a man who believed that boys wasted time in school which they might better be improving in the fields—and he had other Ideas in common. Finally Tim ran away. * He had completed only the eighth grade, due to frequent interferences in his education, and he hankered to go on to high school. £io he bargained with his employer to let him work from 5 p. m. to 2 a. m., that he might attend school during the day. One afternoon just before he was to go on duly at the lunch car ha jumped in the fliv and took himself a short ride. He went whizzing through a side street and almost before he had noticed it he had dashed across a preferential street without stopping until he met a north-bound machine owned by a local delivery company. Despite the discrepancy in sizes and ages, the flivver walked all over the other car and Tim was arrested for reckless driving, not heeding the traffic laws property damage, and as many charges as could be located In that short space of time. It looked bad for Tim. Here was a possible Jail sentence, a damage bill he could not pay, and his education all shot to pieces. But his case came up before a clear-headed judge. Throwing him into jail would do nobody any good. Tim would not only become a public charge, but the damage claim would doubtless j*vcr be paid and society would be the loser by a young citizen and several hundred dollars. The judge called in the social service director of the Church Federation to talk over the probation problems surrounding Tim. By the worker’s plan the boy’s sentence was suspended that he not only might make restitution to the delivery company, but that he might go on with his schooling. He is paying a small amount per week for the damage he has done and his progress is being watched. He is a grateful youngster to the Judge, the social worker and through the latter to YOUR COMMUNITY FUND. Where is Dartmouth College located? Hanover, N. H. What is the value of a United States silver half dollar dater 1831? From 50 to 75 cents. What is the origin and meaning of the name Edith? It Is Teutonic and means “rich gift” or “happiness.” What is the cause of soft shells In eggs? It is probably duo to a shortage of lime. Feed more lime to the hens and give them more exercise.