Indianapolis Times, Volume 37, Number 164, Indianapolis, Marion County, 10 November 1925 — Page 13

NOV. 10, 1925

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r- n N Wednesday night the amateur mitt sllngers have an Inning at South Side turner Hall. There is one pleasing feature. Official winners will je selected in each bout. There will be no doubt about the victors. Like the Dickens there won’t! Boxing is a peculiar sport in .hat each spectator picks his own winner. There is.no score. The points are matters of opinion and ire not tangible things to be marked up on a board in figures. In football the losing team’s rooters may point to the yardage totaled and first downs gained and say their club showed the most stuff. That's what Chicago is doing this week to Illinois. But all the winners have to do is to uention the score. After all, that s what counts. There is no way to settle a boxing dispute. If a man is sure his favorite won a vast preponderence of evidence in the way of expert opinion will not change his mind. There is no gong to halt the verbal bouts after the actual conlicts are over. There is no score is the final argument in rebuttal. * * * Atitti.SS THE BOARD TODAY : • • o Two winners at Pimlleo on Monday aided a few dollars to the bunk roll. Lorenzo and Captain Martin were the >ay.off horses. In reality we had three vinners for Itlg Blaze heat the ones we aid he would beat. An added starter In he race. Single Foot, won and Big Blaze vas second. It Is our rule to draw our money vhen there Is an added starter. It Is nly fair that we have a chance at all he entries and whether our selection vins or loses the wager Is off when any >ther horses run except those shown In lie original entries—the only ones we lave a chance to see as far as this olumn Is concerned. The bank roll tony Is 1)025.00. Again Pimlico Is the only track in >peration. The feature today at the Maryland course Is the Bowie Handicap. If the track was fast we'd string along with Princess Doreen, a great Ally. But It was heavy on Monday and probably can’t dry out very much for today’s program. The I . lncess was out of the money on t sloppy track last time out. She has won on slow and good tracks, but her best efforts have been turned in when the going was fast. Joy Smoke also Is a real danger In this race, but we’ll try AGA KUAN, $lO win, place and show. SARAZKN In the fourth can do it If not In one of his sulking mouds. We’ll ;uess he wonts to run today for s‘ls win and place. Now to stab a few. FUECHITA In the third Is worth $0 across coupled with KANDUIT In the seventh. There’s a parlay that will pay a hatful if—. In the sixth $5 win, place and show will be put on LORD BALTIMORE 11. He be a good price. w OW wo know why they call I him "Babbit” Maranville. l.’i. J It's because he hops around bo much. The Babbit has just hopped over to Brooklyn. It is the fourth National league club on which the veteran shortstop has played. He started out and rose to stardom with Boston. He then went to Pittsburgh, next to Chicago and finally has ended up with the Robins. The next hop probably is downward to the minors. It is the story of many baseball players—the story of life as time sweeps relentlessly onward. • • Butler must have . hit hard on last Saturday against the beefy Hwides of Minnesota. Reports from the Minneapolis camp are to the effect that six of the regulars Were on the Injured list and sat on the sidelines Monday at practice. * * * mIE new field house of the University of lowa, to be completed in the fall of l'Jiiti, claims to have the largest indoor swimming pool in the land, i It likely will be used as a place to practice football os a bit of preparedness for another wet season such as the present one, * * * A press dispatch says that, a fooiAaU team was penalized % of an Wpi when the ball was moved up one-half the distance to the goal line on a penalty when the pigskin .was only 1% Inches away. Tills brings to mind the fact that ( he longest and shortest penalty on the football field may be the same—one half the distance to the goal lino. • * • There are unite a few football battles on Armistice day. That’s a heck of a way to celebrate such an occasion. * * * SITE most mournful coach in football now has something to make him melancholy. The question is: If Gil I>oble of Cornell is gloomy when he wins, to what depths of Stygian despair has he dropped since that overwhelming, annihilating defeat by Dartmouth? And anotlier question: If Coach Stngg annually “fears” Purdue what must be his trembling terror when he thinks of Dartmouth next Saturday? • * * The New York Boxing commission must t>e proud of its nominee for the lightweight championship. In case you forget there ever was fighter, the bird’s name is Goodrich. Just where is he hidfflg these days? • * * fxyr) HAT we can’t understand is W how some figure that Mln- ' nesota is leading the Big Ten. The Gophers have not won and they have not lost. That looks like a percentage of .000 to us. They should be just ahead of Purdue and Indiana in the standing, the Boilermakers and Crimson having lost all their games. MURPHY VICTOR 9v United Press PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 1 tny Murphy, . Trenton 'lightweight, was awarded the Judge’s decision at the end of his ten-round go with Eddie (KidJ Wagner of Philadelphia.

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DAYTON’S ATTACK SS FAST Thriller Game Promised in Butler’s Home Finale Struggle Saturday. There is going to be some action at Irwin Field Saturday when Butler closes its home grid schedule. Dayton University, the “boom school,” will provide the opposition and the warriors from the Buckeye State are said to be full of speed. Last Saturday the Dayton squad defeated the roving Haskell Indians and that victory indicates the boys must know their "onions.” Two former Notre Dame players coach at Dayton and they teach the "swift” attack. City Backs Its Team A few years back the Dayton institution was just an institution, but it has undergone a boom recently in which the entire city helped and it has climbed out of the little class of colleges into something important. Sport fans in Dayton have learned to take their college grid team seriously and the boys always are well supported. It is not a long trip from Dayton to Indianapolis and there will be plenty of rooters here with the visitors Saturday. Finale of Season Owing to bad weather conditions there are many Indianapolis grid fans who have not been to Irwin Field this fail and they hope to get out there Saturday for the season’s finale scrap. Jut Paul, Butler graduate manager, has expressed the expert opinion that the Dayton-Butler struggle will be a thriller. Jut is a close follower of the dope and is not in the habit of making wild predictions. This same Mr. Paul was among the few experts who predicted Red Grange would run wild against Penn. And Grange did that very thing. Therefore, if you are a grid fan, leave Saturday open for a trip to Irwin Field.

Sox’s Need Bv NEA Service Nov. 10. —Owner ( | Comiskey of the Chicago White Sox realizes his club must have a star shortstop if it is to be in the running next year. It is understood he has given orders that no expense be spared in landing the right man. Eddie Collins wants a finished player, one able to step right into the big show and deliver. White Sox scouts have reported that Ernest Boiey of the Baltimore Club is such a player. Boiey has been ready for the majors for several years and only Jack Dunn’s refusal to part with him has prevented the Oriole shortstop from going up sooner.

J. J. C. DRILLS CARDED Three Practices Slated Before Meeting Harrison Soldiers Sunday. Members of the J. J. C.s football team are requested to report for practice et 7:30 p. m. Wednesday at Indianolo Park on W. Washington St. Drills also will be held Friday evening and Sunday morning. The J. J.- C.s will battle with the Ft. Benj. Harrison regular team at Pennsy Park Sunday.

Basketball Notes

The Beech Grove Triangles want Samoa in the 10-17-year-old &aa with twuna with or without ifynis. Write Reeves The Lauter A. C.s will have a strong: basketball team this season. The live will ouen the season Friday uieht at the club xym aealn3t the Postoniee outfit. I'he A. C.s’ schedule includes srames with Ft. Harrison teams. Smithvilie, Cumberland and others. Dates may bo arranged by addresalnir A. B. Caldwell. IJI4 W. Market St., or calling; Belmont 3041. GREENFIELD. Ind., Nov 10.—Basketball (femes are wanted with teams playinir In the 13-year-old class. Write Feuy Barnes, 310 W. Wainut St.. Greenfield, Ind. The Postal Telegraph basketball team wishes to schedule (tames with teams playing; in the 16 and 18-year-old class. For (fames call Main 3000 alter 0 p. m. and aek lor Bill. The St. Anthony Y. P. C. basketball team Will meet the Red Hawk Club Thursday nlgrht at St. Anthony’s Hall. The Red Hawk line-un includes such men as Kelly of Cathedral. Floyd of Manual, Smith of Purdue. Perkins, fromer Indiana star: Turk of Tech. Salee of Pittsboro IIl(fh Schdol and Lingrerman. former Bradley Tech njan. The Y. P. C.s have added Jamison former Jeff Higrh star, and Grimsley of Fortville Hlxh School. Thursday evening’s tame will act under way at 8:16 and will be followed by a dance. State und local teams desiring; games with the Y. P. C.s should address Joe Connor. 637 N. Addison St., or call Belmont 0720-W. Brgrhtwood Premiers defeated the Belmont A. C. Sunday. 20 to 0 A came Is wanted for Sunday with the Southpaws or J. J. C.s. Prartice will be tonight and Friday. Turner. Bell and Berry take notice. For (fames in city or State address Jack O’Brien. 1302 E. Raymond St., or call Lincoln 2729. Independent Football The Acme A. A sand the Brookside A. A.s staked a thriller (fame at Rhodius Park Sunday the Acmes winning-. 7 to 6. The Acmes’ touchdown came in the first ouarter on a pass. Zimmerman to Daly. Next Sunday the Acmes will meet the Hingo A. C.s at Rhodius Park. The Acmes will practice Wednesday night at the regular Plate. For games with the Acmes call Belmont 4280-W and ask for Bill. The Brookside A. A.s will play the Tuxedo Bulldogs Sunday at Brookside Park at 2:45 o. m. The game is carded lor the championship of the east side. Practice will be held Wednesday night at 7:30. All players are requested to be on hand or call Miller at Humboldt 1003. South Side Reserves will play the Trial.gle A. C.s at Garfield Park Sunday. This should be an exciting game for south side fans. Practice for S. 3. R. at Pleasant Run Blvd.. 9:30 a. yi. Sunday. The Bingo A. C. was defeated by the Christamore A. C. Sunday afternoon at Riverside Park. 8 to 6. The Christamores intercepted a pass in the fourth quarter and wen in the last few minutes of play. The Military Midget* and Christamore Cubs fought to a O-to-O tie at Riverside football field. Military will practice tonight ana Friday night. Any team playing in the forty-pound e'aas wishing games with Military call Lincoln 7972 and ask for Char Me. between 5:30 and 6 p. m. Cathedral Midgets and Apollog take notice

SAFE YOU’RE OUT!

By Eddie Asli SHERE Is but one set of persons in Uncle Sam’s domain getting any pleasure out of the terrific weather being concocted toward the utter ruination of our college football games. And it is quite an army, too, this gang that refuses to weep each turn of the weekly rain wheel. Many of the college boys who left the North for the boom State of Florida departed tearfully when they thought of the grid classics they were leaving behind. The fear of homesickness never entered their thoughts, but leaving old "Alma Mat” and homecoming days chilled their hearts. But they haven’t missed a thing yet! The Everglades can not show much more mog than northern gridirons on Saturday. When Notre Dame played Georgia Tech at Atlanta, Oct. 31, a number of the adventurers in Florida silenced their real estate loud speakers and made the Jaunt to Atlanta. And they saw? You guessed it. Rain, rain, rain. And they turned right around, said good-by and sprinted back to the land where the Weather Man is fixed. ’ • • • If the water pressure isn’t cut off on our grid contests the sport may develop into something else —water footballing! Big game of the fall in Indianapolis—Butler Bullfrogs vs. Wabash Little Whales. At South Bend —Notre Dame Nimrods vs. Nebraska Halibuts. At Lafayette—Purdue Herrings vs. Indiana Cods. And in the amateur column —The Little Minnows (hard to catch) will play the West Side Ducklings at Rhodius Purk in pool No. 3. • • • And for all-America yell leader we suggest Pola Negri in a onepiece bathing scanty. • * * Our latest song hit —"Mud Pie for Twenty-Two.” • • • It isn’t likely the Idea of restricting football periods to forty plays ever will be generally adopted.... Few quarter can remember that many. * • • There are no new wrinkles in wrestling unless you count the fifth one on the elder Zbyszko’s chin. • • • Gene Tunney graduated from the artists’ colony in Greenwich village... .This may explain his skill in drawing the color line.

QrikQwz QUESTIONS 1. What ! the penalty If a player l thrown to the (•round after HlKimlinK far iuul making a fair rut eh? V. What are the restrictions on the lights of the players tut to hatting a ball that is In the air? 3. What Is the definition of interlocked interference? ANSWERS 1. Player making lair catch la Immune from bring tackled. When opposing player throws him to the ground, his team is Penalized by the loss of fifteen yards for said violation. 2. A player may at any time bat the ball In any direction except toward his opponents' goal. There is one exception. When the ball Is In the air as the result of a forward pass, any eligible player of either side may bat the bail In any direction to prevent an opponent from securing It. .‘l. Interlocked Interference la the grasping of one another by or encircling the i'ody to any degree with the hands or the arms by the players of the side with the tail. HARD DRILL Ferndales to Work Out for Hartford City Fray. Coach Erehart of the Ferndales has called practice for Wednesday night and the local warriors will put in a hard session drilling for the game with the strong Hartford City team at Washington Park Sunday. Sunday grid fans were cheated out of their weekly entertainment last Sunday by the weather man and a large crowd is expected to see the Hartford City battle. Former college stars are included In the Hartford City line-up, among the number being Holwerda, who starred for Purdue In the backfield. Reno, the well-known veteran of the strong Wabash A. A. team that "used to be," Is playing one of the wing positions. Sunday's j?ame will be called at 2:30. European Boxers Invade U. S. Btl Times Special NEW. YORK, Nov. 10. —If. many more European boxers head for these shores the Immigration authorities may have' to impose a quota upon the ambitious fistic multitude across the Atlantic. Right now it seems as though there is a foreign fighter and his manager In every other stateroom of Incoming liners. The latest is Johnny Brown, bantamweight champion of Europe, due on the Leviathan. Brown, a diminutive firecracker of Hebrew persuasion from the famous and far from ladylike Whitechapel district of London, comes In search of a match with Charlie (Phil) Rosenberg for the world’s title. The European bantam champ treads on the heels of Lucien Vines, European lightweight champ, whoso debut was staged at the new Broadway Sporting Club Monday night. And Vines was not far behind the European flyweight champ, Ernie Jarvis. The number of mere boxers from over the seas is legion. Meanwhile, the American title-holders are showing little disposition to risk their titles. Seldom is the history of the business have we had so many Inactive champions. Johnny Brown will have to step some, or prove himself not so good, if he hopes to catch up with Charlie Rosenberg, who Is keeping his title wrapped In cotton wool out on the Pacific coast. EDGE TO MENDELSOHN Bv United Press MILWAUKEE, W!s., Nov. 10.—In a slow and uninteresting bout Johnny Mendelsohn won a shade decision over Buddy McDonald, St. Paul. Joe Zarrella won over Joe Jawson In the semi-wind up in eight rounds and Joey Clein stopped Paul Allen in the eighth round of another eight rounder. FRATERNITY GRID Delta Phi Sigma defeated Lambda Chi Alpha, 6 to 0, at Jamieson Park grid on Monday in the semifinals of the Butler Interfraternity football series. The winners will meet Phi Delta Theta for the title next week. The only score came as the result of a blocked punt. LAYTON TAKES TWO Bit United Press MILWAUKEE, Nov. 10.—Augie Kieckhefer of Chicago was the loser In two national three cushion games here Monday to Johnny Layton. The sijores were 50 to 4j) in fifty innings and 50 to 37 in forty frames.

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NET EVENTS Independent Basket List to Be Increased. Wayne Emmelmann, Indianapolis, director of the Central States Amoteur Independent Basketball Association, predicts that 700 Hoosier independent teams will take part in the eighth annual Indiana amateur Independent basketball championship this season. The project has grown very rapidly in Indiana and In seven years’ time the entries have increased from sixteen to 544 teams. Thirty-eight sectional meets will be held in Indiana this year and the winners of these sectional meets then will meet here in Indianapolis the latter part of February to decide the champions. Last season the Central States Amateur Independent Basketball Association declared champions in eleven States, the States being Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Michigan, North Dakota and Missouri. The program will branch out into five new States this year which will be Wisconsin Virginia, Kansas, South | Dakota and Oklahoma, Headquarters have been opened at rooms 234 and 238 K. of P. building. -, ' ' - ... ALONG THE SIDELINE? AT NOTRE DAME SOUTH BEND Nov. 10.—With ticket* sola out for weeks and the teu-m in good shape, interest is high here in anticipation of the Carnegie Tech encounter next \irdav. The varsity rested Monday while other members of the squad went throughout a workout. AT lOWA lOWA CITY. lowa. Nov. 10.—Cowboy Kutsch is working with the lowa team, boouts who have spied on Minnesota are htyh Jn their praise of the Gopher line attack. Moist of the work so tar has centered around n forward wall deferae. AT INDIANA BLOOMINGTON. Ind. Nov. 10.—Navy BUI lngium find nis Indianans sre bird Preparing 1 for Rose Poly next Saturday *\jul Purdue the following week. AT PURDUE n, f' A * ,AY J E T TE ‘ In(l - Nov. 10.—With tlit squad in excellent shape lH order in the. Bolii-rmaker WM>k - The UiKsr.'rt seat salt* of r.mi r „ ~ i o w OI L for , ‘be Northwestern ls c °“' AT OHIO STATF \Vlk2 L ll M ? ,TS it Ohio - Nov - 10 -—Coach Wllct* Is h ..ullnir out plenty of work in ’’irdua' 1 " 01 Tha X °wm e Mi<-hij;an (tamo Sat tea , m . <*XDet*.s to enter the fl'iTC, IV, , ‘iLr advice* havtnir lieen obtnined that Marek and Karow will be well Saturday of injuries sustained laiitvzeelt! AT MICHIGAN ARBOR. Mioh. Nov. lO ——Thrwiffti • h^UT 1 0 7 1,n at J S <m the ''ampun wer Fn" vEH 1 ’T P 8 ,“? Saturday "Hurry stiff out koine throutrb ®a!t Tha team that iMt t“ expeeted ‘o “wt a**lmvt AT WISCONSIN MADISON, Win., Nov. 10.—The Backrer TimS 1 fj! l f u° < ! d shape after the hWUini“^ l d S^rdrllf°^r^ffii: ?&£ w t£ rk tX and retrular wurk to be - AT NORTHWESTERN EVANSTON, HI, Nov. 10—" Moon" Baker la aifaJn at his old poet In the Northwestern line-up. With a possibility th£ tlS >rl d^T <v l "hamnlonshlD looming for “C* 1 .k? * lnc * the b'wa of Paddy Drtacoll, the team is worked up to a fever AT MINNESOTA . MINNEAPOLIS, Nov. 10—The Gapfsrid’ }J} a- rather bad way from injuries suffered in the* gajne la*t Saturday. Six HL O rjg-uiara were excused from practice Monday ajid others who were In unlS,i W TV not used. xt Ls doubtful if uapt&ln. Ai*?her and Conrad Cooper will be able to play. AT CHICAGO CHICAGO. Nov. 10.—Coach la priming’ his Chicago Maroons for the Important inter lectional clash with Dartmouth Satuniay hoping to increase the prestige m'ddleweetem football (rained when Illinois tmat Pennsylvania and Midiltran sank the Navy on the same day. The outlook on the Chicago campus is rloorny however. DECISION TO ROSSO Bit United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 10.—Johnny Rosso, Bronx heavyweight, gained the decision over Homer Smith, Kalamazoo veteran, after six fast rounds of boxing Monday night.

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F— "iRED FARLOW, representing the Fairbanks-Morse A. v__J C, will meet Cecil Hurt, a Turner entry. In one of the ten bouts on the card of the amateur boxing show to be given Wednesday night at the South Side Turner gymnasium. The boys are welterweights, and both have good records in the amateur game. TWO-MILE RUN FOR BOYS Event to Start at 2:30 Wednesday— Open to All. Amateur runners of Indianapolis will engage in a two-mile prize jaunt Wednesday under the auspices of the Boys’ Club. The event is open to boys not more than 17 years of age. The entry list numbered eight today and others desiring to participate are requested to call Belmont 3641. The run will start at 2:30 at the Lauter Memorial Club.

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By Ernie Vick, ___ Michigan, All-America Center, 1921 N the defense the center may play In on the line or play what they have termed In recent years "a roving center.” 1 roving center may play in or out on the line of scrimmage. 1 myself prefer the roving center, as there is always something to do. A roving center has a chance to diagnose plays, make most of the tackles and also intercept a number of short forward passes over the line of scrimmage. A roving center never should be played especially when a few line bucks for five yards for a touchdown are in order. But in the opponents’ territory, or midfield, the roving center is practical. The center should play from two to five yards back of the fine of scrimmage, according to number of down and play that is likely to be used. On close formation the roving center plays but two or three yards back of the line of scrimmage. In order that he can make the tackle on the line of scrimmage if possible. On open or punt formation, where ten or more yards are to be gained, he will play back about five or seven yards, looking for a pass, or kick, and, if it does happen to be an end run, he can meet it before the desired yardage is gained. In case of a forward pass he is responsible for the territory within a circle of 10 to 15-yard radius directly behind the center. If a kick is in order, he may try and break through and block the kick or back up and block the first man coming through to make the tackle.

WIGGINS TAKES SCRAP Ihman Suits for Bril ton and Is Lutpointcd by Chock. Bu Times Special MEMPHIS, Nov. 10.—Joe Lohman, Ohio light heavyweight, substituted for Billy Britton Monday night and took a pasting from Chuck Wiggins, Indianapolis. It was an eight-round bout and just a workout for the Hoosier. Britton became ill and relieved himself of the engagement with the speedy Indiana mauler. Wiggins fought Harry Greb style and Lohman didn’t seem to know what it was all about. ANOTHER GRID DEATH. Bu Times Special SPOKANE, Wash., Nov. 10.—Herliert Simpson, a member of the Spo-

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Grid Teams of East Side and North Side Groom for Clash on Irwin Field. Another city series high school football game features this week’s local gridiron schedule. Technical and Shortridge clash at Irwin Field, Friday at 2 p. in. On the same day, Westfield is at Broad Ripple. On Saturday, Manual plays Boys’ Prep at the latters’ grid.

Othen* contests are played away from home. Manual goes to Brazil, Ind., on Friday and Cathedral Is at Linton on Saturday to meet the strong eleven of that city. There Is not much doubt as to the favorite in the lntra-city contest between Tech and Shortridge. Th* east side aggregation has one of th’ most powerful elevens in the hlstorj of the school and has not lost a game to a Hocsler team. Coach Mueller is fighting any feel ing of over-confidence, however, and has his squad hard at work each day in preparation for the last two games of the season. Manual is to be met in the final city title games on Nov. 25. Shortridge is rather gloomy these days because of the loss of Kilgore, quarterback and main cog in the Blue attack. He was the punter and \ passer and his absence from the lineI up makes a big hole for Coach Goldsberry to fill. The coach is endeavoring to bfiild up anew backfield combination. Kern may be used at quarter. Manual is preparing for another tough battle at Brazil. Wiley High School team of Terre Haute, which defeated the Red and White last week, just nosed out Brazil, 14 to 13. Cathedral has been getting better as the season progresses and hopes to keep going against Linton. The Southern Indiana team has an imI pressive record and will rule favorite ! over the local club. Unless further games are added , Broad Ripple closes its sef son | against Westfield. The suburban | team has not been able to get very j far on the grid. Injuries have hurt j the team, which has little reserve I strength owing to small enrollment.

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SINGING BLUES AT HARVARD •Grid Famine’ at Cambridge Causes Comment-Class of Material Declines. Bn United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 10.—Tiger , teeth have stripped Harvard of her last vestige of gridiron prowess, and even the Harvard newspaper, the Crimson, admitted today that the outlook was for two more defeats at the hands of Brown and Y'ale. After the Holy Cross and Dartmouth had trounced the Cambridge eleven, Harvard was confident she could stage a come-back and harbored the hope she would yet defeat Yale, thus ending the season as gloriously as though she had won every game. r.ast Saturdays Waterloo, however, has resulted in a radical change in the complexion of the Crimson football situation and the college newspaper laments that “a season of three victories and five defeats appears to be in store for Harvard.” Editorials in Boston newspapers treat Harvard’s collapse as an amusing incident or as something inevitable. • "Harvard is surely passing through its years of famine as far as gridiron glory goes,” the Post says. "Football supremacy Is fleeting.” In none of the newspaper comment has there been criticism of Coach Fisher of Harvard. It has been generally conceded that a hopeless lack of material rather than a dearth of coaching ability has caused the Crimson’s football slump. WESTERN lAMM* MEETS BU United Press CHICAGO, Nov. 10.—President Tierney of the Western League left’ here Monday night to attend a meeting of Western League club owners in St. Joseph, Mo. He said he did not know whether his offer to resign would be accepted.

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WABASH PLAYS IN STADIUM lllini Prepares to ‘Entertain’ Little Giants at Urbana Saturday. Bu Times Special URBANA, 111., Nov. 10.—Viewing the record of the Wabash Little Giants, the Illlnl, of course expect to defeat them here Saturday, but the locals are frank to admit that they expect a lively brush. The Crawfordßvlllians have one Big Ten scalp—Purdue’s—dangling at their belts. Against lowa the Hooslers led at the end of the first half although the Hawks managed to pile up a decisive lead In the second half. Illinois has resumed practice after a brief layoff which Coach Zuppke felt the players needed. Although the Illlnl naturally are pointing toward the Ohio State game, Zuppke sent scouts to the Wabash-Y. M. C. A. College game at Crawfordsvllle last Saturday and the Illlnl will be tutored on what they may expect. Since Zuppke always has used Red Grange against Butler, It looks as if he would need him against Wabash, a team which has tied Butler. Nobody can guarantee that "Red” will play, but It looks as If It ls better than an even chance that the "redhead” will tread the turf of the stadium field. The Illinois students are anxious to give Orange and the other seniors a glorious send-off. With no reserved seats and room for everybody, there will be thousands of fans beating It toward the stadium, especially If Saturday ls bright. RECORD BILLIARD RUN Jones Makes Twelve In One Frame In Three-Cushion Match. Neal Jones set anew meet record run of twelve In defeating Cleve Kepner in the State three-cushion billiard tourney at Cooler’s parlor Monday night by a score of 50 to 24. The match was completed In sixtyfour innings. The high run came In the twenty-sixth frame. VINEZ LOSES TO ROSEN Bu United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 10.—Although making a strong showing, Lucien Vlnez, lightweight champion of Europe, lost his first bout In this country Monday night to Charley Rosen. The Frenchman and Rosen fought a twelve-round battle.

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