Indianapolis Times, Volume 37, Number 161, Indianapolis, Marion County, 6 November 1925 — Page 26
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‘Big Red’ or ‘Big Green’? *7?iE promised some sort of a W| prediction on 'the Cornell at J Dartmouth game on Saturlay. The reason we are centering o a great extent on this battle is >ecause it looks like the out-stand-ng game in the East despite th~ act that there will be more specators at the Harvard-Princeton ettq. And, of course, there is denty of interest in other conests. Dartmouth is being made a big avorlto around Indianapolis. The ;rld followers may be wrong. We lave a hunch that Dartmouth is lomewhat over rated and Cornell iGmewhat under-rated. We have reasons as follows: Cornell, in spite of had breaks, defeated Columbia, 17 to 14. Columbia’s two touchdowns were scored on an intercepted pass and a recovered fumble. Ilad breaks gone the other way Cornell never would liave been threatened. Pease, Columbia's great back, played against Cornel) and not against Ohio State in the game won by Buckeyes, !) to 0. Dartmouth beat Brown, 14 to 0, hut did it by recovering two blocked kicks behind the goal line. The forward passes of the "Big Green” team failed. Keefer, Brown star, was injured in the first half and forced from the game. Cornell has been very much the mystery team of the East becauso of its habit of playing third rate teams. The game last Saturday against Columbia was the first real test and the "Big Red” team showed plenty of power. It is coming along. For these various reasons, when the “Big Green” and the “Big Red 1 ” elevens clash it looks like a fairly even match. However, there is a good chance for the dope to be upset again in a major battle. In rndianapolls Dartmouth is a 10 to 7 favorite. We believe, in spite of the trend of opinion, that Cornell, the “Big Red” team, has an excellent chance of defeating Dartmouth, the “Big Green” eleven.
) o ACROSS THE BOARD TODAY : ) o Well. It finally happened After ifooling around most of the summer and fall with that original SSOO, Across the Board shot It all on Thursday and today woke op broke. And the way tt happened Is enousrh to cause the most hard of heart to jtet out. his handkerchief and wipe away a few crocodile tears. We went broke by the marfrln of n horse's nose. 11l an effort to iret back into the running a SSO win parlay was played on Cyclops and Blc Blaze on Thursday. Cyclops won at. odds of 3 to 1. but Big Blaze lost by Inches. Tire combination wonld hare figured $570. Snifft Snifft Boo! Pool When a rich friend heard of our predlctament today he came to our rescue and advanced us SSOO. The condition he made was that we shoot the whole works at once. lie wanted to see some action. Begrars cannot be choosers so the entire SSOO will be nnt up today. Here's how we are coins to risk the coin: SSO across on PANDER PETE in the first at Churchill Downs: SSO across on OH SUSANNA in the fifth at Churchill: S6O win, place and showparlay on the two mentioned: SSO win on ACt IHI lATOB in the fourth at. Churclllll. That’s short and to the point. • • • , is the day that the I dopesters must put down L.*,| their opinions in black and white on Saturday’s games, or forever hold their peace. It is easier not to select the probable outcomes of the grid contests. We will choose tho harder way in a few games. There are four contests between Big Ten rivals. This is the way they look to us: lovva to defeat Wisconsin after a hard battle. Illinois to win by a fairly large score over Chicago unless the Maroons play above the form showed so far. Michigan to win by decisive margin over Northwestern. Ohio State to defeat Indiana U. by comfortable margin. * * Here’s something for the “Society for the Prohibition of Everything” to investigate. Coach Zuppke of Illinos gives his grid players green tea. Tannin, which is found in tea, must have a terrible wallop. We would like to have some of the old lady members look this up. • • • S""“ OHE of these days Minnesota is going to join the Big Ten conference. The Gophers have played only one Western Conference tfootball game this fall, which resulted in a tie with Wisconsin. Butler is the opponent on Saturday. The Swedes have something to think about in the last two games of the season when lowa and Michigan are met. * • * Red Grange will find the going much tougher against Chicago, 'reams that have had some experience with the flash devise means of stopping his sensational dashes. Don’t expect too much of him this week. * * * If the latest reports from lowa are true and ICutsch will not be able to play against Wisconsin because of injuries sustained in practice, the Badgers have an outI side chance to spoil the Howkeye title hopes. * • * A rodeo was held last summer in Grant Park stadium, Chicago. If there are any lassoes lying around which the wild west performers forgot to take with them Northwestern had better gather them up for use on Friedman, Molenda and Oosferbaan of Michigan Saturday. • * * SWO midgets will direct the attack of the opposing elevens when Franklin and Purdue clash at Lafayette on Saturday. Chapin of the Baptists never strained any weighing machines when he stepped on the scales. The huge youth tips the beam at around 125 pounds. Smiley of the Boilermakers pushes the diat up around 143 pounds.
LEADING GAMES FOR HOOSIER TEAMS SATURDAY OUT OF STATE
69,000 TO SEE BIG FEATURE Chicago-lllinois Battle, With Grange Performing, Holds Mid-West Interest. Bu United Press CHICAGO, Nov. 6.—The IllinlosChicago game at Urbana, Saturday, will draw the biggest crowd and most Interest of any gridiron contest in the Mid-West. Red Grange, Who hit his stride in the Penna game last week, is largely responsible for the widespread interest in the game at Urbana. Fans realize this is Red’s last year of collegiate competition and the season is rapidly drawing toward its close. As many as can I get into the huge stadium will be j there. 19 Special Trains Extra bleachers seating 2,000 spectators have been erected, bringing the total attendance Saturday to 611,000. Nineteen special trains will be run from Chicago. Illinois has been beaten by lowa and Michigan and Chicago was tied by Ohio State, which means unless Michigan and lowa are unexpectedly defeated before the end of the season, Saturday's game at Urbana. will not affect first place in the con ference standing. There are three other games Saturday 'between Big Ten rivals, two of which will come close to the Illinois-Chieago game in general interest. Coach Burt Ir.gwersen’s Hawkeyes, with victories over Illinois and Ohio State to their credit, meet Wisconsin at lowa City. The Badgers have been one of the disappointments of the season unless they show marked improvement lowa’s slate should remain clean. Wolverines at Chicago Michigan’s powerful scoring machine, one of the greatest teams in the country, will draw a full house to the Grant t’ark stadium in Chicago, where it clashes with Northwestern’s Wild Cats. Unless the Wolverines go into the game with too much confidence, they should pile up another good score and increase their string of conference wins to four. “Moon” Baker may be In the Northwestern back field, but one ankle is still weak and he probably will see only part time service. Ohio State and Indiana meet at Columbus. Both teams have been defeated. The other Big Ten teams meet non-conference, Minnesota taking on Butler at Minneapolis and Purdue clashing with Franklin at I.a.fayctte. CORNELL SQUAD READY Every Regular in Shape for Dartmouth on Saturday. Bu Times Special ITHACA. N. Y., Nov. 6. —With red banners flying, Cornell’s undefeated football team started for Hanover Thursday, where an equally undefeated Dartmouth team is pawing up the dirt in anticipation of- Saturday’s fray. Coach Gil Dobie got his charges away with every regular Intact, Fred Wester, the flashy quarter hack, having recovered from a severe cold.
Local H. S. Football
TODAY South Side of Ft. Wayne vs. Tech, at Tech field (2:30). Wiley of Terre Haute vs. Manual, at Irwin field (2). Shortridge vs. Noblesville, at Noblesville. SATURDAY Jasper Colle.ge vs. Cathedral, at Washington Park. Manual vs. Boys’ Prep, at Prep field.
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Mainstays of Boys’ Prep Grid Line
Left to right: Fulton, guard; Craig, guard; Adams, tackle; Karlin, tackle.
FOR TURNERS Seven Boxers Named to Enter Amateur Show. Matchmaker Arthur Paetz, who is arranging the card for the amateur boxing show planned by the South Side Turners next Wednesday night, today announced the names of the Turner boxers entered in the bouts. They are Harold Holle, 126 pounds. Cecil Hurt, 147. Osey West, 170; Elmer Howard, 170; Bill Reilly, 112; Carl Antrobus, 112 and Hugh MeFall, 147. Holle has been matched with Bill Walters, from the Bud Taylor gymnasium at Terre Haute and the others will be paired with suitable opponents. An opponent is being sought for Charles Sconce, 160 pounds, of the Fairbanks-Morse Club, and as local boys in that class do not seem overanxious to mix it with the F.-M. k. o. specialist, the Taylor gym may be called on for an adversary. 2-EVESLE RACE Boys’ Club Event Nov. 11 on West Side. A two-mile run to be held on the west side has been announced by Boys’ Club directors. It will be staged Armistice day, Wednesday, Nov. 11. and will bo open to all Indianapolis boys (amateurs) under 17 years of age. Prizes will be awarded for first, second and 'third places. The event will start at 2:30 p. m. at the Lauter Memorial Club, 1309 W. Market St. Course of the event follows: Out White River Blvd. to W. Michigan, east on Michigan to Limestone, south on Limestone to New York, west on New York to the boulevard, south on boulevard to the club building. • Youths of the city desiring to enter the race are requested to phone Belmont 3641.
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mHE Boys’ Prep School, where every member of the upper or high school classes except the manager and assistant manager is on the football squad, will clash with Manual Training High School on Prep field Saturday afternoon. Prep has won three and lost three games this season, having lost last Saturday to Westfield High School and the week before to Shortridge. After Saturday’s game the schedule for Prep Is open and Coach Dame Is negotiating for games for Nov. 14 and Nov. 21, to finish the season. Frank Lewis. Prep’s captain and right end, and Lange, husky back, are recovering from injuries and will be in the line-up against the south side high school Saturday. •Prep field is located on W. Riverside Dr. _ GEORGE BURNS RELEASED Major I-ieaguo Veterau Wants Job as Minor League Boss. Bu United Press PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 6.—After fifteen years' service in the National League, George Burns, former New York and Cincinnati outfielder, was given his unconditional release by the Phillies. He wants a job as a minor league manager.
Saturday Grid Guesses
By Fuller Dope Nine out of twelve. Not so bad! That was the outcome of my first batch of selections on the twelve big games of last Saturday, Oct. 31. "Red” Grange killed off Penn's chances to beat Illinois. Yale, after going along on even terms with the Army for three periods, broke through In the final to a 28 to 7 victory. Drake beat Kansas, 6 to 0. Here is how the 12 big games look to me for Saturday: Teams. Flare. Choice. Oilds. Alabama vs. Kentucky Birmingham Alabama ....10-7 California vs. Washington State Berkeley California ...10-7 Dartmouth vs. Cornell Ifano-cr 'Cornell 1-1 Drake vs. Nebraska Des Moines Nebraska . 1..10-9 Illinois vs. Chicago Urbana Illinois 1-1 Icwa vs. Wisconsin lowa City lowa 5-4 Ohio State vs. Indiana Columbus Ohio State 5-4 Pittsburgh vs. W. and J Pittsburgh W. and J 10-7 Penn State vs. Notre Dame State College Notre Dame. .10-7 Princeton vs. Harvard Princeton Princeton ...10-9 Vanderbilt vs. Georgia Tech Nashville Georgia Tech. .5-4 Washington vs. Stanford Seattle Stanford 10-9
1926 GAMES Chicago and Illinois on Penna Grid Card Again. Bu United Press PHILADELPHIA. Nov. 6.—Chicago and Illinois have places again on the Pennsylvania football schedple for 1926 which is to be presented for approval of the faculty committee. The Chicago game is booked for Oct. 16 at Philadelphia and the Illinois game Oct. 30 at Urbana, in 1926. Columbia is back on the schedule for Nov. 13 at Philadelphia. HERE’S ANOTHER BOUT Now It’s Stribling Against Tunney in N. Y. Show. Bu United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 6.—Young Stribling. Georgia light heavyweight, will be offered a bout with Gene Tunney. New l'ork heavyweight, in the main event of the Christmas fund benefit at Madison Square Garden in December if the boxing commission will suspend the six-round minor rule. Stribling will be of age on Dec. 26. after which the rules will permit him to fight more than six rounds.
N. D. Invades East Again, Butler I Performs in North and Indiana Visits Buckeyes’ Camp. The most interesting games participated in by State college football teams this Saturday will be played away from home. Notre Dame makes its fourth long Irip in succession when it travels cast to Sta+e College, Pa., to meet Penn State. It is homecoming day for the eastern institution. All seats for the contest are sold.
Indiana University plays Its third Big Ten game with Ohio State as the opponent at Columbus, Ohio. I. U. has lost its previous two Western Conference battles, to Michigan and Northwestern, and wants a victory badly. The Crimson is showing signs of life, but tho Buckeyes reign favorites. - ’ 32 in Butler Squad Butler made the long trip to Minnesota this week-end with the intention of doing better against the Gophers than Wabash. The Little Giants were beaten, 32 to 6. Coach Page took along thirty-two mi n, nnd left Thursday so as to have a workout on the Minnesota gridiron, this afternoon. Rose Poiy is at Louisville in another out-of-State game. Probably the best of the Hoosier games is Franklin at Purdue. The Boilermakers hope to he able to hold something in reserve for Northwestern on the following Saturday and Indiana on Nov. 21. It is “Dads’ day” at Purdue nnd special features will be Included along with the grid conflict. Other Stafc. Contests Other State contests Include Chicago “Y” at Wabash, Earlham at Oakland City. State Normal at Muncie< Normal, Central Normal at Manchester and Vincennes at Merom. Here in Indianapolis Culver will play Butler freshmen at Irwin Field. The military institution is to send its entire corps of cadets to the game. The youths always display plenty of pep and make a fine showing with their nifty outfits and loyal rooting. The (Tulver special train is due to arrive at 11 a. m. Saturday. The cadets will parade to the Claypool. where they will have lunch. The train then will carry the visitors to Irwin field and will wait on a siding until the contest Is over. Concert and Drill The Culver hand is to give a concert before the game and between halves. The Cadets will stage a drill on the field. A dinner at the Claypool and a theater party at Keith’?, ends up the gala day. All Boy Scouts of Indianapolis and Army oi,leers from Ft. Harrison will be guests of Butler at the game. At the University Heights field here Indiana Central takes on Hanover. It is quite an undertaking Tor the local eleven which under the able leadership of Athletic Director George has been put on the sports map. HARVARD HOPES HIGH Bu Times Special NEW YORK, Nov. 6.—En route to Princeton to bait the Tiger in its lair, Harvard's football squad spent Thursday night in New York. Still ringing in the players’ ears were echoes of an enthusiastic send-off at Cambridge, where it seemed as if the e;itire university had turned out to give the team a farewell cheer. Hopeless as Harvard’s quest may appear to some, Coach Bob Fisher and Captain Cheek were fairly spluttering with enthusiasm over what they will do to Princeton on Saturday.
Saturday Radio Grid Card
('opuriuht. 1925. bu United Press KKRU. Columbia. Mo.—Washington vs. Missouri. VVBZ. Spring-field. WCAE. Pittsburgh, WCAP Washington; WEAK. Now York' WKI. Philadelphia: WGK Rtiffaio; WHY. ' Schmoctady: \\ .J AK. Providence: WJZ. Now York; WSAI, Cincinnati: WTAG. i Worchost. r; WTIC. Hartford—Harvard vs. j Princeton. WCCO. Minnoapolls-St. Paul—Minnesota vs. Butler. WON. Chicago—Chicago vs. Illinois. WIP, Ph'ladclpma—Penna vs. Haverford. WJR, Detroit—St. Louis vs. Detroit. WSM Nashville—Vanderbilt vs. Georgia Tech. , WSUI. lowa City—lowa vs. Wisconsin. PENNSY PARK Strong Soldier Team to Mix With J. J. C.s. When the Ft. Harrison football team meets the J. J. C. eleven at Pennsy Park Sunday, fans will find a former Hoosier grid star playing end for the soldiers. Irwin, who was a pigskin luminary at De Pauw, and who last season performed with the Ferndales, is now a lieutenant stationed at the fort, and. along with two other officers, is helping the post team make a fine record this season. Lieutenant Johnson, a West Pointer, is quarter hack, and Captain Robinson, formerly of Alabama Polytechnic, is playing full hack. Two weeks ago the J. J. C.s defeated the Battery B team from Ft. Harrison so decisi%-ely they earned the chance to meet the regular post eleven. The east enders again will be outweighed, as the Army outfit averages 175 pounds. Sunday's game will start at 2:30. CROSS-COUNTRY RUN Bu Times Special LAFAYETTE, Tnd., Nov. 6. Coach Eddie O’Conner’s Purdue cross-country team will take part in its third long distance meeting of the year here, Saturday morning, when it opposes the Indiana “U” harriers. The meet is to start at 11 o’clock and will lie run over the regulation Big Ten course at Purdue.
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40-PLAY IDEA PUT TO TEST Grid Rules Committee to View ‘Experiment Game’ by Brown and Boston. tin f nltcd Press NEW YORK, Nov. 6.—Football modernists will put the game through tho most interesting experiment Saturday at Providence that has been tried since conservatives were forced to accept tho forward jiass. Brown University and Roston University have been persuaded by a small group of gridiron radicals to measure their game by a number of plays instead of timing the periods by the tick of a watch. The prii>cipal advocate of the new plan is Harry Coffin, a Harvard man from Boston, who failed to interest any of the Big Three roaches. Brown, however, is willing to play any one and try anything once and Boston officials agreed to turn tho game into a laboratory test. Several prominent members of the rules committee and a number of first ranking roaches, who can get away from their teams, will watch the experiment. The idea is this; Each ner'od wil 1 be restricted to forty p'nyn and they are to count conscoutively, except in caere where a foul hoa been committed liy the itrfrndlmr team neeeaaltatinr the Imposition of a penalty For 1 Instance. If n play is ended rmek imnm i the defending loam vm off-side, tlio play will not count against the foam in ponsess'on of tlie ball If. after four plays the ba'l goes to the other sliio on downs, the i play wll be number five play and tho tab- | ulation continued. i The same rules will prevail as under the watch system of timing. At the start of each period the score board will register ‘‘4o plays to | go” and then ”39,” “38" and so for h until 40 plays have been made. The period ends then and the score at that time is recorded. Advocates of tlie new system believe. although there are arguments against it. that the game will be speeded up, because there will be no advantage to a team stalling in the late part of the game by throwing forward passes wildly and promiscuously.
BUTLERvs. MINN. ON THE GRID GRAPH Tomlinson Hall 2 P. M. Sat., Nov. 7