Indianapolis Times, Volume 37, Number 154, Indianapolis, Marion County, 28 October 1925 — Page 15

WEDNESDAY, OCT. 28, 1925

SWIM TIRRIN' the DOPE By VEDDER GARD

mT takes plenty of “guts” to travel out-of-town for independent football games in some of the surrounding towns. We are not talking now of the high class pro grid, but of the “bush” brand of ball. One local team last Sunday, after a battle in which rules were forgotten, had to get -the sheriff to collect the money due as specified on a signed contract. It is a rough and ready type of game. If the visitors appear to be getting the better of the argument, then the battle gets down to the primitive survival of the fittest. We do not say that this is always the case, but in many instances it is only too true. Football is so close to fighting that youths with no discipline, urged on by a partisan crowd, forget regulations and sportsmanship in an overwhelming desire to master, in any fashion, the opponents who are getting the upper hand. It is primeval stuff, this/ football, and unrestrained youth, ever impatient of authority of any sort, has too thin a veneer of civilization to withstand the temptation of the blood urge on the white-chalked field. . oh, don’t be alarmed. Nothing I very serious ever happens. A few battered noses, a black eye or two, several bruises here and there — that’s all. The husky yourig citizens who plaj( are usually able to withstand the physical effects of such a "game.” It may not b© the best training' to give them e -ense of fair play. But It probably is not as much their fault as those who stand around on the sidelines. There seems to be no special remedy. It is up to individual communities, coaches and players. The antidote may be found in organized sport. High school, ! college and the best “pro” football are being conducted more and more in the proper spirit. It is getting to be a rare thing for a team or player knowingly to violate the rules. Those who are opponents of Interscholastic and intercollegiate sport might think over the following: Which would you rather have —sport as It is conducted now. well supervised and coached —or sport carried on in haphazard, fashion with no one in particular responsible? (Major Griffith, Big Ten athletic commissioner, put forth this last thought in a speech here last week to the I. H. S. A. A.) * * * D ; ACROSS THE BOARD TODAY : 0... ° Well. Tuesday was a rood and bod day. but “more aooder” than “badder.” | Laurel treated us all right when Duettiste with seeopd and Smooth Ice won. The two were hooked up in a $lO wln-snd-place parlay, and the place end went over at a Rood price. What a sweet one if Duettlste could have stepped over the hurdles a little faster! Our plunge on Captain Hal was justified, but the price was only 85 cents on the dollar on the *SO win wager. The Captain is promoted to Colonel In our estimation. Now to the sadder part of the tale. Just David was out of the money and Bassorah was third. The latter paid more than even money to show. We had the horse only to w-ln and place. Tears, idle tears. Counting up our winning*. we find the bank roll r.t $325.50. We sorta hate to toss our coin around down at Churchill Downs today, but then we might light on one that will drift In with the snow. This cold weather has chilled ns. We will play BROTH ERL V LOVE In the third, SHAMPOO in the fourth and’PETIE In the seventh —all of ’em *2 win, place and show. This is parlay day. Over at Fairmount JATTNEBAR. NEAT GIRL ami STONEWALL JACKSON (a good Democrat) will be hooked up in a $5 across-the-board combination. At Empire, BLIND PLAY and LUCKY PLAY will get the sort of investment. At Lauretf, WISE COUNSELLOR and SUN RAJAH ore the selections—s3, win, place and show parlay. There’s plenty of action for you on a bad day with nothing much else to do. • * * Mf —“SRS. MALAPROP was down town early' today and we V__J hardly recognized the old lady with her ear-muffs on. Her unlike the modern species, I usually are exposed to the ele- ' merits, but the elements won the argument today. We tried to make a wise crack and said that with the ground covered with snow this was a good day fpr the Dog Derby. The dear old soul seemed rather nonplussed and told us she had lived many years and had seen many strange sights including straw hats on horses, but had never noticed a member of the cayenne tribe expired in a head covering of any conscription except a nozzle. Having stepped out on the wrong foot we tried to get a bit fresh and asked If she was in the market for red flannels. She froze us with a glance, much colder than the weather, and flounced down the street with the parting shot that she had occasionally purchased red peppers at the marktet, but usually went to the department stores for Intimidate wearing apparent. We, no doubt, made the old lady very angry. It is up to us to get on her good side again, hut as she says herself,” I’m hard to specify once I get my dandruff up.” • * * “CAPITAL” PUNISHMENT On the sport page daily all the dope fan sees Are the Y. M. I.s and the J. J. C.s, .The H. A. C.s and the S. S. TANARUS. ■ And “Y” track runners in their B. V. D.s. Y. M. H. A sand the I. A. C.s Cast their colors to the passing: breeze: The Y. P. C.s and A. A. U.s Tell you When they win or lose. Just capital letters and periods small Are fighting the battles of sport this fall. Spell out your names, old timers, please, Or ail the fans will get D. T.s. —E. Me. * • • GREAT ENDS It is said that Notre Dame misses the great ends of previous years. We can see nothing the matter with the Notre Dame end of the Army game gate receipts or Minnesota, either, for that matter. More than 100,000 fans went • through the turnstiles at the two contests. Some ends, we’d say, at that pair of games.

ARMY-YALE GAME LOOMS AS CHIEF STRUGGLE FOR THIS WEEK

Two Great Teams Clash at New V Haven When Cadets and Blue Tangle in Bowl. r Bn Timex Special ' • WEST POINT, NEW YORK, Oct. 28.—The Army Mule has started its final drive to meet the Yale Bulldog Saturday in the Yale Bowl at New Haven. Army had rather an easy time defeating St. Louis Saturday. Although the final score was only 19 to 0, it must be remembered that not ONE of Army’s first string line—from tackle to tackle—started the game.

Coach McEwan held regular heavy practice Monday and Tuesday, owing to the fact not all the first team got a chance to work out in the game Saturday against St. Louis. Gilbreth, who was forced out of action recently with badly torn shoulder ligaments, was expected to practice today. McEwan says he believes Gilbreth will be ready for Yale. If not, the Army certainly will lose the services of one of their best backs. All eyes are now turned toward Yale, and this year the Army seems likely to come through.-The smoothrunning team that, ran so roughshod over Notre Dame was again in evidence, though for brief periods, against St. Louis last Saturday. The only question left for McEwan and the other coaches Is to bring the team along to the proper edge by Saturday. ’ Thursday will be ta-pering-off day, and a short signal session will be held in the bowl Friday afternoon. The Army hasn’t beaten Yale since 1911, when the Soldiers won by a score of 6 to 0. The following year Yale turned the tables by the same score. Relations were then discontinued until 1921. The last four games resulted in two ties and two defeats for the Army. Vhis year the situation seems to

ALONG THE SIDELINES

AT INDIANA BLOOMINGTON. Inch, Oct. 28.—Indiana is exeeptod to rely largely on line plays when it meets Northwestern Saturday. The locals are being drilled in defense of the aerial tactics of Northwestern. AT PURDUE LAFAYETTE. Ind„ Oct. 28. —A varied attack is being drilled into the Purdue team In preparation for the Chicago game Saturday. Open field running and passing will probably feature the Purdue attack. Purdue will bo handicapped by the loss of Dode Gladder* and Captain Harmeson, lull back and half back, respectively. AT NOTRE DAME SOUTH BEND. Ind.. Oct. 28—-Coach Knute Rochne Is using the same line-up against Georgia Tech as was used in the Minnesota game last week. The freshmen. using Tech plays gained consistently for a while, but the rush was soon stopped. All of the regulars, except John McMullen and Joe Kigali, are in good AT WISCONSIN MADISON. Wis., Oct. 28.—Snow continues to keep the Badgers, from practicing outdoors and Coach Little is.using the indoor field. All varsity men arc in good condition for the Minnesota same. , AT ILLINOIS URBANA. 111.. Oct. 28.—Fear is felt here that the Illlni forward line may not be able to withstand the sledgehammer attack of the Pennsylvania backs in the game Saturday. At least five hundred rooters are expected to accompany the team to Pennsylvania. AT lOWA lOWA CITY. lowa. Oot. 21.—Emphasis is being laid on the defensive work of the guards in skull practices of lowa. I our inches of heavy wet snow forced the team indoorß Tuesday. AT MINNESOTA MINNEAPOLIS, Minn.. Oct. 28.—Defensive work is the order in the Minnesota camp this week. Die Badgers tnay expect to face the same team Saturday that put up the galiaut fight against Notre Dame laht week. _ AT MICHIGAN ANN ARBOR. Mich.. Oct. 28.—Michigan is hard at work preparing for the Navy game Saturday. The field is in better shape than it has been for the last week, and the gridders are taking advantage of it to engage in hard scrimmages. AT OHIO STATE COLUMBUS. Ohio, Oct. 28.—Ohio State is hard at w-ork in preparation for the Wooster game Saturday. Coach Wilce is anxious to prevent a repetition of last year's occurence when the Wooster team held the Buckeye to a 7-to-7 tie. AT CHICAGO CHICAGO, Oct. 28. —Coach Stagg Is lashing the Maroon* through hard work, and in an effort to let the team know he means business has taken Sana Htbben, three.-year regular from the line. and substituted Paul Lewis, a sophomore. He is also again experimenting with Groenbaum at center in preparation for the Purdue game Saturday. AT NORTHWESTERN EVANSTON m.. Oct.- 28.—Coach Thistleth waite’s main task at Northwestern this week is the developing of a pair of ends to take the places of Seidel and Fisher, regulars injured in the Tulane game. Bovik and Smith look like the two ends for Saturday The Freshmen using Indiana plays have been able to do little.

Fuller Dope Gives You Slant at His Guesses

EULLER DOPE, football critic of mystery, after spending six weeks giving the many elevens the once over, is now prepared to announce his forecast on some of this week’s leading games as he sees them. Before reaching a final decision. Fuller Dope carefully weighs the information wired him by 200 carefully selected gridiron scouts. Past performances of the contending teams also receive serious consideration in the handicapping of the entries. Fuller Dope takes great pride in thd fact that he picks no more winners than any of the other so-called expert football handlcappers. He also wants you to bear in mind that his second guess is invariably better than the first. . Here is how he picks ’em in the following dozen big games scheduled for Oct. 31: ...

TEAMS Brown vs. Dartmouth Chicago vs. Purdue Cornell vs. Columbia Georgia Tech vs. Notre Dame Hoiv Cross vs. ltucknell Michigan vs. Navy Nebraska vs. Oklahoma Pennsylvania vs. Illinois Yale vs. Army Syracuse vs. Penn State Alabama Poly vs. Tulane Kansu vs. Drake

No Second Butler and Wabash Conflict.

• Butler and "Wabash athletic authorities are unaware of a “movement” to have another football game played between the two colleges, Thanksgiving day, therefore it can be taken for granted no second contest will be held. Athletic Director Page, Butler, said today that the rumor had no official foundation and Athletic Director Scholler, Wabash, made a similar announcement. Colleges are not in the habit of meeting on the gridiron twice in one season despite the lure of gato receipts. Schedules are arranged ijt advance and seldom are changed or additional games carded. Butler and De Pauw played a tie contest and Butler and Wabash the same. Wabash plays De Pauw, Nov. 21. If there is a "superiority dispute” to be argued among the three rivals, there will be a chance for a comparative score decision after t K Wabaah-De Pauw clash.

be In better favor for the Army, although there is no doubt the Yale team, with all Its veterans, will prove to be the hardest team, probably, that the Army will face this year. Certainly it will be stronger than Notre Dame, and in much better physical shape than when it faced Penn. It probably will be on© of the finest games of the season.

RODEO J3LAYS Wabash Hopes to Stop Kutsch, lowa Flash. Till Timex Special CRAWFORDSVILLE, Ind., Oct. 28. —“Rodeo Plays,” as they are dubbed by the Wabash varsity, were shown to the Little Giant eleven at practice today, as Coaches Vaughan and Reese explained some of the new formations devised to slow up the touchdown propensities of “Cowboy” Nick Kutsch, the lowa sensation. Although they will be heavily outweighed in the game with the powerful lowa team Saturday, the Little Giants are encouraged by the showing made by the light Scarlet forward wall against Butler last week. Coach Vaughan announced no heavy workouts would be held before the Hawkeye game. The entire squad emerged from the Butler game in good shape, and Robinson and Weber, 'varsity ends who were unable to play against the Bulldogs, have recovereed from injuries and will be ready to start in Saturday’s game. The team leaves for lowa Fridays noon.

American Sportsman Is Richer by $250,000

Bu United Press LONDON, Oct. 28.—A. K. Mar comber, American sportsman, became richer by $250,000 today when his Masked Marvel won the classic ‘Cambridgeshire stakes this afternoon. Ponsasinorum was second and Blue Pete was third. Macomber’s Forseti won the Ceasarwttch stakes a fortnight ago, and bookmakers had laid him odds of 500 to 1 that both his horses would not win in the two big races of the fail season. He wagered 100 pounds at those odds. THREE-CUSHION RESULTS Ben Klein pulled a surprise Tuesday night in the State three-cushion billiard tourney by defeating Harry Cooler, 50 to 47, at the Cooler parlors. Klein went oift in ninetynine innings. Vic Shaxts defeated Kepner in an afternoon match, 50 to 36, in eighty-five frames. Neal Jones and Lee O’Connor play tonight.

A. A.-Coast Series

STANDING Won. Lost. San Francisco 4 Louisville " 4 Note —Five victories decide series. GAME OF TUESDAY At San Francisco — San Francisco .. 103 000 140— 916 3 Louisville .... 001 050 050—11 11 3 . Batteries —Williams. Griffin. MeWeeney. brockett. Mitchell ana Yelle. Ritchie; Deberry Koob. d&'iikinson and Meyer.

FAVORITE ODDS Dartmouth 10-6 Chicago 2-1 Cornell 5-1 Notre Dame 5-4 Holy Cross 10-7 Tossup 1-1 Nebraska 10-0 Pennsylvania *lO-7 Army 10-0 Syracuse 10-0 Tulane 10-7 . Kansas 5-4

n.ACK Providence Chicngo New York Atlanta Worcester Ann Arbor Lincoln Philadelphia New Haven Syracuse Montgomery Lawrence

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THE LNDLANAFOLiS TIMES

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OOCAL dog pound deputies don’t seem to stay on the job long. Resignations occur frequently and new deputies are appointed.-' Perhaps they get fleas. Mantissa, Colo., is where Jack Dempsey was a residenter once. The new high school there is going to be named after Jack. He won’t know what it’s ail about. ANY ATHLETE WILL TELL YOU THERE 18 A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RUNNING AROUND ON WEEK ENDS AND RUNNING AROUND THE WEAK ENDS IN FOOTBALL. The Sheik of Syracuse writes in to announce he has discovered what is wrong with Red Grange... ."Every time he starts a run some old customer in the stands yells ‘lce,’ ” explains the Sheik. | INE look at Mr. O’Goofty’s I ®>’ es was P ro °f enough he I j had a terrible night ”1 feel so Idw,” he moaned, ”1 couM walk under a coat of paint with a silk hat on.” In ofie respect at least Pati! Berlenbach is the most remarkable man in the world He has proved it is possible for a wTestler to reform. Out in ’Frisco they want to close the golf links on election days The slogan probably is “Get out the niblick vote.” However, the golf widows of the land would welcome any sort of campaign, political or otherwise, that would get the males out of the nineteenth hole by Christmas. SHE 1925 worlds series threatens to become an all-winter subject of contention. Last Saturday night a heated football discussion over the Wabash-Butler tie game wound up In a “terrific” argument over the final PittsburghWasliington diamond contest. The world’s series hang-over moved Jack Williams, local fan, to pen the following, with apologies, of course, ta “Jim” Riley: You kin all laugh and holler, m Joke on' have yer fujn. En holler, “Pitt*liurgh town’s a better bunt 'en jnone!” Es Washington suits yon better, w‘y, ’at’* where you’d oughter be. But Just now old lndiauapolia is good enough fer me. Carnegie Tech has established a professorship in plumbing, heating and ventilating. . . . Very smart idea. , . . Much good football talent among plumbers. . . . Looks as though the way is being paveh for local Joe Canning, plumber-gridder, to become a professor in his declining years. ALL VOTE FOR HORNSBY National Leaguers Regard Rogers As Best Hitter in Pinch. Bu United Press NEW YORK, Octr 28.—National League players, answering a questionnaire, voted overwhelmingly in favor of Rogers Hornsby of the Cardinals as the league's most dangerous batter in a pinch.

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CRASH PINS Fairbanks-Morse Gets 1,121 Single Game Score. Fairbanks-Mcrs© five in the Commercial Bowling League registered the highest individual score of the season, Tuesday night, at the Recreation alleys, when a count of 1,121 was reached in the first game with the Crescent Papers. Pauley got 231, Schott, 180. Whipple, 235; Ilewes, 230 and Snyder, anchor man, cracked the maples for 245. Pauley crashed through for 212 In the second game, but dropped to 185 in the final. Whipple went high to 266 in his second effort, but weakened and got only 159 in the third game. Schott and Snyder got into the double century class in their third game. The Fairbanks-Morse made a clean yweep of the night’s match with the Crescents.

BRIGHTWOOD CHALLENGE Football Team Wants Game With Femdales or Southpaws. Brightwoood Premiers have issued a challenge to the Ferndales or Southpaws for an intra-city football game. The have victories over .Belmonts and J. J. C.s. Coach Green has added new players and has his strongest team of Che season in the field. The Brightwoods play at Bloomington Nov. 8. Practice is held Wednesday and Friday nights. For games address Paul Hulse, 2331 Station St., or call Webster 6927.

Basketball Notes

The Fletcher American Athletic Club won its initial basketball fame of the season Tuesday night by defeating the Memorial Whirlwinds. 23-22 For game* with winners call K. Gross. Webster 6656. The Postal Telegraph basketball team wishes to schedule a practice game for some night this week with w, team having access to a gym. The College Cubs are putting a strong basketball team in the field this season and are really to book games with the best city and State teams. The Cubs havo all of last year’s team, including Payne, Lieh, Twigg, Evans and Sen bun* and three new players. Todd Wi.bur, E. Rea and R. Hedges. For games address Harlan Payne. 2032 College Ave.. or call Harrison 1597 after 5:30 p. m. The basketball teams of the Laqter A. C. will start practice next MoniTTty night. The following players are to report: F. Mclntire. C. Mclntire. L. Cherry. W. Cherry- A. Ferree. C. Ferre*. Myers. Sweeney. Hoss. Walter*. Woodson. Higgs. Sheets. Baugh. Riley. P. Bailey. T. Bailey. Rowe. Bradley and Fine For games address A. Caldwell. 1308 W. Court St. The Tuxedo Maroons, who have had baseball and football teams in the pask will have a basketball club this season. An organization meeting will be held tonight at 6130 Ellenberger Pkwy. All members b© on hand at 7 p. m.

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GRIDIRON STRATEGY

Defensive Play of Tackle By Ed Me Gin ley, Pennsylvania, All-America Tackle, 1924. — N defensive play, a Pennsylvania tackle covers his territory Oat all times. One cardinal principle is that he must never run behind his own line of scrimmage in order to stop a play in the opposite side. , In other words, a tackle should never cut back of his own line of scrimmage first. If he can stop a play on the opposite side he must do it by following round be-hind. This is a basic principle of tackle play to which there is absolutely no exception. For a tackle to pass behind his own line of scrimmage in an effort to stop- a ay on the opposite side means that he would thus weaken his own side and create an opening that might prove costly. ' An alert quarter back would be quick to take advantage of such tactics on the part of a tackle, by running a reverse play or a delayed thrust right through the opening caused by the desire of the tackle to cover too much ground. A tackle should be heavy and strong enough to be a tower of strength on defense. I am convinced that the strongest play of most teams i.s their off-tackle play. I believe there is more men that come directly at the tackle on this play than in any other play in football. , An off-tackle play is usually not overly deceptive but is always mighty powerful. The man with the ball invariably runs directly at the tackle with the other three men of tho back field leading him. A tackle should also work with his end in rusdiing the passer and in blocking kicks. By working together I mean Just this: A half back of the offensive team will have the job of stopping both the tackle and the end. Obviously he will have an easy time if the tackle and end charge him together. So the defensive tackle and end must be prepared to charge him with some distance betweon them. In this way the offensive half hack can only block one man, giving the other a chance to get through and hurry the kick or block it or hurry the passer or prevent his making th© pass. I used to charge In close, and go up the alley, as we say In football, while the end went wide. This forced the offensive half hack to decide which one of us he w-anted to stop, for it was impossible for him to get both of us.

QrjdQwz QUESTIONS 1. When ball i kicked ont of homnds on a punt which one of the official* determines the point at which the ball left (be field? 2. Player commits a foul when neither Hide i* in possession of the hall, then later rccoTers the ball after the official has stopped play. What happens? 3. What is considered clipping by the officials in charge of the game? ANSWERS 1. The head llnrsm-tn shall mark the point where the ball roes out ol bound* after being punted I lie referee in starting play shall be so guided. 2. Whn player commits a foul with neither side in nosseHsion of the ball. It goes to the offended side at the point where the foul was made. 3. Throwing the body from behind across the leg or legs (below- the knees) of a player not carrying the ball, is the wording of the rule that governs clipping The penalty is loss of twenty-five varus from the spot of foul. BUD VICTOR Taylor Gets Verdict Over Coast Battler. Bu United Press _ . _ . LOS ANGELES, Col., Oct. 28. Bud Taylor, Terre Haute bantam, won a 10-round decision from "Doc" Schnell of Tacoma here Tuesday night. Taylor had the better of the scrap most of the way. H. 8. Net Card Bu Times Special . _ . „„ COLUMBIA CITY, Ind., Oct. 28. The schedule of the Columbia City basketball team, just completed, includes contests with Warsaw, Albion, Wolf Lake, Kendalville, Huntington, Decatur, Plymouth, Churubusco, South Whitley, North Manchester ind Washington Center.

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FAVOR CHUCK Wiggins Credited With Ringside Verdict Over Flowers. Bu United Press CHICAGO, Oct. 28.—A check-up late today of newspaper opinions on the Chuck Wiggins-Tiger Flowers feature bout at East Chicago, Tuesday night, swung the unofficial ringside verdict to th.© Hoosier scrapper. Minority opinions called th© affair a draw. Wiggins carried the fight to the "Georgia Deacon” and was better at infighting. Flowers used a left hook to the face to advantage. The men fought at catch weights, Wiggins having the advantage in poundage. There was much action in the encounter. • I TEST FOR JARVIS Bu United Press NEW YORK, Oct. 28.—Ernie Jarvis, Great Britain's fistic midget, gets a real test of his fitness to succeed to the flyweight crown tonight when he meets Johnny Breslin at the New York Manhattan Casino.

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ENOUGH MEETS IS VERDICT Basketball and Track State Tourneys Sufficient, Thinks I. H. S. A. A. Bil United Press LAFAYETTE, Ind., Oct. 28.—The Indiana High School Athletic Association has disapproved proposals to revive the high school relay games and the high school bttseball tourney, it learned today, “It is the feeling of the board that we havo sufficient championship events at the present time,"A. L. Trester, permanent secretary of the association, wrote N. A. Kellogg, director of athletics at Purdue University. The championship events conducted by the association at the present time Include the State basketball tourney and the State track meet, Kellogg proposed revival of the relay and baseball events. MANUAL NET CARD OUT Director Rannen Announces Schedule of Twenty Contesft. Athletic Director Bannen of Manual High School has announced the basketball schedule (or the coming season. The opening game will be at the dedication x>f the new Tipton gym Nov. 13. Twenty games are on the card. F ankfort, State champions, will be played. The schedule: Nor. 13. Tipton, there • Nov. 20. Mooresville. there: Nov. 28. Greensburg. there: Dec. 4,. West Newton, there; Deo. 5, Ben Davis, hero; Deo, 11, Frankfort, here; Dec. 12, Sevmou, here; Dec. 18. Greencaetle, h>-re; Doe. id. llushville. there; Dec. 26. Alumna, here; Jan. 1,. I.awrenoe. there; Jan. 8. Bluffton, there: Jau. 0, Bedford, there; Jan 16, Technical: Jan. 23. Centra! (Evansville), here: Jan. 20. Bhortnclge: Jh.ii. 80. Brownsburg tourney at Brownsbur*: Fob. ti, Wilev (Terre Haute), here; Feb. 13. Broad Ripple, there: Feb 10. South Side (Ft. Wayne), here: Feb. 20, Bainbildge, there. NO ACTION ON FIASCO Jersey Boxing Officiate Say Show Was Rotten, but on Tacvcl. Bu United Press NEWARK, N. J.. Oct. 28.—New Jersey officials will take no ao tion concerning the fistic fiasco in which Harry Wills stopped Floyd Johnson Monday night. “Sure, it was a rotten show hut on the level," Platt Adams, boxing solon, said.

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