Indianapolis Times, Volume 35, Number 231, Indianapolis, Marion County, 8 February 1924 — Page 12

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Chicago-Michigan Net Struggle Main Event of Week-End in Big Ten Circles

Leadership of Western Conference Race at Stake When Maroons Play Wolverines Saturday—lndiana Vs. Purple. Three Big Ten basketball games are on the bill over the week-end. but by far the most important is the Chicago-Michigan tilt at Ann Arbor. The leadership of the Western Conference race depends upon tliijs game. Michigan has won three games and is undefeated. Chicago has won four and lost one. A victory for the Maroons will put them at the top.

The only Conference contest tonight is Northwestern at Indiana. While Indiana is groaning over the loss of Nylkos, one of the scoring stars of the Big Ten, Northwestern is bemoaning the fate of four players who have felt the “wrath” of professors. Purple looses Four Players Heppes, Gericke. Itapp and MacLcnnan have been lost to the* Purple squad, which just about makes up for the withdrawal from school of Nylkos of I. U. The Northwestern line-up at the start probably will be Stegman and Kershaw, forwards; Karstens, center; Graham and Mhthews, guards. Coach Mann of T. U. has been experimenting with his team since Nyikos’ loss and may start the two former Bloomington High School stars at forward. Kogan and Sponsler. Captain Alward will get back into the game at a guard position. On Saturday night, besides the Chiuago game. Ohio State will meet lowa- at lowa City. The Hawkeyes have been pretty well “shot" by various causes and two of last year’s stars are out. Ohio the Favorite I* looks like a victory for Ohio, which has an exceptionally good team despite its defeats. Purdue and Indiana have been the main cause of ■■ tlx Buckeyes’ reverses. In the big scrap on Saturday be- ; tween Chicago and Michigan it appears ; is thouch the Maroons hold the advantage. Coach Norgren’s five has , been impressing steadily. There is no ■ doubt but that he has some excellent I material. Chicago’s decisive defeat of *Wis- j cousin came as a surjWise last week : and boosted the Windy City team's stock considerably. Purdue is much interested in the j go-Michigan outcome. The Boilermakers have a good chance at the title with only one loss charged , against them. Lambert's crew plays Michigan twice and Chicago once i more. 1 H. S. Basketball Tonight West Newton at Short ridge. Clsmial at Bloomington. New Augusta at Broad Ripple. Tech at Marion. Deaf School at Indiana Central (Freshmen). Carroll County tourney at Flora Gtbeon County tourney at Owensville. j Invitational tourney at Plainfield. Howard County tourney at Kokomo. Elkhart County tourney at Goshen. Pike County tourney. Arlington at Milroy. Dainbridge at Brownsville. Ben Davis at Southport. Center Grove at Morgantown. Columbus at Seymour. Cambridge City at Hagerstown. Central (Ft. Wav) at Warsaw. Dayton at Montmorenci. El wood at Richmond. Evansville Reitz at Garfield (Terre Haute). Eminence at Mooresville. *. Edinburg at Seottsburg. Forest at Michigantown. Fishers at Lapel. Fairmount at Noblesvtlle. Hopewell at Whiteland: Jefferson (Lafayette! at Huntington. •Jamestown at Whitestown. Kokomo at Frankfort. Knightstown at Greenfield. Kendallville at Angola. I. at Andersou. Lebanon at Franklin. Ltzton at Monrovia. Lawrence at New Bethel. Lewisville at Newcastle. Muncie at Hartford City. Michigan City at Crown Point Mishawaka at Ltgonier. Newmarket at New Ross. North Salem at Danville Oaklandon at Castleton. Pittsboro at Advance. Perry Central,at Whitestown Portland at Decatur. Pendleton at McCordsville. Spleeiacd at Rushville. Shelbyville at Newcastle. Summltville at Tipton. South Bend at South Side (Ft. Wayne). Thomtown vs. Jefferson (Frankfort) at Mulberry. Union Township at Greenwood. Vincennes at Washington. Union City at Spartansburg. Whiting at Emerson (Gary). Wiley (Terre Haute) at oranl.

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STATE CHAMPS IN SEVERE TEST AT DE PAUW TONIGHT Long Awaited Game Finally at Hand—All Tickets Sold for Contest. By Times Special GREENCASTLE, Ind., Feb. B.—'To mght at 7:30 the thistle will toot and the splendid basketball teams of De Fauw and Franklin will start, their forty minutes of strenuous activity at the big Methodist gym. The game has long been awaited and the time 5c finally at hand. With De Pauw being doped to give the State champions their hardest test this year, the contest as sumes an importance second to no other Hoosier college fray. The Tigers have been practicing behind closed.xioors, a procedure strange to Coach Ashmore. The line-up is rather doubtful in a couple of positions and no one will know until the team takes the floor tonight. The game is a complete sell-out and it is reported that tickets are being scalped at big prices. The doors open a* 6 p. m. After all ticket holders’are taken care of. standing room will be sold. ONE SIGNS, ONE OBJECTS Maranville Comes Through, but Young Wright Holds Out. By Times Special PITTSBURGH. Feb. S.—Rabbit Maran vilify veteran shortstop of the Pirates. signed a 1924 contract Thursday. At the same time it was announced that Glen Wright, the young shortstop purchased from the Kansas City club, is a hold out. It is said Wright demands part of the money involved in his purchase. HIS EIGHTEENTH SEASON Walter Johnson Signs 1924 Contract With Washington Club. By Tim** Special WASHINGTON. Feb. 8.-r The big ace of the Washington pitching staff, the veteran Walter Johnson, Thursday signed ft 1924 contract. The coming season will be Johnson's eighteenth campaign with the local ball club. "■ Early Baseball Calls The Brooksfde Cubs baseball team is being organized for the coming sea son. Most of last year’3 players will be in the fold and there will be new additions. The following players are urged to get in touch with Harold Hustedt at Webster 4252. as soon as possible: Harrell. Kampler, Killion, Torrence. Whaley. Katzenberger, German, Phillips, Huesing. Scanlon, Ehrgott and others wi=h ! ng tryouts. The Spades ha 5,..., I team Will hold a meeting tonight at 1524 Roseline St. to make plans for the coming season

RIVALRY MEETING BETWEEN WABASH AND PAGE’S FIVE i Butler Netters Invade Camp / of Scarlet Saturday for Basket Scrap. j Many Irvington residents will travel : to *'rawfordsville Saturday to see the Butler Bulldogs and the Wabash Litj tie Giants tangle for the first time j this season on the hardwood. Athletic officials at Butler at’p putI ting on a strenuous drive in order to I fill a special car which will leave Sat- | urday afternoon. Disappointments are plentiful" at Butler. The Illinois game capped the climax with a one-point defeat. Coach Page and his Bulldogs have squared away and decided that last-minute losses are a thing of the past and the next team that heats them is going to have to play hard basketball from whistle to curfew. “It’s a hard job to dope these Wabash fellows out,” said Coach Page in answer to a query concerning Butler’s chances. “One night you think the Wabashers are shot ami the next time they turn around and come through with some surprisingly clever ball. Butler-Wabash games never have been sewing meetings and we hope this year’s will be no exception.” The Butler-student body held a pep meeting in the college gymnasium at noon today. Ed Arens, yell leader, had charge of festivities. FIRPO RESEMBLES SAUSAGE BALLOON Luis an Even Worse Boxer \ Than Last Year. By f ritrd Sews BUENOS AIRES, Feb. 8,-vEn-grossed in the affairs of his automobile agency, his coal business and his real estate deals, Luis, Flrpo’s training for his fight with the American, Fanner Lodge, consists solely of a little workout each afternoon with lightweight sparring partners, for which he collects an average daily gate of $750. Flrpo is as fat as a sausage balloon, weighing about 230 pounds at present, and his public training la not enough either to reduce his bulk or improve his fighting. The Ffrpo that Lodge will meet is an even worse boxer. If that be possible, than the Firpo who was knocked sprawling by Jack Dempsey. Nevertheless there is no expectathat Lodge will be able to go more than four or five rounds. Argentine fight fans do not believe the match will be a very good ; one because Fred Fulton stopped Lodge. EASIEST WAY COSTS SIOO Commissioner lAecides Klee Flopped In Bout With I>e Marco. By l nited Presg McKEESPORT, Pa.. Feb. B.—Cuddy De Marco knocked out Frankie Rice, veteran Baltimore lightweight. In the fifth round Thursday night. After the final count, Commissioner Doyle decided Rice laid down and fined him SIOO and suspended him from Pennsylvania rings for a year. TAYLOR LOSES DECISION Referee’s Verdict In Columbus Rout Goes to O’Dowd. By Times Special COLUMBUS. 0.. Feb. 8. —In a tenround scrap here Thursday night Eddie O'Dowd, bantamweight of thla city, was awarded the referee’s decision over Bud Taylor "of Terre Haute. O’Dowd was credited with a short, knockdown in the sixth round. Independent Basketball The Brooksldo A. A. team met its third deteat of the season at the hands of Morris Street Christians, 22 to 12. The Brook - sides' record is fourteen won and three lost. Teams deslrinr games with the A. A.a call Paul Felix, Webster 1790. or address 3507 E. Sixteenth St. The Fribos won from the Edgewood A. C.a, 22 to 8, at the E. Tenth St. gym. For games with the winners get In touch with L. A. McKinley. 549 N. Beville Ave The Communal Cubs will play the T. P. C. Juniors at St Anthony Hall Saturday night. For games with the Cubs call Drexsl 3090 and ask for Morris, or address Morris San dler. 1115 Union St. The Boys’ Club Pirates defeated the Abe Martins, 11 to 6. at the Second Baptist gym. The Pirates have won twelve out of fourteen. Teams wishing games In the 15-16-year-old class call Main 1992 after 7 p. m. and ask fro SUfer. or address Kenneth Slifer. 711 S. Meridian St. The South Side Chums defeated the Edgewood second team, 11 to 10. The Irvington Triangles also were defeated earlier in the week, 19 to 12. For (games with the Chums call Drexel 3783 and ask for John, or address John Betts, 914 Harlan St The O’Hara Sans have won their last five games. The last two victories were over the Eastern Heights team and Beville A. C. The O. H. S. play the Wingfoot Club of Franklin Saturday night at the Keystone and E. Tenth St. gym as a curtain raiser to the Hoyer Top Shop-Indlanapolis Flyer game. For date 9 call Webster 1081 and ask for Howard. The Cumberland and New Palestin teams will play squads from the Diamond Chain j Company at Cumberland Saturday night.

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GOLF . SERIES NO. 6 Sandy Advises on Bad Golf Lies By JOE WILLIAMS XEA Service Staff Writer

SHE game of golf knows no more picturesque character than Sandy Herd, oldest of the contemporary Scot professionals, and one of the most gifted players of the links.

Nearing the sixties, Herd is still a formidable entry in any field, a smiling graybeard, capable of matching shots with any of the current champions. More than thirty years ago Herd was runnerup in the British championship. Ten years later, at the age of 34, he won the event for the first time. In 1920, at the age of 52, he again seemed to have the title cinched when George

Durican came along with one of his famous “inspired” rounds and edged him out. spring, at the age of 55. Herd won the Roehampton open tournament, one of the most important match play events on the other side, beating, among others, Duncan, Ray, Mitchell and Taylor. Herd also owns the unique distinction of having scored more holes in one than any player in the history of the game, a total of seventeen. James Braid, with eleven to bis credit, is believed to be the run-ner-up in this respect.

JIMMY BURKE HE new manager of the new Toledo Hens Is Jimmy Burke. He was appointed Thursday night. Burke has been In the American Association before, with Indianapolis, Louisville and Kansas City.

FLYWEIGHT TITLE BOUtINGOTHAM Villa Is Big Favorite Over Marks Tonight, By United Press NEW YORK, Feb. B.—Pancho Villa, world’s flyweight champion, will defend his title againet Georgia Marks. California, in Madison Square Garden tonight. Villa Is a heavy favorite to win. JUNIOR NET TOURNEY 15-16-Year-Old Teams Play at Emerson Ave. Gym Saturday. A 15-16-year-old Independent basketball tourney will be staged at the Emerson Ave. Baptist Church gym on Saturday starting at 9 o'clock In the morning. The schedule for the tourney, which includes eight teams, la as follows: 9:00 A. M.—lrvlnxton B&lnbow* v. H-th Memorial*. 10:00 A. M.—O'Hara-Sons v*. Arrowhead* A. A. 11:00 A. M.—Turquoise rs. North Star*. 1:00 P. M,—Gan* Five vs. Garfteld A. C. 2:80 P. M.)—Winner 9 a. m. va. winner 10 a. m. 3:30 P. M.—Winner 11 a. m. v*. winner 1 p. m. 8:80 P. M.—Winner 3:30 p. m. vs. winner 8:30 p. m. JOE LYNCH QUITS TOUR By United Press NEW YORK, Feb. 3.—Joe Lynch, world’s bantamweight champion, who has been taking all comers on an exhibition tour of the South with Jack Dempsey, has passed up the barnstorming trip and is returning to New York, according to a message received by his manager, Eddie Mead. Schaefer Hoppe By United Press PITTSBURGH. Feb. B.—'The two greatest billiardlsts in the world resumed play in a 2,400-point exhibition match here today after Young .Take Schaefer gained an 80TT to 698 advantake over Willie Hoppe Thursday afternoon and night. Schaefer clicked off his 800 markers in 22 frames, an average of- 36 4-11. Schaefer’s high run was 177 and Hop pe's 138.

“Bad lies shouldn’t bother a golfer,” says Herd. “In normal circumstances it is just as easy to play from a bad lie as a good lie. To most players a hanging lie is a positive terror. It shouldn't be.

“Your ball we’ll say, is resting on the downside of a hill. It is easy to top this kind of a shot because the ball is lying low. “Here is how to correct that trouble: Take up your stance well be hind the ball, keep well down with body and head. lay the face of the club back, or open and then follow the lie of the ground. "By this I mean follow the down slbpe

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after the ball is hit. Don’t bring the club -up in :i sweeping motion as if you were playing a bail teed up. That's what you probably have been doing in the past .and that's why .you topped jour hanging lie shots. , "The same logic applies to a ball lying the opposite way, on the upside of a slope. You take much the same stance, only not so far back of the ball, and let the club head follow the lie of the ball, swinging in an upward track this time, instead of a downward one.”

SMILING JIMMY BACK IN LEAGUE Burke Gets Managerial Appointment at Toledo. Jimmy Burke, the smiling Irishman from St. Louis, Is back in the American Associaition. A few days ago The Times said Burke appeared to have the inside track for the managerial Job at To ledo and Thursday night his appointment was announced in the Hen city by Joe O'Brien, new owner and president of the Toledo club. Burke is a former manager of the Indianapolis team and local fans will be glad to see him cavorting In the league again. He also managed Louis ville and Kansas City, and In the ”blg show” he was pilot of the St. laauis Americans for a short period. In his younger days. Burke was a third sacker, and a good ons. He was noted for his aggressiveness. Terris Beats Hausner By United Press NEW YORK. Feb. B.—Sid Terris. New York featherweight, won a tenround decision from Jack Hausner. New York, Thursday. AMUSEMENTS ICapitcl Theatre TODAY and TOMORROW Twice Dally—B:ls and 8:15 COLUMBIA BURLESQUE PRESENTS THE TALK OF THE TOWN’ , WITH EDDIE BAIL pnirrc Mat., uc, aoc. m r niUk) Eve.. SOc, 50c. 75c. 00c LADIES AT MATINEE, 15c Next Week. "HAPPY DAYS”

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HIGH SCHOOL NET GAMER MINUS BIG FEATURES TONIGHT Logansport - Anderson, El-wood-Richmond, KokomoFraokfort Among Best. _ 'I he usual assortment of high school h isketball games is on tap tonight in ail sections of the Slate, but from looking over the list there docs not seem to be any "sutler” battles. ’ Many of the teams of known [ .strength may run into something unexpected and lose, or may be given hard fights, but a casual glance can not reveal upsets that usually occur. Logarspcrt is at Anderson and, though the “lx>gan” fans are predicting dire things for tlie Staggmen. an Unprejudiced observer must admit Anderson looks capable of-hand- ! ling the situation. Muncie-Hartford City Muncie is at Hartford City and may be given a\ battle. Still tho Central High School boys must remain the fa=vorites. Shelbyville should defeat Newcastle. Klwood has been improving lately and probably will give Richmond a battle. Elwood gained some fame by holding Muncie to a three-point victory last week. Kokomo at Frankfort is one of those rivalry battles. Every team tries hard i to beat Frankfort because of Its 1 straight string of victories. Kokomo', will try perhaps harder than any other. Lebanon-Frank Hit Lebanon Is at Franklin in a contest in which the home town boys seem to have the edge. In the South, Vincennes at Wash incton is the feature. At the other extreme of Indiana, Wlilting and Emerson of Gary clash in the Steel City. All of the bndianapolu* public high schools are busy. West Newton is at Shortridge, New Augusta at Broad Ripple, Tech at Marion and Manual at Bloomington. A. A. U.. LEAGUE GAMES Hoosier* l’lay Turners and I>e Molays Meet Cominun&ls Saturday. The Indianapolis A. A. U. Basketball League will play two games Saturday I mght at the South Side Turner Hall. ; In the first contest the S. S. Turners; meet the Hoosier A. C.s and in the second game the De Molays and Communals clash.

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HUGH ROSS mN the main go at Monday's boxing show at Tomlinson Hall Monday night. the Louisville middleweight. Hugh Ross, will swap punches with Johnny Gill, York, Pa. Gill outpointed Roy Wallace in a local ring s ome time ago. Ross is said to be a rugged hauler and 'always willing to mix.

Listen in! Bp Times special GREENCASTLE. Ind., Feb. S. —The De Pauw-Franklin basketball game will be broadcast, play by plti.v, from the Bowman gymnasium here tonight. 'A special wire from the Greencastle community broadcast station WLAX to the gym was installed late Thursday afternoon. Hundreds of net fans over Indiana and adjoining States will take advantage of this opportunity to “listen in” on this feature attraction.

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LOCAL FIVES GET 10 SEMI-FINALS IN BASKET MEET Eight -Sectional Tourneys in Amateur Ranks Carded This Week-end. The De Molay Golds will meet the St. Anthony Y. P. C.s and the De Moiay Blues will tackle the Pennsy five in the semi-finals of the Indianapolis sectional of the State independent amateur basketball tourney, Feb. 14, as the result of contests played Thursday at the local “Y.” The second round scores were as follows: Y. P. C.s, 24; Communals, 23; Pennsy, 40; Christamores, 19; De Molay Blues, 27; Mapletons, 14; De Molay Golds, 22; Meteors, 13. The Communals were barred from the Central States Amateur Independent Association for five years because of their actions in Thursday’s play, according to Wayne Ernraelman, head of 'the association. Eight sectional tournej's will be held tenight. and Saturday over the State at the following centers: Fishers, Monticeilo, Moores Hill, Marshall, Plymouth, Pennville. Peru and Knox. The Richmond sectional will be held next Tuesday and Wednesday. On Feb. 15 and 16, next Friday and Saturday, the following sectionals will ibe held: Attica, Wabash, Bicknell, I Vallonia, Elkhart, Yorktown, Falj mouth, Warren, Terre Haute, Morgani town, Cloverdale, Greensburg, Darling-J-ton, Paoli, New Palestine, New Augusta, Hazelton, Midland and Auburn. TRIBE MAINSTAYS SIGN Pitchers Peaty and Fitzsimmons' Attach Names to Contracts. Signed contracts were received at | Washington Park Thursday night i from . Pitchei-s Jess Petty and Fred | Fitzsimmons. These hurlers were the i best Tribe twirling bets last season and much Is expected out of their ! salary wings this j'ear. Petty and Fitzsimmons have been i playing winter ball in Cuba ’and they won’t Heed much strenuous work dur- | ing the Indians’ spring training In the I Southland.