Indianapolis Times, Volume 35, Number 164, Indianapolis, Marion County, 22 November 1923 — Page 6

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Interest Keen in I. U.-Purdue Fray—Big Ten Grid Schedule Ends Saturday

CRIMSON LINE-UP HINGES ON CONDITION OF MARKS Coach Ingram Has Several Back Field Shifts Ready—Lorber and Moomaw Are Certain Starters Behind Line, * By Times Special BLOOMINGTON, Ind., Nov. 22. —“Wii the last game on Jordan Field!” will be the battle cry of Indiana Unviersity students and alumni when Indiana meets Purdue in the 1923 homecoming contest here Saturday.

HASKELL INDIANS HERE FOR BUTLER CLASHSATURDAY Team in Charge of Coach Hanley Takes Short Practice at Irwin Field, The Haskell Indian football players arrived In the city this morning and are quartered at the Claypool Hotel They are in charge of Coaon Dick Hanley, a former Washington State College player. A short practice was planned at 1:30 this afternoon at Irwin field. The Haskell warrior* play Butler here Saturday. .The team has come West by easy stages since its game last Saturday in New York with the Quantico Marines, which ended in a 14 to 14 tie. According to the coach the Indians made nineteen first downs against seven for the Marines. The Haskell eleven was only one yard from the Quantico goal line with two downs to go as the game ended. Coach Hanley declares everything said of the great star, John Levi, Is true. In the Marine contest his punts averaged 58 yards, according to Hanley. His forward passing is a feature of the team’s play. Asa defensive back he has few superiors. Elkins at half back is a renowned track athlete. Last year at the Penn games he took third in the Pentathlon. *

Redskin Sheiks

It doesn't take a desert to make a sheik. Right here in old America long before the white man came to its shores the Injuns were apt at the art of lovin’. In the office at Butler College are filed a score of letters addressed to the members of the Haskell Indian football team that will make its appearance h'ere Saturday. Most of the letters are addressed In feminine handwriting and the postmarks bear the names of towns that the team has visited this fall. And what is most conspicuous is the display of special delivery stamps and the word "personal” written on many of the envelopes.

DARTMOUTH ISON YALE FOOTBALL CARD FOR 1924 Maryland Invited Back to Bowl for Game Next Week, flv Times Special NEW HAVEN. Conn., Nov. 22. The 1924 Yale football schedule was announced here Wednesday. Dartmouth gets a date next year. All of the games are In New Haven with the exception of Princeton. The }(aryland game Is tentative, but the team has been invited to return. The schedule is as follows: North Carolina. Oct. 4: Georgia, Oct. XX: Dartmouth. Oct. 18. Brown. Oct. 25: Army Nov. 1; Maryland. Nov. 8: Princeton, at Princeton. Nov. 15. and Harvard. Nov. 33. Dundee Beats Welling BALTIMORE, Nov. 22. —Joe Dundee of Baltimore was awarded the de clsion over Joe Welling of Chicagd in a twelve-round bout here Wednesday.

-Knuto Mime'jw Gridiron mgicizn

MOST TEAMS USE TOO MANY PLAYS

t* j r 100 many teams I overload with t * I plays," says Rockne. "Six well executed formations are far more valuable than a dozen plays done in so-so fashion “Football has certain stereotyped movements that are in a sense the fundamentals as far as the actual playing Is concerned. Teams try

to run the ends of the opposition, buck ofl tackle, go through center, attempt the forward pass from various formations, punt the ball when it is the logical play and attempt a field goal when held and it ceems the wise Play. “Because I have at various times put over something a little out of the ordinary' in the passing game, a great many footbojl enthusiasts think that I favor trick stuff to straight football. That is an erroneous impression. Both have their place in football. The successful team must be up in each style but must mix up its repertoire of plays to be successful. "A change of pace is the thing. Use the style that fits into the game of your opponents. Against the Army we early discovered the pass was the thing, aginst Princeton and Georgia TV.i we used a running attack almost* entirely.

Since Indiana's new Memorial Stadium will be ready for use next season, Saturday’s game will be the last played on battle-scarred Jordan Field. Consequently the CrimsonBoiler Maker scrap this year will have even more significance than the usual Purdue-Indiana home-coming struggle. Indiana supporters are intent upon closing the gates of their historic gridiron with a victory. Complicated Problem The fact that Lawrence Marks, Indiana’s speedy half back, suffered an -injury in the Wabash game a week ago that may keep him on the bench Saturday, has complicated Coach Ingram's problem of selecting his starting line-up. Ingram may call upon Prucha. a light, fast man to take Marks’ place, or he may move Joe Sloate to half back and send Zlvlch Into tne game at full back. Asa laat resort he may shift Wilkens from end to the back field and play Knoy or Bernoske at the wing. Lwber to Direct Team Max Lorber Is a certain starter at quarter back and “Red” Moomaw is nearly as certain to begin the game at right half back. Eberhart, right end; Fisher, right tackle; Springer, right guard; Capt. Butler, center; Hobllck, left guard, and Niness. left tackle, are others who, barring accident, ■will be on the field for Indiana at the opening kick off. HARD PRACTICE IS OVER Roilmenu* kers, After Strenuous Wednesday, Taper Off for Battle. By Timet Special LAFAYETTE, Ind.. Nov. 22.—Final signal drills and polishing up work were on the Purdue program today and Friday for the Indiana contest at Blomington Saturday. One of the hardest scrimmages of the year was indulged in Wednesday, but no further chances of injury will be taken. Coach Phelan is nursing several cripples along Wellman Is the worst of the lot. Winston and Sanderson are the candidates for his job at end. Captain Claypool, Carlson, Anderson and Wellman did not get into the scrimmage Wednesday because of their condition. Spradllng, who has been bothered by injuries, got into the practice for a short time. Many Purdue rooters will make the Bloomington trip. TURKEY DAY SPEED RACE Eighteen Idiots Have Cars Entered in 250-Mile Event. By Timet Special LOS ANGELES, Nov. 2S.—The en- | try list for the 250-mile auto race at the Beverly Hills Speedway Thanks giving day closed Wednesday and eighteen drivers are listed to start. Many of the best speed pilots in the country will strive for honors. The list includes: Tommy Milton, Earl P. Cooper. Frank Elliott. Cliff Durant. Jimmy Murphy Jerry Wonderlleh, Harry Hartt Eddie Hearne, Joe Boyer Bennett Hill. ‘Red ' Shafer Harlan Fenrler, Ralph De Palma, Ernie Olson. Martin De Alxa*a. Antoine Mourre. Wesley Crawford and Allaoe Butler K. OF C. FISTIC EVENT Five Bouts and Battle Royal on Glove Program Tonight. Five bouts and a battle royal will \ be staged tonight at the Knights of Columbus hall. The matches were ; arranged by A1 Feeney. The card I follows; Maxie Epstelu and Don Caraon. six rounds. Billy Lung and Reamer Roberts, six rounds. Fast Black and Georgia Smith, six rounds Helnie McDuff and Joe Dillon, four rounds The other four-round match was to be arranged this afternoon. The battle royal will be the wind-up feature of the fistic program.

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ROCKNE

means when he says it is most necessary that the players be familiar with every movement of the play. Rockne insists that each player do his part in putting over a play. His keen observation enables him to pick out the slightest flaw in the work of any of his players. And the best thing ebout any criticism that Rockne has to offer is that he can illustrate how the player erred and how he should have properly made the play. One thing that Rocke will not stand for is an alibi. In the world of sport the old alibi is used to cover up many a mistake. Realizing his players are only human, therefore prone to err, Rockne is willing to overlook an occasional slip, mental or physical, but nothing doing on the alibi. Notre Dame players know Rockne hates the man with an alibi, so when they they remain silent and listen to th> words of thsir ccaah.

ALIBI PLAYER IN BAD WITH ROCKNE

“It is easy to get too complicated a set of plays. That is a mistake. The big thing is to have your men know their plays, which enables them to execute them to the best possible advantage..” Watching the Notre Dame squad execute certain plays in practice. It Is a very easy matter to appreciate what Rockne

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AMERICAN ACTRESS CHALLENGES PRIZE FIGHTER IN FRANCE . . . REALIZING THE REPORTERS WON’T FALL FOR THE STOLEN JEWELS BUNK ANY MORE. • • • S P E A KIN’GOF THE BIG THREE, YALE SEEMS TO BE ALL THREE THIS YEAR. • • • RENAULT lIAS ALL THE EAR MARKS OF REGULAR FIGHTER. TIN OR CAULIFLOWER? • • • KDDIE COLLINS SAIS HE HOLBVT (ARK TO BE A MANAGER. . . . IF HE SIGNED WITH WASHINGTON HE WOULDN’T BK. • • • Wrestlers In New York lament lack of work, aa If wrestler* ever wanted to work

RENSSELAER IS COMING WITH STRONG LINE-UP Y. I*. C.s Sure to Be Given Struggle at Washington Park Sunday. In the advance line-up of the Ren* selaer team that appears at Washington Park Sunday aa opponent* for A1 Feeney's Y. P. C. eleven, appear the names of several former college and high school stars. Kinsley, a former Emerson of Gory high school player is at a tackle position and Putts of West Virginia at the other tackle. Notre Dame is represented by Eigelshack at quarter back and Babcock at full hack. Miller, a half back, is a Navy boy and Porter at left end gained his experience at Lombard. Action galore Is expected from this crew.

Independent Basketball

The Southeastern A A s will have a basketball team In the field this season. A number of south side business men are backing the club Only teams of high standing will be played. Games are wanted with city and State teams. The managers of New Palestine and Arlington are asked to write P H. Met rill, 1209 Lindmi St . or call Drexel 0842 Shorty Morrison Is asked to get In touch with the management. The Who s Who basketball teem 1s now reads' for games with teams having access to gyms. Teams in the lfi-rosf-otd class averaging around 124 pounds e*H Drexel 2374 or adilress Manager Murphy. 27 W. Arizona Bt.

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MARATHON RUNNER FED SOUP FROM BICYCLE. . . - HE TOOK IT ON THE RUN, AS YOU MIGHT SAY.

We uaed to think the middlewoirht situation wa horribly (nimmed up. . . . But that was before the 3-year hordes started squabbling among them

WHO ARE THE GREATEST ENDS IN THE COUNTRY? . , . WELL, LEW DOCKSTADER AND NEIL O’BRIEN USED TO BE.

HI LADKLPHJ A squash player knocked unconscious. * * * Perhaps some vulgar person mistook him for a tomato.

AW FAVORITE OVER JIDDIES Cadets Rated Two Touchdowns Better on Form, Bn United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 22.—Because Yule has such a ch&noe to smear Harvard, the Yale Harvard game outranks the classic Army-Navy battle here Saturday in general lnteroet. Navy this year Is In much the same under-dog position of Harvard. Both the cadets and midshipmen have been defeated this year, but th® Army looks to be two touchdowns better than the Navy. The cadets have a powerful team, a fine back fleid behind a great line, but the soldiers are not as mentally alert as Yale, Cornell, Hyraouse and the other leading Eastern teams. A lot of Eastern Interest will follow the Syracuse team to Nebraska. Despite Its defeat last Saturday by Colgate, Syracuse is still one of the real teams of the East. Syracuse defeated Nebraska lost i year after Nebraska had beaten Notre i Dame and tbs same situation presents I Itself this year.

THE INDIANAPOLIS TIMES

P r ~~~~ AJRJS refuses to recognize Mike McTigue • • * It may be hard for anybody to recognize him if he ever meets Gibbons.

Jnilge I-Andts laments the unbalanced rendition of the major Imgnes/ bnt neglects to say anything shout the unbalaueed condition of certain major league minds.

~T~\ PPARENTLY a Yale bulldog L ~~~ J has quit running around with pomera nlans and is back on a diet of red meat.

•/' < CHARLIE LOGAN, CENTER When the Little Giants of Wabash battle their ancient and annual rivals, the De Pauw Tigers, in Crawfordsville Saturday, it will be the usual "hot stuff" struggle, say the dopesters. Wabash and De Pauw have been grid foes for years and each fall their game is a State feature. Fred Aul is the Star Jet captain this year, and Saturday will see him battling the Tigers for the fourth and last time. He is a powerful lineman, sturdy on defense, active on offense and a hard tackier. His heme is in Cleveland. Logan. Wabash center, who hails from Indianapolis, is another Scarlet mainstay arid Saturday will see him skirmishing with the Tigers for the third time Aul. Logan and other Wabashers are ready for the Tigers—and it is needless to say the Tigers feel the same way about being ready and willing to mix.

A. A. U. BASKET MEET AT KANSAS CITY AGAIN Winner hi Indianapolis League Will Iteprcucnt Tliis City. Bn Times Special KANSAS CITY. Mo., Nov. 22. —The National A. A. U. basketball tourney will le held In Kansas City again this year, according to announcement here. The date Is not decided yet. The champion of the new A. A. U. League organized In Indianapolis will go to this tourney. There Is a meeting at the Hoouler A. C. Friday night, at which plans will be made for the season's play. City Three-Cushion Meet In the city three-cushion billiard tourney Wednesday night at the Board of Trade parlors Mitcholl ran out his required fifty points while Lewis was getting only forty of his required forty-five. Wolf and Johnson meet tonight, both playing for forty-five. Indlana-lUinoist Cue l eague Indianapolis lost its first game in ; the Indlana-I’llnois Three-Cushion I League Wednesday afternoon when, i Scheffer of Champaign, 111., defeated : Harry Cooler, 50 to 42. At night Cur- | tis of this city defeated the Illinois I player, 50 to 27.

CONFERENCE ENJOYS ONE OF BEST GRID SEASONS Illinois, Michigan and Minnesota Enter Last Round as Outstanding Teams —Badgers and Maroons Battle. Bu United Preis CHICAGO, Nov. 22.—The curtain will be run down Saturday on the 1923 football season of the Big Ten Conference—one of the most successful in the history of the game in the Middle West. Two powerful teams —Illinois and Michigan —both

undefeated and tied for conference leadership, take the field against worthy opponents in an effort to complete schedules without a stain. Illinois, playing a harder schedule than the Wolverines, journeys to Columbus, Ohio, to face Wilce’s Ohio State eleven. If the Illini win aa expected, they will have come through five Conference games without defeat. In addition, Illinois defeated Nebraska and Butler College. Michigan stays at home to meet the powerful Minnesota squad, which has been coming along without defeat. Minnesota was virtually put out of the running by playing to a scoroless tie against Wisconsin. Wisconsin and Chicago meet in another hard game at Stagg field. Neither team has much advantage, except that Stagg’s men are possibly in better physical condition. Northwestern, kicked around all over the Conference this year, entertains lowa at the Evanston homecoming. Coach Thistlethwaite ha* announced he will discard sentiment and put young material into the line-up, although It wiil be the laat chance for several of his regulars to appear In Purple suits. Indiana and Purdue, both put out of the running early in the season, will clash at Bloomington for the "Big Ten championship of Indiana,” FOUR SCRAPS ON NEXTRJNG CABO Three Bouts to Precede Wal-lace-Downey Feature, The American A. C., which is to stage the next mitt show at Tomlinson Hall Thanksgiving night, sea turing Roy Wallace and Anthony Downey in the main go of ten rounds, has drafted the program for the card which will be completed by the end of the present week. The program will be as follows: Mam Bout. Middleweight*—Wallace vs Downey, ten rounds Semi wind-up, bantamweights, eight rounds. Second bout bantanwnrhts, eight rounds Preliminary., welterweights six rounde Wallace Is going to be in the top condition when he swaps punches with the Ohio battler. SIKI COLLECTS $17,000 Battler Paid Well for Bout; Kid Norfolk Draws $11,379. By I nited Xetct NEW YORK. Nov. 22.—Battling Siki got $17,000 to buy court plaster' for his damaged eye when his man j uger went to Madison Square Garden ; Wednesday to get the Battler’s pay j for his losing fight with Kid Norfolk Tuesday. Norfolk's share of the receipts was $11,379. Asa reward for showing up in good physical condition and fit to fight fifteen rounds, Siki has been given a permanent boxing license by the New York commission, revokable, however, if he should misconduct himself.

KAHN Suits and

By DR. A. H. SHARPE Famous Yale Star and Coach HE play that stands out in my memory Hpl as the greatest BU play 1 ever saw helped Cornell win her game from Harvard in 1915. S h i v e r i c k, of xZhH Cornell, standing / //h on his own tw-o-Wfi EaE yard line, was <*¥ JQI. called upon to kick the ball out of danger. When the ball was snapped back the Harvard line broke through quickly and he kicked the ball apparently through a mass of outstretched Harvard arms. To The Fifteen-Yard line With Mahon and Wilcox waiting in midfield for a possible fair catch or run back, the situation looked rather dangerous. You can imagine the relief to the Cornell team and her supporters, when the ball rolled out in the vicinity of Harvard’s fifteen-yard line, leaving Harvard in a defensive and not an offensive position. It doesn't take very long to write this play, but it will be a good many years before another such a kick as that is produced under such trying circumstances. The Mystery of It When Shiverick received the ball it seemed certain that a half dozen Harvard players certainly would block the attempt to punt. How he managed to get the ball away always will be a mystery to every' one who saw that game. To make the play all the more remarkable. he got such distance to the boot that it carried over the Harvard safety men and the kick approximately carried over eighty yards. NEXT—Bart .Ma comber, former Illinois star, tells how “Potsy" Clarke ran length of field for touchdown against Chicago. Independent Football The Southeastern* and Arlington A. C. Clayed a 0-to-0 tie. Game* are wanted for Thanksgiving and Dee 2. Address H. J. Kenredy, 1710 Prospect Bt. or cal! Drexel 7415, Practice will be held Friday night at 7 30 Tho Riley Tigers will play the S'.ntheasterns Sunday at Riley Park at 3 p m. In a previous game the Tigers were defeated 6 to 0, but both teams have been strengthened since that time by high school players and a real battle Is expected. The Tigers will practice Friday night at Riiey Park. The Kelly A. Ci will practice Thursday at 7:15 Coach Sauters has some important things to tell the team. For games In the forty-pound ela**- cal! Stewart 2751 and ask for Herb. Brookside Midgets take notice.

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THURSDAY, NOV. 22, 1923

HARVARD HOPES REST GN MAKING YALEBEAT SELF Forcing Overconfidence in Rival Squad Only Chance — Blue Looks for Feast. By HENRY L. FARRELL. United Press Staff Correspondent NEW YORK, Nov. 22. —Considering that in sixteen years Yale has not scored a touchdown on Harvard's field and that in the same period Yale has scored only one touchdown against Harvard any place, it can be realized with what hope for a feast Yale looks to the battle with Harvard next Saturday in Cambridge. Yale seems to have one of the best teams in its history. Certainly, It is the best eJeven that has represented Yale since Cupid Black’s fine team of 1916. Harvard apparently has the worst team of years and Harvard feels at heart that the only chance for victory rests in the possibility that Yale will beat itself. Yaie teams have done such things in the past. Playing to the vanity of Yale in the hope of filling the team with too much confidence. Harvard is sending out “Gil Dobie" Lamentations and Harvard men in New York maintain it’s 5 to 2 against us. Yale not only feels sure of victory, but its fondest hope is to score more than 41 points, a record that Harvard holds over Yale since 1915. COLLEGIAN STARS NIEETFERNDALES Feature Football Battle Arranged Here Dec. 2. The exCollegians will meet Femdale Dec. 2 in the final game of the Ferndale schedule, according to arrangements concluded today by Manager Wertz of the Femdales. It is said the following players will appear in the line-up of the Ex-Col-legians: Duttenhaver, Phil Brown, Hungate, Kiser. McClaffin, Pruett, Welboum, Millar. Kimmel and Feree. It is almost a certainty Tubby Moffet will also be on the all-star squad. The Butler football season ends this week with the Haskell Indian game Saturday, and this contest winds up the college grid careers of the men who are to play in the Femdale game. The contest will be played at Pennsy Park. Next Sunday the Ferndales meet their old Jonesboro rivals at the east side park. ST. CATHERINE’S BOXING Four Bouts to Be Staged at Hall on Friday Evening. St. Catherine’s unit of the N. C. W. C. will stage a boxing show in their hall Friday evening at 8 o’clock. The hall is at Shelby and Tabor Sts. Jack Harbor, chairman of arrangements, today announced the fistic card as follows: Bobby Long vs. Jacky Barnhart. Billy T on? vs. Dicky Osborne. Baulin* Dudenz vs. Mickle McCormick. Billy Braun vs. Marty O'Brien.