Indianapolis Times, Volume 35, Number 145, Indianapolis, Marion County, 30 October 1923 — Page 9

TUESDAY, OCT. 30, 1923

WHICH IS MORE SCIENTIFIC, BASEBALL OR GRID?—STARS CANT AGREE

By BILLY EVANS pTvTjniCH is the more scientific, yju football or baseball? During the past month I put the question to a score of former football stars who are now playing major league baseball. Twelve of the players thought

CADDIES MOURN FRIEND’S DEFEAT IN STOCK GAME Chick Evans, Who Once Toted Clubs Himself, Created Foundation for Kids Before Financial Tumble, By JOE WILLIAMS Chick Evans broke, hundreds of thousands in debt, a victim of stock market back-fire. A large part of the world will read this, tilt a surprised eyebrow and admit in an impersonal sort of way that “he was a good golf player anyhow.”

The world is like that. But to the caddies —the little camels of the links —the news that their illustrious idol is in serious distress will come as a staggering shock. To them the Chicago expert is little lees than the god of golf, an inspiring, helpful figure that stands for everything that is big and noble in the sport, ft Evans Once Cadoy £ Evans was a caddy himself twenty years ago at the old Edgewater Club in Chicago. One of the finest things about Evans as a man was that he never forget he once was a caddy. In recent years Evans devoted much time and money to the creation of a caddy foundation, a national fund the purpose of which is to improve working conditions, provide playing opportunity and in other ways make life a bit zestful for the club toters. Evans has aot been himself for ten months. The terrific mental strain under which he worked took the edge ofT his usually brilliant game. At Flossmoor in the national amateur he was no more the Evans of a year ago than Mathewson is the pitcher he was In 1905. He lost to Willie Hunter in the first round. Loses to Hunter The match ended at the seventeenth green In the afternoon when Hunter rammed home a beautiful spoon second over a creek. Chick wanted to win at Flossmoor—wanted to win badly. Somehow or other he figured a win there might ease the burden of his troubles. But when defeat came and in the very firfet round, to add another thorn to his crown, Chick was still the smiling sportsman, game and courteous to the last blow. But Chick has anew conqueror—the most vicious of all. The stock gambler.

NEW NET SQUAD ORGANIZED HERE Local Basket Stars to Be Known as'Prest-O-Lites, Johnny Hennessey, Johnny Rice, Marty Frankfort, Hank and Tubby Btevens and Brooks Secrest are included in the line-up of the latest local basketball team, sponsored by the Prest-O-Ute Company and to be known as the Indianapolis Prest-O-Lites. The Omars, Chamber of Commerce, Merchants Heat and Light, Em-Roes and other strong fives have had the services of various members of the new team in the past few seasons, but they were practically all members of the famous old South Side Turner team of a few years ago, a net squad noted for its wonderful team play. The team is now practicing and will open its season the latter part of November. All games will be played on the road, except possihlv a few contests late in the season with college and pro teams, which will be played at Tomlinson Hall. Earl McKee. 25 S. Meridian St., is manager k-f the team and is now making up "he schedule for the first half of the season.

PLESTINA, ZYBSZKO DRAW Heavyweight Wrestlers !o Long Match Fail to Gain a Fall Hy Times Special XEW YORK. Oct. 30.—Plestina and Zybszko, heavyweight wrestlers, milled around on the mat two hours and a half without a fall here Monday. The bout was a draw. Plestina started out with a rush, and Was on top of his opponent three times in the first ten minutes. It was Plestina’s first change against any of the so-called “wrestling trust.” Winner of the bout was to have got a bout with champion “Strangler” Lewis. TEN BIKE MEN SURVIVE McNamara and Horan Ijead—One Team Withdraw*. By Times Special CHICAGO, Oct. 30.—Well over the 600-mile mark, ten teams still were in the running in the bike race here today. McNamara and Horan were leading In points. The first withdrawal of tbe race came a few minutes after the 10 p. m. sprints Monday night, when Verri and Debaets pulled out of the race. Verri was injured in spill early in the evening. Merriken to Meet Ramsey Merriken is to meet Ramsey tonight in the State three-cushion billiard tournament at Cooler’s. A match between Cooler and Kepner went to eighty-six innings Monday night. Cooler won, 50 to 38. Winner had a high run of three and the looser a run of four. St. George Opens Season The St. George five will open .theiiy' basket-ball season Friday night when they meet the Washington A. C.’s at the Second Baptist gym. For games with the St. George team call Drexel

baseball was more scientific, called for quicker thinking, demanded more of the individual as an individual. Four leaned to football, while four thought It was about fifty-fifty. Practically every one of the players expressed the opinion that baseball offered a greater field for in-

Fight Card Tonight

At Tomlinson Hall. 8:30 P. M. MAIN BOIT K. O. JnUdo, Toledo, v*. Ale* Novecky, Cincinnati, ten rounds at 136 pounds. SEMI-WIND-UP Happy Atherton. Indianapolis, vs. Hon Carson, Indianapolis, ten rounds at US pounds. SECOND PRELIMINARY Dick Osborn. Sheibyvllle, vs. Johnny Sawyer*, Indianapolis, six rounds at 118 ponnds. CURTAIN-RAISER Dutch English, Indianapolis, vs. Ks Maroney, Indianapolis, six rounds at 138 pounds. Elm LOOKS TOWARD ROSE DO ♦ Three Games Remain on Card —Poly Next Saturday, By Times Special FRANKLIN, Ind.. Oct. 30—With only three games remaining on the Franklin College football card for 1923, Coach Ed Duggan today started drilling his men for the last laj i of the present season. Saturday the gold and blue eleven will clash with Heze Clark's Rose Poly squad at Terre Haute. On Nov. 10 the locals will battle Georgetown at Franklin ; and Nov. 24 they are scheduled to i meet Earlham at Richmond. Although Rose Poly fell before the ! onslaught of the University of Louis- ; ville team by a 13 to 0 score last Sat- [ urday. Coach Duggan Is putting his men through the mill, in order to eliminate all possible chances for a defeat. Franklin downed the Kentucky squad as the first of the season by a 40 to 0 score. The local eleven came out of the Do Pauw fracas in fine shape, with i the exception of a few minor Injuries. The men are not the least down- | hearted over the outcome of the Tiger | game. 60,000 EXPECTED AT NEW STADIUM .\ | Illinois to Dedicate Field at Home-Coming Day, j By United Press URBANA, 111.. Oct. 30. —Sixty thou- ! sand fans are expected when Bob • Zuppke's warriors take on the ChlI cago Maroons at the opening of the j new stadium here Saturday. It will j be the Illini home-coming and both ! reams so far are undefeated. Saturday's contest here Is looked upon in Big Ten circles as a deciding i factor in doping the Conference chainj pionship. The Illini have beatert 1 lowa and if Illinois wins Saturday and | lowa beats the Wolverines, Zuppke’s i men can almost claim the champton- | ship. If. on the other hand, both Chicago | and lowa win, the title will be consid- | prably clouded. Michigan, Illinois and Chicago remain undefeated in the Conference so far. Minnesota and Wis- ! eonsin have lost no games, but played j to a scoreless tie last Saturday.

CULVER BEATS KEMPER 12-0 IN HARD BATTLE End Runs and Passes Gain Ground for Hooeier Eleven. By Times Special BOONVILLE, Mo., Oct. 30.—Scoring which terminated in a 12 to 0 victory for Culver Military Academy began itj the second quarter of the game with Kemper Military Academy here Monday. A series of end runs brought Boykin across for a touch down. In the second half Wemmer made the second touchdown after a series Os passes. Kemper line was Impregnable. Culver gains were made largely by end rims. BRIDGES K. O.S BOBBY LEE Loral Welterweights Go Four Rounds at Cincy. By Times Special CINCINNATI, Ohio, Oct. 30. Bobby Bridges knocked out Bobby Lee in the fourth round of a scheduled ten-round bout here Monday night. Both men are Indianapolis welterweights. Huggins Drafts Mexican By Tint's Special NEW YORK, Oct. 30.—Adolfo Ar guijo will be the first Mexican to play it, major league baseball if he survives training season with the New York Yankees next spring. Manager Huggins has drafted the Mexican from -fie Corsicana club of the Texas Association. Arguijo is a right-hand ed pitcher with a burning speed, Scout Bob Qonnery, who discov< i>-! him, tic

dividual supremacy. All were agreed that football called for more concerted team play. “When a pitcher is a marvel like Mathewson or Johnson, such a twirler would stand out in baseball if he was on the worst team in the world,’’ said one of the former collegians in explaining his opinion. * “Place a football star of equal ability on joke eleven and the gridiron celebrity would not stand out nearly so brilliantly. “Footbdll calls for defense. If one player has marked ability but is on a weak team, that player has little or no chance to shine when pitted against a strong team. Such a situation would mean in a sense eleven players pitted against one. and take It from me the one, no matter how great a star, wouldn’t even get started. “Put Babe Ruth on any kind of a

JOHNSON, GIPSON PROBABLY OUT OF LOMBARDBATTLE Wabash to Meet Strong Eleven With Two Backfield Stars Crippled, By Times Special CRAWFORDSVILLE, Ind., Oct. 30. —Lombard Is next on the schedule of Pete Vaughan and his Little Giants and the game Is causing no small amount of worry and preparation in the Wabash camp. Monday afternoon when Vaughan’s men came out to shake off the Butler knocks it was found that Johnny Johnson, half back and crack defensive player of the outfit, and Dana Gipson, full back, will be out of football for the next two weeks, and possibly longer. Jolmsj'i, Gipson Out Johnson, in the first place, dislocated two vertebrae In his neck in the Purdue game, and that same neck was giving him lots of trouble as a result of his connections with Butler Then, secondly. Johnson twisted a knee Saturday and Is hobbling around on crutches. So it Is certain that he will not be ready to go again for awhile. He will take this week off to rest, and Gipson, who also busted a knee, will be right with him. With these two men out. Vaughan will have to scare up some more back field strength. Monday afternoon he sent his second varsity team against the freshmen. Another Back Reid Seidenstlcker, Wyatt and Robertson punched over two touchdowns, while the first year men were held scoreless. Wyatt and Seidenstlcker probably will be called upon to work for Gipson and Johnson. The Wabashers will keep away from scrimmage again this week, but they will run lots of signals, and probably ♦vlll take a few nights off for blackboard drill. THREE NET TEAMS TO REPRESENTCHRISTAMORE Youths of Different Ages to Play on Various Basketball Fives. The Christamore Athletic Club has organized Its basketball work for the season and is to put three teams In the field this year. One team, the Christamore A. C.s, will be made up of boys 17 years and over and will play games in the 135 to 140-pound class. A middle weight team called the Christamore Triangles will be made up of boys 14 to 17 years of age and will play In the 115 to 120-pound class. The third team called the Christamore Juniors will be made up of younger boys and will play In the 100 to 115-pound class. The games wanted for these three teams are to be played Saturday nights in the Fletcher Ave. Baptist Church beginning Nov. 1. Other games to be played Tuesday and Thursday nights away from this gym are also desired. Teams having open dates, call Washington 3948 after 6 p. m.

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club and his ability to slam out home runs wouldn’t be impaired in the least.” Eddie Collins in his day at Columbia was a star quarter back. Today Eddie Collins is regarded as a master of baseball strategy, one of the brainiest players in the history of the game. "A lot of new stunts have crept into football since I played it,” remarked Collins, when I asked him which he regarded as the more scientific. “However, the great love that I have for football has caused me to keep up with the changes. The game has opened up a great deal since I played and I really think it is more scientific today than it ever was. "Baseball, I think, offers more possibilities for the Individual. Ty Cobb, with his great speed, deceptive slide and keen brain, woqjd

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HARRY WILSON Introducing Harry Wilson, nonstop special of football, great Penn State back. Against the Navy recently this halfback made three thrilling long runs for touchdowns. Against West Virginia last Saturday he again shone brilliantly. • Scoring both touchdowns. LOCAL ELEVEN AT LOUISVILLE MALE Shortridge Takes on Tough Foe in Kentucky Saturday, Shortridge high school will meet plenty of competition on Saturday quite a ways from homo when the Northslders take on the Louisville Male high team of Louisville at that city. The Southern team has lost only one game this year. After the Saturday's contest Shortridge has an off week to rest up for Its first Intra-city scrap with Manual which is scheduled for Nov. 16. Coach Norton stated today that he thought he would start the same tqam against Louisville that played Marion last Friday. Meeker, full back, has been dropped from the squad. Eighteen players will make the trip to Louisville. Independent Football The Maple ton* have an open date Sunday. They have access to a field and would ike to near from a a-ood club A.ll Manlcton linemen are to report early Wednesday evening- for BpeetaJ instructions FoH rail ttandolph <10.34 and ask for Herb. The Western Ramblers will play the Western Independents next Sunday at 3 and. m. The Ramblers won from the Tndepend ent Midwaj-s 13-0 last Sunday.

have been a wonder on any ball club. “The remarkable showing that Walter Johnson has made with the Washington team, that has been a consistent second division aggregation, further proves the possibilities open to the individual class. "In football there have been many star players who have shone with a brilliancy equal to Cobb on the ball field, but such players did not stand out on their own individual merit. Invariably they received much needed assistance from their teammates. In football, while the glory always goes to the man carrying the ball, often the real praise belongs to the men In the line or doing the interfering.” To get the viewpoint ofti football star just breaking into the majors, I picked on Mike Gazella of the New York Yankees. Gazella has great

INDIANA COLLEGE ELEVENS BUST AS BIG GAMES LOOM Throughout State Thud of the Pigskin Is Daily Music on Grid, By Times Special BLOOMINGTON, Ind., Oct. 30. Hanover will journey down to Jordan Field Saturday. The Crimson team is taking things easy on the field this week following its victory over the "Rhinles" last Saturday. Turned ankles are keeping Knoy, Reynolds and Fries off the gridiron. Moomaw and Sloate are back on the field after being on the hospital list several days. Temp Smith, quarter back last year, has reported for duty. Heze Works Poly Bit imr* Rprcial TERRE HAUTE, Ind.. Oct. 30. Heze Clark has got his Engineers in training for the Rose Poly-Franklin game Saturday. The Rose Poly team lost to the University of Louisville last Saturday In a tough struggle. Varsll y-Fresh meji Bu Times Special LAFAYETTE, Ind., Oct. 30.—A egular full time game between the var slty squad and the yearlings was to be played on Stuart Field today, in preparation for the big clash with the Irish Saturday at South Bend. Notre Daine Chesty By r niied Press SOUTH REND, Ind Oct. 30. Coach Rockne began Intensive drill of the whole Notre Dame team today after devoting yesterday to the scrubs. After three Inter sectional games with the best Southern and Eastern teams, the contest with Purdue next Saturday Is looked on here a/s a mild workout. De Pauw Yearlings Work By Tim's Special OREENOASTI/E. Ind.. Oct. 30—De Pauw freshmen are going through a heavy workout this week. They meet the Butler yearlings at Indianapolis next Saturday in what is predicted to be a hard fought game. The one-year men struggled against the varsity squad Monday night. LAFAYETTE ELEVEN TO MEET Y. P. C.S SUNDAY Feeney to Hold Workout Wednesday to Drill Plays. The I>nfayette find.) pro football team will be the next attraction at Washington Park .Sunday a.s opponents of the local Y. P. C. team. With the advapee notice that the team from the college city will he made up of former Purdue stars from shat section and Frankfort. Coach A1 Feeney of the locals added another practice session to the week’s work. Drill on new plays will be held Wednesday night at the hall. Eddie Dyer and Silvers Draw Bu Times Special LOUISVILLE, Ky.. Oct. 30— Eddie Dyer and Lew Silvers scrapped twelve rounds to a draw hero Monday night.

promise as a shortstop. At Lafayette last season, Gazella was one of the outstanding stars of the year. “Football, I think, is the more interesting to play,” said Mike, “at least it was to me. In football there is always something doing. In every play there is a certain thing that

OLD KAINTUCK’ SCENE OF ZEV-MY OWN RACE NOV. 3 Supremacy Among Three-Year-Olds to Be Settled Fast Horses and Fair Women in Gala Day, By United Press ' NEW YORK, Get. JO.—Old Kaintuck’, home of fast horses and fair women, will play host to the fastest of the former and the fairest of the latter on Saturday when Zev and My Own. disputants for the 3-year-old supremacy, meet in the Latonia championship for which a purse of $50,000 will be added.

The meeting of Admiral Carey T. Grayson's gentle-eyed brown colt and Harry F. Sinclair's dusky Zev, conqueror of Papyrus, will be more than just a horse race. It will be the turf event of the season, surpassing in interest for American horse lovers, the international stake race of ten days ago. There Avill be other horses in the race, of course. In Memoriam, champion of western 3-year-olds; Rialto, which picked up a nice $20,000 handicap at Laurel Saturday; Donges and King Salopian's Seal are expected to face the barrier. WALLACE-DOWNEY BOUT SOUGHT FOR LOCAL RING Army and Navy Men Want to Bring Cleveland Pug Here The Army and Navy Club will make an effort to bring Roy Wallace, Brightwood pug, and Anthony Downey. Cleveland middleweight, into the ring here. Captain Wilson, Ft. Benjamin Harrison, said today. Representatives of the club will ask for a date for the bout from the box tng commission, which meets Nov. 8. Wallace's impending bout with Johnny GUI of Yprk. Pa., Nov. 8, may be a tough scrap for the local pug. The bout will bo staged at Ft. Thomas, Ky. It will be a ton-round affair.

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BROADWAY ALL THIS WEEK peppy BURLESQUE ANP VAUDEVILLE ADMISSION 25c and 50c PLUS TAX. This* coupon and I(X* entitle* Lady to Pftoloc S**at Any Mat. Fieept Holiday.

ENGLISH’Sweek Matinee* H'ed. and Sat. ZIEGFELD GREATEST MARILYN MILLER LEON ERROL IN SALLY fast Include* WALTER CATLETT. Prloes Nlgnt x -'Hi. mill. sl.lO to $4.40 Wed. Mat., sl.lO to $3.30. Ttie*. und Wed.. Nov. 6-7. Matinee Wednesday. THE CLINGING VINE With Peggy Wood Sent Sale Opens Thursday Prices—Nights. SOe to $2.60 Wed. Mat., 50c to $1.60.

PALACE BIGGER & BETTER THAN EVER PATSY SHELLY —AND—ERNY HOLMGREN’S “GLAD” ORCHESTRA CfTHER BIG ACTS PHOTOPLAY “VANITY FAIR” THACKERAV'S CLASSIC

you should do, often there are several things if jjou are able to accomplish them. In baseball you often have to stand around for an Inning or more without a play coming your “In football you always know that the other fellow Is going to do and

H. A. C. STARS AND COACH ON DEMOLAY SWIM TEAM Newly Organized Aquatic Squad I-ooks for Good Season. With Johnnie Churchman and Ra der Wingate, Hoosier A. C. stars, swimming on the newly organized Indianapolis De Molay swimming team and D. Melvil Carr. Hoosier A. C. coach, to give the boys pointers, prospects for a successful season seem unusually bright. Matches will be scheduled with other De Molay chapters In the State, athletic clubs and other organizations which desire to try their luck with the local team. VIIIjf Tremaine By Times Special NEW YORK. Oct. 30.—Pancho Villa, flyweight champion, is to meet Carl Tremaine, Cleveland bantamweight champ, at Madison Square Garden Nov. 29, Promoter Tex Rickard announced. The bout will not be for the title.

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LYRIC § Broadway’s Favorite Mugical Attraction AL. HAMMON’S ‘‘White Way Orchestra” Eleven stars of syncopation, presenting a snappy program of melody hits, and including JEAN FRANCIS BILLING A Delightful Vocal Soloist 7 Other Big, I New Acts Including the MYRON iPEARL TROUPE Spectacular Dance Revue

/ All-Comers’ Pool Tournament Started October 29, Claypool Billiard Parlors State Champion trants to meet the ten beat players of Indiana. Suitable prizes offered, transportation furnished. Write for particular*. Everything free. Exhibitions arranged by Yuan. Address GENE HENNING. State Champion, t'laypool Hotel. Indianapolis.

who is to carry the ball. There is a close relationship between the eleven players on every move that is made. “Baseball, to my way of thinking, is far more scientific. It requires a much higher degree of individual skill.”

me scum MEETS HOHNS IN CUETDURNEY Willie Hoppe Takes Match Fron Hagenlacher by 500 to 424 Score. By United Press NEW YORK, Oct. 30.—Defending the title that he has held almost continuously for seventeen years, Willie Hoppe won the opening match of the world’s 18.2 balkline billiard eham pionship last night when lie defeated Erich Hagenlacher, German champion, 500 to 424. Hoppe’s best run was one of 106. while Hagenlacher clicked off one of 121. Hoppe's average was 19 6-26 and Hagenlacher’s was 16 24-25. This afternoon Welker Cochran was tc play Roger Conti, the French cham pion, and tonight Jake Schaefer will play Eduoard Horemans, the Belgian. Epstein Defeats Ray Maxie Epstein, local bantamweight, easily defeated Billy Ray. Cincinnati, at Cincy Monday night, according to word received here.

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APOLLO * Lincoln J. Carter's “The Eleventh Hour" Th* Thrills rtf a Thousand Picture* Packed Into One Charles Jones, Shirley Mason and a great cast. Imperial Comedy “Why Pay Rent” VIRGIL MOORE’S APOLLO ORCHESTRA

TniS WEEK ONLY “ENEMIES of WOMEN” By Blasco Ibanez With ALMA RUBENS LIONEL BARRYMORE and an All-Star Cast The magnlfioent drama of Europe's love* and intrigues by the author of "The Four Horsemen. Staged In unsurpassed luxury In Paris, Monte Carlo and Nice with a cast of celebrities. including the most famous heautle* of stage and screen. Performances Start—ll:ls, 1:0#, 3:45, 4:30, 6:15, 8:00, 9:45. COMING SUNDAY LOIS WEBKIt Production “A Chapter in Her Life” Based on lbe Story of “JEWEL”

COME ALONG TO THE THE BIG SHOW Time Table LEE DUNCAN Presents His Police Dog Hat* RIN-TIN-TIN “In Person” At 3:40—7:25—9:28 A Different Photoplay “WHERE THE NORTH BEGINS" 13:15-1:50-8:50-5:30-7:30-91SO World's Greatest Motion Picture Organist 0. SHARPE MINOR In His Original Novelty “THE ORGAN” At 3:23—7:10—9:10 Circle Orchestra Playing a—Rachmaninoff’s Preinde b—Oriental Marche—Altschuler MODEST ALTSCHULER Musical Director At 8:15—7:00—9:00 COMEDY NEWS

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