Indianapolis Times, Volume 35, Number 101, Indianapolis, Marion County, 7 September 1923 — Page 14

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Another McAuliffe Article, in Which More Dempsey Faults Are Discussed

BURNED OUT AND DRAWN, OLD RING CRITIC AVERS N " Fears Champ Will Blow Up in Couple of Rounds Unless He Improves Condition Before Battle, By JACK M’AULIFFE, Former World’s Lightweight Champion.' NEW YORK, Sept. 7.—Jack Dempsey gave me the impression in his training camp at Saratoga that he was burned out and too fine. He’s leaving himself in the gym and unless he stops hard work right away and starts to conserve his strength he is not going to keep Firpo down if he does get him on the floor.

Dempsey Is dried up. He lacks strength and his wind is bad. He’s thin and his lips are shrunk. He ought to work the rest of the time for his wind. Right Out of Gear He looks to me as he were gone and unless he improves himself I think he ( will blow up in a couple of rounds. You hear all the experts saying that his great left hand will be better han Firpo’s right hand, which everyone admits is most deadly. But Dempsey will not win with his left hand alone. He‘ll have to counter to win and he has got himself all thrown off with his right hand. His left hand isn’t what it was in Toledo and neither is his right. He “fell in love” -with Carpentier’s straight right and his right cross counter. He has tried to imitate the Frenchman and the result is he has lost his original style, which was very good. He is playing now for a faulty right and he has taken the kick out of his left hand. Misses Sap Strength He’s also doing a lot of things like leading with his right and when he tries a -right counter he loops it over and he’ll miss that way more times than he will land. Every time he misses, it will take the heart out of him and sap his strength. Dempsey has no strength to lose. He will have to be strong because Firpo is smart enough to hang on him in the clinches and Firpo has plenty of weight with him. If Dempsey is to win the coming and retain his title he will have to put his artistic boxing ambitions aside and tear in and sock.

BASEBALL STANDING -=■ . AND—CALENDAR

AMERICAN ASSOCIATION Won. Lost. Pet. Bt. Paul *. 89 45 .604 Kansas City 85 47 .644 Louisville 73 t}3 .540 Columbus 04 08 .485 Milwaukee 58 72 .440 Minneapolis .. . 58 73 .443 INDIANAPOLIS 60 75 .427 Toledo 45 80 .343 AMERICAN LEAGUE W. L. Pet.! W. L Pet. N. York 83 43 .659; Wash "61 60 .480 Cleve... 69 56 .552:Chicago . 50 07 .45.1 Detroit. 04 58 .525;Phila.. . . 53 72 .424 St. Louis 03 60 .512f Boston .. 48 75 .390 NATIONAL LEAGUE W. L. Pct-I W. L. Pet. N. York 83 SO- .624; St. Louis 05 65 .500 Cincm. . 76 62 .6931 Brooklyn 00 66 .470 Pittsb.. ' 76 63 .589; Boston . . 43 85 .330 Chicago. 71 60 ,54l;Phtla .. 42 85 .331 Yesterday’s Results AMERICAN ASSOCIATION (Eleven Innigs) Kansas City .. . 010 100 000 00—2 8 1 St. Paul 002 000 000 01—3 10 0 Saiadna. Skiff: Sheehan. Gonzales. Milwaukee 000 010 410—0 10 1 Minneapolis 000 430 00*—7 11 4 Pott, Young; Eng. Erickson. Mayer. (Called; Rainl .Louisville 101 200 o—l 9 2 Toledo -r 000 000 o—o 33 Deberry, Meyer; Finneran. Anderson. AMERICAN LEAGUE Boston 000 002 000 —2 7 0 ;Philadelphia 100 020 03*—0 10 2 Quinn. Picinich. Devormer: Rommel!, Perkins. St. Louia-Chdago—Rain (Only games scheduled.) NATIONAL LEAGUE .Philadelphia 000 000 100—1 7 o New York 020 100 11*—5 10 1 Mitchell. Betts, Henline; Bentley, Gowdy. (Called; Rain) Chicago 100 00-—1 5 0 Pittsburgh 302 O*—s 9 1 Alexander. Dumovich. OFarrel' Hamilton. Goo*h. , Cincinnati-St Louis—Rair (Only games scheduled.)

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The Imperials are working otlf for the coming football season and hare the making: of a strong eleven. Some more good players are needed, however, and anybody wishing tryouts should be at the meeting Sunday at 10 a. m.. King Ave. and ff. Michigan St. The St. Philip football team will have a meeting tonight at 819 N. Gray St. at 8 o'clock. Ali last year's players and those desiring tryouts take notice. For games with the Saints write the above address or call Webster 6079 and ask for Ed McCrathy. The wet condition of Washington Park prevented the Indianapolis Y. P. C.s from having their practice Wednesday evening, but it is requested that all football players of ability that are interested enould repor to Coach Ai Feeney Sunday, 10 a. m. at Washington Park. The following players please take notice: Floyd. McCarty, Danforth. C. Welch, Wohlhgjter. Joe Canning, McDonald. Hammitt. Olson. John Hopkins, Joe Hopkins. Pat Fox. John Trenck, Jr., ft. Welch. Zeller. Grannon. Royse. Duncan. JTevitt, Doer, Sylvester, Marks. H. Smock, £, Smock, F. Smock. Murchie Green and McGhee. Plenty of action is assured. The Cumberland football team has organlard lander anew management Games are wanted with State clubs in the 100-pound class. Write manager of football team. Cumberland. Ind. There will be a meeting Monday night. Coleman. Lisle and Gibson take notice. - Moose Basket Practice The Junior Order of Moose is organizing a basket-ball team for the coming season and will hold a practice tonight at South Side Turner Hall. Members of the organization desiring try-outs should report at 7:30. Y. M. S. Baseball The Y. M. S. baseball teatn is without a game for next Sunday. Any fast local team desiring a game call I>rexel 7621 and ask for Lawrence. An Important meeting will be held tonight at Volrath’s case at 8 o’clock.

AMERICAN LEGION BASKETTOURNEY National Meet to Be Held at ’Frisco Convention, A national basket-ball championship, with crack teams representing legion posts in all parts of the country, will be held as one of the major events on the athletic program to be staged during the American Legion's national convention in San Francisco. Oct. 15 to 19, legion national headquarters here announced today. Sacramento American Legion post, winners of the 1921 California State championship and contenders for the world’s A. A. U. title in 1922, are sure entrants in the legion cage tourney. Entries also are expected from Los Angeles post, Golden Gate post No. 40 of San Francisco, Boston. Mlnneapoolis, Kansas City, Denver and other legion posts.

PROGRAM OF ACTION AT FORT RING NEXT’WEEK O’Dowd, Mcllonald. Atherton and Mar* on Weekly Card At the Ft. Harrison arena next Tuesday, Mickey O’Dowd of Muncle and Red McDonald of Toledo will provide the attraction in the feature event of ten rounds. O'Dowd made a great impression with the Chicago fight fans when he met the Pacific Coast marvel. Ernie Goozeman. Reports of this engagement show each man scored two clean knockdowns in the course of their mill. Since his clean-cut victory at the post over Pete Macklin of St. Louis. McDonald has added four more victories to his record, defeating Eddie : Hovarth, Joe Pick. Kid Mansfield and I Willie Ames. Happy Atherton of this city will ! have a real task when he meets j Marvel Marz of Cincinnati. The record |of each man is identical, both ! graduating from the “simon pures” | one year ago. Three four-round prelims will complete the card. 36 ROUNDS OF BOXING DOWNTOWN ON SEPT. 17 Thirty-six rounds of boxing will he giver, on the Washington A. C. card at [.Tomlinson Hall Sept. 17. Steve Harj ter is matchmaker. Ray Hahn, State amateur Itghtj weight, will appear in one of the ten I round bouts against a strong oppon- | ent. Happy Atherton will battle Maxie Epstein over the eight-round route. Merle Alte, amateur feather star, will clash with Heinie McDuff in six rounds. Other bouts will be announced later. FAIR HORSESHOE RESULTS In the horseshoe pitching contests at the State fair this morning the boys' singles event was won by Walter George of Kokomo. Raymond Dyer of Rush County was runner-up. In the men's doubles the Wells County team composed of West**Irey and Roy Murray won. The Fountain County team was second. TWC MORE PIN LEAGUES | Two more bowiing leagues gos. away Thursday night on their schedule for the season. Capitol No. 2 and the Duesenberg loops were the circuits tc take their first, smack at the pins, both rolling at the Capitol Alleys. Twelve squads started in the big Capitol loop. The Duesenbergs is a factory league with four teams.

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Battle Riversides in Sunday Game

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STANDING (LEFT TO RIGHT), S. W. DEAN. PRESIDENT SPADES ATHLETIC CLUB; BILL FRANCIS, PITCHER; BOTTIN, OUTFIELD; W. NOFFKE, COACH; ABEL, OUTFIELD; HALL, CATOfIEJFt. KNEELING (LEFT TO RIGHT). ROSS, OUTFIELD; WUELFING, INFIELD; W. KOELLINtI, MANAGER. SIITTING (LEFT TO RIGHT). NORDHOLT, INFIELD; SCHONECKER, OUTFIELD} PLUMMER, INFttELD; TARRANT, INFIELD. IN FRONT, JIMMY THERIAC, MASCOT. WRAY, COLLINS AND CAMPBELL NOT IN THE PICTURE.

The Spades A. C. baseball squad battles the Riversides at Washington Park Sunday aftemocn for the city independent championship in The Times tournament finals. The Spades team is an east side aggregation. Bill Francis will oppose Johnny Schmutte on the mound. Schmutte Is to get a tryout with the Indians. Eighteen teams started in The Times tourney and two survive after several weeks of games. A thriller contest is promised and both clubs

BEST OF CITY AMATEUR TALENT IN BIG CONTEST Twenty-Five Sandlot Players'Nominated by Managers to Compete for Free Trip to Cleveland Oct, 1, Twenty-five players, the vertf eream of the amateur baseball talent of Indianapolis, have been nominated in The Times contest to decide the best amateur player in this city'. The selection proeess has started already, because only the names of the best performers have been sent in by the various managers. The contest closes Saturday morn- [ ———

Ing. Then It will bo up to the judges selected by The Times to weed out the contestants. According tow&resent plans the first try-out will be held a wek from Sunday. In the morning. The final winner. as every one knows by this time, will go to Cleveland at the expense of The Times on Oct 1. The Cleveland Trip There he will have one groat time and compete In the national selection contest to determine the very best amateur ball tosser In the country. Big league scouts, players and managers will give the entrants"’the "once over.” The winner at Cleveland will get a free trip to tfie world's series. Every section of Indianapolis is represented in the list of players that was in this office Friday morning. Included therein are many of the Known luminaries of the amateur ranks. The managers of the teams in this city have done very well. Th£y have exercised good Judgment in selecting the players. The strict, amateur rule has excluded the semi-pro stars aaS in almost all instances the managers have not tried to slip over players who alu not come up to the regulations of the contest. List of Entries The complete list to date in the order of their receipt in this ,knce is as follows: r. D. Sandtdge. Postoffice Athletic Association: Vern Bane. Arsenal Reserves E<' ward Stader. Arsenal Reserves. M V Richardson, American Control Life: C. R. Weise, American Central f.ife; William Burnett. Sahara Grotto; Herman Adam. Sahara Grotto; William Torrant. Brookgide Odd Fellows Carl Huesing’. Centennary: Albert Rabo Riversides; Hank Gordon. Riversides. Orla Printers; Kalp Hall. Spades; Cnrtls Wray Spades: Henry Torrence, Public Savings and Trust: Bill Whaley. Public Savings and Trust: Harold Harmeson. Map!-tor. Marons; Carlyle Ewing, Mapleton Maroons; Joseph Kcllv. V M. S.i/Rube Wllbtu Da Molays Todd Wilbur. De Molavs Morris Henson Lincoln A. A.: Abe Needleman. Boys' Club: David Klor. Boys' Club: Harold Geisel, Behloss Bros. Amateur Double header The Clifton Americans will play the Marion Cardinals Sunday at Riverside Park diamond No. 3 in a doubleheader. All players are requested to be at the grounds at 12:30. Wilson, Brennan. Kirk, Dodson, Kellar, Long. Marshlno, Littlejohn, Qriffim Hensley, Ritter, Sample and Epperson take notice.

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will have plenty of rooters present. The game will start at 3 o’clock. Be there! Any seat 25 cents. Choice seats to the early fans. If the grandstand fills late comers will have to sit in the bleachersSpades rooters will be on >he third base side and Riverside rooters on the first base side. The event is open to the public. No reserved seats. Fans who are not followers of either team are welcome and are urged to attend and see the rival nines perform*

CHAMPS DECIDED 111 FINAL GAMES Saturday Big Day for City Association Teams, The City Amateur Association champions in Class AA and Class A will be decided Saturday in the final games to be held at Washington Park and Pennsy Park. Both contests will start at 3 o’clock. At Washington Park the Brookside Odd Fellows, champions last year, will meet the Fa!rbanke-Morse aggre gatlon for the Class AA title At Pennsy the Morris St. and First Baptist teams, two Sunday school nines which look "a be very evenly matched, will get together for the Class A championship. The admission at both parks will be thirty-five cents for adults and ten cents for children. At Washington Park the boxes will be fifty cents. .Schuyler and Sahm will umpire the Brookside-Falrbanks contest and Harrington and Fisse the Morris St.-First Baptist fray. ''Need a Catcher? Arthur Quedsser, star catcher of the Mapleton Maroons and who is being developed for a future Job with the Indianapolis A. A. team, is open for an engagement Sunday. Address 2548 N. Capitol Ave., or phone Randolph 0518.

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FIRPO’S CHANGE DEPENDS ON HIS STAYING POWER Experts Agree Luis Is in Shape, but Doubt His Punch-Taking Ability, By HENRY FARRELL, United Press Staff Correspondent ATLANTIC CITY, N. J., Sept. 7. Every one who has seen Luis Firpo in training for his fight with Jack Dempsey in New York a week from tonight believes he is In an excellent 4 condition. . He has no surplus weight as he Carried in the Brennan and Willard fights. He has a good color. His eyes are clear and snappy and there are unmistakable signs of vitality and power in his limbs, arms, shoulders and chest. Shows Improvement His boxing and ring work may be as poor as some of his critics have stressed, but he is working* better than he did in training for his fights with Brennan and Willard. .. If the mind of the big South American could be read and if some aeeeptable test of courage could be applied to his "heart" those who want to wager money on ther'champtonshlp fight would be better guided than they are now. Most of the experts who have come to see Firpo in the final stages of his training have gone away with the opinioq that his chance for winning the championship depend almost entirely upon how much he can take and how many times he will come up. Says He Was Blinded It is being said that he wanted to quit along about the seventh round of the Brennan fight when it was going badly for him. Jle says, however; that he was almost blinded by the flow of blood in his eyes from a bad cut on the forehead. Others doubt the gameness of the Argentine because he took so much precaution after Willard had rocked him with a left hand punch in one of the rounds of the fight”l wash’t expecting a left hand punch and I would have been foolish to expose myself to another one. I had to slow up and fight a different way." Firpo explained.

BASEBALL MANAGER DIES Dots "Miller, Former Major Player, Succumbs at Saranac Lake. Bn l imes Specie l SARANAC LAKE, N.Y., Set. 7. — John B. (Dots) Miller, until very recently manager of the San Francisco club of the Coast Lei gue. is dead here of tuberculosis. He had come here from the West In hopes of recovering from the malady. Miller was thirteen years in the majors, with Pirates, Cards and Phillies.

Grand Circuit Results

Hartford. Conn., Sept, 6 2:06 Pare; three heat* purse 51,000. Edward Marque, b g (Murphy) ... 1 1 1 Bonnie Del, blk m (I.oomis) ... 2 2 2 The Bengtl. b c (Wilson) 33 3 Tunei—2<o4 ‘A . 2:06 V. 2 .09N. The Charter Oak Stake; 2:12 trot: three heats: purse 510,000: Pearl Benboe. br m , Murphy) ... 1 6 1 Taurida, b m , Fleming I ....... 2 1 2 Mrs YorUes, b in , Cox, 4 2 3 Eleanor Guy, b m tLoomis) 33 4 Ma'or lljser also ra. Time—2 .04 l 4 , 2:04 Vs 2:04 V. 2:08 Pace, three heat-; purse 54,000: Wllllngton. b k (Snow) .... 1 1 2 Lambert Todd, big (Murphy, ... 2 2 1 Dixie Direct, b m (White, 33 3 King Abbie also started. Time—2:os. 2:04L. 2:04 Vi. M a pled on Grid Mooting The Mapleton footb;yll team will hold an organization meeting Mondaynight at the Mapleton clubhouse, Thirty-Fourth St- and Capitol Ave., preparatory to a practice sea .so nr All members of la/jt team and those wishing tryouts are invited.

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HARD DAYS FOR. LOURING TRIBE Indians Again Fall Before Columbus Senators, Bp Times Special COLUMBUS, Ohio, Sept. 7.—lt has been tough pickings for the Indians in this town. Two games played and two games lost. Third of the series this afternoon. The Senator pitching staff caught the Tribesmen in a hitting slump the first two battles and the Columbus team sailed through on the long end. The score Thursday was 5 to 2. Manager Hendricks would have wagered his wardrobe the Indians would win behind Jess Petty Thursday, but (he veteran Jake Northrop, former Hoosier, had one of his bright days on the mound and kept the Tribe hits scattered. Burwell was defeated Wednesday and Petty Thursday, and they are the Tribe mainstays. Three more games remain to be played hefe, one today and two Saturday. It’s a gloomy outlook for the boys from Circle City, Ind. The Senators' big Inning Thursday was the fourth when three runs scored. Rain fell while the locals were batting and they chased three men a sound while Petty was struggling with a wet bail. Time finally was called and the game delayed forty minutes.

In Secret By United Setrs LONDON. Sept. 7.—Complete secrecy surrounded a trial of a mile and three-quarters Thursday for his equine nibs, Papyrus. Bar Gold, his stablemate, who is to he his traveling companion to America, and other horses of his clique ran with him. The time of the try-out was' kept secret, hut those in the know were Jubilant in a conservative. British way. and Newmarket correspondents said his form was wonderful and practically cinches the St. Leger.

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JESS ATHEY Jess Athey was elected captain of this season's Femdale football team at a recent meeting. He is a half back and has played the last three years with the west tide team.

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COLUMBUS AB R H O A B Davis, 3b 5 1 1 1 1 o ; Murphy, rs 4 0 2 2 0 0 i Sehreiber ss .... 2 0 0 3 5 0 ; Grimes, lb 4 0 0 10 1 0 i Sullivan. If 3 1 1 3 0 0 Elliott, c 3 2 2 0 1 0 Baird. 2b 3 1 1 4 3 1 Brooks of 4 0 33 0 0 Northrop, p .... 3 0 0 1 3 O Totals 31 6 10 27 14 1 INDIANAPOLIS AB R H O A E Christenbury. rs . 4 0 1 3 0 0 Stoking, ss 4 0 1 I 1 0 Rehg, If 4 12 2 10 Brown, cf 4 O 2 3 0 O Krutgar. c 3 1 1 0 0 0 Whelan, lb 4 0 0 8 1 0 I Janvrin. 2b 4 0 1 0 3 0 ’ Campbell, 3b .... 4 0 1 1 1 1 Petty, p 3 0 0 1 3 1 •Kirke 1 0 0 0 0 0 Totals 35 2 9 24 ©• 3 •Batted for Petty in ninth. Indianapolis 100 000 001—2 Columbus .. A 001 301 00*—5 Two base hits—Davis. Krueger. Threebase hit—Brown. Stolen base—Brooks. Saeriflees—Sehreiber. Elliott, Baird. Double plays—Petty to Sicking to Whelan; Rehg to Krueger: Sehreiber to Baird to Grimes. Left on bases—Columbus. 8 Indianapolis. 7. Bases on balls—Off Petty, 2: off Northrop 1 Struck out—By Petty, 3 Hit by pitched ball—By Petty. Northrop Umpires—Daly and Killian. Time—--1:28.

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HARNESS RACERS AT STATE FAIR TRY HEAVY CARD Classy, Well-Matched Fields Meet in Variety of Friday Events, The harness racers at the State Fair were to try it again today with the first event, an unfinished race left over from Wednesday, scheduled for 12:30 p. m. The seven events on Thursday’s card, postponed by the rain, were to be decided today with the final verdict up to the weather-, man, who has been in terrible temper all week. The track was heavy. The horseman stake and three-year-old trot were to be finished this afternoon. They have been hanging over from Wednesday. Asa special feature the match race between Sanardo driven by Pop Geers, and Johnny Quirk, driven by Fred Egan, was to hold the attention of harness enthusiasts. A $5,000 purse was at stake. The 2:05 pace, 2:15 trot, 2:08 pace, and 2:10 pace were other events on the program. Stirring competition was expected in all of the .races as some evenly matched performers were to face the starter. There was plenty of class on the card with a number of Grand Circuit steppers rarin’ to go. NATIONAL COLORED NET CHAMP IS BACK HOME To Present Cups to Local Meet Winners at Colored "Y” Tonight. Edgar G. Brown, the colored national tennis champion, is baek in Indianapolis after successfully defending his title in Chicago. Brown will present the cups to the winners of the recent local colored tumey at the colored Y. M. C. A. tonight. / Brown, while gone, won the national colored title at Chicago, the New York State title at New York City, the Eastern iitle at Baltimore, the Chicago city honors and Illinois State title at Chicago. He will go to the West Indies and South America this winter through the courtesy of the-Thomas E. Wilson Sporting Goods Company of Chicago, where he -will participate in a number of tourneys. LONG HITS BEAT A. B. C.S Monarchs Take First Game by Score of 7 to 4. By Times Special KANSAS CITY. Mo.. Sept. 7.—A fourth inning in which five runs were scored proved the downfall of the Indianapolis A. B. C.s here against the Kansas City Monarchs Thursday in the first game of the series. The score was 7 to 4. The winners bunched a number of long hits off Cooper, who was not supported any too well. In the pinches by his mates.