Indianapolis Times, Volume 35, Number 197, Indianapolis, Marion County, 27 December 1922 — Page 6

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Removai of Baseball Park to Fall Creek Site ls Stili ‘Up in thè Air’

IBS SEEKS FUNSI' OPIMO! Oli PROPOSITI |f You Want Grounds Changed, Teli Us-lf Not, Te!! Us About That, Too. BOOSTERS TO HAVE SAY Chief Talking Point for Washington Park Is Its Centrai Location. The new park project of thè IndianS.OÌ9 Baseball Club regarding thè leasing of city park land at Northwestern Ave. and Fall Creek waa stili In an unsettled state today. The proposltion broached to thè ball Club officiala that they pay thè taxes ©n thè land in addition to rent did not ©rouse enthusiasm on their part. It : vas tinderstood today, however, that | this dlfficulty probably can be lroned ’ ©ut to thè satisfaction of all con- ; cerned, but another angle has been j jlven thè Project and lt cornea from thè fans. Many Tribe followera do not care to j ©ee thè baseball plant transferred to ' thè Fall Creek sito and others are enthusiastic about lt. So there you are. Two sldes ilning up, one known *ua thè Washington Park standpatters. consistlng of fans who prefer thè park ! remalo where lt ls. thè other side ; boostlng thè proposed removai to Northwestern Ave. The centrai location of Washington Park alway3 has been popuiar with thè daily cash customer. especlally thè | fans from thè south side, east side ar.d | west side. North side fans r.aturally ; favor thè reniovai of thè park north. t Objections to tho present Washlng- j ton Park consist of thè 6moke screen : and cinder monaco that frequenti* - cloud thè atmosphere, but many fans eay they prefer to stand for thè smoke occasionally rather than take thè long- j er trip to Fall Creek. The ball club has a lease from thè j Big Four Railroad calllng for four or Cve more eeasons at thè present location. It ls understood Presldent William <?. Smith ls lncllned to leave thè ques tlon up to thè Tribe boosters, and lf much objectlon ls heard agalnst removai he'll accede to thè wlshes of . thè majority and let thè ball park rem&in on W. Washington St. The Times ls wllllng to acta a clearing house on thè ball park ques tion, and fans carlng to express their views on thè subject are requested to write their oplnlons to thè Times sporta department. So there you are a gain. If you ; want thè ball park removed to Fall Creek, teli thè Times. If you are a Washington Park standpatter and object to thè park removai, teli thè Times. Write your opinione briefly. j

BASKET BALL QUIZ W Fosforee Time LAmit It thè referee calla a foul Just aa thè tlmekeeper blows hia whistle announclng thè end of thè game, shall thè opposing team have thè right to try a free throw? If thè foul Is declared simultaneously with thè blowing of thè whistle. timo shail be allowed for a free throw. Extra Perlod Ts there any definite length of thè extra perioda made necessary to break a tle score? An extra perlod is a flve-minute extenslon of playing tlme neceasary ''to break thè tle. As many extra perioda aa ls necessary to break thè tle can be played. At thè end of each perlod thè ball is put In play at thè center Backboard In laylng out a basket-ball court, should thè backboard which holds thè basket be so hung that it is in bounds? If a court is properly laid out in accordane© with th© rules th© backtoard is in bounds. JUMBO STIEHM RETURNS TO MAYO SANITARIUM Indiana University Athletic Director May Undergo New Operation. Bv Time Special BLOOMINGTON, Ini, Dee. 27. Athletic Director E. O. Stlehm of Indiana University, accompanled by hls veite, left Bloemlngton Tuesday for th© May© brothera eanltarlum In Rochester, Mlnn. Stlehm may have to undergo another operation for stomaeh troubl©. Last fall, just before thè football season opened, thè big I. U. was forced to give up his coachliig and undergo an operation for ulcer of thè stomach. He has been In cbarge of thè athletic department at Indiana slnce that tlme for several weeks and it was thought he was on th© road to completo recovery’. City Three-Cnshions Moor© and Tarleton .each shootlng fbr 45, meet at thè Board of Trade tonight in a city handicap three-cush-lon tou#ney match. Cooper defeated Clark Tuesday night, 43 to 29.

Cile Champion Willie Hoppe Tells How He Carne Back

Bv WILLIE HOPPE, World’s Greatest Biljlard Player HOW dld I pulì my comeback agalnst thè world’s best bilHard playcrs? Bear with me and I wlll try to explaln. Aster holding thè title for years I was finaliy beaten by young Jake Schaefer. Wliile I always train carefullv for my big matches, I feel that overconfìdence and lack of condition brought about my defeat. For thè past year I conditioned myself for thè ordeal ot meeting thè Ave greatest players In thè world, with thè regaining of my title as thè goal. I accomplished lt. Paying attention to my diet was thè first start In my campalgn to regaln thè 18.2 bllliard Championshlp. Welght had been slowly creepIng on me and lt didn’t help my game. Rilliards Severe Strain No doubt a great many lovers of sport will be surprised when I express thè bellef that there ls a greater mental and physical strain to bllllards than any other sport. In a big bililard match there ls terrific strain on thè nerves. It burns up a lot of energy to slt stili in a chair whlle your opponent

EVARiSCOMMENTS ONALL-AMERICAN pira ut cip Expresses Surprise at Failure of Kirk, Brilliant Michigan End, to Land First Team. By BILLT E TMVS When one football expert pits him self against thè world at large. hi selectiona for an AU-Amerlcan team are sure to meet with much criticism Walter Camp has selected a very fine eleven as America's best but lt is certaln to diaw unklnd word? Troni many quarters. Critica In thè Middle West wlll pick thè team to pieces he cause of thè failure of several stars from that section to be placed. Seven of Camp’s first team are from tiie East. Tbree are from thè Middle West and one from thè coast. The South lsn’t given any representation. The fact that eastem football dld not demonstrate any great superbir ity over thè other section of thè eoun try ls not golng to help justify thc selectlon of seven eastern men. Camp’s failure to name thè late Bernle Kirk of Michigan on thè first team Comes as a surprise. Kirk was one of thè best ends The “Big Ten" produce.l in years. It was felt certaln he would be selected. Most of thè critics picked Kirk and Muller as thè ends. Camp givo Taylor of Annapolis thè preferente over Kirk. Placing McMlllen of Illinbla on thè tlilrd team will not meet with thè approvai of many of thè Middle West critics. McMlllen was thè class of thè western guards and it was believed that Camp would surely find a place for him on his first team. Weller of Nebraska, a wonderful tackle, was entirely overlooked in Camp’s rating. Hack of Pittsburgh, a sterling guard, falled to get mention. John Thomas of Chicago is placed at fullback. Undoubtedly Camp saw Thomas In action agalnst Princeton. Baslng his opinion on that game, Thomas was bound to be placed on thè first team. No football player In thè history of thè sport aver plaved a greater game than did Thomas agalnst Princeton. He scored thè three touchdowns made by Chicago. Guilian of Brown was favored by most of thè eastern critics for a guard on their All-American team. Camp places hlm on hi. thlrd team. The only mention thè South pets is Bomar at end and Barron at fullback on thè second team. Red Roberts of Centro ls entirely overlooked this year. Camp places Full Back 1 oclte of lowa at quarter. A majority of thè “Big Ten” experts did thè sanie thlng In order to place John Thomas at full. However, when Locke was considered as a full back, all thè western experts gave him preference over Thomas. Camp has selected three mighty fine teams. However, It’s tho sanie old story when thè opinion of one man is subniitted against thè football experts of thè country. It can't be dono and eseape criticism.

CAMP’S SELECTIONS

First Elerren TI. —Taylor, Annapolls. T,—Treni. Princeton. G,—Schwab: I-alayett. Garbiseli, West Polnt. G. —Hr.bbard, Harvard T,—Thurman. Pennsylvania. K. —Muller, California. Q. —Eocke, lowa. H. —Kaw. Comcll. Tf.—Kipke, Michigan. F. —John Thomas. Chteajro. geeond Eleven E. —Kirk, Michipan. T.—Waldorf. Syracuse. G. —Cross, Yale. C.—Bouser, Pittsbursrh. G. Setron. W. Virfrinsa. T.—Neldiimrer. Dartmouth. E. Bomar, Vanderbllt. Q — Smythe. Westt Polnt. v H. —Morrison, California. H.—Owen, Harvard. F. —Baxron. Geòrgia Teeh, Third Kleven E.—Kont. Wnehinpton and Jefferson. Xe—Belo w, Wisconsin. , G. —MeMUlen, Illinois. C Peterson. Nebraska. G. —Dicklnson, Princeton. T.—Gulian, Brown. E, —Kadesky. lowa. Q.—Uteritz. Michigan. Yale. H. —Rarchet, Annapolta. F. —Castner, Notre Dame.

Basketball Results

College Franklin, 37; Shelbyville Elks, IS. Butler, 35; Detroit CentraJ “Y,” 16. Wabash, 102; Columbus (Ga.) “Y,” Armour Post, American Legion, 23; hlcago TJ., 18. High School Anderjon, 56; Montmorend, 4?. Vince!nes. 40; Centralia (Ili ) 19. Arcaima., 28; Tipton, 22.

ns up point aster point. . arm. IVhen performing at thè table you | While I always try to keop In constantly aware that thè slight- j KOO(1 shaP e I always figure on a miscue may ruin your chance. 1 ’ u must concentrate not only on i month of Intensive training prior o ì shot you are making, but those a big match. u are planning to make. by proper I m strong for walking. ss o n

runs up point aster point. When performing at thè table you are constantly aware that thc sìightest miscue may rulli your chance. You must concentrate not only on thè shot you are making, but those you are planning to make, by proper positicning of thè ivories. Then again, thè muscles of thè artn must be strong yet supp’e. It is some strain to stand it at thè table for a half hour or more while

H. A. C. DIRECTOR AFTER BOXING MEET WITH CINCY Ijpps in Ohio City to Arrango Ixiather Pusher Toumey. George W. Lipps, physical director of thè Hoosler Athletic Club, accompanied bv Mrs. Lipps, left Tuesday for a brlef visit In Cincinnati. While In that city Mr. Lipps expeets to make arrangements with thè cincinnati Gyronaslum and Athletic Club for a dual boxlng meet between thè boxer of thè H. A. C. and thè C. G. and A. C. FRINII MEÉTS MISSOURI TEAM Central College to Play Baptists Friday. Bv Times Special FRANKLIN, Ind., Dee. 27.—Frank lln College basket-ball team play lts second vacation time game on Friday night bere at thè high sohool gym meeting thè Central College live < f bavette, Mo. The Missouri team ls on a bamstomilng trip. Central Col lege is very much an unknown quanity a round bere, but this much ls known —that thè outflt is a member of thè Missouri Intercollegiato Athleiic Assoclation and l;ust s*ason won six and lost <-:ght garnes in that league of teams. From tho looks of thlngs now it scema that thè former Franklin High Sohool st trs have th* inside track on thè Baptist Ave. Vandlver and C. Ftiddle starred in thè victory Tuesday night o%er thè ShelhyvlUe Elks. The Baptists doublet! thè scoro, v.lnn:ng 37 to 18. ELWOOD WANTS GAME The Nash Elwood Ave of Elwood, Tnd., wlll meet thè University of filinola Friday at Elwood. Tho Elwood team defeatol tho Kokomo Kords Christmas Day. Al to 28. For garnes write C. C. Bruco, Elwood, Ind. Want Net Game. The Spados Midgets destre games in thè 14-year-old class. Cali Webster 7743 and ask for Jim.

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BUD TAYLOR Fistio fans of Indianapolis are going to see their State bantie favorite. Bud Taylor, of Terre Haute, in action at Tomlinson Hall New Year's afternoon. He is to meet Bennie Vogel, liard-hitting Milwaukee boy. in one of three ten-round bouts on thè day’s card. Taylor recently engaged in a sensational flght with Pai Muore and opinion was dlvided regarding thè winner. Ed Smith, noted Chicago boxing critic, Taylor won because of his better punching and aggressive tactlcs. In other bouts here New Year’s Lcuie Lavell n\eets Jack Elliott and K. O. Cireus takes on MicKey O’Dowd.

THE IKDIANAPOLTS TIMES

WILLIE HOrPH you are making a big run. It is a terrific strain on thè muscles of tho

Attention — Baseball Fans Presldent W. C. Smith of thè Indians ls wllllng to permlt tho fans to enter in*.o thè ball park removai question. The Times ls wllllng to collect and file oplnlons on thè proposed removai. Some fans favor romoval, others prefer Washington Park remaln where lt ls. Do you favor removai to Fall Creek? Do you favor tho present site? Your name Your addrese Tf you care to explaln your opinion, write briefly and address to Times Sport Department. Otherwlse merely unswer tho above questiona and mali to Times.

WABASH, OMARS HEREON JAN. 13 Controversy Over Tomlinson Hall Permlt ls Settled. The controversy over thè Jan. 18 contai of Tomlinson Hall was settled today at a conferme between repre sentatives of Butler College, thè Omar lndependent team and city board of works and lt was announced thè Ornar and Wabash College team will clash In thè hall that night. Butler College authorlties rellnquished their rights to thè hall con cessimi for Jan. 13 and sald their homo game with Wabash would be played here Feb. 24. The Jan. 13 date ha heen a bone of contentlon for some time and only recently" Butler was offtclally awnrded thè permlt over thè protest of thè Ornar. Basket-ball fans have not taken sldes in tho matter and they are glad it has been settled to thè satisfaction of all interested. BOSTON COLLEGE COACH KNOCKS CAMP’S CHOICE Bemoans Presence of Tliurman, Penn State, on Mythica! All-American. Bv United Press BOSTON. Deo. 27.-T7critlclsm of Walter Camp’s all-Amerlcan eleven was made freoly by Coach Cavanaugh of Boston College, who bemoans tho presenco of Thurman of Penna as tackle. Thurman. Cavanaugh clalms, was guilty of “abominatile conduct,” end banished from thè Penn-Alabama game.

H. S. Net Gamos Tonight

Teehnicat at Martlnsville Cathedral and Alnmni at flt Jne Hall. Jefferson (Lafayette) at Franklin. Huntington at Kokomo Klwood at Rushville. ffartford Slty at Marion. I'eru at T.ogansport. West Newton at Mooresvtlle. Smith Hits firn Baila r ìy United .Veto* NEW YORK, Dee. 27.—Jeff Smith, thè wandering middleweight, is on thè hike aga-in. Recently retumed from New Orleans, he ls now sottlng forth for Atchlson, Kan., to flght Fay Kelser on Labor day. Then he goes to Portland, Maine, to meet Eddie Tremblay. Merriken Is Cuo Winner In a State throe-cushion tourney match at thè Occidental parlor Tuesday night, Merrlken defeated Trusler, 50 to 26. A run of four by thè winner was high. Cooler and Ilenning were to meet thls afternoon. Fair Playis and Pals Club The Fair Plays wlll meet thelr old rivals, thè Pals Club, Wednesday night in a curtain raiser to thè Y. M. H, A. game. The game wlll start about 7:30 p. in. Chicago U Drops Game. CHICAGO, Dee. 27. —Chicago University basket-ball Ave lost its first game of thè season to thè Armour Post American Legìon team, 23 to 18. Saturtìay night Mapletons will go to New Palestine ,Or m game with thè New Palestine Zlons Miit of-town game are wanted. Addreàs 6V Jierkeley Court. %

arm. While I always try to keop In good shape, I always figure on a month of Intensivo training prior to a big match. I ani strong for walking, a nn exerclse. It must he a brlsk walk, with an occasionai jog of seventyfive yards at stated lntervals. I always limit myself to four or Avo miles.

ARMY AND NAVY GRID OFFiCIALS IN CONFERENCE Will Arrange Another Serics of Football Battles. Bv United Prcs ANNAPOLIS, Dee. 27.—Officiai of thè mlì'tary academy and thc naval academy wlll meet Ir. Piilladelphla tornorrow to cotifer on an agreement whereby thè annusi football game between two lnstltutlons wlll ho arranged for a perlod of year. The last agreement of three years endod with thè 1922 game in Phlladelphla ANOTHER MARCH THROUGH GEORGIA Wabash Overwhelms Columbus •Y’ Five, 102 to 11. Bv Times Special COLUMIU’S, 0n... Dee. 27. —The Wabash College hn.sket hall tiun of CrawfordHville, Ind., continuo to sweep ali opposltlon aslde In lt barnstormlng trip through tho South. The Hoosler Invader. completely swamped thè Columbus "Y" team bere Tuesday night in an overwhlmlng vlctory by a score of 102 to 11. The locai Vere helplcs before thè supnripr plav of thè wlnneru. It ls thè thiid game Wabash has won In thè South, lncludlng ri victory over Vanderhllt, and thè flfth win sìnce leavlng homo.

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A pair of Indian clubs, golf sticks, a ball and bat and a pair of dumbbells make up my training paraphernajla. I use thè dumbbell3 to develop thè muscles of thè arm. I swing thè Indian clubs to work on thè arma and stomach. I llke to play a little baseball, In which I confine my activlties to batting. It’s good for thè eye. Strong for Golf Golf, In moderatlon, I belleve, ls thè best single sport a bllliard player can take up. The swing keeps thè arnia and stomach toned up, thè puttlng on thè green makes for accuracy and thè playing of eighteen holes calla for plenty of walking. As In all othir sporta, coordlnatlon ls thè big thing In bllllards. It cannot be attalned without perfect condition. Once lt ls lost, lt ls most diffieult to regaln. Care as to what I eat, plenty of fresh air, just enough exerclse, plus a determination to win, made possibile my Ave successivo vlctoiies over tlie garoe’s greatest bllliard players—Schaefer, Conti, Horemans, Cochran nd Hagenlacker-—and with them, thè champlonship.

CARNEGIETEGH NEITERS INVADE STATETHIIRSDAY Meet De Pauw at Greencastle— Butler Opponents Friday at Tonilinson Hall. Camegie Tech buinps into lts first Indiana game at Greencastle on Thursday night with De Pauw. Tho Easterners on their trip through thè Middle ; West come to Indianapolis on Friday ■ to play Butler at Tomlinson Hall, j Eastern five game are always lnteresting, even lf Just to note thè differirne In styles of play. De Pauw is extremely fast this season and no doubt wlll givo thè Invader a great ; w-orkout. It ’s ih* only vacation game j for thè Mefhodists. Ì Butler plaved last night a* Detroit and h '. another contest tonight with tho Maumee Yacht Club at Toledo. With Thursday as a day of rest thè Pagemen tackle tho Tech outfit five at Tomlinson Hall. On Saturday Pag* wlll be sticking bis team up agalnst Ohicago ”I'," th* aggregatimi he uso,] to coach. Pat !iks to beat thè Ma roons and last sensori tumed thè trick In an early g-ime.

BUTLER WINS CONTEST AT DETROIT, 35 TO 16 Pagemen Meet Maumee Yacht Club al Toledo Tonight. Bv Times Special DETROIT, Dee. 27.—The Butler College basket-ball team of Indianapolis did not have much trouble with thè Detroit Central Y. M. C. A. here Tuesday night and won handlly, 35 to 16. The w'inners opened up an attack that thè “Y” team qould not stop. From here Butler goes to Toledo to meet thè Maumee Yacht Club tonight. WESTBADEN IH LESI FOR CIP Terms Offered for Spring Look Good to Indians. Indications today were that thè Indiana would do their spring training at West Baden, Ind. Authorlties there today submitted a proposition to thè Tribe officiala and Secretary Clauer said thè terms appeared satisfactory. Clauer sent thè details of thè terms to New York to Presldent W. C. Smith and thè Tribe owner is expected to make a decisimi shortly. Biloxl (Miss.) boosters want thè Tribesmen to pitch their spring camp there, but due to tho late start of thè playing season in 1923 it is believed West Baden has thè edge unless thè early spring weather in southern Indiana would he so had that it would interfere with outdoor praetlce. Manager Jack Hendrick eparted for Chicago today to spend a few of thè holldays with relative. He will be ready to enare that shortstop thè Tribe 1 on thè watch for if opportunity presenta itself. Pitcher Cecil Oausey wn not relegai mitright, ns reported recently. Owner Smith tumed him over to thè Baltimore International League team. NO GAMES THIS WEEK IN FRATERNAL LEAGUE De Molays Setting Pace in Thursday Night Circuit. There wlll he no Fratemal League games this w*ek as thè schedule commino* has left thè gap to enable thè teams to play out of town contests during tlie holldays. All of thè tennis In thè Circuit have games this week with difforent live. The first of thè Fraterna] card has been a success. The standing of thè clubs ls as follows: Won. I.ost. l'e Molar . 3 0 —i. !■ and CompaM . . . 2 Sahara Orotto . 1 t.rulins Gnn Club 0 4 In next woek’s g.nmcs thè Hquare and Compass five meets thè De Molays end tho Grotto piava thè Gun Club.

DEC. 27, 1922

GRIDGOAGHES Il RIE con IN NEW KORE Battles of Football Will Be Refought—Changes in Rules May Be Discusseti. Bu l nitrii Xrtcs NEW YORK, Dee. 27—The battles of thè gridiron fought a few weeks ago will be gone over again by thè football G. A. R.s thè coaches of thè famous American college teams in their annual meeting which begin3 Wednesday at thè Astor Hotel. Howard Jones of lowa and brother Tad of Yale will he present to Chat about thè how-come of lowa’s conquest at New Haven. Bill Roper, coach of Princeton, wlll have a chance to ehide Alonzo Stagg of Chicago, Tad Jones and Bob Fisher of Harv- i ard, all of w r hose teams were wbipped by thè Tigers. Fielding Yost of Michigan; Major Daily of West Point, recently relieved of his coaching duties; Gii Dobie of Cornell: D. K. Bible of Texa s A. and M., \Va Iter Camp, Johnny Heisman of Penn and many others will he present to discuss thè development of thè game and exchamge informatimi. The try for point rule may come in for criticism on thè ground that thè teams seldom tried for thè point from touchdown by any other method than thè kick which was customary under thè old rule, although thè scrimmaging resulted in many failures to add thè point, Glenn Warner of Penn and Hugo Bezdek of Penn State, whose teams are playing holiday games on thè west coast, will he missed from thè meeting. ‘Y’ LEADERS WIN DOUBLÉ HEADER BASKET CARD Defeat Mapletons and Tipton A. A. on Ixical Floor. The “Y” Leaders sliowed lots of pep and won two games Tuesday night at thè locai Y. M. C. A. floor. The entire squad of twelve men participated In thè doublé bill. The first half of thè evening entertainment was a victory over tlie Mapletons, a locai Ave. The '■■■ore was 47 to 14. Greensburg and Kohrman were thè heavy scorers for thè winners in this fray. In thè main attraction thè Tipton A. A. was defeated 37 to 21 In a hard game. Barnurn and Starbuck proved thè big point getters for thè locala thè former dropping in seven baskets and Starbuck five. Shymer was best for Tipton and counted five field goals.