Indiana Palladium, Volume 9, Number 2, Lawrenceburg, Dearborn County, 26 January 1833 — Page 2

Among me French Generate and oSIcers who went at two o'clock this morning to witness the breaking of the ground were the Dukes of Orleans and Nemoura. At 4 they returned to Berchcm to take some repose, hdf famished. Tho provisions ia the villige were ex.hiusted,and tho princes found nothing but coarse brown bread, called "dog's bread," which they ate with a good appetite, at the house of M. Delnrvcn, where th?y slept, and where miny Generals and other officers were glad to procure a gtraw pallet. It would hive been easy to cause the gates of the city, about two miles distant, to he opened, but the hunger of the princes wa3 not sufficient cause to give any alarm to the Dutchmen. The formation of the trenches under the noses of the Dutch garrison has been a cause of merriment to the French soldiers who to-day, when they saw a stray shot coming, jumped into the trenches and let it fly over. Few of them have been, as yet, killed. They are said to bo now at work in the direction of the T'.du Kiel, which

it is their intention to possession of, prio- " itself. , During the Tete de Flandi

dyke opposite th

obstacles by inur.u

silence, or to take " -'. .tk on the citadel Juf :h troops at the Up portion of the ol in order to throw

;n, in the way of the

French soldiers, who had arrived in the

morning at Burchr, in order to attack that fort. Water is the Dutch weapon. IRELAND. Destruction of a whole Family. We have received (says the Dublin Evening Mail) the following extract of a letter from Wexford: "The civilized county of Wexford has presented a scene worthy of ranking with Scullaboguc. On Thursday night, a large party surrounded and set fire to the "house of a man named Haddock, within

eight miles of the town of Wexford. There were in the liouse, Maddock, his wife, a son and daughter grown up, and two children, together, with two policemen, who had been placed there for protection, it having been burned before in August last. The alleged cause was Maddock having taken some ground over a former occupant. The inmates were disturbed by the flames and made no resistance, thinking it hopeless, as the numbers outside were great, and the house on firo in every part. Of the two policemen who first rushed out, one named Wright, was shot dead; the other escaped. The mother and daughter were shot through tho heart; the son wIjo still lives, but almost hopeless, he was shot through the breast and shoulder joint, and left for dead, and the father was likewise left senseless and for dead, most barbarously mangled in

the head. His case, I may saw is hopeless.

speech near two hours in length. Before

any question was taken, on motion 01 iur.

Blacy, the Senate aaiourncci.

In tho Home of Representatives, Mr. VcrpUnck from the Committee of Ways and Means, reported a bill making approprations for the support of tho army for the year 1S33, which was read twice and committed to a Committee of tho Whole on the State of the Union. Mr. Stewart submitted a resolution directing the Committee on Roads and Canals to report a bill, in accordance with the recommendations of the President ot the United States in his first Message to Congress, for the distribution of the surplus revenue, after the payment of the public debt, among tho several States, according to their representation, to bo applied in aid cf Internal Improvements and Education. Mr. S. moved that tho resolution be hid on the table and printed. Mr. Wilde moved tlin nnf!finn nf consideration, and the

House refused to consider the resolution yeas 49, nays 111. A discussion arose upon the third reading of the bill authorizing the President to change the location of land offices, which was arrested by the arrival of the hour of one, when tho House went into Committee of tho Whole on tho state of the Union, upon the tariff bill Mr. Wayne in the Chair. Mr. Kennon, who was entitled to tho floor, addressed the Committee nearly an hour in opposition to the bill. Mr. Choato then spoko about an hour and a Inlf and against the general principles of the bill, and was followed by .Mr. Gilmore in support of its provisions, who addressed the Committee almost an hour. Mr. McKennon then moved the Committee rise which was carried, and the House adjourned.

lands to a sum that would rc-Imbutsa the Government for its expenses, and Mr. Clay's plan to make money out of them for distribution among the States. Mr. Black read and commented on the parts of tho President Message which bore on this point, and bestowed tho highest encomiums on the wisdom, justice, and foresight of the President in his judicious and patriotic recommendations on this subject. Globe.

January 17. In the Senate, yesterday, a Message was received from the President of the United States, transmitting copies of his Proclamation, tho Ordinance of South Carolina, and various other documents connected with the subject of nullification. After the Message was read, Mr. Grundy moved that it be referred, together with the accompanying documents, to the Committee of the Judi

ciary. Mr. Calhoun rose, (apparently under

deep excitement,) and in a short and vehement speech, contested some of the statements and views contained in the Message. Mr. Forsyth said a few words, particularly in reply to an allusion made by Mr. Calhoun, to the case of Georgia and the Supreme Court. The remarks of Messrs. Calhoun and Forsyth, will be given to morrow.1

The whole subject was then referred to the

POSTAGE ON NEWSPAPERS. Much has recently been said on the subject of newspaper postage; and the opinion seems to have pretty generally obtained, that ns the revenue arising from this source (as will as many other sources) is no longer

needed in the support of Government, it ought to be forthwith abolished. Why, say tho approvers of the plan, do you not see that a great barrier to the progress of intelligence, among that class of people for whom

it is most needed, will bo thus moved? that

the poor man, to whom a public journal is almost as necessary as his breakfast, will be relieved of a heavy burden? Yes, but have

a care, mends, lest while you are saving at

tho tap, the bung be open; with duo detfer-

ence to your better judgments, wo humbly

beg leave to suggest that there may be another side to tho question.

That the location of a newspaper in any

town, is an advantage to tho people thereof,

we presume will not bo denied. JNow the patronage that any country newspaper, be

its intrinsic merits what they may, can obtain, will not render it competent to rival

the standard city papers, inside, &c; for

very few can ever expect to command a

great circulation in tho city, not having it

in' their power to present mucli that would be novel to the city reader; while on the other hand many of the city papers depend

almost entirely upon their country circulation. By abolishing the postage on newspapers, therefore, you bring, for instance, the Philadelphia Courier, a family paper

somewhat more than twice the size of our

own sheet, into a town on precisely the

same terms that most papers of our size

(and some considerably smaller) are pub

lished; and it will require no very acute

perceptions to discover in what direction the tide of patronage will naturally flow. Smashing work would be made among the

country newspapers, or we are mistaken.

or no, is not known."

Congressional.

Committee on the Judiciary; and, on motion of Mr. Grundy, 3,000 copies of the Message

The children escaped, whether by accident and Documents were ordered to bo printed.

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iiio oeudiu rfsumeu uiu consideration 01

the Land Bill, and the amendment pro

posed by the Committee on Public Lands. Mr. Black opposed the bill and supported tho amendment, in a speech near an hour

and a half in length. The subiect was

then postponed to this day, Mr. Grundy being entitled to the floor. A short time was

spent in the consideration of Executive business, after which, the Senate adjouned.

ANALYSIS OP PROCEEDINGS. January 10, 1833. In the Senate, yesterday, Mr. Smith, from the Commilree on Finance, reported a bill remitting the duties on certain sculptured marble, imported by the Philadelphia Exchange Company. Several private bills were reported from Committees, and others of a like character passed stages. The resolution offered by Mr. Tipton, on Monday, was agreed to. The resolupon offered on the same day by Mr. Calhoun, calling on the

President to lay before the Senate copies of

his Proclamation and of the Ordinance of

the State of South Carolina, &,c. then came

up. Mr. King did not intend to enter into any discussion upon this subject, at this

time; his object was to suggest to the

mover of the resolution that a Message would be received from the President in a

day or two, accompanied with all the docu

ments embraced in the proposed call. He

would add tnat the papers, lie had every

reason to believe, would have been laid be

fore the Senate before this time, but from

the dehy which had taken place in obtaining authentic copies of papers from South

Carolina. Mr- Grundy remarked, that he

was authorized to say, it had been the in

tention of tho Chief Magistrate to mako a

communication to the Congress of tho Uni

ted States, embracing all the documents

wished for by the Senator from South Carolina, and probably more that the President had been prepared, for some time, except

that he was unable to obtain copies of the

laws of South Carolina, passed in pursuance of tho Ordinance. Nor has he yet been

able to obtain authenticated copies, al

though he had used all the means in his

power to , obtain them that he Mr. G.

now assured tho Senate, that on or before

Thursday next, a Message would be com

municated from the President, embracing

every thing referred to in the resolution,

and other matters of an important nature,

not contained in it; he therefore presumed,

there could be no necessity for any action

on the resolution at present. He would, therefore, suggest the propriety of laying

the resolution orr the table, until Thursday.

Mr. Calhoun said he should not object to

the motion under such circumstances. He

In the House of Representatives, after

several resolutions and petitions presented

by diflerent members had been disposed ot,

the President's Message, which will be

found at length in another part of this paper,

was laid belorc the House, with the accom

panying documents. After the Message

had been read, Mr. Wilde made some re

marks upon the importance of the subject, and moved that its further consideration be

postponed until to-day, and that the message and documents be printed. Upon this mo

tion a debate arose m which Messrs. Cambreleng, Wayne, Arnold, Dearborn, Ells

worth, Stewart, Carson, E. Everett, Coulter,

M'Duflie, Wilde, Drayton, Williams, Archer,

I tollman, Ingcrsoll, Burgess, Crag, Bell, R. M. Johnson, and Watmough, took part,

when the question was taken and the motion

to postpone lost, yeas 86, nays 101. Mr. Archer then moved to refer the message

and documents to the Committeo on the Judiciary. Mr. Stewart moved to refer

them to the Cammittee of the Whole on the state of the Union. After discussion unon

the relative propriety and advantage of the reference to these several Committees, in

which Messrs. Archer, Speight, Irvin, Wil

liams, Carnbreleng, Coulter, Bell and Dray

ton participated, the question was taken,

first upon the reference to the Committee

of tho Whole on the state of the Union This was neghtived by a large majority

The question was then taken upon refer

ring the Message and accompanying docu

ments to tho Judiciary Committee, which

was carried. Mr. Arnold, by unanimous

consent, moved that 0,000 copies of the

Message and documents be printed and

afterwards modified it to 25,000, at the in

stance of Mr. Mercer, which was agreed to.

The House then adjourned.

True, some of the larger town3 that now

support three or four papers, might then sustain one or two, for the sake of their local contents. We consider the present small tax on the transmission of newspapers, as a kind of protective duty on the manufacture itself, and the question appears to us to resolve itself into this: Is it better tliat city papers should almost exclusively circulate in the country, or that the country should have pa

pers ol its own? It is not probable that a newspaper in this town would be materially affected; because by its proximity to Boston almost any of the papers of that city may now be re

ceived tree ot postage; and herein, too, may be found the reason why Lynn cannot, or rather does not, support as many and as

large papers as other towns of its size in the State. Some time since wo received a Boston

paper containing an article, warmly in favor

of abolishing tho postage on newspapers, with the very modest request on the margin,

that we should copu it: but for several

reasons we could not make tho thing con

venient. Should such a thing take place

as the abolishment of postage on newspa

pers, we cannot but think that Uncle Sam s

mail-bags will not only be so greatly swol

en as to render it necessary to widen our

post omce doors, but that many valuable

country papers that now spread a healthful n .1 i. .1 ....

lnnuence over tne nine communities in

which they are centered, and whose wants

hey are better calculated to supply than

any foreign one possibly could, would be

obliged to make their bow and pass from

Lynn Messenger.

rilESIDKXTVi MESSAGE. On the IGth inst, the President communicated to Loth houses of Congress an able message, touching tho South Carolina difficulties. ItJ length compells us to defer its entire publication till next week. The following era extracts: In deciding upon the course which a high sense of duty to all tho people cf the United States imposes upon tho authorities of the Union, in this emergency, it cannot be overlooked that there is no sufficient cause for the acts of South Carolina, or fur her thus placing in jeopardy the happiness of so many millions of people. Misrule and op

pression, to warrant tho disruption cf the

free institutions of tho Union of these states, should be great and lasting defying all other remedy. For causes of minor charac

ter, the Government could uot submit to such a catastrophe, without a violation of its

most sacred obligations to tho other States

of the Union, who have submitted their des

tiny to its hands.

'lherc is, in the present instance, no such

cause either in the degree of misrule or oppression complained of, or in the hopeless

ness ot redress by constitutional means. The long sanction they have received from

the proper authorities and from the people, not les3 than tho unexampled growth and

increasing prosperity ct so many millions of

freemen, attest that no such oppression as would justify, or even palliate such a resort, can be justly imputed cither to tho present policy or past measures of the Federal Go

vernment, Tho same mode of collecting duties and for the same general objects,

which began with tho foundation ot the Government, and which has conducted the

country through its subsequent steps to its

present enviable condition of happiness and ienown, has not been changed. Taxation

and representation tho great principle of

the American Uevolution have continual

ly gone hand in hand; and at nil times and

in every instance, no tax of any kind has

been imposed without tho participation

and in somo instances which have been

complained of, with the express assent of a

part, of the Representatives of South Carolina in the councils of tho Government. Up to the present period, no revenue has been raised beyond the necessary wants of

the country, and the authorized expenditures of tho Government. And as soon as

the burthen of the public debt is removed,

ujusu uiMiguu wiui mo auinmisirauon nave promptly recommended a corresponding re-

auction 01 revenue.

That this system, thus pursued, has re

sulted in no such oppression unon Smith

Carolina, needs no other proof than the solemn and official declaration of the late

Chief Magistrate of that State, in his ad

dress to the Legislature. In that he savs.

that "the occurrences of the past year, in

connection with our domestic concern?, are

to be reviewed with a sentiment of fervent

gratitude to the great disposer of human

events; that tributes of grateful acknowledgements arc due for the various multiplied blessings he has been pleased to bestow on our people; that abundant harvests in every quarter of ihe State have crowned the exertions of agricultural labor; that health, almost beyond former precedent, has blessed our home; and that there is not less reason for thankfulness in surveying our social condition." It would, indeed, be difficult to imagine oppression, where, in the social condition of a people, there

was equal cause cf thankfulness as for ahun

neither ctm port with i.4-un i.fHy nor r!i rights cf tho great Lu.dy e,f U.o Ameiicm perple. It being thus shown to be the duty of tho Executive to execute the laws, l y U Constitutional mean?, it iunuii:sto ruiia'dor the extent cf ihoso already at hij di.jH s-1, and what it iny be ruopu further 10 provide. In the instructions of tho Secretary nf tho

Jreasury to tins Lolkctors m bouth Cud.

no, tho provisions and regulations mado ly

the act ot 1U, and nisi the linr, puudtits, and foitl-iiuicj Cr their eiiforoc:;u itt aro particuluily detailed and explained. It may bo well apprehended, however, thut theso provisions n3y prove inadequate to meet such an open, powerful, organized opposition, i'.i is to be conHnei.ccd after tha 1st of February next. Under these circumstances, and the provisions cf tho tels of South Caudina, tho execution of the laws u rendered impruciicablc, even through the ordinuiy jud 1

tribunals of tho United States. TJu-m

would ccrtaiidy bo fewer difficulties ar.d less opportunity of actual collision betweiu

the ofiicers ot tho U btatcs and ot the btatr, and the collection of tho revenue would bi

more effectually secured if indeed it cjii

bo done in any other way by pnen tha custom-house beyond the immediate power of the county.

lor this purpose, it might bo proncr to provide, that whenever, by any unlaw ll I combination or obstruction in any Slate, or in any pert, it should become impractical faithfully to collect the dutii, the lVsidentof tho United States should be authorized to alter and abolish such cftlu districts and ports of entry cs bhould bo neci javyf and to establish tho custom-house at .son.w secure place within tho satne port orh..ibtr of such State; and in such case?, it should he tho duly of the colle ctor to reside at such place, and to eh.tain all vessel and cargoes until the duties imposed by 1 iw be property secure d, or paid in cash deducting interest; that in such cases it should bo unlawful to take the vessel r.nd cargo fiom the custody of tho proper officer of tlu custom?, unlci

by process firm tin ordinary judicial tribunals of the U. States; and that in case of an attempt otherwise to take the property by a forco too great to be ovcrcoma by the officers of the customs, it should bo lawful tu protect the possession of the officers by tho employment of the land and naval forces ami militia, under provisions simihr to the so authorized bv t!3 Uth section of the act of the Tub of January, 1SIU In closing this communication I should do injustice to my own feelings not to expnss my confident reliance upon tho disposition cf each De partment of tho Government to perform its duty, and to co-opcrata in all measures necessary in tha present

emergency. The crisis undoubtedly invokes tho fidelity of the pet t riot and the sagacity of tha statesman; not more in removing such portion of the public burthen as may be unnecessary, than in preserving tho good order of society and in the maintenance of well regulated liberty. While a forbearing spirit may, and I trust, will be exercised towards the errors of our brethren in a particular quarter, duty to tha rest of the Union demands that open and organized resistance to the laws should cot bo executed with impuintj'.

Ihe rich inheritance bequeathed by our

fathers Ins devolved upon us tho sacred

obligation of preserving it by tho same vix-

tucs which conducted them

through

the

the stase.

We find the following article in the Au

gusta (Geo.) Courier.

"Is it possible : Can it be believed? In

the face of this community, tho William

Seabrook, Captain Dubois, with Governor

Hamilton on board, on leaving our wharf,

on Saturday morning last, hoisted the Uni

ted States Flag, Union down, with the re

volutionary tri-color flying over it! The indignation we feel in common with an in

sulted community, does not allow us to speak another word concerning such an

1.1 1 . . I

ctant Harvests ana various and multiplied eventful seem s of the revolution, and ulti

uiessings wim wmcu a hinet novidencc had matcly ciowncd their struggle with the uc

nvoreei 111cm. biest modt.i t,f c;vi institutions. They bc-

tndependcntly ot these considerations, it queathed to us a Government of laws, and

win not escape observation, tint bouth Car- a Federal Union, founded upon the great

onna still claims to be a component prut ot principle of popular representation. After

uiu uiwon, aim 10 prrucipaio m tne nation- a successful experiment of forty-Jour years, al councils, and to share in tho public bene- ut a moment when the Government aod tho

fits without contributing to the public bur- Union aro tho objects of the hopes of tho

muus; uius asscning i.mc uangerous anoma- friends of civil liberty throughout the world.

ly 01 continuing in an association without and in the midst of public and individual acknowledging any other obligation to its niosperitv unexampled in history, wo aro

laws than what depends upon her own will. caut j u,)0n to decide whether thtse lavvu

I U!- . if .1 t . r . 1 l ..

Mn ims pobiuru oi arm re, mo emiy 01 me ..osscssanv force.and t hit Union the means

f . 1 1 .7 1 . . : . . . . .

UUVtnilllUIU SeeiUS IO OC 1) alii: It inCUI- nlcoir ncmnlnn 'Pro ..rwr-n nflU

cates a recognition ot that btatu as a mem- ,,m-stinn bv :m ml-chii-ned and natriotic

ber of the Union and subject to its aulhori- people cannot bo doubtful. For mysolf,

ty, a vindication ot the just power ot tho tellow-citiicns, devoutly relying upon that

constitution, the preservation ot tho integ

rity of the Union, and the execution ol the

iaw3 by all constitutional means.

The Constitution, which his oath of office obliges him to support, declares that the

hxecutive "shall take care that the laws be

outrage. "

January 17.

PUBLIC LANDS.

The debate on this interesting subjec

had no wish to make the resolution a subject was continued on yesterday, Mr. Clack o

of discussion at tms time, lie considered Mississippi havinir the floor. lie address

the papers proposed to be called for, of the the Senate an hour and a half against Mr.

utmost importance as the most important Clay's bill, and in favor of the amendment

cf any' that had ever como before the Ameri- reported by the Committee on Public Lands, can people not excepting the Declaration snd expressed himself with "reat force,

of Independence. Upon the explanation clearness and ability. He showed the efgiven, he should move to lay the resolution feet the passage of the bill for distributing

on the taL.l-3 until Ihursday nest, unless the proceeds ot the public lands would have

corae other member should choose to make upon the Tariff question in keeping duties

tho mot. on. Air. King then moved that the I to the amount of two or three millions of

resolution hy on the table until Thursday, dollars, and thereby frustrating all plans for

i. tw. iiicouiiue res'Jineu reuuemg mo revenue 10 a point inai wouiu tho consideration of the bill, appropriating give satisfaction to the country; also the for a limited time, the proceeds of the sales effect it would have in keepinu up the price

Ol the public Janus, and the amendment I of ouhlie lands, and nromotincr emi-Tra! ion to

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waicn proposed in lieu thereof, a reduction

the price of die pubhc lands. Mr. Buck-

jif :'$ cooefwded hhi remarks io opposition to

the bill and in favor of the amendment, in a i

PUBLIC LANDS.

The discussion of the Bill with regard to the Public Lands, is opening up new views

of the great interest involved in the qucs

tion. Mr. Buckncr concluded yesterday,

a very able reply to Mr. Clay's speech upon this subject in the course of which, he made some severe animadversons upon the

charges urged against the honesty and fair

ncss of the western settlers, a3 to the good faith to be expected from them in fulfilling the terms of the law in the acquisition of their titles. Mr. Buckner will enable us,

we expect, to present his views to the public, after undergoing his own revision. dole.

cd over cur destinies, and actuated by a p:e-

fuund reverence tor thojc institutions I have

so much cause to love, r.nd for tho Ame rican

people whoso partiality honored mo with

their high st trust, I have determined to

faithfully executed," and, in providing .zi SjUro nu tn;,rt t0 discharge the duty which

uu snan, irom nmc 10 time, ivo to con

gress, information of tho state of the Union

and rccommentl to their consideration such

measures as ho shall judge necessary and

expedient, imposes tho additional obligation of recommending to Connre3 such

C7 W more efficient provision for executing the

laws as may from time to time be found re quisitc. The same instrument confers on Con grcssthe power not merely to by and col

lect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; to pay the debts and nrovide for the common

defence and general welfare; but "to malic "Juxt as the ting is font, the trcMzcUnrtl?

in this conjuncture ij devolved upon mo.

That a similar spirit will acttuto tho representatives of tho American tropic is not t

be questioned: and, I fervently pray lUt the Great Ilulor cf nations mav bo ruida

your del.hcratiens cmd our joint incisures

us that they may prove suluury examples

not only to the prci'eu?, but to tuturo time?, and solemnly pioelaim that the Consiitution and t!i j Law j aio supreme ar.d the Unicn

iiiUssolvllc.

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the new States. He also exhibited ar.d contrasted in thfl strongest point of view, the plan of tho President, as recommended in his Message, to reduce the price of the

ery l.ike. 'v hat letter is thai r ' vo

ciferated an impatient pedagogue to a pupil who had not yet become versed in the mysteries of the Roman alphabet, pointing to the letter X, Tho urchin scratched his head in a decided quandary, looking intent

ly on the diagram, unable to call it by name,

and fearing the weapon of him, "clothed in

bnet authority, should he give it an improper designation. "Come, sir, what is it?

speak quick'." again demanded the peda

gogue. "1 bleve, whimpered tho boy, m a tone of terror, 4,I b'levo it's a zaiz-hone, only you can't see Loth sides." Lynn Mtssengtr.

all laws which shall be necessary and pre

per for carrying into effect the foregoing

powers, and all oth;-r powers vested by the

Constitution in the Government ol the Uni

ieu oiates or in any deparmuni r r oinocrs thereof," and aljo to provide for calling forth

tho mihtin for executing the hv3 ol tu

Union. In all cases sim.br to the present,

the duties cf tho Government becemo ll

measure ct lis powers; uim whenever it

tans to exert a power necessary and prrpcr

to tho discharge of tho duty prescribed bv

the Constitution, it violates the public tr:

uot icss tnau it would in transcending it

proper limits. To refrain, therefore, from

tho high and solemn duties thus enjoined

however p.tinful ihe performance may be- 1 bhuvn off. with the curds and hoi.t:, toth

A Washington letter ur.ler thus spears

of Gowrnor Hamilton, cf i'oulh Carui-

nu:

"It is siid the rhaructrr of the rwn U of

ten lc e b'ped in the boy. G n. Hamilton,

when a boy was impatient of control, hue

V.-nlfii-O nml t.ivrn f 1 1 r Iriil ill ti.Til. Kilt

inconsiderate experiments. When a Ud,

and at school at l'rovid-Mico in Rhode IeV'ti i,

ho took it into Ins hcd one thy ;o u st d.tt powercf gun powder on himself. For thia

purpose, iie i id a p.gtol ua dt-.irjer.Mti holding it a j tinst t!;o m'.dule Imrjrr of hii

hand, ha

tM it olf, the elllct wa ihit,

which almost any hoy ei would Ir.vo anticipated

le uti'-t V,MS

So thereby tacitly permit the rightful :mit.cr

ityot the; Covernmeiit tohe conteuim o ar.ii its laws ccstfuctcd by x single tte, v.xuU

pil.il ot seen tho kniwii'if

his

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v.- rob.i iy