Indiana Palladium, Volume 6, Number 36, Lawrenceburg, Dearborn County, 11 September 1830 — Page 2

From the National Republican.

MR. CLAY'S "TALK." After an interim of three weeks, the "valued guest" of the "Mechanics' collation," in thi9 city, has issued, from his place of "unqualified retirement," and eeot forth to the world the "long talk," delivered on the third inst. It is a fpecimea of that classical composition, and chaste diction, which obtains in the good society" community, of which Hnry Clay is a conspicuous member. Ii its style we perceive some small refpmblance to the oratorical flourishes of Red Jacket. The appeal to the "people of Olio here assembled mothers daughters sons and sires" forcibly reminds us of some of the genuine sentiments of that great aborigiual chief; and when we take into consideration Sir. Clay's dev&tedness to Indian interests, and his z al to promote their "gen eral welfare," we think that it would be very uncharitable in us to rob him of mrhat new lights of oratory he might acquire, from either their speeches, their "talks," or their Tiaxim. To treat the subject more seriously, although it is undeserving that attention which is due to ordinary papers emanating from great men, I will notice a few paragraphs in this document, to show how 6 1 J I y a man can make himself appear in public estimation, at a time when he labours most incessantly to convince that public that he is a rational and consistent politician. After the "great father of the American system," expresses his gratiiude for the hospitable reception he met with io O uo and after he repeats and reiterates his expressions of gratitude, until he manages to fill a space of more than half a column Mt.Clay gently, and as if it were by stealth, feels bis way to the subject of the re-clnrleriug of the United States' Bank. I will here introduce his own language on this subj ct, that my readers may know how far this "fearless champion,' dare proceed in giving his opinions in advance n any measure not fully before the public; or how far he can be termed the leader of any policy, which he follows in the wake of, after brighter talent-, and more comprehensive views of public good, have been exerted to investigate that policy. The extract follow: "Whether the charter, of the United State' Bank ought to be renewed or not, Bear air yeara hence, in my j ldgment, is a question of expediency to be dVexied by the then state of the country; It will be necessary at that time to look carefully at the condition boib of the Bonk and the Union. To ascertain, if the public d 'bt shall id the mean time be paid off, what effect that will produce; what will be our then fi uncial condition, what that of our local banks, the state of our commerce, foreign and donaestica aa j well as the concerns of our currency gpneralfy. I am, therefore, not now preparfld to say whether (he charter ought or ough' not to be renewed oo the expiration of its present term. The Btnlr may become insolvent, and may kereafter forfeit all pretensions to a renewal. The question ia premature 1 may not be wXwet to form any opinion upon it. Jt belongs to posterity and if they would have the good n:89 io decide for us some of the perplexing and pnetical questions of the present day, we might be disposed to decide that remote question for them. As it is, it ought to be indefinitely postponed." This qitotai ion means any thing or nothing; and i something similar t Ltm,z D 's "I can and I canl,"I w?ll and I' won't," &c. "I belongs to posterity," eaj a the "valued guest," vet this question of re-chartering the United States' Bank, according to his own showing, is to be decided six years hence. Posterity, according to the dictionaries that if ere in vogue when I was a school-boy, wa6 defined as "succeeding generations" how many generarions six years will produce, is a problem that some of Mr. Clay's calcu lating friendet who were present at the collation, are requested to solve: I confess it to be beyond my computative ideas. The orator cannot forget his vocation: he must always be endeavoring to make good bargains. He now offers to make a bari;ain with this six year old posterity. Think you not gentle reader, thai this would be a childish bargain? Be this as it may, it is thought by many quite as rational a one, as some of its predecessors. These Succeeding generations" of six year old politicians, are offered this condition in the bargain: "If they will have the goodness to decide for us he friends and supporters of Henry Clay assembled in the Apollonian garden some of the perplexing and practical question of the present day, such question?, f r instance, as whether we in Kentucky have a right to vote money b longing to Uncle Sam, to improve roads fronting our farms; or whether my friends, and your late political brethren, shoul f be reformed out of oflice, for borrowing 6ome of the hose change of the Treasury department, we might," in the event of your answer ing these queries, condescend "to decide that remote question for them "Whether this bargain will be made between the two high contracting parties 31 r. Clay acd six year old posterity, is

a question loo remote for me to decide. I find nothing in the paragraph quoted, that txhibit? farmer Clay as a man .f that clear, practical foresight, that his idolizes and enthusiastic admirers, would make us beliqve. If this were the case, he would not exclaim, "I am not now prepared to say wheiher the charter ought or ought not to be renewed on the expiration of its present term." Has M. Clay no opinion on the subject? His friends boast of his always taking an advanced position in all subjects that interest the nation at larg. The question of re-chartering the United Slates' Bank, is certaii ly one of national importance; its discussion cannot be commenced too early ; nor can that be called premature which enters into the business of every man, and affects him either to his advantage or injury. In my opinion,the secret consists in this: Mr. Clay has not sufficient political foreknowledge, at this time to ascertain the popular sentiment on the question of the Buik charter, and like a political friend of his at Chillicotht , "he i9 determined to wait until he finds which side is the majority," for or against. It will then be an easy matter for him, having his "cue," to play 'cuckoo? for awhile; then change his manner of address, recommend, by way of amendment, tome trifling items for public considei rttion ; and fir. all, as in the case of his "American Sjsh m," after matured by others, cause his friends to proclaim him a- the father of the opposition to or tire supo i t of, (as the case may be) ibe great Backing question. The Bank question being settled by one of the orator's finest political equiv Ojue, he launches at once i ilo his broad, undefined and undf finable, "A mrican Ssttm." Here, through five columns of molasses and cotton iron and distilled spirit nullification and the revolution patriotism and whigs and topes cotton planters and the federal courts winning against Heaven and fatted calves, anil many othr strange connexions of ideas, he leads us safely through, without giving us time to breathe, that he may arrive at the more desirable object of his care, the veto message othe President. In prefaci'.g his abuse of the me as uresofGn. Jackson, the "great cham piori" introduces a sentence of doubtful import. As it stands in his speech, so I give it to my readers., presuming that the friends of Mr. Clay wilt not dare to charge me wiih perversion of words when I quote literally. He say: "If I could believe that the executive message, which was communican d to Oongres, upon the application of the Veto to the Alaysvilk Road, really rxnrpssed the opinion of the President of thr United Mates, in consequence of, the unfortunate relations wtnch have existed between ua I would forbear to make any observation upon it." Will my readers atlt mpt to analyse the sentence quoted, and ascertain its ti ue import. My view of us rading is this: that if M'. Clay thought this ms sage oi General Jackson's expressed his pinious unfavorable to the Mtysville Rad, by way of retaliation? or because of the "unfortunate relations" existing between him and Andrew Jackson, then he "would forbear to make any comment upon it." Ei go, because it does not so descend, to avenge private griev ances,at the expense of the public good, I will make some observations upon it. is not this a strange association of ideas? and does it not prove to a methemati' cal demonstration, that language "av;:ils not whilst M rdecai tin Jew," is permitted to kill the King's English? I am aware that M-. . Clay did not intend to convey to th public the ideas which my interpretation of the quoted sentence gives. This is not my fault it is his own, inasmuch as the connected language bears me out in the reading I have given it. I would not have noticed it, but for the dark insinuation of the speaker, which follows. Remarking on this message, he says, "It has his-,' Andrew Jackson's, "name affixed to it: but it is not every paper which bears the name of a distinguished personage, that is his, or e presses his opinion." Henry Clay is now before the publh, a candidate for the Presidency in order to diminish the talents of his competitor, and place him before the American people as an unlearned m tn, he echoes tbe assertions of many of his principal editors, that Andrew Jackson is incompetent to write his own roessages; and that his secretaries are employed to do this work for him. Call you this modesty of impudeuce? But

he carries his malevolence still further, and continues his assertions in the following languag-: "I cannot, therefore, consider the message as conveying the eentimtnta and views of tbe President. It ia impossible. It is tb- work of bis Cabinet, and if unfortunately tbey wera not practically irresponsible to tbe people of the United Statea, th-y ould deserve severe animadversions for having prevailed upon tbe President, in the precipitation of business, and prrhapa without bis spectacles, to put hia name to such a paper, and atnd it forth to tbe Congress and to the nation " H ere is another very illiberal and unjustifiable attempt to injure, the Pre

sident. By the phrase ;wlhcul hU spectacles," an impression i? intended to be conve)ed, that old age has impaired the faculties of Gen. Jack?on, and that he will be unqualified for another presidential term; ergo, by this parity of reasoning, I am the man whom you aught to select, as I am not so old yet, as to be thus entrapped for want of spectacles. The remainder of this paragraph has too much of the long-repen ted slang of Mr. Clay and his followers, to deserve fariher notice at this time; and like many of its kindred brethren will be taken at its full value, which will be estimated best by thoe who know how to distinguish between vindictive feeling and tru patriotism. POLITICUS.

COMMUMCA TIOJVS. To the friends of Mr. Clay. Gentlemen: How amusing to the friends of the Administration, to every republican, have been y our boastings & calcul itions for the last three months; how cheering to the patriot, who looks 7ith an eye single to the prosperity of the country, who desires, above all thing-, that the union, our free and liberal institutions, shall rke triumphant fiom the storm of war, brighten and appear the more lovely and interesting amidst the rage of party strife, and end but with eternity; that all your calculations and all your In pes for the eievation of your sar" to the presidency, are but visions baseless fabricks. You .ire not only catchine at i straws and grasping at shadows, hut waited to the seventh political heaven, at not onJy the rattle, but the sound thereof. Pause for a moment, gentlemen; lay aside yur lying political vanities, let re ison resume its umpire, and then reflect, an-1 you will be able to see y our "star" of the west "as he really is; and to determine how illusive are nil your hopes for his success. In 1824. Mr. Clay was a competitor for the presidency ,aainst the pr sent incumbent, Adams and Crawford. 'J hen he tilled the Speakers chair then he waived the sceptre of debate in congress hall then did Mr. Clay's political colours fl .at in the air, without spot & without blemish, over the heads of a chosen set of personal a d political friends, attached to their country --then no foul 6tain had been impressed upon the eseutch eon of his private or political honor yet w.ts this "star of the West" distanced by them all! By the hero and patriot Jackson, as 90 to 37; and by Adams, whom Clay had charged with an attempt to exchange the dearest rights of the west, (the navigation of the Mississippi for the paltn fisheries of the east,) was he beaten, as 84 to the same number; and was even outrun by the virtuous but almost blind and bed riden Crawford. If such wa3 the fate of Mr. Clay, before the American people, in the fulness of time, in the meridian and sjlendor of his day, what has he or his friends noiv to expect? When he has fallen when that escutcheon and those colours lie prostrate in the dust before an indignant and injured people, stain ed with the foul name of "corruption, bargain and sale," "war, pestilence, and famine." VYhee are those virtuous and patriotic friends, tho' few, who then sustained him? Some have mingled with the Jackson ranks; the balance have gone over, with their fallen leader to the ancient Federalists and Hartford Convention band ; these, with the disappointed and unworthy, public defaulters, with many deluded, honest and well disposed citizens, (for the purpose of regaining oflice and power,) are attempting to rally round the standard of Mr. Clay, tho' a prostrate, ambitious, and desperate political chief. Junius. TO GENERAL GREGG, Half Editor of the Statesman. Sir: you charge Junius with having "profaned the name of that illustrious and unknown author," because he possesses neither his character nor talent. Of the character of each you are alike ignorant, yet take upon yourself to determine. To judge of the character of an unknown author, is like judging of things not seen or heard. But this is a specimen of yourself. As to the sentiment and style of Junius, they are each his own ; and tho' he shall fall short of the author, whose name he has taken, in point of talent, he considers it no reason why he sliouli not use what he has. Yes, Junius will use his own style, and not follow the example of a petty editor, who has attempted to establish a character for writing, by vending other men's goods. It is then the style of Junius which seems to have given you oMence. The great art of writing is to adapt the style to the subject, and not use the same in the description of an eloquent orator, a gallant soldier, and a midnight assassin in the description of an honest benevolent man, full of charity and wisdom, and the base contemptible and pitiful half editor of a prostituted press. This being the opinion of Junius, you will excuse him for the style employed, when addressing an individual v?h seems so p!eaed

trith tfca title of "Captain General of all infamy." An individual who alike applies the terms, 'infamy ,,kignomini us' to men &, saints. You have given J unius a name which excites no other feelings than that of pity and contempt for your self. Judas lscariot was not oniy the chosen but favorite disciple of his Lord, whom he betrayed it is true; but it was one f those event? necessary to fill the grand scheme of salvation. As essential to the redemption ofa wicked world was the betraying as fhe birth, the crucifixtion, burial, and ascension of Jesus Christ. As well might Peter be condemned for denying, as Judas for betraying. Junius has no doubt but each are bright saints in heaven; and that the day is not far distant, when the General will lift up his eyes in hell, and behold Judas Iscariot aloft in heaven; vet is he pronounced ''ignominious."

Aside from all the balance of your life, t of your lean, lank, long-face, upon stilts, and your guilty down-cast looks, and I this single act would brand you with; infamy, and in a most eminent decree entitle you to your new name. This circumstance alone would render you unworthy the further notice of Junius, other than as the worthless toy, by kicking y ou occasionally, by way of amuse ment. And how can you expect tire ' grave notice ot any man, muth less Junius, who aims at higher game, when the terms of "nameless unapproachable infamy ignominious fanfaronade castigation contempt indignation noon day pestilence foul breath of j calumny and vile," are as familiar to you as the particles of light, and by ! your depraved heart and "vile" peu, are alike applied to man, the disciples of a God, and to the saints of heaven. As it regards Junius these epithets fall harmless at his feet. He has nothing to fear from a press, however prostituted, while in the hands of Gen. Gregg. Junius fears neither your person nor pen, however much you mayr pilfer epithets and fegures from the Ia bors of others; nor will he fear you more or less, should you avail yourself of your high privilege, and draw large ly on your Irish fund. Junius, however, feels pore inclined to pity than condemn or censure you. You act not only a borrowed, but a hired part. And when he considers the heads and the hearts of those, in whose hands you are but the "vile" instru ment, a mere cats-paw, for puposes the most "ignominious' is surprised yoa have not ere this found it necessary, for the safety of "society," to have left its precincts and perfoirned a quarantine of not only forty, but an hundred days. Again when Junius looks at the man under whose immediate direc tion you are placed, in the absence of your more Testy master. Yes, when Junius looks at that individual, your friend, companion, and master for years past, his only astonishment is that you, Genera), have not long since been consumed in a bursting flame of "ignominious and unapproachable infamy," kin died from the funeral pile of yvur familiar and favorite epithets, filched from the ware house of billingsgate. You say it is the virtue that surrounds the individual to whom you apply your epithets of "infamy ," Sic. atd not his own, that "prompts you to hclti him nameless." In the next sentence, that "the allusion in your last is so plain, that he who runs may read it." This is blowing hot and cold with the same breath. Whether thi3 inconsistency and folly is Vo be attributed to a natural disposition for misrepresentation and lying from a depraved heart, or a totally deranged intellect, and a perfect state of insanity, i3 a question which Junius refers to the friends of the General, by suggesting the propriety of a speedy appointment of trustees, to settle bis estate and take charge of his amiable family. Junius would however, assign the withholding the name to a very different cause: a consciousness of having applied "infamy" to virtue, or from a fear of merited punishment. From that source Junius will pledge himself you shall have nothing to apprehend; but name the individual and Junius is done with you, and so with his friend. Junius pledges himself further, that if you will but name that individual, he will undertake to prove that individual to possess more talent, equal virtue, morality, honesty, honor, and integrity, than tbe proudest and btst of your private or political friends. If Junius fails iodoing this,he will then join y ou in his condemnation. You say you have so described the individual, whose name is sought for, as that all know him, and point the finger of scorn at him; if so, what reluctauce to write that name. Should you still hold him nameless, in tbe absence of all reason, Junius will attribute it, and so will the world, to one, of all others, the most wicked; and will not hesitate to pronounce you what he will now hold nameless. Junius.

LouisriUe and Portland Car.al. The excavation of the rock in this ctnl ib going on with great energy, and if no unforeseen accident should occur, it ia confidently expected that the work will completed during the present season. IVeaUrn Tillsr.

(&-The Opposition asV, "what haa been gained by the election of G-o Jackson?" Without stopping to . x .m- t ine a question bo easy of solution, we would hasten to show what has bee lost by the election of Mr. Adams. O.ie item is given now; others will follow ia due time. Among the thousand and one evidences whieh have been given to th public of the louse manner (to use the mildest term) of doing the public business which had obtained under the last administration, and of the necessity that existed tor that work of reform which has so stirred the bile of some of the leaders of the Clay faction, there has been one mentioned in a late report of tho Secretary of the Navy,, which perhaps, deserves a little attention at our hands. It seems that in 1815, two persons, namd Allen at d Ln nard, entered into a contract with the government to driver forty thousand gallons of whiskey at Sackett's Harbor, at ninety rent? and the original cost of casks. At their own iequ st, some two or three months after this contract was entered into, they were permitted to charge th place of delivery for the quantity of whik y vet remaining due (33,00OgnUon) fr m Saikett's Harbor to N Y'tk. The whiskey was accordingly delivered, their accounts rendered, and patrmnt in full, according the stipulations of the agreement, was made to them. This all took place in th year 1815. Fi ur years after, in 1819, a claim waiset up by Messrs. Allen and Leonard for an esira allowance on the gmond of the change of tbe place of delivery sa change, be it remembered whirh wa granted by the Department at ther own solicitation, and b-caue they contained that they would incur heavy K ss by being obliged to ful I the original terms.

The amount of the extra allowance for which they asked was $3,500, for ccst of transportation. This claim was promptly and properly rejected by the secretary of the Navy. Three years after, in lS22,they revived their claim, but for an augmented amount this time asking on the same pretence , the cost of transportation, 4, 332,69, together with two addition! items, one io the amount of 323 28 to rover loss by leakage, and the othe? 750, for extra expenses of delivery , o akn g the total of their claim in 1822 5,415 95. For this sum they did not ' apply to the Navy Departmental petitioned Corgress. The Committee of claimto whom the matter was referred, did not take up the subject that session out in the following one bicught in 3 report against it, and concluded theic report with an allusion to documents from the Navy Department, whkh pro ved the invalidity of the demand. The next year, 1824, the indefatigable M vssrs. Allen Sl Leonard, as if determined to weary Ctngress "with an agony of prayersv' renewed their petition, which was again rejected. F ur years now passed awayand during mat lime nothing was heard f this unfounded claim for extra allowance, when at last Mr. Southard hav ing in the meanwhile been appointed to the ffi of Secretary of the Navy Monsieur Tonr son come again. During the pniod of his repose he had become still more plethoric, his whole bill now amounting to 11,531 50! This increase was mada up of an entire new claim, on the ground of a ditFerence in proof, amousiting to 5,448 61. Mr Southard received the gentleman with a gracious smile, paid him his five thousand four hundred dol lars at once, and referred him once more to Congress for the balance. The committee requested to be discharged from the consideration of the claim, believing Hhat no legislation was necessary,' and that "if the petitioners had any claim, it could be adjusted at the proper Department." Forthwith to the proper Department the petitioners go, and were no doubt well pleased to hear fllr Southard declare to the Fourth Auditor that he considered the resolution of the Committee, thus unequivocally rejecting the claim, "as authorizing and directing a settlement of it." It was accordingly settled tc the full amount asked. At first, in 1819, according to their own showing, Messrs. Allen Si Leonard wero entiMed to but 3,500, and asked for no more. At every successive application their demand was increased, tilt at last, in 1828, they claimed and were paid upwards of eleven thousand dollars. The sibyl when she first presented herself before Tarpin, required bim to buy her nine books; the next time she came with but six; aud the third with but three. The Messrs. Allen Si Leonard seem not to have fe.h much respect for the historic example. But the most curious part of this story remains to be told. Allen Si Leoaard became insolvent, and their alftirs were investigated before a Jury in 1829., In the course of that investigation it came out that one thousand dollars of the eleven thousand were lent to Tobias Watkins, the Fourth Auditor, at the very time the claim was allowed! Commect on this is unnecessary,