Indianapolis News, Indianapolis, Marion County, 29 May 1920 — Page 4
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THE IXDIA XAPOLIS NEWS. SATTITDAT, MAT 29, 1920.
NEW KANSAS COURT SUBJECT OF DEBATE
SHORT FURROWS —ABF MARTIX-—
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Allen Defends Law as Public. Protector; Ccmpers Insists on Right to Strike.
NO DECISION IS RENDERED
Carneys Hall, New York, Crowded With Partiaana of Speaker*. Each of Whom i* Cheered. NEW YORK, May 29^-C»rDeyie hail w.a* packed to the door* laat nijfht when Samuel Gompera, president of the American Federation of Labor, and Henry J. Allen, Governor of Kansas, met to debate the merit* of the recently enacted Kansas induatrial court law and kindred subjects. Alton B. barker, of this city, presided and introduced the
speakers.
Mr. (}otni>*r* and flovernor Allen waikeri on the stas** shortly after 8 o'clock while the audience aroee and Cheered. I^ach waei followed by a iarse body of aupoofters. When the Aral wave of cheerti* had eubaided a band struck up "There'll Be a Hot Tim# In the OM Town Tofllsht." Mr. Oompere, the flret ep^aker, prefaced hla araurnent with the announcement that he tied been in conference during the day with representative* of the etrlking lodaehoremen and that they had authorised Mm to etatc they were willing "to submit pending cont roverele* to a fair and tinblaacd hoard of arbitration and will pledge themselves *- advance to abide by its decision."
Hpeeks for I/ongshoreiwen.
He declared further that the longshoremen would return to work within sis hours after the steamship companies Have signified their
willingness to arbitrate.
Herbert Hoover, I>r, Nicholas Mar ray Butler, James W. flerard, Henry F, Davtason, <ieorge W, Wlckersham. Bawl M. Warburg, Paul I>. Cravath, Oeorg< Kosf er Peabody and Miss Mary Oarrett Hay wsre among those ocrupying seats on the platform or
In tho boxes.
"We are now at the parting of the ways in the great controversies which are nolv occupying the minds of our people," declared Mr. Gompers, beginning his direct argument of the debate "On the one hand we have the great construcjlva movement for progress, for clvllltatlon and with all the tasks these Impose, and on the other hand we have those who are leading the course of reaction, of Jn-
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principles of
freedom, justice and democracy shall hold sway or be supplanted by the tyranny and the injustice of old." Mr. Gompers said he wanted to lay down a few fundamental principles and one of his executive committee, Mrs, Marah A. Conboy, read the fol-
lowing statement:
"The fact that the • voluntary organlxatlons of the wage workers are declared by the courts to be truats n and combinations in Illegal restraint of trade, does not necessarily so conv stltute them. In fact, the unions of workers are not such, None of their achievements In behalf of the tolle?„ or society at large can be confused with the selfish and pernicious - activities of ths Illegal trusts. Labor Not ( omsaodlty. "The trust, evan at its beat. Is an organisation of a few to monopolise production and control distribution of material products. The voluntary bssodatlons of wage workers for mutual benefit and assistanoe are essentially different. The fact must not be lost sight of that the power of labor is not a material commodity. Thrre can be no trust In anything which is not yet produced." Resuming his address Mr. Gon pers
said'
"There is a common error In the minds of a large number of our people, and peoples of the whole world, who confuse the term ’labor and capital’ as being in exactly equal position toward each other. The fact of the mutter is that capital is the product of labor. “The difference between a slave and a free man is that the slave must work when his master or owner directs and wills. The free man may stop his work and whatever consequences of suffering that may be Involved Is his suffering and the suffering of no one else. The right of a free man to dispose of himself, of | his labor Htid his labor power has ‘ been sot forth In a supreme court do- | olitlon—an opinion read by the then associate Justice of the supreme ; court. Mr. Hughes. In which the prln- j clpl«» is ect forth clearly that no man j is free, that involuntary servitude exists, when a man must work against ; his will." 1 Anti-Strike I.eartslatlon. There is one thing ab< ut the labor question which Is axiomatic." Mr. Gompera continued, "that is: If you attempt to outlaw strikes by legislation. depend upon it your law will be futile and you will simply make criminals and law breakers of workmen who are honest, patriotic cltl-
■ens.
"There is but one ground upon which any justification may be assumed to tie men to their jobs ami make strikes unlawful; that Is the concession that our republican institutions and our democracy have ceased v Admit that, and I have no word to debate exoept that I combatted every moment of my life. The Boston tea party was a very nice affair. What was it except a strike against England, tyranny and InjusMr. Oompers’a direct argument ended amid prolonged applause and cheers, at the conclusion of which a tabor delegation presented him with a floral offering Governor Allen also was greeted with prolonged applause when he was Introduced. He lost no time in coming to the defense of the Kansas industrial court building his argument on the promise that “the safety of the publio la the supreme law." He declared that this was the fundamental axiom on which he and his supporters were working and which governed his attitude toward capital, labor and tha disputes which arise between them. He asserted that he was not present as a representative of capital or labor, but "as a representative of all of us—the general public." He reviewed the labor troubles in Kansas last winter, laying especial emphasis on the coal strike and the alleged hardships resulting thereH from. "We have not forbidden to any man the right quit work” he asserted, "we merely have taken away from Mr. Gompers his divine right to order a man to quit work. Asia for Alternative. "A great deal is said about the brotherhood and 1 am not unconscious tonight of all the progress that has been made by organixed labor through its solidarity. And 1 ail glad lot the legitimate progress of every laber union organisation in the United States today/T Governor Ailed then referred to statements alleged to have been made by union leaders In tha past, including Mr. Gompers, that “If you take aw ay the right to strike, we will find
"I see by th’ papers quite a lot o’ girls are missin’ an’ it haint •urpriijji.’ ‘Why girts leave home!* What’s t’ prevect? All the restraint* an’ restrictiona have been swept away,” said Mrs. Em Moots, t’day. “When I wuz a girl I stayed at home an’ pap supported me an’ maw mad* my clothes. Sometimes my face wur shiny an’ my hands wuz red, but after I got strung out it wvzn’ long till I had a beau—not a fourflushin’ dude an’ trifler, but a serious minded productive beau that wuz self-sustainin’ an’ then some. I never thought
of sparkin’ till I wuz seventeen an’ then I picked my man. I had no time fer triflers. I drove three fellers off before I found one t* my likin’. My maw taught roe t’ sew an’ bake, an’ before I saddled myself off on my husband my folks had my teeth all 1 plugged an' lined up. My husband got an asset when he got me—not a liability. I pitched right in off th’ bat an’ done my part jest like a business partner. But Fm not surprised that ther’s a few girls missin’’ each day. I’ve often wondered how they all got back home at night Accordin’ t’ our social ethics an’ standards a girl might as well stay lost after she once strays. It does a big hunk of a boy good t’ run off an’ git ' kicked about fer awhile- It straightens him out an’ makes him appreciate what a home really is, but a girl haint made o’
th' same stuff an' rubbin’ around amongst strangers don’t do her no good. It’s bad enough fer a girl t* go on a visit amongst friends, but t’ tear out an’ cast her lot amongst strangers is th’ limit, ’specially when they dress th’ way they do. Th’ very hats th’ girls wear seem t’ be designed t’ git ’em in bad, t’ say nothin’ o’ th’ hose with th' fancy grill work on th! insteps. If th’ girls are goin’t’ dress th’ way they do they wont only have t' pay th’ fiddler, but also th’ saxophone players an’ trap drummers. They dress too darned becomin'ly
t* be safe.”
“When I wuz a young squirt of a feller I used t' dress up in th’ evening,’ dash on a lot o’ cologne an’ take my cane an’ go down town an’ walk till ten o’clock without seein’ a girl, but t’day ther a drug on th’ market,” said Tell Binkley. “Ther’s somethin’ wrong with th’ home trainin’ these days. Where th’ mothers an’ fathers are I don’t know. They never seem t’ worry about a daughter till she fails t’ show up fer breakfast,” sighed Gran’maw Turner.
. taWiahed everything that ha* been establiahed Is the hietory of Use progjjf res* of fhi# great industry.”
Collective Bargaining.
P I He de'med that tha Kansas law deli I nied the workmen the privilege of I collective bargaining. He said it gave jj 1 lhe miners that right, whether they * were members of unions or not, and : protects the sanctity of their contracts. Governor Allen assailed Mr. • Gompers's political activity. Referring
going to be any compulsion in this | gentlemanly inainuation" the labor
country of one man over another, men shouted with glee,
then in God's name let us have that j One shouted: "You tell him. Sammy;
compulsion directed by government." , that's the stuff.”
Governor Allen declared the day is Governor Allen. in conclusion, coming when “the doctrine we pre-i charged that Gompers s “remedy for
seated in Kansas will come to be ac- 1 war is more war." .
cepted as the broad and Just and im- j "Mine." he added, "is peace eondipartiai remedy for the compulsion of ■ tioned on the impartial judgment of
unionism. I would not seek to wipe responsible government *'
seised Durazxo, principal seaport of Albania, and has set up an administration in the town, according to a Zurich dispatch to the Petit Parlsien. The Jugo-Stav government is said to have informed the allies it would resist with force any attacks made by D'Annunzio against its citizens.
out unionism. I would seek only to. Within a year, the Governor Pte- briele d AnniiPzio which were renort place it under less radical direction." i dieted, the best friends of the Kansas , d Annunxio. which were report-
. . industrial law would be the laboring ed as having occupied the village of
Right t» Strike Defeated. j men of Kansas. ^ . Cavalaja and threatening to seize Mr. Gompers. in championing la- „ 1 ^ r e . n 1 ’^’’. com * ' f ussak. in the Flume region, are con-
jto Mr Gompers’s alleged orders to or- j bor ' s privilege to strike, electrified his spire to shut down the industry nec- cording to information” 1 received a by iganized labor to see that no man partisans when he said, with evident' es ^ r y to the welfare of the people." the foreign office from Belgrade to-
i to tha congress who is not in favor of i amotion, that the workinrman who ^ ^ th * public says we | day. The -
: labor’s program, he said; ‘ "The political party in the
j coming campaign that has not the! eiety."
| wouldn't try to benefit his condition forth- i was * “poltroon to himself and so-
dispatch says the Jugo-
slavs are preparing military meas-
ures to resist D'Anunzio.
workinviran who * ^ “When the general public says we j day, workingman wno have had enough of this.” he said. •
“it's over.”
The debate called for no decision.
the committees in charge having pur-
posely divided the house equallv be- j Whnrnrh Fight Way to Aintab.
constructive courage to stand out and} Mr - Gompers declared that the coal tween supporters of each speaker. »** ti ?^™ t *<* l ?*\'*to*** strike took boys out of the — , umn its way lnt<>
conference report on the army reorganization bill, authorizing the maintenance of a peace time army of 297.500. officers and men. Congressional investigation of the escape from custody of Grover C. Bergdoll. was proposed in a resolution introduced in the house by Chairman Kahn, of the military aiTairs
committee.
The senate refused to recede from its amendment fixing the total appropriation in the rivers and harbors bill at $24.000.000 instead of the $12.000.000 total agreed on by the house and sent it back to conference. II Without opposition, the house passed and sent to the senate a bill i amending the 1918 revenue law so ; as to insure taxation of 2.500 personal
t °f cowardice to defeat. Storms of applause, which lasted '
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! several minutes, greeted this per tiOB. Governor Alien concluded \ direct argument by asking Mr. Gom Per* to “who bad the divine
1 r l eT \} f£fbid the switchmen to s^nxe In ttheir outlaw strike; who
divine right to quit ^ justice, there can’t be may ' part
troops have been holding Flume, has
OH, BOY!
D’ANNUNZIO TAKES DURAZZO
jtVnS's ' >--•"... a,. the sweatshops when laws had failed I banian Adriatic Port. Governor Allen scored a point with F ARIS * May Captain Gabriele his friends with the assertion that Annunxio, whose “irregular” Italian
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isafd n. speaking in rebuttal.! He alluded to the attitude of the Governor te w to answ f f r th « American Federation of Dabor in the voiced ! he J? ad ti™*- Several ; approaching election toward un- j can U You b c.n't-* Ience 8houted: j friendly officeholders as a “moveMr Gorr.ir.er> k ^A > rnent to unionize the. congress of the
. # Gompers said he would prove it > United States”
return *tothe^Cover He did tf not I The Kansas court does not prosehowever ''®'* rnor s question, , cu te labor, Governor Allen said, but when he’ said* * ome minutes later. }t protects labor against capital, cap”The Govern,w , k * ’ it*l against labor and the public
/ n ® Governor says that he wants ‘ either or both to take from me. from Gompers. the a S* !nat e»«»« r or t > oin - right of ordering strikes. It Governor's Question Unanswered.
A feature of the debate was Allen's efforts to get Gompers to answer this
question:
“Wb n a dispute between capital and labor brings on a strike affecting the production or distribution of the necessaries of life, thus threatening the public peace and impairing the public health, has the public any rights in such a controversy or is it a private war between cap-
ital and labor?”
“It you answer this question in the
ofCirmative, Mr. Gompers. how would
tect the rights of the pub-
DONDON. May 29.—A French col- service corporations which support
' ers of the proposal Incmdlng treasury officials, said might escape payment
Syria, and after heavy fighting sue-j 0 f taxes as a result of the supreme ceeded in relieving the town, it was court's decision exempting stock divl-
officially announced today. The Jjends from taxation.
Under the measure personal service
Turks suffered heavy casualties.
la Senate and House.
WASHINGTON, May 29 —By a vote of 235 to 109, the house adopted the
corporations would be taxed on the same basis as other corporations instead of on the partnership basis. Undistributed profits of such corporation would be taxed 20 per cent
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of ordering strikes. It
reminds mte very much of a man who has been told a story utterly ridiculous, but tio hie bland mind it seemed •imply to be the truth, and he ran away and Relieved it. It may be interesting hews to the Governor to know that in all my life I have never ordered a strike of two men; more or less—never, never—and I challenge him or any one else who will give bis name to assert the contrary.”
Retort Brings Laughter.
Somebody in the audience shouted:
“Who jordered the striker
“Go home and find out. Take your special train back to Kansas,” Mr. Gompers retorted, amid shouts of
laughter from the audience.
Governor Allen, in rebuttal, went into details of the Kansas coal strike, saying that Gompers had not said anything of the man who does not
want to go out on strike.
“He has said nothing of that fundamental provision in union Igbor for the compulsory organization of labor
you protect tne rights lie?" asked the Governor.
The labor leader declined to answer
it, asserting it was a catch quesUO At another time, while Mr. Gompers was referring to the poverty of some workers, a man In the gallery
shouted:
“How poor are your
Gompers was plainly angered at the question. He demanded the man's name amid shouts of encouragement from his followers, and when the labor leader had referred to the disturber’s remarks as “a cowardly, un-
forbfdden convict labor to come :n
competition with other labor, wc have
established a free emnloyi
<1 an
11 shed a free employment Serv ice we have provided an industrial welfare commission; we have provided that no injunction, whether interlocutory or permanent, in any case between employer and employes or between persons employed, or per-
sons seeking employment, growing out of a dispute concerning terms, conditions, etc., shall be issued without previous notice and an opportunity to be heard in behalf of the party enjoined. “We have established liens to protect workers, we have established the eight-hour day In mines, we have es-
“The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. ”
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some other way.”
'‘Before the debate closes.'
Implore Mr.
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mind.'
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