Indianapolis Journal, Volume 53, Number 27, Indianapolis, Marion County, 27 January 1903 — Page 2

THE INDIA ISA POMS JOURNAL TUESDAY, JANUARY 27, 1903.

Institution before the Reformatory came Into existence hi The board of di rectors of the Prison South were. James R. Henry, W.-S. Carpenter and John-Nugent. Those contracts provided that men should work ten hours a day and that-the State was to receive Co cents a day lor their services from the Indiana Manufacturing Company and 40 cents -per day from the other contractors on a ten-hour basis, and the contractors were to have the labor of every man assigned to them for the first thirty Cays free of charge. These contracts when entered into were referred to Attorney General Ketcham and approved by him as being in every way in accordance with the law. Not a, single member cf the present board of. manager was a member of the board of directors at the time these contracts were entered Into,-and the members of the present board are not responsible for ny of th?- provisions Of these contracts. The law establishing and governing the ReXormatory, passed in 1&7, specifically retires that the board of managers of the 3ieformatory must carry out the contracts entered into by the board of directors of the Prison ßouth. In 15&7. when the institution was created, the board of managers at that time consisted of ex-Senatcr Thomas E. Ellison, of Fort Wayne. James R. Henry, of (Josport. ex-Senator II. C. Duncan, of Bloomlngton, and D. J. Terhune, of Linton, who decided that It was for the best Interest cf the inmates .of the institution that the nours of labor should be reduced from ten hours to eight hours per day. This met with severe opposition from the contractors, as they claimed their investment was JuJt as great in working eight hours as In. working ten, and that the free labor employed by them at the institution, such as instructors, office force, etc., could not be reduced in wages correspondingly, and that the expenses would be much greater pro rata under the eight-hour than under the ten-hour system, and that their production would necessarily be less. The board of managers, however, forced them to make the concession, and at that time it was agreed that the working day should be reduced 20 per cent, and the price 2U per cent. Of the whole number of men employed on contracts only one hundred were on tasks, and it was agreed that in consideration of the acceptance of the eighthour system Instead of ten hours the tasks of the one hundred men should be reduced 15 per cent. All these facts were open to full Investigation by Senator Goodwine and his committee, but for reasons best known

to themselves they declined to get at the truth while at the institution and were content to make general charges and insinuations against the present members of -the board which -are absolutely untrue and without any foundation whatever. EMPHATICALLY DENIED. 4. In an-jwer to the charge of undue punishment, we emphatically deny that any unusual or improper punishment has ever been inflicted in the Reformatory with the knowledge or consent of the board, and so far as our vigilance has been able to detect the same we know that the insinuation and charge made on that subject will not' be sustained by a fair, candid and Impartial investigation of the fact. The one case given by Senator Goodwine Is like the rest of his statements and those who are attempting to force the passage of this bill, a mere. statement of only half the truth, with the suppression of such facts which, when all are presented, leaves the charge without any foundation. The convict to whom Senator Goodwine says he talked had been confined in the solitary for flagrant violation of the rules of the institution on some Ave or six times before and was 'classed as an incorrigible. The statement that a convict had been hung up by his hands is absolutely false, ' for-nothing like that ever occurred in the institution. Incorrigible convicts are handcuffed to the doors part of the time while In. solitary confinement. It must be remembered - that some of the vilest and most persistent criminals are sent to this institution, men who have never obeyed the law or willingly submitted to either the law or other authority. Some punishment Is absolutely necessary to enforce discipline in the institution. The solitary cell on a limited diet is considered by most prison people as the most humane. No prison can be conducted without punishment and it i3 always a serious subject of consideration, care and watchfulness of the management of this Institution. Uut we insist emphatically that no Inhuman punishment has ever been inflicted in this Institution since it became a reformatory, and demand the fullest investigation of the subject. The fact that the legislative committee found but one man in punishment at the State Prison t Michigan City and n their visit to the Reformatory found nine men is another Illustration of a studied perversion of facts to throw discredit t on the management of the latter. A visit at another iimc at Michigan City prison might find nine men there in punishment ana another visit to the Reformatory but one In punishment. That depends entirely upon the Infraction of the rules of the institution, and a statement of such facts ismade not in good faith, but for the pur1ose of prejudicing the minds of the mem;en of the Legislature and the public e gainst the Reformatory. The management of the Indiana Reformatory has neyer adopted the rule to regulate the number cf Inmates in punishment with reference to visitations of either the legislative committee or the State Board of Charities. FAIR AND COLDER TO-DAY. Itain In Soothe -n Indiana and Fair In Northern To-3Iorrovr. "WASHINGTON, m Jan. 26. Forecast Tuesday and "Wednesday: for For Indiana and Illinois Fair and colder on Tuesday. Wednesday fair in north, rain la south portion; fresh northwest winds, becoming southeast. For Ohio Rain and colder on Tuesday. Wednesday fair, except snow alone: the northeast lake shore; -fresh west to north west winds. Local Observations on Monday. Rar. Ther. R.H. Wind. Weather. Tre. 7 a. m....u.w s;: 9 Cloudy. .00 I p. m.... 30.04 4S 73 S. Clear. .00 Mail mum temperature, 43; minimum temperalurc, 4U. Comparative tatment of the mean temperature ana una precipiiauon on aionuoy; Temp. Pre normal 31 .10 Mean 33 .00 Departure from normal $ .i Departure since Jan. 1 91 .37 rius. W. T. BLYTIID. Section Director. Yesterday's Temperatures. Station. 7 a.m. Max. 7 p. m Abilene. i 63 ?4 . 63 Amanuo, icx 44 44 Antonio, iex 42 74 7a Aiiania, ua...... ............. 4 J 44 44 liismarcx. a. u rt 2$ 10 Buffalo. N. T..... : 42 43 Cairo. Ill 40 60 16 Calgary. .Alberta 4 13 . g Chattanoogs. Tenn 22 43 45 Cheyenne, Vyo 38 3S 39 Chicago. 111..... 3 44 44 Cincinnati, u 33 g$ iq Cleveland, 0 23 i 42 uoiumrus. u 3J w 4$ conooruia. ivan ... ..... 32 42 34 Davenport, la 33 4$ 40 Denter. Col 34 44 3d Do Citr. Kan 2 44 3$ Dubuque, la 2$ 44 3S Dulutr, Minn CO :$ $ JE1 1'aso. iex 44 f4 S Oalveston. T. W 63 61) arena junction, loi 30 44 . 4 b in - v. .... urana jiaven. -nit-a z 44 4q Havre. Mont 10 14 m Helena, Mont 16 33 u Huron. 3. D 34 Zi Jacksonville. Fla so j 2 KanMia City. Mo 44 54 43 Lander, Wyo 13 zi 33 Lime hoc, aril 24 ci Lnuiavill. Kt 2 6-) 54 Aiarqwue, aiieu 2j JtJ 35 Memphis, Tenn 44 64 S Modena, Utah 34 44 43 Montgomery. Ala 44 ts 12 Nashville. Tenn 34 t 3 jsiew m if ana. ia 45 73 1 Nw ' York. X. Y 24 33 39 Norfolk. Va... 33 43 35 North Platte. Neb it 43 3,, Oklahoma. O. T U 63 43 Omaha. Neb 34 40 3 rinin, iex 54 65 go Tarktroburr. W. Va 30 5 4 Philadelphia. Pa 24 33 33 JMttsburir. Fa 24 s 4 Pueblo. Col 34 4 40 Qu Arpell. Asln 2 2 jtapm city, u 34 31 . Pt. IOU.. M CS f.4 60 Ft. Paul, Minn . 30 3s 3 rvait -iir. nan. ...... 3 44 44 Fnta K. J. M 2 44 3 Fhrrerort, I -a. 44 m $s h'lUKflVIJ, III 34 f.0 M hprinrfl'M. Mi 44 62 It Valentine. Net 22 jh SO V.okburc, M 44 70 M Wa-hlniton. D. C 24 3) 30 Wichita. Kan 50 10 40 II0VEHENTS OF STEAMERS. NEW YORK. Jan. 2i. Arrived : Phoeni cian, from (ienoa; La Champagne, from Jiuvre; Minneapolis, from London. . UVERI'OOL, Jan. 25. Arrived: Ivernla. from New York; Teutonic, from Halifax. bailed: Armenia, for Boston. SOUTHAMPTON. Jan. 2J. Arrived: Fin land, from New York. GLASGOW, Jan. 24.-Bailed: Mongolian, ior m. jonns, is. u. HAMBURG. Jan. 2S.-Salled: Bulgaria,

The normal condition of the institution has always been found by those who visit it and no dodging or covering up of real conditions of the institution has ever been Indulged in. The management of that Institution has been open, frank and aboveboard and with the lights turned on so that the public could at all times know and see what was going on. BRANDED AS WHOLLY FALSE. 5. The statements of Mr. Goodwine that the action of the board In appointing a general superintendent "was an act of secrecy and concealment of purpose" comes from a man who has not only been secretly but willfully concealing his real purpose in introducing and urging the passage of this bill. We brand this statement as wholly false. Mr. Goodwine had no grounds on which to base his statement. The only purpose of the board In not consulting any one In reference to the aDDointment of a gen

eral superintendent was to free ourselves from outside influences, political and otherwise, and get the best equipped man possi ble to fill the place. ro discourtesy was intended to the Governor or anyone else. "We were performing our duty under the law as we saw It, and with but one object in view, and that was the best interests of the institution. We were following prece dents Innumerable for our action. Among them might be mentioned the fact that the Governor himself frequently manes an apnolntmpnt and announces it with the resig nation of the incumbent. There is nothing unusual in persons authorized to make ap pointments to fill vacancies not to announce a resignation until a person Is selected to fill the vacancy. To insist that there was discourtesy on the part of the rmarrt in thin art. either Intentional or un intentional, Is but another perversion of the facts and made for the evident purpose of prejudicing the minds of the members of the Legislature against mis institution. A BASE INSINUATION. Senator Goodwine says "that any investi gation that might be Instituted relative to this institution that a large part of the Information would have to be gathered from the employes and convicts in the institution. Any one can see very readily the difficulty that would attend investiga tion under such circumstances while tne present board is in control." This Is an other base insinuation with an assumption that thlnsrs are wrong at the institution. His position is to condemn the management of that institution first and Investigate it afterwards. It is the plea of the prosecutor askln? the court to cohvlct a man first with a promise that he will bring the evidence afterwards justifying the convic tion, we ins st that the authorized state ment of the Governor "that it will be my most earnest effort If the Goodwine bill is passed to have a thorough investigation made" Is unfa r. unlust ana in violation of everv nrineiDle of manhood in that it asks a vote of condemnation by members of the Legislature upon the members and the management of this institution, witn a promise that afterwards proor snail De made that they made no mistake. The vilest criminal i3 shown more consideration. Will a member of the Legislature of the great State of Indiana cast his vote in condemnation of the official acts of reputable citizens without first hearing the evidence and the officials themselves? We don't be lieve that such rank injustice will be done by a majority of the distinguished members I or tne House or mis legislature. In conclusion we deny that there is any thing wrong or has been wrong in the man agement of the Indiana Reformatory, we now hereby demand an open, vigorous, fair investigation of all the acts of the board or managers of that Institution. "Let no guil ty man escape. buMet justice De done ana the truth brought forth as to all those who are connected, directly or Indirectly, with the management of this Institution. MR. M'DOXALD'S S TAT E 31 E XT. lie Reviles to the CharRf Made by Senator Goodwine. John S. McDonald, a member of the board 0 managers of tho Indiana Reform atory, has furnished the following statement concerning some of the charges made by Senator Goodwine and which appeared In Sunday's Journal: "Tho manner In which supplies are pur chased for the institution is entirely prop er and strictly within the law. under the rules of - the board various commit tees are appointed . to give special atten tion to the matters Intrusted to them, Mr. John G. Williams and I constitute a committee on contracts. and supplies. I be ing the chairman of the committee. It Is my duty to go to the Reformatory when all bids are In, open them, see that they are all regular, and if. in my Judgment, the prices made by the lowest bidder are as low as the purchases can be made for on the basis of the market at the time the bids are submitted, then such bids are recommended to the board for acceptance, If, on the other hand. In my Judgment the bids submitted for supplies are too high and more than the supplies can be purchased for in. the open market such bids are re jected andl new bld are taken, and. in ev ery, case when tho bids have been rejected the supplies have been purchased by the board, on my recommendation, fbr less money. It will appear by the bids now on file In the Jieformatory office that in ev en case the State has been benefited by the first rejection, and that during the past twelve months between $2,000 and J3.OO0 has been saved by the manner in which the purchasing of supplies has been conducted. I feel confident that the records of the Institution will show that the supplies purchased for it were at prices as low as could possibly be obtained by any person or set of men. "What was done In settling with Con tractor McCormlck was certainly a good business proposition and Just what any fair or honest man should commend. We admitted we owed him $12,000, or thereabouts, and we paid him what we admit ted we owed him. and all that we owed him. We did not think it was businesslike, hon orable, or right to withhold the contrac tor s money that we thought was Justly due him simply because he claimed there were some extras due him. This balance was not paid over the protest of the attorney gen eral. That gentleman expressed no opinion about it during our meeting. I have been told by one of the members at that time that after we made what we considered a full settlement with Mr. McCormlck the attorney general said that we did the prop er thing. NOT AN APPLICANT. "I cannot refrain from stating that I was never an applicant for a place on the board. I did not want the place. But the Governor cent one of his most Intimate friends to me and Insisted on my acceptance of the place. After considering the matter I said that if I could be of any service to the people of the State and a benefit to the institution I would take the place. and after I was appointed I talked to the Governor and told him In plain words that I would at all times stand for what was right and straight and be opposed to ev erything that was wrong; that I would not be responsible In any way for the past. but. that everything dated frora the. day I accepted. The Governor said this was Just what he wanted and all that he could ex pect. I have done Just as I agreed and have discharged my whole duty as I un derstood it to the best of my ability. There is nothing within my knowledge callintr for any special investigation of the manage ment of tne iterormatory, but if the Gov ernor or tne Legislature thinks otherwise the board invites a thorough investigation made In the most effective way possible, and I. with every other .member of the board, stand ready to assist in making any Investigation thorough and effective." CXVIL-SEnVICC ASSOCIATION. Executive Committee Adopts Resolu tions Against Reformatory Dill. The executive committee of the Indiana Civil-service Reform Association has adopted the following resolutions: "The executive committee of the Indiana Civil-service Association, hereby expresses its regret mat it is proposed In the General Assembly of Indiana to legislate out of office the board of the Indiana Reformatory. The present board has the entire confidence of the people, and this committee believes that no better board can be selected to manage a public institution. So far there have been only intimations of Improprieties on the part of the board; no one Im willing to make charges In the manner provided by law. Hut the board invites the fullest investigation. Its books are Open to expert bookkeepers, its methods and aits may be searched to the bottom, and the Governor admits that he has the funds for an Investigation. The law as It stands affords the amplest remedy. The Oovernor after proof of negligence, or impropriety may remove the board, and upon him and him alone should rest the responsibility. "We dissent utterly from the notion that a board must consult with the Governor before taking Important action. The law requires the board to manage the institution and provides a punishment for mismanagement. The board may la ita i-

cretion consult with any one, but forced consultation with the Governor takes away Its freedom of Judgment and opens the way for him to build up a personal machine. "The board having, according to the high est authority, chosen the apparently best available man for superintendent, we con sider the objection that this man did not live in the State as childish and worthy of the period of bad management. If the board is removed the advocates of this bill promise an investigation which will convict the board of mismanagement. But it has never been the Anglo-Saxon way first to hang the accused and then to try him. "We recall the investigation of the Cen tral Hospital for the Insane by the General Assembly In 1S87, when representatives of this association were three weeks before committees of the Senate and House introducing the evidence which proved a reckless, corrupt and cruel management that made the namo of Indiana a by-word. This state of things was immediately preceded by a law legislating a former board out of office to make room for the crowd which brought disgrace upon the State. "we do not say that a similar result would necessarily follow the success of the present movement, but this movement is a return to a praetice which was the founda tion or former mismanagement and wnicn was abandoned. "Since its abandonment good manage ment has gone forward by leaps and bounds until Indiana has a proud place wherever men and women are gathered to consider charities and correction. The secret is the exclusion of politics and favoritism from our institutions; but this bill opens the door ior them to enter again, and the dominant mnuences which are urging the bill prove that such is the aim. "The men In the General Assembly from all parts of the State who are manfully fighting this bill, regardless of covert threats and of personal consequences, are entitled to and will receive the thanks and the appreciation of the people of Indiana. We call upon all men and women of the State who want to see good management go forward and not backward in our state institutions to give them support. CHARLES E. BROOKS. "JACOB D. FORREST. "HARRY J. MILLIGAN. "MEREDITH NICHOLSON. "LUCIUS B. SWIFT." A Blenaee to Other Institutions. To the Editor cf the Indianapolis Journal: The people here are deeply stirred over the attempt, as they view it, to under mine the present law governing the benevolent and penal Institutions of the State. The disguised attempt to' accomplish this under the plea of being unable to properly conduct, a thorough Investigation of Reformatory methods as practiced at Jeffersonvllle is, to say the least, equivocal. The charge that inefficiency, favoritism and corrupt methods have prevailed at Jeffersonville I3 on a par and In ljne with the statements ' that have been made regarding other institutions of the State. A recent appointee as trustee had been so marked and impressed with the idea that collusion and corruption prevailed in the management of the Institution to which he was appointed that, after careful investigation and Inquiry, he was amazed to find how grossly he had been imposed upon and misinformed. I cannot believe that four men bearing the good esteem and having records for- honor and probity such as attach to the trustees at Jeffersonville would prostitute themselves in the manner charged by the author of the "ripper" bill. The individuals composing the State Board of Charities are certainly worthy of being believed; they have had opportunity to carefully Investigate every detail of the management at Jeffersonville: they commend the action of . the board in selecting Warden Hert's successor,-and also commend the management of the Institution. The people of the State will nsver consent to put back the management of the benevolent and other institutions of the State to the spoilsmen and placeseekers who formerly controlled in the matter of administration. In the matter charged against the Reformatory trustees, who shall we believe, the members of the State Board of Charities, who are practically the Interested guardians of the State's Institutions, or the far-fetched and Ingenious charges of Senator Goodwine? On their very face the charges bear the imprint of absurdity and unfairness. The charge that the Jeffersonville board had been lacking in courtesy to the Governor may or may not be tne. Suppose It had failed in this respect; this should not be cause for such radical action as contemplated in the "rimer" bill. The action taken by the Senate is a menace to the management of every State institution, and is a stab at nonpartisan control. Having served the State as trustee for a number of years of one of its institutions I can testify from knowledge to the high character of the men who have rilled the office of trustee, and also to the care exercised by them in the discharge of their duties under the nonpartisan law. Notwithstanding Sen ator Goodwine's published statement I be lieve that the trustees of the Jefferson ville Reformatory are the eauals in char acter of the other gentlemen serving the State In like capacity. They f-ertalnly have a right to be considered honest men until proven to the contrary. The election of superintendent at the institution which I served, which occurred annually, was effected without evcri a thought of consulting either Governor Mathews or Governor Mount, and no discourtesy was for a moment thought of by either of the executives nor yet by the trus tees. The Governor appoints the trustees and it is the prerogative of the trustees to select the superintendent. I hope the bill may be killed In the lower house. E. G. HILL. Richmond, Ind., Jan. 23. Thinks the Bill Is Right. To the Editor of the Indianapolis Journal: It is within the knowledge of all that whenever there has been an investigation of the affairs of the Prison South, or the Reformatory, as it has been known lately, there has Invariably been a loud cry that the management and officials were whitewashed that Is, guilt may have been found, but was covered up, the influence of those under Investigation being such as to accomplish this result; and so It will be always hereafter. In many ways investigation may be made a farce when the investigation applies to persons at the time in control. Under a complete new management, as nonpartisan as the present one. It would be possible for the smallest fault to be discovered by a legislative committee, as the new management and officials would be more interested in having a clean Job on their hands and would not stand for covering up the faults of their predecessors. If there has been cruelty to prisoners. Imposition on the State and prisoners by the contractors in the prison factories getting labor free; If $3(0,000 has been paid for buildings that were contracted for at $200,000, the average reader of the daily papers in which such charges are frequently made by responsible men would certainly conclude that the accused parties should not have opportunity to hide their faults. It the old management go. A w one would not offer any obstruc-

AMONG THE LEGISLATORS.

tions to a sweeping Investigation, and the honor of the State demands that such an investigation should be made. W. G. NORRIS. North Vernon, Ind., Jan. 2C. A Menace to the Party. To the Editor of the Indianapolis Journal: The gallant fight which you are making against the Reformatory project stirs an answering chord in all hearts here. Many who were half inclined to look favorably on It at first now see In it not only cruel injustice to four good men, but a menace to the future of the party In our State. J. 13. LEWIS. Pendleton, Ind., Jan. 26. DOBLIN A PERJURER. ("CONCLUDED FROM FIRST PAGE.) this, and 1 said, 'Oh, that cannot be.' 'Well, he says, 'then I am politically dead.' Well,' I said, 'you carry me with you.' He said. 'You will be all right if you will Just appear before this committee. I will go and see the speaker and I will tlx it up. He went out of the room, came back, stated he had seen the speaker and said, 'It will be all right. All you have got to do Is to go before the committee and substantiate my story. "When I was called to Washington I got this telegram: " 'Take midnight train and come to me. Want to see you. Keep this confidential. " MONTE. Mr. Roberts Signed by whom? ' 'Monte.' " Mr. Tayler Who Is "Montcr Your associate? " 'Monte Is Congressman Leisler. I have had correspondence signed 'Monte.' " Continuing, he said: "While we were eating breakfast I was reading the article, familiarizing myself as to the statement, and when we got up stairs he said, 'Do as you want about lt. AT THE COMMITTEE ROOM. " 'Well I said, 'I cannot stand for anything like this. " 'Oh, he said, 'you have got to.' He says: 'I'll be back In a minute.' lie went out of tho room and when he came back he said, I will go down andlook after the committee. Just before that' he said, 'You need not have any fear. There Is nothing going to happen "you. You appear before this committee, and they are friends of mine, and all there will be to It, they will report to the whole committee, and there won't be anything further to it. The congressman left the room. I laid on the sofa. I took the paper up again and read it over. In about half an hour in came Sonn, who said, 'You come along with me. We will get Into the Capitol all right. Nobody will see you. You will be able to get up through a side elevator, which Is right close to the naval committee door, and you can get in, and I will see that nobody sees you " Continuing, Doblin said: "I went into the committee room. The gentlemen were standing about and Sonn said, 'This is Mr. Dnhlln.' " Th other eentlemen all shook hands with me and I sat down, and after a little while I was handed a cigar, wnicn 1 smoked. They made me feel agreeable. I trklr it fnr crantpd thflt It was all riffht. The first thing I knew one of the gentle- ... a . . a 1 men or tne committee, alter a conversation in which I explained my interest in politics in New York, asked how long I had been in politics. Then one of the gentlemen said: 'Waw't if Mr. Ouiirir who said to VOU that there was $3.000 in it for Lessler and 11 Oftt fnr vnii?' "I said at that time. 'No, sir Then all the gentlemen said, 'Oh, It's all right; you en fin.' and then there was a discussion as to how I stood. I refused to answer at that time. The gentlemen seemed to .agree that there was nothing to it. 1 maae my statempnt arrnrdlne to the wav I rCad in the pa per. I felt that I was in the hands of my friends and it was all right; that I would back up Lessler and it would ne a cmcn, nd that that was alt there would be to It; that tho rnmmittee would report: that t ccQicr Ti-miM Ha vindicated and that I would be vindicated, and It would be all right. After I got .out or tne committee room I went down to' the hotel ana asked TjQsipr 11 was not there. I tele phoned to the House, but could not get him and left the city. tninKing 11 was an ngut. rifthiin thrn tnld of a telegram he re ceived when he got home which read: "Statement all right. Have no fear. 1 "M. ' He then told of receiving a telegram from rhairnvan Foss. .of . the . naval committee. summoning him before tho committee, and said: "I replied to that, thinking the committee would , adjourn, that I could go on Mnndav lust the same. It being as I thought a friendly thing." , QUIGG OFFERED NO BRIBE. Continuing, Doblin said: "When I came It was a question of whether I was going to substantiate myself before a subcom mittee of friends and Lessler, or whether I was then and there going to make Lessler's statement appear untrue. I decided that I would Just make my same statement as to that which I spoke of before the subcommittee. I made it and I now retract every word in which I said Mr. Quigg tendered me any bribe in any way." He stated that after giving his first testimony he hal gone down to the sta tion with Mr. Lessler, who had addressed the following telegram to his wife: "Phil examined. Substantiates story in every way. He is all right. Will stay here for a time. MONTE. The witness said that simultaneously with the receipt of Chairman Foss s telegram he received one reading as follows: "Come on midnight without fail. "MONTE." Mr. Taylor, for the committee, quoted witness's testimony that Mr. Quigg had made an offer of money and asked if Mr. Quigg had done so. Witness replied In the negative. Doblin also said his state ment was false when he testified at the previous hearing that he had told Mr. Lessler that there was $5,000 in it If he could see his way clear to be friendly disposed to the submarine boat bill. "You did not say anything to Lessler about any money that would or might be paid to him if he would change his attitude on this bill?" "I sroke to him about the question at that time, but I did not say anything about money. "That Is. you spoke to him about the Holland torpedo-boat proposition, but you made no Improper proposal of any kind to him?" "I did not, sir." "You did not intimate that anybody cither through you or in any way offered money for his support of the bill or propo sition? ' MONEY NOT MENTIONED. "I have the conversation. I spoke to him about tho future and generally on the subject of submarine torpedo boats and said nothing about money at any time to the congressman. The conversation was as to LessJer's future. It said: 'Now, here. Monte, Mr. Quigg has sent for me and has talked with me about this thing. I don't know whether that is it exactly, but is as neur as I can get It. "So that the statement of Lessler that

you mentioned $3,000 or any other sum in connection with this is absolutely false." "Well, as to hla Impression I don't know, but as to his statement It is false." Mr. Tayler had the witness identify the story that he (Doblin) had read in a newspaper and which he said was the first intimation he had had of any proposition. Doblin then said Mr. Lessler who, he testified, said to him: "'I have got you into trouble. I said how is that? 'Well he said, 'there's a subcommittee meeting this morning and I will talk to you about It.' " "Did Lessler tell you anything about what you before testified to?" "He said 'read that over, it will be all right. and I read it over." "What else did he say?" "He said that the Holland torpedo submarine boat business is up."

"What else did he say?" "He did not say much: after that Sonn came in. They had some papers they were arranging." Then all you learned about the details of what Lessler claimed you learned from a newspaper? ' "At that time, yes." "When did you learn anything else?" FORCED TO HELP LESSLER. "When we went to breakfast I said: What did you say. Monte? He said: 'Can't you read that?' I looked it over and found he was talking about $5,000. He says I blurted It out. I won't be positive whether he said that at the table or in the room. He said: 'I blurted It out and you have got to help me out here " "Is that all that occurred?" "He said: 'I mentioned your name. You simply have got to go and make your state ment.' " In answer to some further pointed Ques tions by Representative Tayler witness said he did not want to Imply or to say that the subcommittee had indicated to him when he first appeared what to say or had suggested what he should state. Answering further questions by Mr. Tay ler, Doblin said he talked with Mr. Less ler on the train on the way home after giving his testimony and after getting home he talked with members of his family. 'After you saw Mr. ltogers he told you you had made yourself subject to criminal prosecution, dldn t he? ' asked Mr. Tayler. "Yes. sir." "And it was on his advice you came here to tell us this statement this morning? - 'I made the statement to him which he wrote out and 1 . signed. Mr. Rixey 1 want to . ask if whether In conversation with Lessler regarding sub marine boats you mentioned the subject of money. "Yes." The witness explained that they spoke of the price of the boats and , what ten. would cost. Answering Mr. Tayler, the witness said he had decided to come to Washington and make his statement to-day on the advice of his counsel. "Did not you know you were swearing falsely all along? asked Mr. Tayler. "Yes, sir." "Did not. you know it was legally punish' able to swear a lie?" "I did not know about the law." "Haven't you been about the courts of New York a great deal?" "Yes. sir." "Haven't you heard of a man being tried there for swearing falsely? "No, sir." "You did not regard it as morally repre hensible to give false testimony in a matter being investigated by Congress?" "At that time I did not give it a thought." "Do you think it was right to come here and swear that Mr. Quigg had offered you a bribe when he did not do it? "No, sir," he replied. The question being put to witness in an other form he said he was ready to believe what Mr. Lessler told him that there was nothing to it. LOST TO DECENCY. Mr. Butler You absolutely are lost to all sense of propriety or decency, are you? "I was told by Mr. Lessler that there was nothing to this and I thought it would be all right," answered the witness. "Did he tell you that you would commit perjury?" "The telegram said everything was all right." ' "Did you understand by that that it was all right to commit perjury?" "I did not understand that.". He was questioned with a view to devel oping what caused him to come to Wash ington and make this retraction. He told of consulting a lawyer and of his decision to make this statement on his lawyer's advice and of making an affidavit the affi davit Mr. Rogers sought to offer when the committee decided to have Doblin take the stand and personally make his state ment. Mr. Nicholl, Mr. Quigg's attorney, asked: 'Did you consider yourself under such deep obligation to jur. - juessier mat you were wining to do mat ior nim7 "Yes. sir." "And did you think you were rendering mm a userui and substantial service 7 "Yes. sir." "Did you go back to New York satisfied that you had rendered him substantial service? "He so told me; he said It was all right." Dclancey Nlcoll, attorney. for Mr. Quigg. when interrupted in the cross-examination of Doblin. said: I consider that the wick edest and foulest plot against the integrity or my client, a former member of the House, has been. revealed in this committee to-day and I want to prove it here, entail ing consequences which every one of us must see must happen and I want to probe it to tne bottom. Mr. Rogers then questioned his client. Doblin. and brought out a statement from him that no one had sent Doblin to him (Rogers). "liefore you had seen me. .he asked, "on the way home by whom were you accom panied?' "By Lessler." "Was anything . said about looking up some law?" "Yes. sir. Mr. Lessler said he would look up the law to-morrow. Replying to further questions by Mr. Rog ers, witness said that no one had explained to him that sworn testimony before a committee of Congress was the same as before a court of Justice. The committee held an executive session to consider what action was to be taken in view of the remarkable developments and later announced It would continue the investigation to-morrow, when another wit ness is expected to testiry. "FALSI:, MALICIOUS, LIBELOUS." 3IcCullaich,s Denunciation of Attempt to Connect III Name Tfith Bribery. NEW YORK, Jan. 26,-Superintendent of Elections McCullagh to-day gave out the following statement: "My Interview with Congressman Lessler In reference to the Holland torpedo boat took place In May, 1902. and was of a purely personal character. The alleged bribery Incident occurred In December, 1902, seven months after my interview with Mr. Lessir. ine evwer.ee tauen Dero re the congressional committee . clearly established

the fact that there was not the remotest

connection between my visit to Congress man Lessler and the alleged bribery incident of seven months later, and this fact was testified to by Philip Doblin. Congressman Lessler has never, even In the remotest degree, connected me or my visit to him with the bribery incident. The fact that Philip Doblin was formerly temporar ily employed by me as an election deputy in this office upon the recommendation of one of the political organizations entitled to representation at the polls does not and cannot connect this office with his alleged attempt at bribery. Any statement that has been or may hereafter be made which in any manner, hqwever remote, connects me with the alleged bribery Incident is false, malicious and libelous." FAIRBANKS IN THE CITY HE "WILL DELIVER HIS SPEECH OF ACCEPTAXCE AT NOOX TO-DAY. The Senator Is Hopeful of an Early Settlement of the Alaskan Boundary Dispute. Senator Charles W. Fairbanks arrived home from Washington yesterday and today at noon will deliver his speech of acceptance for the honor of re-election to the United States Senate before a joint meeting of both houses in the House of Representatives. Senator Fairbanks says he has been a busy man during the present session of Congress, but he Is enjoying per fect health. Senator Fairbanks Is hopeful for a speedy settlement of the Alaskan boundary question. He was chairman of the Joint high commission named during President McKinley's first term. The commission met with a Great Britain commission in Quebec and later In Washington, and agreed as to all the questions in controversy, except the boundary dispute. When the Joint com mission adjourned in Washington the lat ter part of February, 1899, the United States commissioners insisted that the Alaskan boundary question be decided by a Joint high commission of three representatives of the United States and Great Britain. Great Britain Insisted on a sev enth member to be named by a disinterested country. "It has been agreed that the matter of settlement of the boundary question shall be tne one proposed by the United States commission when we adjourned in 1899." said Senator Fairbanks.' "There will be an equal number from each country on the Joint high commission. This commission will consist of three representatives of the united states and three from Great Britain, and we will consider the terms of settle ment that arose at the former meetings. "There should be no long delay or difficulty in arranging the terms of settlement, and the matter should go to the Senate before long to be ratified. Of course, the terms of settlement are private at this time, and will not be made public until the Senate authorizes it." Senator Fairbanks expressed no doubt of the Senate ratifying the treaty. The sen ator will return to Washington on Thurs day. . SOCIAL TURNERS WON. Easily- Defeated M. T. II. S. Five by 21 to 13 Score. The Social Turners' basketball team de feated the M. T. II. St five at the German House gymnasium last night by a score of 21 to 13. Printrler, Leehr and Jansen did the best work for the Social Turners, while Ayres and Rohnstadt scored the most points ior ivi. T. it. o. Tne line-up and summary follow: Social Turners. Position. ' M. T. IL S. Prtntzler Forward Avres Leehr ...Forward Wheeler Jansen Center........ Bohnstadt Hoppessberger Guard.... Spohr Schräder Guard.... Diddle, Gaston Goals from Field: Social Turners Printzier, 2; Leehr, 2: Jansen. 3. M. T. II. S. Ayres, 2; Bohnstadt, 2; Spohr, 1. GENERAL SPORTING NEWS. Offlflal flnnntinrcmpnf Vine hpn m An that F. H. Yost will roach th TTnlvpruitv of Michigan football team again next fall. Austin Rice, of Connecticut, received th decision over Edide Toy, of San Francisco, at the St Louis Olympic Athletic Club Monuay nigm in tne seventeentn round. Toy alleged a foul and quit. John Kling denies that has been signed to play the coming season with Tacoma in the Pacific Northern Bali League. Kling stated positively that he will play with the Chi cago National League club again next sea son. A fifteen-round boxing contest between Eddie Connolly, of St. John. N. B.. and Tom Woodley. of London, for a purse of $1,000, was brought off at London on Mon day night at the National Sporting Club. Connolly was the victor on points. Monday's Race Winners At New Or leans: Farmer Jim, 9 to 2: Benmora, 9 to 2: Potheen. 2 to 5: Censor, 9 to 5; Brushby, 9 to 1; Little Scout, 7 to 10. At Oakland, Cal.: Warte Nicht, 2 to 1; Knob Hampton, 6 to 5; Alado, 12 to 1; Sunello, S to 5: Doreen. 6 to 1; Ballroom Belle, 3 to 1. .Tim Prr tho Fnirllnh rhamnlnn Aafeated Harvev Parker, of Worcester, in a hflndlrnn tvrstHncr match flt thp Olvmnln Athletic Club at Buffalo Monday night. i'arr undertook to tnrow i'arker three times within an hour and did so in the following times: 2:40, 3:48. 1:58. The Amateur Athletic Union's sanction of the proposed Invasion of England by a number of American college athletes, under the direction of George W. Orton, of the University of Pennsylvania, will not be granted because the affair Is fostered by an individual and not by a recognized club or organization. Harry Forbes, bantam-weight champion of the world, and Sandy Tokell, champion of one in the same class, were matched Monday to meet before the est End Athletic Club, of St. Louis, Feb. 26, in a twen ty-round fight for the championship of the world. The weight agreed upon was 115 pounds. George Slier was agreed upon as referee. M. Bakhmetleff, Russian diplomatic agent at Sofia. Bulgaria, has been hurriedly sum moned to St. Petersburg to consult with Foreign Minister Lamsdorff on the Mace donian situation. M. Bakhmetleff expresses the gravest concern at the outlook in Macedonia, which he declares to be infinitely more threatening than at any time during the last five years, m. lianKmetlen: b wife. who is an American, tne aaugnter or General Beale. is busy distributing the Czar's gifts to the Macedonian fugitives. At the Grand Junction, Tenn., field trials of the United States Association on Monday two heats in the champion stake were run. The interest centered in the running of the first brace and for the heat the Lorillard dog had a shade the best of It. The braces were as follows: First. Mo hawk, owned by Avant and Duryea. with Geneva, owned by Lorillard. Second. Lady's Count with Count Oakley. Five of the thirteen dogs entered were withdrawn as follows: Charity, Cowley's Rodfield Pride, Jack. Pink's Boy and Harwick s Nellie. Count Oakley was cut on a wire fence and was withdrawn at the end of the second hour. Lady's Count Rave down in speed and was withdrawn. The heats were three hours in length. The trials were on the preserves of Mr. Hobart Ames. The attendance was large and Included many ladies. Lottery Tickets Confiscated. HONOLULU. Jan. 26.-By Pacific cable ! Customs omc?rs have made a seizure of lottery tickets that were shipped to Honolulu on the teamship Alameda. The officers suspected Joseph Rothenberg, the ships barber, and a search of his effects revealed 6,000 Louisiana -lottery tickets The tickets were confiscated and RothenDerg arrestea. Game Conflacnted. CLEVELAND, Jan. 26.-Fifteen hundred nieces of game, consisting of min i.i. snipe, geese, woodcock, grouse and' prairie cnicKens, were seized at a provision hou?e to-day by game wardens because it is in violation of the law to sell the game. The penalty Is 5 for each bird shown. The confiscated game will be fent to chnrit.nhu institutions. TO CURB A COLD If OXD DAY Take Laxativs Ercmo-Qui.nine Tablets. This on every box. wc

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That's Our Specialty SUITS We have cutters and makers especially drilled in this wear. Silk-lined at and upward. KahnTailoringCo. Makers cT the Kind or Clothes Gentlemen Wear and Ladies Admire. PEACE REIGNS SUPREME PIIESIDEXT Pl'LLIAM SCOFFS AT IDEA THAT WAR ISXT EXDED. American Promise Suitable ' Grounds In Xew York AocIation May Not Place Clnb In Chicago. NEW YORK, Jan. 26. President Harry Pulliam, of the National League, arrived to-day. He said: Th future looks hrieht for baseball. Everything has been settled amicably and mir mrpflnr In Hinrinnati has DUt an end to any internal discontent which may have existed among the club owners of the Na tional League. Everything connected witn the Joint conference or tne American ana TCfltinnal Ianie neace committees was ful ly explained to the satisfaction of all our members and the peace agreement was ratified." Vhrn ho wn asked about rumOTS tO the effect that the war between the major leagues was not enaeo Air. l-uuiam paueu for a moment and then said: "I fail to see any blood spots on the moon. I am satisfied that the war is over and that peace reigns supreme." President Jonnson, 01 tne American Tjgirii( la oTnrtvl tn nrrivi In this ritT rm Thnr;i1.iv hnt Charles W. Sommers. vice president of the organization, and John J. Kilfoyle, Of the Cleveland' American League club, are nere ana nave Den nere fnr some davs. Neither of them would talk rn tha anh1rt nf ihf loratlnn of their new grounds further than to say that they would zuinil tneir promises ana mat me uau grounds will be fully equipped and ready for the opening of the coming season. ' DIG LEAGUE OI1JECTS. - Little Chance of Association Placing Club In Chicago. CHICAGO, Jan. 2ß. It is now practically certain that the American Association will give up Its Idea of transferring the St. Paul club to Chicago. President HIckey returned from St. Paul to-day, and waa noncommittal regarding his plans in tin matter, saying that the question would be left to the league magnates, who will meet here in their annual session within two Despite his reluctance to talk, however. It Is known from authoritative sources that the American and the National leagues will oppose the placing of a third club in Chicago, and with this the case it is almost certain that the majority of the American Association owners will not favor making the move. MTJNCIE TEA1I WON: Fast Play Caused Elirood to Go Dorr a In Defeat. Clubs. Played. Won. Lost. Pet. Richmond 38 22 1 .579 Indianapolis 38 21 17 .K3 Elwood 41 21 20 .512 Muncle 38 13 13 .50 Anderson 33 17 21 .417 Racine 41 17 24 .415 Special to the Indianapolis Journal. MUNCIE.. Ifid., Jan. 26. The Muncie Polo team dedicated its new brown suits tonight by winning from Elwood by a score of 6 to 3. The game was clean and fast. In the first period neither team disturbed the netting of the cages, but the Muncle players put their scoring apparatus to work In the second and third periods. Spencer scored first for Elwood and Roberts put in the last two goals of the game. The team work of Muncle would have resulted in a bigger score had it r.ot been for the defensive work of Fitzgerald and Lyons. Itarlne Shut Oat. Special to the Indianapolis Journal. ANDERSON. Ind., Jan. 26. Anderson shut out Racine in a pretty game to-night by a score of 6 to 0. The work of Ed Mooney and Murphy was the feature, the lattering securing four goals In the last period. The visitors' work at defense was good at timis, but lacked in aggressiveness. President Parsons, of the Eastern league, was an Interested spectator. The crowd was fully l.bOO. MAHER KNOCKED OUT. reter Put to Sleep by Joe ChoynskI In the Second Itonnd. PHILADELPHIA, Jan. 26. Peter Mahcr was knocked out by Joe Choynskl In the second round of what was scheduled to be a1 six round bout at the Washington Sporting Club. Maher was apparently afraid of his opponent and after to minutes of sparring in the second round went to tha floor with a left hand swing on the jaw, and was counted out. In the first round Choynskl used a left hand Jab to good ef feet and by fast footwork kept away from Maher's swings. He btgan playing for wary. -Finding that Maher was becoming fearful Choynskl resorted to Jabs in the face with the result that Maher became confused and was unable to return - the fusillade. In the second round It was plain sailing for Choynki. Maher was low anJ seemed unable to avoid his opponent! blows. Finally Choynskl landed fairly on Maher's Jaw with soporific effect. Eesema, So Cure, No Pay. Druggists refund money If PAZO OIIO MUNT fails to cure Ringworm. Tetter. OlJ Ulcers and Sores. Pimple and lilarkheal cs tu face, and all skin diseases. U ctcl