Indianapolis Journal, Indianapolis, Marion County, 9 July 1894 — Page 4

THE INDIANAPOLIS JOURNAL, MONDAY, JULY 9, 1891.

THE DAILY JOURNAL MONDAY, JULY 9, 1604.

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Can b found at the followiujr plar: 1'A HIS American i:cUang in 1'arU, 30 Boulevard te l" wine. NEW yoiCK-Gily Rome and Windsor Hotel. "PHILADELPHIA A, IVKeinMe, 3735 Lancaster aTrnue. CHICAGQ-Palmtr Houe. Auditorium IIoteL CINCINNATI J. It Ha wiey & Co.. 134 Vino street. LOUISVILI.K-C. T. Deerlng. uorthweH corner of Third ami Jefferson street. ST. LOUIS Union News Company, Uiiiou Depot. WASHINGTON. 1. C.TXigz House and Ebbitt House. The Debs-Sovereign letter to the President is an appeal to the mobs to go on. It would be amazing indeed If It should turn out that Debs's mind is unbalanced. Again we remark, no law-abiding citizen of Indiana will hereafter question the value cf a good State militia. The New York Sun hails the reformation vS Senator Palmer from socialism In 1802 to a belief In the enforcement of the laws. If the two men who are paid large salaries out of the earnings of workingmen lire not "leeching" a living from labor, who are? The President did answer Governor Altceld's protest, but he will hardly dignify Sovereign and Debs's Impudent communication by a reply. The railroad men in the East seem not Inclined to Join the Debs organization, which now seems to have been created to light "Waterloos." The company of Illinois militia thatjhad an encounter with the mob showed coolness and bravery. For troops who had'., never been In action before they did remarkably well Miscreants who open switches for trains loaded with human beings to run into in the night time are simply outlaws. It vould not be done in time of war between civilized nations. As a class the workingmen of Indianapolis conservative, law-abiding and orderly. Their course during the present troubles will be found to have contributed in no mail degree to the city's good name. Now that Debs's lieutenant, Fhelan, in Cincinnati, has denounced Chief Arthur, Wilkinson and Sargent as "scabs," the public will understand that these men and their organizations are boycotted by the dictator. If other veterans saw the situation in the same light as Gen. Lew Wallace, there would be meetings in every township In Indiana to raise companies, and fifty thousand men would be offered to the Governor in a week. The President's order to military commanders to open up all transcontinental railroad lines from the Mississippi to the Paclfio will Impose upon them a difficult duty, but It will be faithfully and thoroughly performed. Debs's latest discovery Is that the A. P. , 'K. is fomented and kept alive by railroad managers in order to keep railroad employe divided. Debs seems to be subject to extraordinary mental hallucinations. Is be right in his mind? United States Marshal Hawkins has been discharging his duties with zeal and intelligence; and when he said that the man who assaulted one of his deputies shall not escape punishment, all men who believe la Uncle Sam applauded. Most of the Indiana troops who were orame from the southern part of the State. Those from the northern part will now have an opportunity to ehow if they are made cf equally as good stuff. "When this trouble Is over. It is probable that a tribunal will be created to arbitrate differences between employer and employe on interstate railroads, but first the federal authority and the laws for the protection cf life and property must be vindicated. Those people who have been led to believe that there are no tin plate factories in this country must be surprised to read that the employers and emploj-es have agreed upon a scale for the coming year, and that forty plants are devoted to that industry. The men who bnrned the Pullman cars, derailed a train, captured the telegraph cfllce an.l beat railroad vorklnmen nearly to death, Saturday night at Hammond, are miscreants, as Debs says, but they would not have committed the crimes they did If he had not "nerved thlr arms" with his incendiary appeals. During the year 1S52, 1S3.233 persons were employed by 421 leading manufacturing firms, earning f"""0. 120 as wag.-s. During Mr. Clevrland's first year YZtVZ persons were employed, who received $I2.7li.WJ as waxes that Is, the Cleveland policy turned over twenty thousand people to idleness and reduced the aggregate wages JliSort.W. Hammond, which Jmt now Is the danger point In Indiana, is l:i the extreme northwestern corner of the State, about twenty miles southeast from Chicago, and lies partly in this State and partly in Illinois. It Is really a suburb of Chicago as much as South Chicago and Whiting, of which It is a continuation. It is the seat of aome factories and packing houses, an i-ysfj

a turbulent element among Its own population it is easily accessible to the riotous element from Chicago. It is possible that as t!ie military force in Chicago is inerased and the authorities tighten their grip on the situation, as they are evidently doing, the rioters will scatter out into suburban towns where they can terrorize local authorities and continue their Interruption of trains and destruction of railroad property. As Hammond Is the converging ioint of several Hne3 it Is an attractive point for the riot;rs, and should therefore be well guarded. It is evident that the Governor did not send troops there any too soon.

THH STIUKi: SITUATION. Whatever apparent change there has been during the past twenty-four hours In the general situation has been lor the better. The demonstrations of the comparatively small bodies of rioters In Chicago were feeble compared with the operations of Friday and Saturday. This is encouraging, as many feared that the rioters would appear in greater force on Sunday because no many men would be idle and curious spectators. In that direction Hammond has been the arena of the greatest violence the past twenty-four hours. A company of 'regular, guarding a train through the city, fired on the mob with some effect Only in Terre Haute and a few smaller towns have the strikers apparently held their own. In tit. Louis the reported return to work of the most of the Big Four men and other peaceful indications show that the opjvsitlon is losing ground. The latest reiorts indicate tnat the Debspeople will not be able to break into the old railroad brotherhoods in the East. The action of the large and influential section of the engineers' brotherhood In this city, yesterday, approving the action of members who stood by their contracts and refusing to Join the Debs organization, can be regarded as having an important bearing upon the situation. It seems quite evident that the labor unions which Tnake up the federation of which Mr. Gompers Is the head will not strike outside of Chicago, if they do there. The Knights of I-ibor, if they have not already been ordered out. probably will be, but the demoralized condition of the organization because of internal dissensions may prevent general obedience to an order of that kind. The Debsites in this city make taud predictions of what will be done today and to-morrow, but there seems no more foundation for such claims than there was the middle of last week. President Cleveland has Issued a proclamation of warning to Chicago rioters, ordering them to disperse by noon to-day. This would not have been done unless the authorities felt confident of their ability to enforce order, and can be accepted as an assurance that they feel that the force at that point is sufficient for the purpose. In conclusion, all things considered, the prospects of the Debs strike declined yesterday, apparently having reached Its climax on Friday night, when the country was amazed at the reports of conflagration and pillage. t COXCEUMXG STATE LIXES. Governor Matthews, whose prompt action In regard to the outbreak at Hammond Is highly commendable. Is said to have expressed regret that the fact of the State line passing through the town would prevent Indiana troops from passing over Into Illinois if their services should be needed on that side' of the line. There Is something too much of tills State line business. Governor Altgeld has shown that he is an extreme stickler for State rights, anJ it is possible he might protest If Indiana troops should follow rioters across the line, or even If a stray bullet from an Indiana gun should bury Itself in the sacred soil of Illinois. But the Governor of Indiana should not attach too much importance to the State rights whims of the Governor of Illinois. Interstate comity is all very well In its place, but when it Is Invoked to prevent the suppression of mobs It Is decidedly out of place. The troops of one State should not wantonly or unnecessarily trespass upon the territory of another, but they should not hesitate a moment to cross a State line In the pursuit of rioters or the suppression of mob violence. "Just now the law-abiding portion of the American people are longing to see . a vigorous use of force on the part of the authorities without regard to legal technicalities or quibbles, and we are not sur but the most popular thing Gov. Matthews could do would be to order the Indiana troops to pursue and arrest rioters without regard to State llaes. If a man caught with a torch In his hand setting fire to freight cars in one end of the town of Hammond escapes Into the other end across the Illinois line it would be asking a little too much to await the slow process of an interstate proceeding for his shooting or arrest What the peopl want now 13 an enforcement of law irrespective of State lines. Till: l)Ot HI.K-TOXr.lKD DHIIS. Friday night, when thousands of halfcrazed miscreants were lighting a portion of Chicago with burning cars and roundhouses and murderously assailing workingmen attempting to do their duty. Debs was momentarily appalled by the insurrection which he had Invoked, and. in the hope of clearing himself of the dreadful responsibility thereof, issued nn order to his comrades In which he said: I deem it my duty to caution you against being a party to any violation of law, municipal. State or national, during the existing difficulties. A man who commitviolence In any form, whether a memler of our order or not. should be promptly arrested and punished, and we wr.uid be the first to apprehend the miscreant :inl bring him to Justice. We mui-t triumph as law-abiding citizens or not at all. We have It uion reliabk authority tha thugs and toughs have been employed t create trouble and prejudice the public against our cau?e. The scoundrels should In every case, be made to pay the full penalty of the law. Let it be borne In mind that If the railroad companies can cecure men to handle their trains they have that rlsrht. our men have the riht to tult, but thdr richt ends thre. Other men have the right to take their places, whatever the opinion of the propriety of so doing may be. Fonr of his friends have asserted that Debs hns always advised his followers that when they quit work they should not Interfere with others who desired to take their places. To prove that such a claim is groundless. It Is only necessary to .pide

from one of Debs's early proclamations, as follows: Keep us constantly Informed as to the situation in and about your locality, and be sure at all times to remember, notwithstanding the expected discouraging reports of the enemy, whether it be the open foe or the knife of those whose interest in labor Is confined to leeching an unearned living from Its veins. Finally, brothers, remember, and let that remembrance nerve your arm, that we are not on a mere skirmish line for a temporary advantage, but in fighting this battle its lines reach deeper and its conclusions must be on the one hand our eternal good. or. If by treachery and apathy defeated, labor's downfall, from which it will take years of suffering and endeavor t recover; that thl3 struggle is to be somebody's Waterloo. The foregoing and many other like appeals to prejudice and passion makes Eugene V. Debs morally responsible for every life which may be lost in this conflict and every dollar's worth of property which will be destroyed. Hut for him and his incendiary appeals Chicago and Hammond and all other cities In which riot and pillage have occurred would be as quiet as four weeks ago. If his followers were to quit and offer no resistance to others, what need to say that the "thought of leeching unearned living from the veins of labor should nerve your arms?" It does not require nerve to quit work. It was this appeal to passion and to prejudice, repeated to those he has since stigmatized as "toughs and thugs" when he has discovered his resionsibility, which has filled the railroad and stock yards of Chicago with fiends. They were there In force because Debs had declared that it was not a "skirmish line," but a battle of Waterloo dimensions. They were words like this which have "nerved the arms" and fired the hearts of the scum of the slums to apply the torch of the Incendiary and strike with the bludgeon of the assassin. And for this saturnalia of crime and murder Eugene V. Debs Is responsible. "WHOLESALE PROMOTERS OF IDLE-

The letter which two of the TresiJent's earnest supporters in 1S92, Debs and Sovereign, have addressed him is a piece of stupid bombast as an utterance and a piece of unparalleled impudence as an act. It Is undoubtedly the work of Sovereign,, who is not now and has not been for years a worklngman or a wage-earner in any sense of the words. As an ultra free-trader, he calls the President's attention to the fact that thousands of men are unemployed, and declares that In many cases labor is starving. The former is true, but the latter is false. There is much destitution in manufacturing towns, and particularly in the large cities into which many thousands of people who can do only the roughest kind of labor have crowded. The corporations which these men assail are not, however, responsible for these conditions, but mainly the men who, like Debs and Sovereign, urged and persuaded men in the large cities to vote for "the change" which has closed, factories and paralyzed business. Now both of them are undoubtedly In favor of tariff legislation which will put the lowwage labor of Europe on the same plane with that of this country. It is the threat and fear of this which has closed factories and turned thousands of men and women to idleness. What have Debs and Sovereign done to give employment to the Idle and bread to the. starving? Neither of them has or can give employment to a single Idle person. Vh?n Debs began his operations at Pullman about 3,800 men were earning $7,000 a day. He influenced these men to leave their employment and wages more than twice as much as the average the same workmen receive in Europe, to the level of whom Sovereign, at least, is determined, as a free-trader, to reduce American workingmen. These 3,8'W Debs has turned to idleness. The employes of the railroads, when the strike took place, had no griev ance with their employers. Mr. Debs had undertaken to make the Pullman company pay more wages and had not succeeded. He undertook to ally the railroads renting Pullman cars to his cause, and failed. Then he ordered out,, or Influenced his subordinates to order out. say 20,000 mem bers of the Hallway Union, of which he Is president. This action has paralyzed freight transportation and gsneral industry and business, so that probably 100,000 men are to-day earning no wages because of the action of Mr. Debs. Subsequently. Sovereign, whose heart so bleeds for the un employed, announced that he will order the ir.0.000 members of his order to quit work, so that between them not less than 300,00) men have ceased to work or have lost their employments during the past two weeks. Meantime, no grasping corpora tion, except where Debs's and Sovereign's influence has interrupted their business, has discharged or reduced the wages of a man. Denouncing imaginary corporations, these two rash men have deprived more men of labor in one week than a score of the largest corporations have done by dis charge since the free-trade paralysis of Cleveland. Debs and Sovereign set in. SELF-PHOVED LIAHS. In their letter to the President, Debs and Sovereign declare that the laws and the officers of the law always take side with corporations against labor. This is a very stale falsehood. So far from that the legislation of all the Northern States has set strongly in favor of labor during the past thirty years. Capital which furnishes material for buildings or railroads may fail to get Its pay, but in all Northern States labor has a first lien on whatever it has helped to construct. In States like Massachusetts, New York and Pennsylvania, where the associations of men to secure capital to carry on enterprises which employ labor are strongest, there are homestead laws which exempt the household goods and a limited amount in real estate and the implements of employ ment from attachment for debt and from taxation. Most of these States have laws requiring the frequent payment of labor in cash by corporations which are under the control of the State. These are but samples of the general drift of State legislation by both jartles. In regard to wages, carefully collected statistics show that while the earnings of capital general ly employed in manufacturing, operating railroads, etc., receives less and less as profits and the prices of the necessaries of life have fallen, the wages of labor.

and particularly of skilled labor, steadily,

if slowly, advanced until "the change" was decide! on In the election of 1S92. These are facts which can be sustained by quotations from the statute books of even Northern State and by the most carefully collected statistics, notably those collected by Colonel Wright, chief of the national Eureau of Labor, the most intelligent and one of the most candid statisticians In this country or Europe. Debs and Sovereign lie against all facta and experience when they say that corporations, which comes to mean employers generally, are grinding the life out of the employes. The very fact that not a man in the Debs A. H. U. had a grievance against an employing railroad man when the strikes were ordered against the Pullman cars proves by their own organization that railroad corporations are not crushing their employes beneath the iron heel of despotism. Even the conduct of Debs's own men prior to the strike convicts him of falsehood. judicial oitnnns siioild iib oiu:yi:i). A special telegram in the Sunday Jour nal describing the situation at Hammond said: "President Shields, of the local American Railway Union, says If troops are brought it will be a case of starving them out. Any person who gives or sells them anything to eat will be spotted and dealt with accordingly." From this it would appear that Mr. Shields has been contributing by his. presence and advice, if not by acts, to the excitement which culminated in Hammond yesterday In serious riots. This is the Shields who. along with several others, was brought before United States Commissioner Van Huren on Saturday, June 30, after having been served with the restraining order of the United States Court. The commis sioner postponed the hearing until to-day and released the men on bonds in the sum of $1,000 each, taking Shields as surety for all. It is learned that for some reason the hearing of the cases Is still further postponed, but It is to be hoped not indefinitely. While Shields was here he called on the Governor for the purpose of ascertaining whether the militia were liUwdy to be ordered to Hammond, and he pledged himself that there should be no more interfering with trains at Hammond. The time has come when the United States Court should do something to make its orders effective or. at least, to show that they are not- meaningless. During the last ten days many Injunctions have been issued by the courts In different States and dozens of . dcruity; -marshals have been err.Dioyed in serving them, but as yet--no person has been arrested for vlolatlnff them, unless these Hammond men can be said to be under arrest. If It is true, as the dispatches indicate, that Shields, after service upon him of the order of the court and while under bonds to appear before the United States commissioner, has been active In fomenting r disturbance at Hammod he ought -to inr. punished. Either the orders of the court are, nugatory or they carry a penalty for ! their violation which should be enforced.' The Journal would not prejudge- the cases . of Shields and others who are to appear before the com missioner, but In his cae at least there is reason to believe that he has delib erately defied the authority of the court. If this Is so he should be made to suffer the penalty, at v leasts to an extent that will teach him that an order of the United States Court means something. There is great need of this lesson at present. It seems that Illinois has a law making cities and counties liable for property destroyed by a mob or riot of more than twelve persons. Tht law was passed in 1S87 and closely resembles the .Pennsylvania law under which Allegheny county had to pay $2,700,000 for property destroyed by a mob during the Pittsburg riots of 1877. The Illinois law requires notice of claims to be filed within thirty days after the destruction of the property, and the railroads which have suffered losses have already begun to file the required notice. Republicans are saying that it was fortunate that there was a Democratic President, a Democratic Governor of Illinois and a Democratic Mayor In Chicago when the insurrection came, as many Democratic demagogues would have been insurrectionists to be against Republican officials. It was so in 1SG1; but if a Republican President had been elected in 1S32 the condition would not have been favorable for the Debs attempt to be the dictator of labor. in nui.i:s iv Tin: aiu. At It Again. Tommy Say. paw. Mr. Figg Now, what do you want? Tommy What 1s the difference between the seahorse and th? navy rlug? Tlu Seere Mistake. "That fortune teller must have thought I was an heiress." "Why, dear?" "She tiaid I was to marry a poet and live happily ever afterward." Ait All-Arouml nipn t Iilxer. "Going to wear the white ribbon?" "Sure. And the red and blue with it." "Eh?" "I'm in with all of them. Going to wear the white for the strikers, the red for the rioters, the blue for the general managers and the whole combination for the country at large." Xot Indestructible, "Your Highnessc." said the menial, "the man with a bullet-proof shirt is in waiting in the ante-room." "Show him in." Meekly the inventor entered. "Has this garment been subjected to every possible test?" inquired the potentate. "It has, please your Majesty." "Er has it been to the steam laundry?" The Inventor fell to the floor in a swoon. "Foiled again," said he as he fell. INDIANA VIEWS OF THE STRIKE. No Incipient rebellion should be allowed to gain any foothold In thl3 count ry. New Albany Ledger. How long must the American people sub mit to this criminal sort of foolishness? MIshawaka Enterprise. We don't believe. this country Is yet pre pared to accept F.ugene Debs as dictator without protest Parke County Journal. The processes" of the courts ought to be respected and every lawbreaker ought to be promptly arrested and punished. Anderson Herald. That State sovereignty is best which by the enforcement of law preserves the peace and protects the right of citizens. Seymour Republican. President Cleveland is right In calling out the soldiers to protect the United

States mall service and to enforce the orders of the federal courts. Richmond In

dependent. Put down lawlessness first and settle the strike afterward. VIncennes Commercial. Such men as Altceld are a disgrace to this country. Evansville Journal. Let nobody doubt the outcome in this country of a struggle between law and lawlessness. The law may be slow, but it is mighty sure. Shelbyville Republican. The peaceful boycott proclaimed by Debs has given way to the torch and pistol, to the wholesale destruction of property and attempted Intimidation of authority. Rich mond Telegram. The question is a very simple one. Shall citizens of the United States of America be permitted to prosecute their legitimate and lawful business without interference? Washington Gazette. The strike of the A. R. U. has become an open warfare against the people, the property and the business of the United States. It Is a senseless, lawless rebellion against the peace and prosperity of the country. Richmond Palladium. Dictator Debs is now warring upon the United States, on the railroads, on labor and laborers, on the poor in general and on pretty mucn every uouy uui ucuifct Pullman. New Albany Tribune. Governor Altgeld is as much of a rebel as any of the Governors of the late Con federate States, and should be dealt with as one who aids and abets resistance to na tional authority. Columbus Republican. When one class of men endanger the safe ty of the country In the pursuit of their personal rights, the first duty is to save the country, in which the interests of all classes are bound up. Rushville Republican. Mr. Debs is the personification of an archy. As such his suppression is a neces sity if law is to rule, and liberty is to be secure. Do the people feel as they should the crravitv of the obllratlon resting upon them and the courts? Elkhart Review. STIUIvi; OBSERVATIONS. Mr. Cleveland will have all the decent men of the United States, without regard to party, on his side in whatever measures he adopts to discharge his duty under the Constitution and laws of the Nation. New York Evening Post. In his efforts to maintain the dignity and honor of the federal authority President Cleveland will have the unanimous support Of every patriotic citizen. When anarchy rears its frowning front, there are no party lines In this home of the free. Philadelphia Inquirer. Have no trade unions in the country the American spirit to condemn these outrages committed in their name? Are they all still dazed with the notion that the highest interest of labor organization is bound up with this reckless defiance of every rule of law and general right? New York Sun. It is the duty of every loyal citizen of Chicago, of Illinois, of the United States, to uphold the arm of authority in sup pressing this lawless outbreak, and Debs should be made to suffer the penalty of inciting violence and Insurrection against the authority of the government. New York Times. To talk of the sympathy of the people with an Insurrection which threatens . to paralyze and destroy their industrial commerce Is to impeach their common sense and patriotism. Public order and the rights of free Intercourse must be preserved at any cost and against all assailants. Philadelphia Record. Civil law has ceased to have a meaning to them and martial law rigidly, fearlessly and Impartially enforced is the imperative demand of the situation. It must be swiftly determined whether we are to live under mob rule or under a government of the people such as the fathers founded. Detroit Free Press. It Is not a time to split hairs over the theories of State rights. It is, as the President very pertinently said in his second dispatch -last night, a time rather for all the forces of organized society to unite in repressing disorder, quelling lawlessness and making short work With altemnt. .ed mob rule. New York World. If the United States government fails in this emergency It will cease to be a government in everything but name, and the country will be. delivered over to a despotism more absolute than any in Europe, since it will be a desnotism and passion. We need nurse no delusions in mis connection. Washington Post. The advice of the President that all authorities first co-operate in restoring order, and discuss the limits of their au thority afterwards, is excellent, but it is probably thrown away upon Governor Altgeld. It looks now as if he is determined to ao an m nis power to delay the restoration of order. Louisville Courier-Journal. These derallers of trains and delayers of the mall should not be scattered by a display of force, but collected together In a prison by the use of force. If they resist the troops then the line so long dangerously approached of levying war on the United States Is passed bevond nil cavil. For all practical purposes It has peen passea aireaay. I'niiadelphia Press. It is not a labor strike, but an open, in solent, defiant rebellion against law and order that the country is compelled to meet. There is not an attribute of justice In the claim of the men w' - declare that they are striking and riotinfe in the Interest of labor. Their evident aim is to subvert law and order, and give anarchy the mastery in our great Nation. Philadelphia limes. The people of this country are not ready to surrender to violence or to throw up their hands to Debs and his Railway Union when they call a halt to everything until they are placated and their demands are complied wjth. This country Is going to be worth living in for some time ver. It wouldn't be If Debs and his Railway Union were to have their way in brow beating the government and bringine the whole country to its knees. New York xriDune. The power to avert the danger lies with the worklngman. It is the sober heads among them who should save us from the hot heads the Arthurs whoso voice should be weightier than the Debses. The men of labor the men who run our locomotives and build our houses and with theicstrong hands and plain sense and homelv affec tions make the strength of this Nation' are not to be swept into a mad attack on social omer Dy a tew enthusiasts. Springfleld Republican. ABOUT PEOPLE AND THINGS. Here Is a good story which Is told of Sir Arthur Sullivan. It was at dinner, and a young lady inquired of Sir Arthur whether Bach was composing anything at present. "No," he replied, "at present he is decomposing. Samuel B. Arnold, who was implicated in the project to abduct President Lincoln in lStt. and was sentenced to Dry Tortugas for life, being afterward pardoned hiPresident Johnson Is now keeping a meatstall in a liaitimore market The house In which Martin Luther died at Eisleben. Germany, bore no mark to indicate this fact until a few weeks ago. The famous house, however, has been repaired ami restored in a worthy fashion. It contains many relics of the great ieformer. Ex-Empress Carlotta Is reported by the latest Brussels papers as being in a worse condition than ever. It is known that she has been Insane since the tragical death of her husband; but it Is said now that the moments of lucidity which she was having from time to time have become more and more rare. A women's suffrage echo is found in the present agitation fo the admittance of women to the galleries of the House of Commons. Mr. Herbert Gladstone's recent speech on the prejudice that has barred them from attending has filled the papers with columns of comment, the general trend of which shows that tha English woman is aroused to a lively fight for the privilege. Mrs. M. French-Sheldon sailed for London last Saturday. She is bent on estab lishing colonies in East Africa, In Gusha tand Sumall lands, about six hundred miles north of Zanzibar. This country Is located i eltrer side ths Juba river, along whose banks live aooui w.iw industrious macKS. The natives are all runaway slaves who have received from the British taat Africa Company their manumission papers. Shopper have become used to buying ice-cream freezers, vealskln cloaks, carpels and diamond rings under one roof, but live

lambs are a commodity that heretofore has not been offered at bargain sales as they were at a Baltimore department shop the other day. Those who iwught the lambs had to take th?m away themselves, and this the eagc women managed o do by ; grasping the little creatures in both arms. ' Mrs. Mackay entertained Princess Louis?, j

Marchiones of Lome, at Carleton House j on Saturday night Mrs. Mackay has been entertaining royalty from the Prince of Wales down to Victoria's poor German relatives for years: in fact ever since she took Carleton House. Her entertainments have been the vogue with the smart set there for a long time, and now Americans consider themselves fortunate when they are invited to them. The Question Is a man the owner of his . j own teeth? has come before a German i ccurt at Gera. A man who had been suffer ing for some time from the toothache made up his mind to haw1 the tooth taken out. The stump proved a difficult one to draw, and when it was out it was oi sum curious shape that the dentist declared he would keen it as a curiosity. His patient however, thought he would like to k?ep it himself, and claimed it: but me aenusi, on the ground that a tooth, when drawn with the free consent or a patient, is ownrlfs nronertv as soon as it leaves the Jaw. refused to give It up. The patient at once entered an action against the den tist. had a beau. And the mistress commanded her "Geau." Rut the girl merely laughed As if shp were daughed. And pleasantly answered: "Neau." Detroit .Tribune. Still John P. Altgeld, he Thinks he's a bigger man than Grover C. Pittsburg Dispatch. DEPEYV OX THE STBIKE A talk: with tiii: prksident of THE .EW YORK CEXTRAL LIXES. Debit Seek to Force All Itollwny Men Into Ills Orftnnlzatlon Uimutrou and Ruinous Struggle. New York Tribune. ' Speaking yesterday of the general situa tion and of Altgeld's utterances. Chauncey M. Depew said, when his views were asked on the subject: "The position taken by Governor : Altgeld has temporarily very much encouraged the strikers. The Information which I had previously received from the territory affected by the strike was that the troubles were rapidly settling themselves. The renewal of the diffi culty on the lines which had opened and the extension of it to new places came Immediately after the Governor of Illinois had practically ordered the United States out of that State. These troubles have now extended to Cleveland and Detroit, and to tha lake ports as far northward as Duluth, completely paralyzing the lake traffic." Mr. Depew was asked If he believed that the strike was possessed of a basis of much strength. He replied: "Well, notwithstanding this sudden accession of apparent strength by reason of the action of Governor Altgeld, I think from the advices I have received this afternoon (and, of course, they are entirely from my own line) that the movement is decreasing in strength and violence. The men themselves, so far as I talk with them and I have seen a great number of them are satisfied, and are unwilling to be drawn into any controversies which will endanger their places, or, by stopping the operations of the road, suspend their pay. They know perfectly well that CO per cent, of the railway men in the country have been out of employment for more than three months, and that these men are hungering for work. There . are hundreds of thousands of competent, capable, sober. Intelligent men who have been out of work for many months In these dreadful times who would risk their lives to get something to do. There are ten men standing behind every man who has a job. anxious for that man's place, and all they ask is to be protected in the work they may be called upon to do. This situation is thoioughly understood by the railway men who are now In tha service. Unless they have left the organizations to which they heretofore belonged, and which have been of great benefit to them like, for instance, the Brotherhood of locomotive Engineers, the Locomotive Firemen and the other orders of railway m?n in order to Join this new association created by Mr. Debs, these men will not get work. I have been here," continued Mr. Depew, "In my office ever since the trouble began. Every day the door has been wide open ready to receive any employe who had any complaint or grievance which could be presented. The telegraph wires run into this building; these could bring any complaint: and, further than that, It requires only 2 cents In the shape of a postage stamp to bring it by mail. But It is a significant fact that no complaint of any kind whatever has been received by me from the men in our service or brought to my attention during this period. "Under the circumstances," sald Mr. Depew, "I cannot see how It is possible for the service of this company to be affected. So far as I am personally concerned, I must say I am considerably run down, and very much require a little rest. I hope I may, after all. be able to get away at the time appointed without being compelled to ask leave of absence from Mr. Debs." FORMER STRIKES. " At this point Mr. Depew drifted into reflections upon strikes In the past. He said: "I have studied, with great interest, all the great railway strikes which have occurred in the last twenty-five years. . Every one of these strikes has had its own origin, and all of? them before this seemed to present a real or fancied grievance on the part of the employes against the railway companies. In this case, however, all the railways in a territory of 2.000 square miles have been tied up. A million of people have been thrown out of employment in the railway and other business incidental to transportation ' crippled by the course adopted by the leaders in this movement. Property worth millions of dollars has perished, such as fruits and farm products, the loss of which will come upon the farmers or producers; hundreds of thousands of passengers have suffered the greatest inconvenience and some have actually died from exposure, simply5 because of a dispute between the Pullman Manufacturing Company at Pullman. 111., and its employes over the construction of 3-ju freight cars. I suppose." added Mr. Depew, "that of the 2O.0U.Ui00 eople aiTected not one-tenth ever heard of Pullman, 111., or the Pullman Manufacturing Company, or knew that the Pullman company was ttoth a sleeping-car company and a manufacturing company. "How do you account," asked the reporter, "for the origin and continuance of the strikes, with such damaging results, and controlled by so inconsequential a leader as Mr. Debs?" "The cause of so widespread and disastrous a revolution," said Mr. Depew, "must be looked for beyond its apparently trivial excuses. As It appears to me. the idea of Mr. Debs and his associates is that to induce the different railway organizations to disband and Join his. he must demonstrate the omnipotent power which he possesses; and the strike is mainly for that purpose, because he believes that if he succeeds, then all the railway men of the country will come under his command. Now. this is the third effort in my experience to bring every description of labor and employment unions In the United States into one organization. This was the dream of Mr. Powderly, who, by the way. Is an able man. and very capable. The central Idea of every such effort, however, has been to compel a settlement at one place by means of universal paralysis. For instance. If an organization has a complaint and a dispute arises, say in the foundries of Peeksklll, between the employers and the molders, and. owing to their Inability to settle, the molders go out on a strike, the theory is that the matter should be taken up bv this tremendous organization. All the railroads in the United States must stop running, all the mills shall shut down, all the furnaces shall go out of blast, all the street and electric cars shall stop, all the electric light and gas companies shall cease to supply the public, all the mines In the country that provide coal and fuel hhall be shut up. all the butchers hall stop serving meat, all the bakers shall discontinue baking bread: and this great scheme shall be carried through In order to bring the Peeksklll foundrymen to terms. The trouble Is that the mammoth size and weight and terrific power of the trip-hammer, as in this case, crushes all the larger5 objects or mangles them, while the Peeksklll fly slips out. stands on its hind legs and laughs." GOOD ORGANIZATIONS. "You have. In the past, manifested your friendship In favor of the brotherhoods conspicuously at times?" suggested the reporter. "They are valuable, are they not.

in many of their labors In behalf of thr'r members, and do good service under certain l:mtsv "The railway organizations on the various roads," replied Mr. Depew, "have always attended to their own business n,l managed it remarkably well. Tne best labjr organization in the world." he ailed, ''is the Brotherhood of Locomotive Ergineers. By attending strictly to its business. Its charities and the rights of its members, it has secured more constant employment and better remuneration than any other. At the same time it has conferred ujon its members, through its charities and its benevolent funds, lncalculat;e benefits. The same is true, though in a lesser degree, of the othfr railway brotherhoods. This present movement of the American Railway Union, which Is only six months old, seeKs to have all these organizations, which

have been of long standing, and which have demonstrated their ability time and again to take care of themselves, practically disband and become merged Into this general pool." Turning to the reporter, Mr. Depew asked: "Has a track man the education and experience to enable him to pass upon the merits of a case presented by a locomotive engineer, or fireman, or switchman, or conductor? Or can a switchman pass upon the merits of a case connected with other departmf nts, including, fay, the shops and the mecnanlcs employed la them? Or can a brakeman pass upon questions arising in the hrirches of the service in which he has never been himself engaged? 1 have found through many years' experience," said Mr. Depew, "that a satisfactory settlement with a committee of employes depends very mucL. upon the Intelligence of the committee and upon Its knowledge of the matter which it Is sought to present. I have had brakemen, who happened to be chairman of committees, when a general association like that which is now assuming such power has been In existence, attempt to inform me as to the alleged grievances of yard switchmen, and even of those of locomotive engineers. Now I could get along with a chairman without any trouble on matters affecting brakemen, but outside of that he would conceal his Ignorance by , making excessive demands or by getting mad. But when a committee of locomotive engineers have come to me. they knew exactly what they wanted; they could clearly and distinctly tell their grievances, if they had any, and coild listen to and understand the railway sioc of the question, and could Judge of its merits. But this was not true in the case of a brakeman who might assume to represent the locomotive engineers; for whenever I would attempt to reason with him he would prove that he knew nothing about what I was talking of." ONE EXPERIENCE RECALLED. As an'illustration of inconsistency of men who tie themselves up under the powers of general unions, Mr. Depew said: "About a week before I went to Europe the summer that the last strike ocurred on the New York Central, a committee called upon me representing every branch of the service which had joined the Knights of Labor, with the idea of consolidating all the railway brotherhoods with that organization. 1 could do nothing with the committee. s such, because as a body they didn't understand the question presented. But when they dissolved, at my request, and each memler spoke for the department to which he belonged and could ?peak with knowledge and authority. I could take the question up with him. and the result was that every grievance presented was nettled In less than an hour. They then demanded, as a body, that 1 should recognize them as authorized to speak for the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers, they saying very frankly that if I would recognize them In that way it would destroy the brotherhood, because that organization would run into the new one for protection, and that this would guarantee that the Central road would be free from trouble in the future, and they added that the locomotive engineers would be compelled to settle a matter, which they claimed the brotherhood was about to present, at some 23 per cent, to 60 per cent, less than they alleged the brotherhood would In Its own capacity as an organization demand. I refused to treat with them at all on that question, or to treat with anybody but a committee f the Brotherhood of locomotive Engineers. The committee then said that their organization, which professed to embrace every other branch of the service, would order a strike the next day. I caused to be posted on every roundhouse on the road that night the concession which this committee taid the locomotive engineers would demand, although I1 had never heard of it from the brotherhood direct. The result was that the committee called the next morning and laughingly said that their efforts to consolidate everything on the road In one grand common pool had been defeated; that their grievances were settled and that the company would have no trouble in the future. That was the last effort made on our line to break up the existing organizations and combine them Into one. A UNIQUE STRIKE. "Another incident," said Mr. Depew, "occurred in that game period, and I will tell it to you, because it illustrates the difficulties in the way cf the officers of combined trades In speaking for any one of them outside of his own immediate organization. There were sixteen trackmen on the Hudson River division who refused to go to work. On investigation I found that the local order to which they belonged, and which Included every branch of labor In the village, had for its master a Khoemaker. The shoemaker had gotten Into a quarrel with the conductor of a local train, and In order to get even with that conductor he ordered these men to go on a strike. One of the superior officers of the general organization called ujon me in about a week to settle what he called a lalor difficulty on that line. These sixteen men had no grievance and presented none, either before or after their strike. ThU oKict, who was an intelligent man, acknowledged to me that he had never been on a railroad In any department or service; that he was wholly unfamiliar with the character of the work performed or the compensation given by or to any of the employes; that his life business had been running elevatorw tn buildings. I asked him how, under such circumstances, he cou!d assume to adjust the trouble, he haviog threatened to tie up the whole road unless I did adjust It. lie said that he acted on the general principle that every employe was getting too little: that no matter what the pay was it should be advanced. He was too intelligent a man. however, when he became thoroughly possessed of the facts to pursue the matter any further. So I took the sixteen fools, who had been in the meantime digging foundations for houses at from i0 t- 7cents ier day, back In the service of the company. It was a curious commentary upon that matter, which sometimes has a larger application, that at the period when these sixteen trackmen ceased to work their services were not requlrI and were not likely to be for a month; but we kept them on the rolls because of the length of time they had been In the service. ' WHAT THE STRIKE MEANS. In closing Mr. Depew said: "Curiously enough, the general public do not seem to comprehend what a suspension of railway senice means. This is not really an actual condition of difference between capital and labor. This strike is an enormous handicap to the laborer himself In lin battle for existence. For instance, you have seen in a morning newspaper a headline announcing that all suburban trains in Chicago have been laid on. In a city like Chicago or New York or PhilaJelihia the vast majority of clerks, both men atil women; of artisans and employes of every kind, live out of the city. They fall t reach their various places of employment; the great store or factory or mill must go on. and when they finally arrive many of them discover their places have been filled. Thus thousands upon thousands of worthy people are unexpectedly thrown out of employment and their families reduced to the greatest distress. The smaller industries in the villages along the line, whose capital is not large enough to enable the managers to lay in large supplies of etock. fall to receive their usual requirements of raw material for a week or more, and they are obliged to shut down and the employes are thrown out of work. "The railway men. who had goo I permanent places and were in a s-rvl-where promotion is more certain on merit and fidelity and good character than In any other calling In the world, constantly find themselves, throuch ole!Jence tn striking masters, with no work and r Income. The store-keepers, over a territory of thousands of sgtnre miles, niot of them having their little all invested m their business, are confronted by the question of trusting mn who have no eir.ploymtnt and are receiving no wages and are without prospect of Immediate future Incomes, and if the men do not pay the deilers are forced Into bankruptcy. Anl If they cease to sell gol. not having the money to meet the bills they have rcurred w ith the wholesalers. - they mut close their establishment. The farmer has his live stock and perishable fruit nt produce of various kinds on train whl.'h are side-tracked. The vegetables and fruit rot In the trains, the live stock has to be fed at his expense, and he loses the profits of a season's work. This suspension on a large oa!e of rallroal traftr causes more damage, grenter loss of property and more suffering than the tnmnlni; of a hostile arrr through th m terri tory during times of wa. These sr 1 truth which It is not lrinrtrr!ate fo ' men to consider In times !ike the."